I have the financial resources to buy land and start if I really want to. But I am not going to leave my normie job to find out.

I would just go on my days off from work to a local ranch. There are a few.

Well if you're looking to keep your day job then I can't really help you there but if you really like it, and ever want to get some experience working with a large outfit, guys around here are always looking for hired men.

I work for a 24000 acre farm near Pierre, SD. I love it out here.

That is good to know, thank you Andrew. You live in a beautiful part of the nation.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/04/25/599652635/rural-lands-at-risk-as-ranchers-prepare-for-retirement

Opportunity?

I f**cking hate developers.

And this shit is just gonna continue as more and more whites flee farther and farther from cultural enrichment.

What was touched on in the article is that there are state programs to help retiring farmers transfer land to young farmers. Sometimes this is like an apprenticeship, work-to-own thing. Could be good for some of our guys.

There are certainly people who express an interest in farming. The question is whether they're willing to do the work

Its a tough business, especially out west

Who here adheres to a vegan or plant-based diet? I’ve tried in on and off over the past 8 months, and I feel a sort of mental lethargy. Is this just placebo or is that a very real effect from this sort of diet?

Like not only mentally-tired but scatter-brained as well.

@AltRightMick Your brain thrives on healthy animal fats. Your brain is like 70-80% fat, it needs it to function at peak.

Depriving your brain of animal fats will do that to you.

@Gaius Mucius Scaevola I feel like that’s just a meme though. Joe Rogan used to say that all of the time in between his comments on how DMT is what makes us dream at night.

I'm on keto, I know several other people on keto

And others who have been on keto

All share my experience of clearer thought and better focus and concentration on keto

Just because Joe Rogan spouts memes sometimes doesnt' meane everything he says is a meme

http://brighterbrains.org/articles/entry/ketosis-makes-your-brain-work-better-its-why-dave-asprey-puts-butter-in-his

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20204773

https://ketodietapp.com/Blog/lchf/the-ketogenic-diet-and-cognition

I feel like genuinely giving Keto a fair shot would require me to give up beer for a couple months.

My head was never more clear than on keto

Having beer is tragic

There are light beers that are only like 2-3g of carbs per 12oz bottle. If you are going for under 20g of carbs per day, you can fit in beer. I don't like to drink alcohol much at all really because your body cannot metabolize fat while there is alcohol in your system, but if you are having a drink, most liquor is 0g of carbs, and you can find beers that are like 2-3g. Now, they will be shitty light beers, but it will be beer.

@here If any of you guys are interested in farming you can shoot me a DM. I work on a 24,000 acre farm in South Dakota. I've only been working here for about a month but if I can't answer your questions I can find someone who can.

I recommend, if any of you guys are single and aren't tied down to anything, Take up this mans request to form a community up in SD

It's my first day back on keto. Lost a bunch of weight last year doing it. Anyone thinking about it you gotta try it. It works

I’m on day two of Keto because I gained a bunch of weight after getting hurt back in December. I’m feeling that initial Keto fatigue

But it’s so true how just eating some fatty stuff really makes you feel full quickly

@Der Seeteufel - SD Should I say fuck college, I'll be knocking on your doorstep

@Grossly Incandescent first week or so sucks till you start to get use to it. Pork rinds, bacon and sour cream are your best friends

@Grossly Incandescent drink Powerade zero and get some pink Himalayan salt

Drink a lot of water eat lots of bacon

@AltRightMick there are light beers that aren't bad

I had to give up cider, there's no such thing as keto friendly cider

@Mark Vandal pork rinds and french onion dip is also good

@Grossly Incandescent Drink a lot of water, get some "Lite Salt" and Magnesium Citrate from the supermarket and put a tsp of Lite Salt and a tbsp of Magnesium Citrate in about a liter of water. Add some flavoring like Mio or crystal lite.

One thing I will say, a thing I enjoy even more than the weight loss, is that I appreciate the way my mind works now on a carnivore way of eating. I am so much more focused, as you will hear people say, but the clarity has made me so much more assertive and “alpha”.

I don’t feel enslaved by impulse or passions.

@AltRightMick I’m on a mostly low-fat vegan diet not because I’m a vegan but because I like the effects it’s had for me. No mental fog.

Crystal lite has aspartame which is bad for you

Someone redpill me on aspartame- I’ve heard very conflicting things about it

(((conflicting)))

I stay away from any of those sugar free sweeteners. I used to sell an energy drink called “zipfizz”, which had no sugar and claimed to be healthy. It had sucralose which is bad. The owner/creater ended up dying at 44, didnt say the cause.

Some kid at my elementary school went to the hospital after consuming Zipfizz

Just the powder by itself

I got in trouble for jokingly calling him "Zipfizz"

http://www.walb.com/story/11841057/energy-drink-mix-sends-students-to-hospital

LOL. Dude the creater was from Washington I almost forgot. That is hilarious

"Whats up Zip?"

Hey bros, any good strategies for gaining weight? I've been upping my calorie intake lately but it seems like I just burn it all off.

Up it more. Drink your calories if necessary through shakes

Literally only way though. Up it more and stay consistent.

Lift with low reps and heavy weight too

Abs are made in the kitchen ... and on the bike. 2,200 calories burned in one ride.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQEJyjKTH9g

I also like the Brian Shaw goes shopping video

He buys like every cold cut they have

Brian Shaw is a great guy, both in competition and out of it

Has anyone seen this "Snake Diet"?

Haven't. What is it?

He’s a little over the top. FYI.

https://youtu.be/t8794X4I8nk

Way over the top lol

Put his ego aside, the plan has benefits. Especially if you’re over weight or need to detox.

https://youtu.be/h223esl4JHc

interesting

My wife and I had an argument last night. And I found myself stress eating today. Any tips on how to avoid that?

Bad food will only make you feel worse. Overeating will only make you feel worse. Setting back your own goals will only make you feel worse. When you already feel bad, don't make yourself feel worse. Eat some good food, train hard, and stick to your goals and you will only have the argument to worry about. Overeat and binge and don't train and now you have added more stress to your plate. Stay strong and make up with your wife.

Rgr. Will do

@Felden - CO yeah man that’s a tough one. It’s hard not to turn to our vices in situations like that. It may be that the best course is to come here and vent and let us slap you on the back and keep your head in the game.

Is keto really as useless as some people say it is? I've been doing it for about a week and I've already lost weight, I've still been going to the gym and haven't sensed any loss in strength, and even my acne seems to be clearing up.

The first time I tried keto was the first time I cut, so I'm not sure if there was any particular benefit or not. But I mean, It definitely worked

We made up, and I grilled her steaks.

@Felden - CO Glad to hear it brother.

When I’m stressed, I try to take it out on an exercise. I love bicycling because I can get far away from my current “space” which helps mentally de-stress, plus let any frustration pump straight into the pedals.

I used to go on late night runs and would always zone out or fall in love with some good music. I definitely miss that. Lifting doesn't have the same effect - sometimes, but mostly not.

I find lifting when angry just makes me sore and angry.

Is there any reason I shouldn't drink beef broth?

maybe if you already have super high bp but i cant imagine you do

@Jacob go for bone broth.

👆🏻

So, collagen peptides amiright?

Anyone have any ideas on how I can gain more weight? I’ve been drinking weight gainers and slamming down Denny’s Pancakes with eggs sausage and hash browns for 2 weeks with little growth in my weight. Just curious if there’s anything else I can do. For perspective I’m 5’7 123.8 lbs and did wrestling for practically all my life.

get vertical

train smarter

If you don't have good training then it's going to be alot less optimal

Also consistency is key, don't hop around programs too much

I tend to follow my days very closely and I workout out 6 times a week.

And "get vertical" is in reference to stan efferding's vertical diet

I was just about to ask what that meant 😂

you don't have to follow it to the tee, but the principles of it are golden

I see

HERESY <:onionsun:394101074526601226> <:onion:390756048656662528>

You aren't eating enough bruv

Hardgainers are a myth

😎

Denny's pancakes w/ a loaded breakfast platter is a mere snack for me.

Count your calories

Just for a week

And tell us what your average caloric intake is

@ChippedStones

Will do

Its funny you say that man. I decided I want to put on some size before I get married so last week I started having whole milk in the mornings with eggs, drinking chocolate milk post workout and throughout the day as well as eating bigger meals. By Saturday I felt worn out so I gave myself some recovery time yesterday and today

Cooked some liver mkay

@Rogue I've been eating so much liver lately. It's so good.

Does beef liver taste different than chicken livers?

Because chicken livers are disgusting

No, Chicken liver tastes fowl

Ouch god ow oof

Chicken livers are good of cooked right

I used to eat them at my Taiwanese friends house growing up

Based Taiwanese friend

Don’t eat organ meat. You aren’t a ghoul

🤔

@ChippedStones
I was in the same boat.

I graduated bootcamp at 6'1" 145 lbs.

Guys like us simply have faster metabolisms. You'll need to eat more than the avg guy to have the surplus calories for your body to grow.

I'm around 190 lbs now, partially because i'm in my 30's with a slower metabolism, and partially because I make a concerted effort to eat enough to be the size I want to be.

@Tyler0317 I’ve upped up the game by having pancakes with peanut butter and peanuts every other morning. I’ve also been pounding weight gainer.

Be warned on the weightgainer powders, to get the extra calories, they typically just add tons of sugar to the protein powder.

Check the nutrients on the side.

I personally use unflavored Whey protein isolate purchased in bulk.
It comes in cheap plastic bags, and has no additives.

I mix that with whole milk, to give it some taste and calories

https://www.hardrhino.com/

^ WHere i buy from

That's why I just eat meat and eggs.

@Fox Good point.

Eggs are cheap.

I hard boil them to avoid the taste.

I eat 4 scrambled every weekday morning. @Tyler0317

@Caboose a person can eat 100% meat if they include organ meat into their diet. Organ meat is where the majority of micro nutrients are found.

When I harvest a game animal, I take the majority of organs. The heart is eaten first with butter, mushrooms, and onions.

I hope he was trolling, yeah.

Organ meats are great.

Extremely undervalued.

@Caboose was that a King Of The Hill reference

@Felden - CO he anit trolling. @Rogue

@Jonathan Y - NC yes king of the hill is all time favorite show

“If god didn’t want us to eat meat he wouldn’t have invented steak sauce”- bobby hill

@Jonathan Y - NC I heard the showbizz deli has some mean chicken liver

nice

I got a good deal on chicken, but I'm doing keto and it has barely any fat and I'm on keto. How do eat massive amounts of chicken without messing up my macros?

I've had luck avoiding gluconeogenesis (protein being turned into sugar in the event of excess protein being in the body, pushing you out of keto) by keeping my protein at less try han 1g/lbs of bodyweight.

Chicken is fine, just make sure you're hitting your fat and carb goals. Cover it in butter and salt or olive oil and salt for some fat and electrolytes

@Jacob

Less than*

Also try going to bed before 3am. Haha

That's another issue I've been wanting to fix

But it looks like the chicken will be fine. Thanks.

How long should I intermittently fast for?

Is 8 hours enough? I could probably do less. Apparently some people do 12, lol. Isn't that just normal eating?

Eat within a 6-8 hour window.

Will 6 be much more effective than 8?

8 hours?

That's called going to sleep, nigga

no lol

I was taking about the period that I do eat

I guess they was my fault for stating wrongly

though I did also question what the point of a 12 hour fast is, because that literally just sounds like normal eating

@Jacob skip breakfast, eat lunch at noon, dinner at 5-6, a snack if you want it before 8 pm and then sleep.

Does anyone have good resources on keto as far as a scientific oriented studies/articles, the subject in mind is 55+. I have been on and off this diet for ~4 months and seen really great success, but I've just followed general guides on broscience/youtube videos and I'd prefer something a bit more substantial for him to review before considering the diet.

thanks @here

@Deleted User - Mark Sisson is an OK resource for keto, though he verges on the "broscience" spectrum. Check out the archives on marksdailyapple.com

Thank you

@Deleted User https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6KClPkotxM

I think this is the right video, this lady is a M.D. and gives a well sourced defense of time restricted eating

Finally back in ketosis after last weekend's extreme cheat. Lesson learned. French fries maybe, coke definitely not.

Next cheat meal will probably be Defend the Rockies!

How long should I stay in keto for? I've already lost 16 pounds. Do I just stay until I'm satisfied with how much I've lost? Should I lose a bit more than I actually want to, since I'll probably gain some back? What do I do once I plateau?

It's really up to you, I mean

to my understanding you're not a huge weight already

I'd say to do keto when cutting, and break from it in an attempt to gain muscle

In not of the opinion that a perpetual state of anything is healthy

Ya I'm not fat or anything, I just noticed I was gaining weight and wanted to reverse course before I do get fat. Also I wanted to lose as much fat as possible since I'll inevitably gain some while trying to gain muscle.

https://youtu.be/SQ6xtn1aiP0

this title made laugh, but what do you guys think about the egg question? lol

That's a lot of cholesterol

I eat probably 6/day

welp

time to buy some eggs

👀

36 eggs and 1 whole onion a day, somebody try this and get back to me

Looked up 'raw orchic tissue tablets' on Amazon and read up. Had a good laugh.

Check out this review:

`This stuff works. Some people grew up never eating any onions or any testosterone herbs or anything hardly and ended up with balls that never really dropped, nor knew they were supposed to do that. Lots of kids insulted each other over it but people just ended up thinking size in men were in the genes and how hard people pumped weights in a gym. We live in an amazing world, don't we. In as little as an hour after the first tablet, this product makes the male gonads experience comfort and feel good feelings, like it is getting something it Really desperately needed. In just three days, the balls drop and after a week their size increases and they harden. Individual's results will vary. After the bottle is almost gone, the balls seem to continue functioning but at a stable rate, like the effect isn't just in High Gear anymore like it was originally, but that doesn't mean they aren't busy making 💪 muscles for the body, and masculine features. This may be a myth but there is a scientific publication that hints at it being true. There is a Tribe in Africa who drinks Bovine period blood and have proven that it increases their size to supernatural sizes. A product that combines whatever causes that with this would be the king of all male supplements. The gripe with these tablets is the flavor is a dirty one. Taken with Hint peach or cherry water this goes down the hatch rather easily. Tablet form removes all the gross thoughts and the bottle is discrete. Thank you Jesus Christ for this product. Edit: wow, I had no idea wearing boxers does help with these. Just started trying boxer undies that have breathing holes after wearing ordinary whites for nearly the entire bottle and now it seems it would have had greater results. Definitely keep the testes cooled for super results.`

Wow, that's quite something.

spicy garlic lime chicken with a vegetable medley:
Chicken recipe: https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/44868/spicy-garlic-lime-chicken/
*I added some parmesan cheese at the end of cooking to melt in this is optional

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Vegetable medley recipe: 2 yellow squash quartered
2 cucumber squash quartered
3 carrots quartered
1 to 1.5 onions sliced to length
salt to taste, pepper to taste, olive oil 3 tbsp, SLAP YA MAMA about 1 tsp
*Put all ingredients in glassware to bake and bake at 375 for about 20-25 mins.
IE card mandatory for aesthetic appeal.

I've done this but without the veggies, and it is really good.

Cheap to boot

Can't go wrong with chicken breast

What are some good staple foods to gain weight? That are relatively simple to prepare.

Oats

Milk

Throw butter in everything

Milk, cottage cheese, peanut butter. These are my gaining trifecta

Doesn’t peanut butter have a huge amount of sugar in it?

No

Actual peanut butter should have barely any, but even the shitty peanut butters with added sugar still don't have a lot

The weird flavored ones probably have a lot

Flavored peanut butter?

What

Ya they have flavors like honey lol

But actual peanut butter has little enough sugar that you can use it on keto

Well, as long as you're not eating it out of the container with a spoon

There is chocolate and white chocolate PB

Any way they can to make us fat and stupid

Sugar is in everything

Get organic peanut butter if you can. You know it is real because it does not last nearly as long as the skippy brand once you open it (no preservatives I assume).

Almond butter ftw

Almond butter tastes better, too

What are IE's thoughts on SNAKE JUICE?

🐍 🍹

decadent

Really? It tastes awful.

im from texas tho

u gotta ask some of 'em limp wrist northern boys cause u have similar tastes

I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing. I mean the snake diet?

2L H2O, 1tsp KCl, 0.5 tsp NaCl, 1 tsp NaCO3 ?

And fast 48+ Hours, break fast with a keto meal?

Yes

decadent

It seems like a meme. I was having great success (30 pounds down in less than two months) with Keto, skipped breakfasts, stronglifts 5x5 and sprints/calisthentics on off days). But I injured my back and I haven't been able to exercise in 8 days. Thought Snake Diet cold help me keep weight off until I can lift again.

Report back with results wood ape

Gonna do 48-72 to start.

May the cat of willpower be with you

Actually I'll give it a shot with you. I am up for experimenting in the name of knowledge to share with IE

I'll start tomorrow

Got the "no salt" KCl?

My local grocery store had it.

I'll swing by the grocer on the way out. I'll be out of town on business the next two days so it's a perfect time to start

I'm reading about it now

Cole Robinson seems maybe crazy. And maybe the success stories on 4 /fit/ are trolls. We'll see?

Only one way to know.

When he talks about refeeds, is that just a single meal? Is there a dietary restriction on it? Caloric?

My impression is that it's a keto meal, yes. It can be big (for you).

Or at least low-carb

I'll just do it keto, then

Well, here goes nothing. Got my snake juice ready.

I actually like the taste

I am thirsty... I want to drink regular water. I guess that's not allowed? How does one exercise on this stuff?

Pretty sure you can drink regular water. You just have to be sure to get that 2L of snake juice

Nvm

It's only snake juice haha

You can dilute it more though apparently, just use more water with same ingredients

Why is it so hard for some people to gain weight?