especially skin

Far off to what?

What are you arguing

far off from the Mediterranean type european

We're just an eastern Mediterranean population

Another Copt, this guy was a Youtuber

Little to no Arab or SSA admixture

they're white then, maybe?
that guy looks completely white to me

indistinguishable from "white" in the sense of "from europe"

Do you know the actor Rami Malek?

He's Coptic too

yes, I know of him

This is how the ancients looked pretty much, they made a great choice in casting him to play a Pharoah

certainly doesn't look european-white, but he isn't far off
if you were to define these groups with more modern sectionings

i feel like those ancient egyptians, babylonians, etc. would straddle the place between "european" and "arab"

if you just look at how the public would see one

appearance mostly

How an ancient Egyptian would look is how a Copt would look, it's that simple

How an Assyrian would look is how modern Assyrians look like

so on and so on

yes, which is what i think applies to them also

When Islam came, most of these people were not allowed to mix with the Muslim Arab settlers

i feel like assyrians and babylonians are almost lost though

the pure type

due to them being Christians

many converted i imagine

happened in europe, caucasus, etc.

why not there?

and they're what makes up the Muslim Egyptians

Copts who converted,

and are now HEAVILY

mixed

yes, i know very well

modern muslim egyptians aren't white

Far from it

what i'm thinking is that the pure assyrian/babylonian/etc. probably is near impossible to find now
becuase of how many mixed and how they just spread

especially considering the age of these civilizations and types

Bablyonians are extinct probably

Assyrians still exist, but there's like 2-3 million of them

9 Million Copts

so certainly small populations, but still exist

yes, they're still around

this argument traveled quite far from the origin

not really an argument anymore lol

Here's a Copt, for the most part actually

you can tell the difference

between an Egyptian Arab and a Copt

In upper Egypt, it tends to get harder obviously

my point is we aren't white though:

but we're another eastern Mediterranean peoples who descend from the Ancients, we're our own thing.

i can be inclined to agree

I find it funny how there were A LOT

of Copts

in the whole white nationalist thing

movement

I think the term white though is stupid, and ethnicties are more important

Yugoslavia and A-H were all white, but they erupted

Ethnicity is the most important aspect.

personally how i would define things is:
seen by people as" White" in the sense of like a swede, italian, greek, anglo, frenchman
seen by people as "Arab" in the sense of muslim egyptians, gulf arabs, semites, etc.
the Eastern Mediterranean people you talk of are firmly in the middle, some crossing fully into "White"

i agree with you though

me trying to explain my reasoning is fucked

because the "White" and "Arab" thing is just too simple

and ignores a lot of little transition areas like these East Meds

it quantifies the obvious whites

and the obvious arabics or whatever the fuck

but it causes a lot of confusion for copts and similar groups

Something that I find very fascinating is that when a Copt mixes with a European

the baby almost always looks European

I have a few people at my church with either white mothers, or fathers

and they look European

you'd never be able to tell

a lot of people like that in my family actually, both my cousins are blonde and blue eyed

I was born with blonde hair, but it changed to brown

I have light green eyes

interesting, and I can see why that happens

dad is blue eyed, both grandmothers are blonde

so on and so on

the small amount of "Transition" genetics so to say get filtered out or effectively lost in translation

so it creates appearance indistinguishable from just European

one thing further I do want to add though

copts, assyrians, select levantines (not semites as jews want you to think they are, moreso the type Assad is and shit) are honorary whites in my eyes, if they aren't fully "white" just without the "european" of it

kind of like pure north indians

not european at all, but still actually white

as their genetics still come from the caucasus

and just went through a lot of filtering and unique ingroup features that only appeared within them

to create their appearance

Yeah, I get what you mean

A lot of Copts and Assyrians self identify as white either way:

There tends to be a general dislike towards blacks and Muslims and such in the Coptic community, they tend to be much more right wing.

Anti-Zionist and shit as well, our last Pope was against Isreal.

He even forbid Copts to visit Jerusalem while he was the Pope.

Our new Pope is fine, but he isn't as harsh on Isreal, earlier this year the Kikes beat a Coptic monk for peacefully protesting.

Ethiopians literally stole a monastary owned by us since the 8th century

ah good
it's what I meant all along, I just had expressed it in a simple manner because most people don't question the idea, due to not being one of those pecuiliar borderline groups
you being one of those people (which i find fascinating) obviously means you'd know a lot more about this, and thus question my simplification
which leads to clarification as it happened here

also interesting about the pope and populace. shame you all are getting fucked by semite-black ethiopians and kikes

at the least the "good spirit" is still strongly preserved with you all

despite all the shit that area went through

Lol, my church got over ran with Ethiopians.