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2018-08-07 04:09:27 UTC

And assertive

2018-08-07 04:09:59 UTC

He has depression but he still studied hard, goes to school full time

2018-08-07 04:10:10 UTC

Studies*

2018-08-07 04:10:23 UTC

Takes care of his responsibilities which I really admire

2018-08-07 04:11:49 UTC

That is very admirable.

2018-08-07 04:12:33 UTC

But we haven’t been talking bc he feels I insulted his religion when I didn’t mean to. (The time that I did I was emotional so I probably didn’t word myself correctly) so he hasn’t forgiven me for that. He was actually still willing to talk to me though, just as long as we don’t speak of religion again. But I don’t want to have a relationship like that so I just said I won’t talk to him for however long it takes him

2018-08-07 04:13:19 UTC

He said he doesn’t know how long it’d take him. But even so was still respectful of me

2018-08-07 04:16:19 UTC

Try to be patient if you can.

2018-08-07 04:16:28 UTC

He sounds very willful.

2018-08-07 04:21:04 UTC

Lol he is

2018-08-07 04:21:20 UTC

But yes I actually have a lot of patience

2018-08-07 04:21:31 UTC

So it’s alright

2018-08-07 04:21:45 UTC

New biblical question! It’s a good one

2018-08-07 04:22:01 UTC

Pride is the same nature of anger

2018-08-07 04:22:40 UTC

I love Jesse bc all my life I’ve struggled with my anger, just a couple months ago when I discovered him & his churches I really felt my anger decrease

2018-08-07 04:23:04 UTC

My anger has protected me a lot of my life

2018-08-07 04:23:08 UTC

It’s hard to shed

2018-08-07 04:23:19 UTC

But then in relationships, it’s damaging

2018-08-07 04:23:50 UTC

I always had this issue when I’m angry I esp felt I couldn’t hold back my words. It’s finally starting to change.

2018-08-07 04:24:45 UTC

Also from Jesse I know that I’ve basically took on my mothers anger and identity. She’s bipolar and as a child was very scary. (Luckily I’m not bipolar tho lol)

2018-08-07 04:25:11 UTC

If you want to help him, the best thing you can do is to allow him to see himself. That doesn’t mean you start listing things off and bringing anything to his attention, just be kind and loving, be a living example of love and he will change. Hold no resentment towards him. If you are angry go to him and apologize for holding it against him and tell him you forgive him, never try to push your ideas or thoughts, beliefs into your man, 99.99% of the time it will be rejected and create resentment or strife

2018-08-07 04:25:42 UTC

Absolutely. I agree with you 100%

2018-08-07 04:26:06 UTC

That’s part of why I’m leaving him alone for now

2018-08-07 04:26:44 UTC

Hm I don’t feel I’m angry with him, though I can probably look deep in myself and see if there’s any

2018-08-07 04:26:59 UTC

He’s been a great influence in my life so for now I don’t think there’s any anger lol

2018-08-07 04:27:53 UTC

That feeling of protection that came from anger is actually what it feels like to be in a fallen state ( unenlightened/being away from the truth ) you were protected from god’s way. “Protected” by the devil

2018-08-07 04:28:23 UTC

:(

2018-08-07 04:28:29 UTC

Definitely

2018-08-07 04:29:06 UTC

The devil is workin overtime to deceive the children of the truth by pretending to be god. Pretending to protect people or empower people with anger. It’s all lies, it will destroy you.

2018-08-07 04:29:30 UTC

I still have an attitude on me, and I still stand up for myself and be assertive if need be. But I’m nothing like the way I used to years ago, and not even in the couple of months watching Jesse.

2018-08-07 04:29:43 UTC

Yeah it deff was

2018-08-07 04:30:26 UTC

And even though over the last year I’ve been fighting with libs, that anger from them was no good for me

2018-08-07 04:30:39 UTC

And I feel once you feed the anger it tries to take control everywhere else

2018-08-07 04:30:45 UTC

Until it’s destroyed everything

2018-08-07 10:57:19 UTC

Exactly

2018-08-07 23:56:11 UTC

"Truth Triumphs" God said so.
https://youtu.be/yfpkGhvZTcI

2018-08-08 08:16:31 UTC

I have a question. I'm reading through the king james bible for the first time and I've heard the best way to read it is to stager the chapters of the old and new testament togeather. Why should or shouldn't I do it this way?

2018-08-08 10:06:45 UTC

There are about 66 different books in the bible, by different authors. It's like a little library in one volume innit?

2018-08-08 17:08:07 UTC

@バカFubuki-san What I usually suggest is that they read/download The Action Bible and try to get as much of an overview as possible, then read John, Acts, Genesis-Exodus, Numbers, and Joshua-Judges and 1 Sam-2 Kings (if they're the type of person who would like The Iliad). If they're less mystically inclined then switch out Luke for Acts and maybe skip Genesis and Numbers.

2018-08-08 17:11:28 UTC

Sar is a Bible pro^ he’s the right one to answer this question

2018-08-08 18:42:32 UTC

Ty sar sir I’m going to look at this

2018-08-11 20:44:31 UTC

Good afternoon everyone how are you

2018-08-12 01:46:31 UTC

Hey ape how u DOIN

2018-08-12 22:42:53 UTC

Is the earth the age as stated in the Bible?

2018-08-12 22:44:43 UTC

depends at what degree of the earth was perpenicular to the sun when it started

2018-08-13 17:33:32 UTC

The Creation was not complete until Adam was created, so its years are numbered from his birth. Before that hominids had only animal souls, and things were running on a "divine calendar" where long lengths are time are contracted more and more the closer you get to the Big Bang.

2018-08-13 17:50:41 UTC

Now, with this creation… which was like a small fine speck [i.e. the singularity before the Big Bang] and had no substance were created…all the creations in the heavens and on the earth. -- Ramban's commentary on Genesis (~1200 AD)

“It does not say, “Let there be evening’ but ‘And there was evening’; we see from here that there was a system of time beforehand.” Even though time is a creation, and before creation there was no time, it refers to time in regard to those two thousand years. For those days were not as human days, but rather a day from those years was of the days about which there is no comprehension. This is as it is written, (Job 36:26) “Are Your years as those of men?" -- R. Bachya, Commentary on Genesis 1:3 (from the 1200s)

One of God’s days is a thousand years, as it says, “For a thousand years are in Your eyes as a fleeting yesterday.” Since one of our years is 365 ¼ days, a year on High is 365,250 our years. -- Isaac of Akko (from the 1200s)

This seven thousand year cycle is merely one Sabbatical cycle amidst a larger cycle of seven Sabbatical cycles and a Jubilee. Hence, the total duration of the universe is 49,000 years (7 x 7,000). Some understand that the world is now in its sixth Sabbatical cycle, which would mean that the world is 42,000 [divine] years old.” -- Nechunya b. Hakanah (from the 1st century AD)

365,250 years (per divine year) x 42,000 divine years = 15.3 billion years old, remarkably close to the modern understanding of 13.82 billion years

https://i0.wp.com/ladderofjacob.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/timelines12.png?resize=620%2C451&ssl=1

2018-08-13 18:20:42 UTC

Woooowww

2018-08-13 18:21:51 UTC

I was literally this morning trying to think that the whole making life in so many days was probably a lot larger than just what we know to be a day. That's incredible.

2018-08-13 18:30:46 UTC

I don't believe that Sar

2018-08-13 18:30:57 UTC

That is misinterpretation

2018-08-13 18:31:11 UTC

Creation was six days

2018-08-13 18:31:21 UTC

Big bang not real

2018-08-13 18:31:57 UTC

And when God said to him 1 day is like a thousand, he's showing us how time doesn't matter to Him like it does to us.

2018-08-13 18:32:41 UTC

Big Bang theory was formulated by a priest. The name "Big Bang" is supposed to be a derisive name for his crazy theory. He based it on these opinions going back at least to the 1200s

2018-08-13 18:33:13 UTC

Hm I don't exactly believe in big bang, I bank on god, but I think it's just having an open mind in knowing that it could have taken god a lot longer of a time that we are able to conceive

2018-08-13 18:35:41 UTC

When atheists figured out the Christian Big Bang they were making fun of was real, they started making fun of Christians claiming that Big Bang was an atheist theory and that Christians really believe in young earth and flat earth.

2018-08-13 18:36:17 UTC

But rednecks heard these claims that Christians believe in young earth and flat earth and started yelling "dangnabbit if it's what Christians believe then it's what I believe"

2018-08-13 18:44:22 UTC

Young Earth Creationism (literal interpretation of Genesis 1) was invented in the 1900s. It was never mainstream Christian belief: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism#Christian_fundamentalism_and_belief_in_a_young_Earth

2018-08-13 18:58:37 UTC

I feel there are things in the bible which should be taken literally, and those that should not and were probably meant in a philosophical nature. But a lot of times we see people either take things they really shouldn't as not literal, like the order of life and gender roles, while taking other things like the creation process and such quite literally.

2018-08-13 19:03:20 UTC

^

2018-08-13 21:52:18 UTC

ponder that thousands of years ago, in ancient India, they were measuring (rather quantifying) time to a three hundredths of a microsecond, all the way to trillions of years. ponder how or why they would have needed that sort of precision, or how anyone back then would have even conceived of the very thought of such units. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_units_of_time

2018-08-13 22:15:26 UTC

Sar I believe in young earth, not flat Earth. Nothing wrong with rednecks. We built America.

2018-08-13 22:18:36 UTC

The Bible is historical. The only parts that aren't literal are purposely the parables, poems, and metaphors.

2018-08-14 17:50:16 UTC

I disagree with all that @Stopvegans but somehow Jesse's message appeals to us both

2018-08-14 17:50:37 UTC

Actually I do agree with "Nothing wrong with rednecks. We built America."

2018-08-14 17:50:47 UTC

but everything else is wrong wrong wrong!

2018-08-14 18:22:06 UTC

@FivePointPalm I don't care if you disagree with the truth.

2018-08-14 18:22:45 UTC

@FivePointPalm It's not an atheist channel.

2018-08-14 18:23:51 UTC

I see, so it's your way or it's atheism huh?

2018-08-14 18:24:27 UTC

@FivePointPalm if you don't believe the Bible, you're bad. It's good vs Evil.

2018-08-14 18:24:59 UTC

I don't believe it's a book that's suppose to serve as a literal historical record or as a scientific document

2018-08-14 18:25:14 UTC

I also don't believe it's suppose to teach you how to play the violin either

2018-08-14 18:25:15 UTC

The Bible is the truth

2018-08-14 18:25:35 UTC

It doesn't matter what you believe. Truth is truth.

2018-08-14 18:25:45 UTC

Children of the lie push evolution.

2018-08-14 18:26:07 UTC

And they say homosexuality is a Bible interpretation issue.

2018-08-14 18:26:25 UTC

do you get your values from the bible or from God?

2018-08-14 18:27:06 UTC

Do you have any values?

2018-08-14 18:28:10 UTC

I see, you couldn't answer the question

2018-08-14 18:28:18 UTC

anyway gotta go to work, nice sparring with you

2018-08-14 18:28:19 UTC

ttyl

2018-08-14 18:29:44 UTC

Bye👌

2018-08-14 18:31:52 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467164315598979072/478994181306580992/Screenshot_20180814-1429082.png

2018-08-14 19:38:34 UTC

@FivePointPalm we shared the same opinion then <:GWpinkuKittyHeheh:392308492624723973>

2018-08-14 19:50:20 UTC

Genesis 1 actually proves evolution

2018-08-14 19:59:48 UTC

"Let the water teem with living creatures, and let flying creatures fly above the earth across the vault of the sky." Biologists often sneer at this as saying that birds came directly from fish.

2018-08-14 20:00:46 UTC

Actually, dragonflies were the first creatures to leave the ocean, i.e. flying creatures. Meaning Genesis 1:20 was right about macroevolution before anyone knew anything about evolution.

2018-08-14 20:01:53 UTC

In fact, ancient Biblical commentators, when asked whether flying creatures came from the earth or from the sea, insisted the answer was "both"

2018-08-14 20:02:15 UTC

i.e. dragonflies came from the sea, but birds came from land

2018-08-14 20:33:56 UTC

Interesting stuff

2018-08-14 22:14:20 UTC

Nope

2018-08-14 22:14:51 UTC

Mental gymnastics

2018-08-24 02:55:33 UTC
2018-08-24 02:55:41 UTC

??? Can you see this

2018-08-24 02:56:02 UTC

Did you have the arrow clicked to minimize the category maybe??

2018-08-24 03:55:58 UTC

The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing.
Zephaniah 3:17 KJV

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467164315598979072/482397634120908803/1535082942198_1280x1280.jpg

2018-08-24 03:57:17 UTC

Verse of the Day

2018-08-24 17:58:03 UTC

There's a name for believing Jesus was just a really cool guy with superpowers, it's called Islam

2018-08-24 18:10:43 UTC

You're saying the Jews corrupted the NT. That's what Muslims believe.

2018-08-24 18:11:04 UTC

It's literally how the Qur'an starts off

2018-08-24 18:11:31 UTC

You're even spazzing out the way a Muslim does when his taqiyya is showing

2018-08-24 18:27:44 UTC

Sounds like racism... not too dissimilar from Quranic Arab supremacy

2018-08-24 18:46:41 UTC

Canada is White? Are you sure?

2018-08-24 18:47:02 UTC

It's simple enough to say Canada is a Christian country and Sharia Law isn't compatible with its constitution or its religion

2018-08-24 18:47:21 UTC

When you go racist you lose people and ignore the spiritual root of the problem

2018-08-24 18:48:27 UTC

Really the problem is that you're trying to rally racists and drag Christianity down into Identitarian heresy rather than lift Identitarians up into spirituality

2018-08-24 19:36:44 UTC

Do you pride yourself on not having thoughts?

2018-08-24 19:38:30 UTC

at what point in time did we realize racism didn’t exist ?

2018-08-24 19:42:04 UTC

no such thing as racism

2018-08-24 19:43:45 UTC

"Race doesn't exist" "lol those loony liberals" "Racism doesn't exist" "\*clap clap clap \* so brave!"

2018-08-24 19:44:15 UTC

Was the Armenian genocide racism?

2018-08-24 19:44:33 UTC

it was evil not racism

2018-08-24 19:44:48 UTC

So racial conflict is actually tribal conflict, even though race exists, and even though these people are not in tribes

2018-08-24 19:44:50 UTC

jesse has talked about this many times

2018-08-24 19:45:17 UTC

When people say racism, they mean tribalism. To correct them is to be totally pedantic.

2018-08-24 19:45:30 UTC

Even you yourself interchange them

2018-08-24 19:45:53 UTC

no isms' just evil

2018-08-24 19:47:37 UTC

oh well

2018-08-24 19:50:43 UTC

lol

2018-08-24 19:52:05 UTC

rofl

2018-08-24 19:52:21 UTC

ty 😃

2018-08-24 19:58:10 UTC

America is a Christian country. Hitler was a militant atheist. National SOCIALISM is an atheist ideology. It's not possible to love America and be a socialist.

2018-08-24 19:58:33 UTC

It's certainly possible to co-opt America though.

2018-08-24 20:00:33 UTC

socialism only works if ppl work for free. not if the income is free

2018-08-24 20:00:41 UTC

money is a failing system

2018-08-24 20:01:21 UTC

Most of the people saying "Not everyone who disagrees with you is a nazi/racist" are literally nazis and/or racists. And their argument is, fundamentally, that you shouldn't be PREJUDICED against someone espousing nazi beliefs and assume they're a nazi, because they're mad someone figured it out. But the hilarious thing is, they're prejudiced and mad about other people being prejudiced.

2018-08-24 20:01:25 UTC

Truth does not abide in such people.

2018-08-24 20:33:03 UTC

forgive ur parents

2018-08-24 20:33:07 UTC

silent prayer

2018-08-24 20:33:09 UTC

and character

2018-08-24 20:33:56 UTC

idk what jesse would say specificallly but these do help

2018-08-25 11:08:26 UTC

Trash can

2018-08-25 16:29:52 UTC

<:jesselee:464176456864628736>

2018-08-25 18:06:56 UTC

@Deleted User sun you don't have to be...come to the Lord who created you

2018-08-25 20:56:56 UTC

😍

2018-08-30 00:28:43 UTC

I don't know how to move whole conversations I wish I would have all my written conversations in one place. especially from the year of 2018

2018-08-30 00:29:02 UTC

Luckily for me and all of you I do have them in God and in my head

2018-08-30 00:29:06 UTC

in my spirit too

2018-08-30 00:29:28 UTC

And luckily for all of us this spirit did awake and started to address people on time and to speak about things

2018-08-30 00:29:31 UTC

and out loud

2018-08-30 00:29:44 UTC

especially about bil clinton

2018-08-30 00:29:49 UTC

and his wife

2018-08-30 00:29:53 UTC

about god

2018-08-30 00:30:07 UTC

about what jewish and muslims and christians are doing wrong

2018-08-30 00:30:14 UTC

and about who i am

2018-08-30 00:30:31 UTC

i did tell you many things you knew but no one else at that time

2018-08-30 00:30:36 UTC

was speaking of to you

2018-08-30 00:30:47 UTC

you can't recognize me it's ok i know god is confused

2018-08-30 00:30:59 UTC

otherwise he wouldn't need me or you

2018-08-30 00:31:07 UTC

or christ

2018-08-30 00:31:28 UTC

so my message to all is to keep supporting jesse and try to find god thru christ.

2018-08-30 00:31:42 UTC

doesn't matter which christ if both to you are defined good

2018-08-30 00:31:49 UTC

cause both lead to god

2018-08-30 00:31:59 UTC

you just have to recognize the way

2018-08-30 00:32:05 UTC

i am sorry for there is a satan

2018-08-30 00:32:11 UTC

and an opposite way

2018-08-30 00:32:16 UTC

i didnt choose this

2018-08-30 00:32:44 UTC

world leaders spies and "intellectuals" know of me

2018-08-30 00:32:56 UTC

spiritual leaders did describe me good

2018-08-30 00:33:04 UTC

plus i am saying to you all these things

2018-08-30 00:33:14 UTC

and I am naming which leaders I am addressing

2018-08-30 00:33:19 UTC

to who did I write already

2018-08-30 00:33:32 UTC

to which spiritual leaders am speaking

2018-08-30 00:33:39 UTC

everything is known

2018-08-30 00:33:45 UTC

there is nothing to hide

2018-08-30 00:34:50 UTC

in this time where there is a non violent solution

2018-08-30 00:35:05 UTC

there is a chosen son and daugher of god by him

2018-08-30 00:35:18 UTC

one living and the closest to his decision

2018-08-30 00:35:32 UTC

both are sinners

2018-08-30 00:35:44 UTC

after us

2018-08-30 00:35:47 UTC

there is this kid

2018-08-30 00:35:54 UTC

he will be of god but of me

2018-08-30 00:36:03 UTC

he knows my every word and that i tried

2018-08-30 00:36:25 UTC

he will see that i wasnt lazy but god defined me as so

2018-08-30 00:36:38 UTC

he will see that i wasnt anti christ but god defined me as so

2018-08-30 00:36:47 UTC

if you let him see that I failed

2018-08-30 00:36:53 UTC

that you all failed

2018-08-30 00:37:05 UTC

he will be mercyless to your bloodline on earth

2018-08-30 00:37:15 UTC

and god placed him there for that specific role

2018-08-30 00:37:18 UTC

not me

2018-08-30 00:37:22 UTC

not the devil

2018-08-30 00:37:28 UTC

he is placed there cause of the devil

2018-08-30 00:37:34 UTC

someone to carry that sin

2018-08-30 00:38:36 UTC

He is fit warrior. White and blone. He doesn't like other races than white. His wife will be white. He doesn't tolerate Jewish or Muslims. He will be something like hitler

2018-08-30 00:38:45 UTC

You already feel the glympse of his existance

2018-08-30 00:38:55 UTC

Cause he is already been born

2018-08-30 00:39:16 UTC

All that is happening and all that he is will reflect on him

2018-08-30 00:39:21 UTC

God placed him there

2018-08-30 00:39:28 UTC

He will kill all on his path

2018-08-30 00:39:31 UTC

Jewish first

2018-08-30 00:39:35 UTC

Muslim second

2018-08-30 00:39:44 UTC

Asians Africans indians after

2018-08-30 00:39:52 UTC

He is white he wont tolerate anyone

2018-08-30 00:39:58 UTC

Cause he will be the one and only

2018-08-30 00:40:01 UTC

Close to god

2018-08-30 00:40:11 UTC

This is the desire of one opposite of me

2018-08-30 00:40:45 UTC

He will know all facts like me and jesus and god

2018-08-30 00:40:54 UTC

He will know like I know I am lazy

2018-08-30 00:41:04 UTC

He will know his role and he will state it clearly

2018-08-30 00:41:10 UTC

No one will be able to prevent him

2018-08-30 00:41:30 UTC

Cause he will know god's rules good and you wont

2018-08-30 00:41:38 UTC

This kid knows my every word

2018-08-30 00:41:50 UTC

Even sentences which you cannot get or understand

2018-08-30 00:41:54 UTC

He sees it perfectly

2018-08-30 00:42:06 UTC

Like me or grace have this vision to see more than regular people

2018-08-30 00:42:13 UTC

This kid has same intelligence

2018-08-30 00:42:21 UTC

Only god placed him there

2018-08-30 00:42:35 UTC

As counter balance he is not bad

2018-08-30 00:42:55 UTC

If things start going into direction of satan

2018-08-30 00:43:04 UTC

and both christ and me showed you God and the way

2018-08-30 00:43:25 UTC

and if humanity with democracy and politics decides

2018-08-30 00:43:33 UTC

to go towards Satan

2018-08-30 00:43:38 UTC

then kid will reset

2018-08-30 00:43:57 UTC

Scolars of Jerusalem who are good people were trying to make a re-trail to Jesus.

2018-08-30 00:44:00 UTC

Infidels.

2018-08-30 00:44:14 UTC

They don't know humans cannot judge God nor christ nor anti Christ

2018-08-30 00:44:23 UTC

They will see for themselves too

2018-08-30 00:44:44 UTC

Only Christ God and Anti Christ can judge you.

2018-08-30 00:44:57 UTC

Only one Judgment is spoken.

2018-08-30 00:45:07 UTC

One responds for all three.

2018-08-30 00:45:22 UTC

Satan will fool you about everything.

2018-08-30 00:45:26 UTC

But remember my words.

2018-08-30 00:45:32 UTC

And compare mine to satans.

2018-08-30 00:45:39 UTC

Our identity wont match either

2018-08-30 00:45:50 UTC

Then rest facts will follow

2018-08-30 00:45:56 UTC

it really depends how dumb you are

2018-08-30 00:46:02 UTC

and do you believe or not

2018-08-30 00:46:12 UTC

those two things

2018-08-30 00:46:16 UTC

then you can learn more

2018-08-30 00:46:23 UTC

about the spirit about the letter

2018-08-30 00:46:41 UTC

I repeat for the end. Christ is the best way to come to God.

2018-08-30 00:47:48 UTC

You can come to god thru me too. I too will point to Christ but in a different way than you think, opposite. But it leads to Christ and God. However Anti Christ or opposite of christ it seems to you in all my posts and mistakes and my earthly vunerable body.

2018-08-30 00:48:01 UTC

Illiterate incoherenet sinner with 10000 flaws

2018-08-30 00:48:18 UTC

Just remember good I came I told you about God.

2018-08-30 00:48:20 UTC

About satan

2018-08-30 00:48:29 UTC

I defined things better , best i could

2018-08-30 00:48:38 UTC

I am below average

2018-08-30 00:48:50 UTC

Sick hurt wounded

2018-08-30 00:49:06 UTC

but my id doesnt matter dont confuse yourself on the way

2018-08-30 00:50:53 UTC

I hope we make it I will never lose hope in god

2018-08-30 00:51:10 UTC

I want to see reality in which only gods laws are respected

2018-08-30 00:51:15 UTC

that's it

2018-08-30 00:51:30 UTC

it's shame some things are not logical or defined to most

2018-08-30 00:51:52 UTC

things are changing to better

2018-08-30 00:51:56 UTC

this is important

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