Lets not have the same argument again though lol

This is representation of the logo they will have using t-shirt vinyl and a mask. The final logo will be sticker vinyl and larger.

I do Judo so mine is just slam people, boots are good for that imo

@Narrative-Collapse#2426 Nigga that ain't a logo, it's a hashtag

I can advise others who are bringing self-defesne tools that you'll only really need a gun and/or OC spray (pepper spray). Both are legal in VA (the former only if you have a valid CCW permit in your homestate, check VA's reciprocity laws first) and with the amount of police presence you don't want to be seen wielding a deadly weapon like a knife. OC spray can engage multiple antifa in an instance and shut them down quicker. And if you ever have to draw your pistol at the rally it'll probably be in an event where the police have drawn theirs first anyway.

The problem would be after the rally when we're in the general public cesspool and there isn't any police standing watch. OC spray is still good here.

Left is a 4 ounce stream/cone/fog type, middle is a continual dispersal thrown canister, and right is a 16 oz riot-size unit. I recommend this Fox Labs 5.3 brand over all others.

I'll be concealed carrying a pistol, but I hadnt thought of riot mace. That would be really useful. 500 of our guys with riot mace cannisters would squash an antifa riot pretty fucking quickly

It's a bit pricey, almost $50 for a 16oz unit, but this shit really works. I see you're a medic by your name, are you in contact with the EMT/medic people? What can you recommend for pepper spray decontaminate? Whole milk in a spray bottle?

Sellner fended off 4 antifa with one pepper spray gun. If you've ever been pepper sprayed you know how debilitating it is.

I've read 1/1 water and Maalox is more effective than milk.

maalox the antacid?

Yep.

Read that on an injun anti-fed protest site, haha.

DO NOT USE MILK

Use saline

I have sourced this directly from a doctor.

I will ask about the Maalox shit

The good thing is that most of the OC will be water based OC and will Decon with water / saline and baby shampoo if they were using Oil based like I had in the army then it sucks to decon

Oil based spray fucks you up big time. I'm bringing some potent shit that The military isn't allowed to use any more. I "borrowed" it from an armory storage before I got out of the navy.

ya probably not a good idea to bring stolen, military-grade weaponry.

Right wingers having access to stolen, military grade weaponry is a good propaganda meme though 😂

The military stoped using most oil based spray being it starts on fire if you taze some one after you spray hem... happened a bunch of times in the detention facilities in Iraq

@HueTheHand haha. Looks like we might have just discovered a new punishments for trannys!!!

Flaming fag spray when?

Lol

@Hand Banana I personally will have maalox, water+dawn solution, and saline in spray bottles in my kit. Pretty sure others are also carrying spray bottles of counteragents. 👌

I read J&J baby shampoo + water is also effective?

^ Yes baby shampoo is great for both mace and pepper spray bring that shit

I'm bringing an emt, he says do not mix maalox and water until needed to keep it sterile

Good old milk helps with the capsaicin (active agent in pepper spray).

Water and Soap are reccomended. The baby shampoo is also a good idea.

Pretty sure the Milk thing is just a bad troll.

I think the milk works, but who wants to keep it cold while they're at a rally? And if not, who wants to be sprayed in the face with warm milk when there are other alternatives?

@Madison we will have a cooler.

but still yeah, a spray bottle of baby shampoo and water

👌🏻

Don't forget terrycloth towels too

https://www.amazon.com/EconoLed-Hydration-Climbing-Survival-Backpack/dp/B01L94H3QE

^Cheapest best rated option I could find, it's Amazon prime too

Stay hydrated brothers

And sisters

Maalox is good for pepper spray as well

Any antacid that won't harm the eyes

Are we all bringing fidget spinners or...?

VA law bans items that look like ninja stars

Goddamnit!!!

How will I soothe my tism then?

@khaos156-WV a simple internet search would have spared you the indignity of labeling well-meaning advice - from personal experience, no less - a "bad troll"

What's the general consensus on what to wear/bring defensive gear or normal clothing?

dress nicely. Khakis and a polo or semi casual button down

I'd recommend smart looking, neat clothing. Personally I'm not a big fan of the whole paramilitary or LARPing look. I believe khakis and a collared shirt is more effective optics.
Breathable, light material for the heat.
Good shoes or boots with ankle support and tread for obvious reasons

Obviously that goes for those like me who are just attending. Security detail/ shield wall folks should coordinate amongst themselves

Yeah my crew is going in black polos and black pants

@HueTheHand that's going to be hot as hell fam

@Kurt yeah ? I spent 2 weeks in TN mid month and wore the same thing heat doesn't bother me

Going for the black block look eh?

It will be cooler then eating body armor in the sand box 😊

@Thomas Morrow Nah Just my normal work / PSD clothing I've gotten use to doing black on black 😊 I don't like light colored clothing they get dirty to fast and show blood

Blood doesn't show on black

Lol

Have something that shows you on our side... in a melee shit gets confusing

Hopefully the police do their jobs and there won't be a melee

There will be lots of black on black on our side being TWPs colors are black on black I think same with NSM

The whole thing is going to be a powder keg, it'll turn into a shit show if a melee breaks out

Hope for the best prepare for the worst I guess

There will be melees

Mark my words

If you are unable to tell the difference between TWP/NSM and AntiFa because they are wearing black you should just BLEEP yourself

like everything else.... hope the best. Prepare for the worst

Looks like our SC SBC will be going with red polos

@Hand Banana anhero?

You know what would go real well with a white polo?

A pith helmet

@negronaut Or if you want something cheap that does the trick you can go with one of these
http://www.emedco.com/v-gardr-full-brim-hard-hats-585.html?sku=BB527&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsvGN7Iqj1QIVxBXTCh3fDAInEAkYASABEgIBT_D_BwE

https://www.zoro.com/erb-safety-shell-insert-6-panel-ball-cap-19402/i/G5062714/cg?gclid=CjwKCAjwzYDMBRA1EiwAwCv6JpkSDLfJndIWCoPyYFPuTbliwOhIqkTp-ca0hZCdEuUpgnqt7xAb3RoCdfcQAvD_BwE

Those bump inserts are so you dont hit your head on a crawlspace

They won't stop a brick or a bottle or a bikelock

Get a kevlar pasgt. They can be had for $50 on eBay and they make riot face shields that attach to them

Kurt V posted a great doc on them

For anyone concerned about covering tattoos, or just protection from sunburn, I'm getting this to go under my white polo. Supposed to be cool, compression, sweat wicking.

Only 14 bucks

Was planning on bringing this, just waiting to see if it gets approval. Still need to do some touching up, but you get the idea.

Lets hope they are!!

What did ya'll reinforce the shield edges with?

Looks like angle iron

I should bring my sabre

At Home Depot back where the brackets for the lumber are located there is an area with flat and angle pieces of metal. Also by the nuts and bolts you can find flat straps

What they said

About $40 worth of material. 15 without the brackets

I added the eyelets on top of the sides to mount a sling so it can be carried hands free when not engaged

An angled sling would be better

Carrying it like that it will flop around and be a pain in the ass

I think you are right... that's the prototype. Was thinking one more attachment point for a 3 point style sling

I am right

I do a lot of nerdy larp shit wit hshields

Lol I will follow your advice then

This was my first

did you see if they sell curved iron brackets? mine is a round shield. if not no biggie, i may actually just stretch some copper sheeting taut over it and rivet it down.

Not at home depot

copper it is

why metal

Something to cover the ugly plywood

sandpaper and paint

Think metal would be seen as too aggressive and warrant cop attention?

no.

not anymore than anyhting else

Metal is just heavy

I doubt they're going to have swords or halberds or something

I just figure the dings of antifa bodies against it would be a melody

A Symphony of delight

If they did that would be pretty sweet.

Makena real Viking shield https://www.facebook.com/O.W.Netherlands/videos/1879357082385487/

Roman symbols?

I see nothing Roman only Germanic

maybe a triskelion, but that'd be lost on normies

Put a swazi on it

I'm thinking the flag of Corsica

ddude holy shit

I saw the metal framing and figured it would help protect the edge

It's only 12 gauge steel so it's not very heavy

Just get some hose

Like rubber garden hose

^^^

contact cement is your friend for gluing shit too

Found a nice center shield adornment but could it be deemed a weapon with this?

best not to chance it

unless you wanna chance it

I found a black wrought-iron skull about the size of your palm at Home Depot. It's actually a bottle opener back in D handles and knobs department and it's pretty cool

Skull would be fucking bad ass omg. A white painted shield (currently favored color) with a gray or black skull 😍

@Melektaus

@Stannisthemannis why r u a shitskin

?

What I do

idk what did you do

Your name being brown means you're not in any group, right?

The "anttendie" role

yes

Is that who we're referring to as shitskins now?

yes

Roger

Oh yeah I guess my name color did change

Join a faction, brah

According to the almanac, there is a 33% chance of rain on any given August 12th in Charlottesville. Wunderground is calling for a 58% chance on August 12th., However, Wunderground always exaggerates the chance of rain. It is just their thing. They always call for rain. That being said, the satellite images suggest that there will most likely be some rainy days in Charlottesville next week. It might be over by August 12th.

Midatlantic in summer is the same everyday. 85-90 and dinner time thunderstorms

The forecast is calling for mid-80s all next week, which was a relief. Sick of the high 90s

Please let it be black pants/black shirt weather

Clear faceguards on a helmet are a no go in VA right?

Last I heard, they were allowed. Is that still the case @Heinz - MI ?

Shield design idea

BAD NEWS

I may not get my custom 'Make America White Again' hat in time for the rally.

Preemptive sad reacts are welcome.

Any one know where I can get a shirt like this or what it is called so I can look for one

thats from oswald mosely's outfit isnt it?

Yeah it so a black shirts uniform in the photo

That is what they call a priest collar on that shirt

I@Kurt I am so happy I'm in a place where people know what I'm taking about 😊

I'm making up a uniform for a project I'm working on

@greg-ky Doesn't a press collar have the fold over to hold the white thing thew this doesn't have that

I used to have a couple back in the eighties and that's what they called them. They're also known as a banded Mandarin and some manufacturers call them a grandad collar. Patrice collar does have the small fold over, I think they were called that just because of the similar appearance

*priest

👍🏼

Yeah it may be a little LARPIe but I like the old black shirt look and am trying to get a uniform together

The shirt in the photo is an original and they what $5k for it 😕

Black as a rule is a bad color imo.

y

why

black is a good color...for clothes

How is black a bad color ?

For cloning

It's a very traditional color for the movement

@Gusty-Chan

what i said is a dylann roof reference

Ancient defensive position suitable against BLM/Antifa hordes

Phalanx got btfo'd by Roman open order formations

@Stannisthemannis Because the Romans used projectiles to break up phalanx

Will our shield wall be similar to this Testudo?

No

@Tiwaz

Correct

And used a checkerboard formation to break the enemy line

Because people are bringing all kinds of different shields, will be more of a medieval formation with different shields in different ranks

Ah ok

I foresee something akin to a Saxon or Franish shield wall

Fuck yea nice

We have freikorps armbands too

That's awesome

Might paint my helmet cover too

People are bringing huge tower shields, and round shields as well so we will have a large diversity in types of shields

If only we had an armored car

Shield walls are sexy

While we're on this subject we should recreate this scene

https://youtu.be/0NuTaQsMNaE

Haha yes I made a meme a while back for this

Check this out

https://youtu.be/fEXT-zgLbW4

My shield

Multiple shields? Damn!

Having a shield party

recommendations on what to paint/design on the front of a 2x2 shield aaaaand go

what is

Freikorps logo

A few of our pool party have the armbands which inspired the shields

Is it true that all terrorists have some AIDS...and that all AIDS have some terrorists?

- Why, yes, here's the picture.

Inside of shield, prototype, h-how'd I do? A-am I a good nationalist?

Is that a pocket pussy next to the handle 😜

Yes. I'll need some company at night 😣

Lol

I made mine in 3/4" thick plywood so the thick padding helps me torque the shield against my forearm

@Melektaus

You're going to want some padding on the back of the shield, too

iirc the best foam to use would be a high density closed cell foam (like what camping mats are made from)

DAP contact cement as an adhesive

A 2x4 shield is hard to use offensively

You can throat punch a nigga with the bottom edge of a 2x2

We're mostly aiming for defensive shield use afaik

@Heinz - MI @Hand Banana

Correct

This for the official shield wall detail?

If so forget what I said...

i might not even need mine but i'm bringing one just in case

These are the best shields you can use for a defensive formation, which is what we are aimaing to achieve.

If youre bringing one, might as well familiarize yourself with the shield wall tactics in case you need to jump in there

the best defense is a good, mobile offense

but i will abide by the designated tactics by the field marshall

Hastings reenactors

In a melee, the best defense is one the opponent cannot get past. A shield wall is that, and tower shields make for an effective shield wall.

Projectile defense.

2 ranks, 1st rank kneels

Hastings 1066 or Venezuela 2017??

Hope other folks are bringing fire extinguishers

Maybe I've been watching too many euro maiden and Hamburg videos but molotovs concern me

@Heinz - MI @Kurt

That is for Cville 3.0

My local gun shop has a semi SAW for sale too

Anyone want to crowd fund me 2500??

^^ dibs for M249

A semi auto belt fead weapon is pointless you would be better off with a M4 or AK for 1/3 the price

Already have one of those ;)

Can you bump fire a 249??

@Stannisthemannis You can bumpfire anything

NOICE

They make semi-auto SAWs?