like

automatically

by definition

its insane

you don't know my definition because you didn't even read

sure. because the economy/technology isn't as advanced at that period in time

```@Xinyue you don't just compare the positions themselves, you see where they're coming from..
a leftist and a right winger can come to the same conclusion from completely different angle and with your analysis you'll be sitting confused who's the Lefty who's the Righty
you don't just look at the position itself, you look at where they're coming from and the development of that thought.```

your argument is bad and you should feel bad @AdorableStormtrooper

lol

Hitler comes from a certain school of thought and you look at it's development and that's how you determining if it's left or right, you don't just look at the positions themselves, because left and right can hold the same positions coming from a completely different place.

dude you continue to fail to realise that your postmodernist hypersubjectivist position doesn't translate into a coherent fucking thought process 😄

oh my god

@Xinyue nice memes bro 👍

if you do *not* define left and right in social ownership vs. private ownership terms, you will in the end lose any meaning the terms had. even in the original french revolution sense, it was always about the expansion of commons vs. the aristocracy trying to hold back any sweeping expansion of the commons/public domain, like even before socialism it had this *general meaning*

and socialism developed directly from the left-wing position

> person who says you can track the development of left an right thought and determine where a person is coming from from a left or right view.. *Post Modernist*

> Person who thinks social positions left and right take are subjective and completely arbitrary, *not Post Modernist*

nice memes bro @Xinyue

🤔

that...literally doesn't make any sense

it doesn't connect to the discussion

your trolling

nicely done

👒

Literally not. You implied that left and right are *not* first and foremost economic categories of ownership and productive relations. I argued they are.

What is my argument?

Dude you don't make a coherent one

Ok, what is my incoherent argument?

This is the most autistic conversation ever

All I got from you was some vague talk about social issues

which doesn't connect to anything

anyway

I'm done

jfc

I can't do this 😄

lmao

you're great at selling ideology my dude

you know how to keep discussion within that frame

Dude I can't talk a fucking parrot into communism, same applies to you 😄

🤔

and not entertain anything that disrupts that

that's something to learn from

literally am on a server filled with ideological opponents and study the literature of fascists and capitalists 🤔 hmmmmm

you can almost get away with not even addressing the opposition 👍

I'm not trying to suck his dick, but what did he not address?

could be perhaps you who is in the impenetrable echo chamber bucko 😉

he didn't address ANYTHING

literally nothing

uh-huh

go on

I've copy pasted my argument several times which runs completely contrary to his own frame, and he can just not even talk about that...

It would seem to me he is arguing that defining left and right based on social issues doesn't make sense to him because what is and isn't conservative (aka right) changes over time

and your position is that the positions themselves are not relative

so therefore it does make sense

I think he is addressing what you said, he is just doing it by restating his argument

yes, my position is that the changes aren't random, they happen within a context.. the particular schools of thought on the left and right develop over time and the position one is holding today can be tracked back to that school.
so even if a left winger and right winger are holding the same position, they can be coming from completely different angles, which can be leftist or right wing even tho the end position is the same

just repeating the claim without addressing the retort isn't arguing at all tho

i get trolled easily 😩

So, Apparently, Snoop Dog has converted to Islam and has created his own manhaj called "The Manhaj Of The West Coast" and just made his first fatwa saying weed is halal because it's not in the Quran.

Our women gonna be replaced by men

sexy

Voila, I now have ranks

Civ Nat 🤢

I mean it's the ideal form of nationalism for a multicultural society imo 🤷

Multicultural society is an oxymoron

Just look at the state of the west now

Civic Nationalists are saints.

I disagree, perhaps it has to do with the groups you're importing. I live in 🇹🇹 an extremely diverse semi-shithole

Good day you chumps, Merry Christimas, Ho Ho Ho

Christmas not coming to normal countries until the 7th of January.

But Merry early Christmas nonetheless.

I think we should prepare some presents in the form of sanctions to our eastern brothers!!

No, silly, **you** are the present!

Well, your country's land is, at least.

also we should deport all the trannies, muslims and homo to them!

as it was always done!

who are the eastern brothers?

The Shias or the Sunnis? or **The khawarij**

I think that homosexuals are able to function normally in society, I have some reservations with regard to people identifying as trans, I don't think I fully understand how that phenomenon works, but 🤷

I ment Ryssia of course... and I am sure they will function there quite well!

@Aki Russia will get raped by the mussies, lmao.

But slavs aren't human anyways so 😄

Slavs are the master race. Only there are higher and lesser slavs.

I have no quarrels with homos but keep in mind all this LGBTQ bs only popped put of because of movements funded by (((them))) As much as possible I would like to go back to the old days of Christian America where people were abstinent and did not preach degeneracy and confusion

Ryssians are the lesser ones ofc!

Who is them 👀 @Orwell

J*ws

And Pollacks aren't slavs at all.

Jews are the best @Orwell

Nah we need to kick them out for the 110th time

ok negro.

Mmkay faget

Oh, I have no quarrels with that group of people. In my country a very different group of people are the '1%'

"Wow guys, these fellas are smarter than me, I'm jealous" - some gay (((Orwell)))

Yeah yeah im jealous yada yada

Jews are saints, you are a stain.

Its not like they have banks that continue to hold our countries hostage or nuthin

Hitler was a jew.

There's no such thing as a non jew

Saving that

There were jews in nazis

Jews are the best.

Hitlers driver was a jew

They are cool and smart.

10/10

Jews are just masked Ryssians.

Nah joos are poopoo

You're either a jew or a crypto jew, no exception

So according to AKKKi, Russians are saints.

Ok Pole, very cool!

Well russia got rid of the rothschilds

If the west hates them then theyre probably the good guys

Hope Russia gets rid of all sexists and racists

Putin is a feminist.

I dunno, if you ask me a lot of Westerners blame Jews for the problems in their societies because they are too high-handed and proud to take their own failures at face value and move forward.

I feel the same way about people of colour who blame slavery and historic disadvantage for their own personal failures

- waits for hate train -

Putin ia a feminist in the sense that he loves feminine b*bs

Putin is a Ryssian as well... so much misery in one human being.

@Dylan Its no coincidence that central banks are owned by Jews like Rothschilds that continue to be responsible for most of our countries problems

There was one president that tried to bypass the FED

He got shot in the head

Yes because a few Jews control your banks all are suddenly evil

FED stands for FEDeral.

How logical

It was a Rabbi that shot him too

Dont underestimate the power of banks

Also

Guys, all Jews work in banks.

It's true.

Jews are highly represented in academia and hollywood

Read it on Louder With Crowder.

Hollwood especially considering thats most of our media

Jews are smart and good actors.

And because of that, I hate them.

Which is heavily biased towards liberal causes

grrrr

The same ones that continue to advocate for lgbtq bla bla and open borders and trump hating

I hate Hollywood, but I still don't think you can blame Judaism for the things high-handed lefties who have huge trust funds and stuff promulgate in Hollywood

there are zero jews who dislike Hollywood

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_businesspeople

You might think its just another religion

I knew a jew whos son became a banker when he was 4 years old.

But make no mistake being a jew is a race

They grow up so fast 😭

Theyve been kicked out of 109 nations specifically because they have their ownnsense of nationalism to their own people

They never assimilate into their host country cultures as a whole

If it's a Race, then how come people can convert to Judaism if they're sincere?

Guys, the ideology of medieval country bumpkins is a perfect basis for your views on a race.

Trust me.

Those converts are not considered real jews by orthodox i believe

Medieval

1885

Ok

Oh, do you really want to talk about the real reasons behind pogroms?

Who told you that? lol @Orwell

Because that's not gonna go in your favour.

Well wed have to go through the entite Talmud to figure out why Jews view themselves as the chosen people and gentiles as future slaves

Yes

Keep in mind that out of all the bad things that happened in the world

Why is it that were not allowed to talk about this one event

The Holocaust

I mean the expulsion order of 1885 was more to do with farming but ok

Some countries literally jail you for denying the holocaust

Because it's the most recent genocide to date?

No

There are comedies on the Holocaust.. what are you talking about?

@Otto Guys, the ideology of country bumpkins is a perfect basis for your views on a race.*

If the killing of 6 million jews really did happen

Country Bumpkins

Then why are we paying reparations to Palestine

Wow guys Holocaust isn't real but I wish it happened XDDDD

Chancellor of Germany

Ok

I mean, Germans are brain-dead morons.

Each and every one of them.

Why cant we conduct our own independent research into the Holocaust like any other event on Earth

No exception.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_deportations

Even mentioning its not real gets you a warning from the ADL which is a jewish run organization

what will they do?

Must mean that it's fake then.

Isn't it 3 years in prison in Austria for denial?

WW2 didn't happen.

In the US specifically theyll brand you an antisemite and make you lose your job and any future employ

Prove me wrong.

In Germany youll get jailed

If Employers don't want to employ Holocaust Deniers, that's their business right?

Good, the more Germans are in jail, the better.

There are like 100 million african slaves that died yet we can deny thosr

Govt Law preventing discussion is unproductive though

Yet the death of "6 million jews" seems to be an almost taboo subject

I posted a video in the news and video section

WW2 did happen. you can prove it by al the unexploded bombs and Czech Hedgehogs

About where the 6 million figure actually comes from

6 milion is not exclusive to WW2

It's because people like Jews more than Nogs

Capitalism kills 45000000 million people each day and yet we're talking about communist atrocities?

That's dumb.

Are we defending Capitalism?

Honestly they're already starting to claim the number was higher

6 bazillion

I bet

I saw a thing that said Hundreds of millions

@Kazimir Malevich capitalism = / = hunger

@Otto I mean, a German would be stupid enough to defend capitalism.

yeah recent research suggests it's around 11 million isn't it?

Jews were gassed when in reality they just took showers along with other POWs to remove disease infested lice from their heads

I'm not German though

it's not a few hundred people who died at Auschwitz guys

I'm a heroin addict

Zyclon B was simply a food additive.

The Jews were just overfed.

History is written by the winners

The government is lying to us.

@Orwell and Jews died from taking the shower? Cool Story Bro

History is filled with atrocities but 99% of them are quickly forgotten

Nobody will ever ask victory if he told the truth

They died from the allies cutting off their supply routes and probably from labor

We don't even care about atrocities committed against our own ancestors at this point

Jews survived the Holocaust so they still exist to talk about it.

We just moved on

Yes

American soldiers executed 900000000000 Jews.
Nazis never killed anyone.

100,000 survivors

Simple, but nobody wants to talk about it.

4,000,000 people talking about surviving holocaust

Like the ones who claim they saw fountains of blood?

You dont think thats weird?

Or the one who claims he saw his mother and sister being led through a tunnel to Gas Chamber number 5?

"Fourth Generation Holocaust survivor"

Even though There was no number 5

Gasp you mean people lie

I wonder if jews would make good soaps

There are lies of all kinds about Holocaust like any other significant event

Yes

Thats why we need to learn the truth

But they wont let us

you see a funny cloud in the sky and there are 10 people with 10 stories about it

doesn't mean facts don't exist

research tells us what happened at these Death Camps

When looking for facts

Keep in mind

A good website, some may enjoy it.
http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2017/05/rebutting-twitter-denial-most-popular.html

The news outlets you get this from are funded

You have to look at who these funders are to get an idea of what the agenda is

they are funded?