#gear_and_attire (Discord ID: 321380582112231425) in Charlottesville 2.0, page 2

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2017-06-24 23:42:17 UTC


2017-06-24 23:51:06 UTC

Why is it important to cover the ankle specifically?

2017-06-24 23:52:05 UTC
2017-06-24 23:54:02 UTC

@Rook - IN so you don't roll it

2017-06-25 00:06:16 UTC

It gives a little bit of extra support.

2017-06-25 00:07:31 UTC

@Rook - IN Mostly though in a scuffle with Fuck stains with no dignity, if you got knocked to the ground it will make it significantly harder someone to give one yank and pull your shoe off.

2017-06-25 00:08:05 UTC

It might not sound like much but how would that affect your effectiveness the rest of the night.

2017-06-28 18:22:10 UTC

http://www.511tactical.com/atac-8-side-zip-boot.html This is what I wear. Kind of on the expensive side but very comfortable for both standing and running.

2017-06-28 22:42:07 UTC

Bates are what I swear by

2017-06-28 22:43:48 UTC

I’ve owned both Bates and 5.11 and I prefer Bates.

2017-06-28 22:44:30 UTC


2017-06-29 07:16:04 UTC
2017-06-29 07:18:20 UTC

Niggas whomst dont have skin cancer aren't even white

2017-07-04 03:23:43 UTC
2017-07-04 22:34:37 UTC

@everyone what's the dress code?

2017-07-04 22:36:22 UTC

Look well put together. If you're with a group, you may have your own dress code.

2017-07-04 22:36:29 UTC

Basically, don't look like antifa.

2017-07-04 22:36:52 UTC

And absolutely no masks for any reason.

2017-07-04 22:39:22 UTC

VA laws are very strict about that

2017-07-05 06:15:36 UTC

whats the best way to not be identifiable?

2017-07-05 06:15:52 UTC

Not attend

2017-07-05 06:16:02 UTC

not an option

2017-07-05 06:16:10 UTC

You will be identifiable then

2017-07-05 06:16:24 UTC

You can curb some of it with sunglasses or facial hair if you don't normally wear it

2017-07-05 06:16:31 UTC

But no masks, etc.

2017-07-05 06:16:32 UTC

aviaotors and a hat it is..

2017-07-05 06:16:34 UTC

Cover up your tattoos

2017-07-05 06:17:36 UTC

huddle away from media.. back turned.

2017-07-05 06:17:58 UTC

no tats.

2017-07-05 06:18:38 UTC

You should be good then. For the most part, unless you are a "somebody," you will be fine.

2017-07-05 06:21:01 UTC

im a nbody. run away from inerviews for now, job is premo importante

2017-07-05 08:51:50 UTC

@Dan iiii I have plain black hats. I bought a bunch in bulk specifically because I once attended an event and wished I had one. I'm not trying to make money on these. DM me and we can talk details. If you want one.

2017-07-05 09:38:06 UTC


2017-07-07 03:21:44 UTC

Are we coordinating dress attire? Or is that only for the security folks?

2017-07-07 03:40:28 UTC

Security folks will be in White Bloc uniform so they're easily identified. Other organizations/groups can coordinate or not coordinate attire to organizational standards.

2017-07-11 15:40:31 UTC

I have no say in the matter but if you're at loss of what to wear it would be best to dress nice. We're trying to set good optics and if we're all presentable it's going to make antifa look worse than they already do

2017-07-11 20:25:44 UTC

Yeah, wear black pants, brown uniform shirts, and brown Italian style military cas

2017-07-11 20:25:45 UTC


2017-07-14 04:51:40 UTC
2017-07-14 04:52:04 UTC

I am coming Khakis and white polo.

2017-07-17 00:17:02 UTC

@Hand Banana Example on cap?

2017-07-17 00:56:18 UTC

@The Inquisitor [☧] something like this


2017-07-17 01:07:13 UTC

Also, are we gonna do armbands?

2017-07-17 01:08:38 UTC

@The Inquisitor [☧] armbands for what reason?

2017-07-17 01:09:02 UTC

@Erika To show how united we are

2017-07-17 01:09:03 UTC


2017-07-17 01:09:19 UTC


2017-07-17 01:09:19 UTC

As long as they're black and red.

2017-07-17 01:12:48 UTC

😢 I was hoping for rainbow armbands so everyone would know that we believe diversity is our strength

2017-07-17 01:13:11 UTC

you'll be burned to death wearing rainbow anything

2017-07-17 01:14:13 UTC


2017-07-17 01:15:13 UTC


2017-07-17 01:15:34 UTC

I'm willing to become a martyr for diversity . Prefer woodchipper, though.

2017-07-17 01:16:16 UTC

One will be prov*ded

2017-07-17 01:16:21 UTC


2017-07-17 04:25:46 UTC

I would recommend this sunscreen.

2017-07-18 00:25:35 UTC

I just dropped by my local surplus store the other day, partially to see if they had any deals on riot gear.

Half the uniform stuff was ROTHCO
The only gas masks they had were Israeli surplus

2017-07-18 00:39:30 UTC

You can get M40's for reasonable prices on ebay now I think.

2017-07-18 00:40:00 UTC

they are better than the m50 IMO since they can use NATO filters

2017-07-18 00:42:48 UTC

thats a really good deal

2017-07-18 00:45:58 UTC

I've seen new Swedish A4's for much cheaper, like $60 at most.

2017-07-18 00:47:05 UTC

In any event, even the cheapest ones that have a good seal will protect against tear gas.

2017-07-18 00:51:39 UTC

Do the swedish ones use NATO filters?

2017-07-18 00:57:05 UTC


2017-07-18 01:01:48 UTC

@Stanislav Đajić @Kurt no masks at this event

2017-07-18 01:02:32 UTC

I know, but I wasn't necessarily thinking about the event.

2017-07-18 01:04:02 UTC

This is a channel regarding gear for the event.

2017-07-18 01:04:04 UTC

Years down the road (or sooner, idk), mass demonstrations on our part may get CS'd, but I doubt this one would be.

2017-07-18 01:29:35 UTC

@Erika you don't wear a gas mask unless you are getting gassed. You kerep it in the pocket until needed. If we are getting gassed, getting arrested for the no mask law is the least of your problems.

2017-07-18 01:35:37 UTC

Flag pole sources? Ordered an IE flag, just need a pole so can use a C'ville.

2017-07-18 01:36:15 UTC

you can get 3/4 inch dowel rod from lowes

2017-07-18 01:46:43 UTC

theres some pretty cool ones an amazon

2017-07-18 04:21:31 UTC

@Kurt even if you're getting gassed, you don't put on a mask. You deal with it and move away from the area where the cops are trying to disperse people. If you choose to wear a mask, then you'll be getting gassed and also be getting arrested and being charged with a felony for violating the no mask laws. No masks at this event literally means no masks.

2017-07-18 04:21:51 UTC


2017-07-18 05:01:26 UTC

What kind of goggles are ideal?

2017-07-18 05:04:15 UTC

@GreatTarnNord probably no goggles.

2017-07-18 05:07:59 UTC

If police are popping tear gas or pepper bombs, that means they're trying to disperse a crowd, which means they've probably given everyone in the area fair warning to get the fuck out. In that case, you shouldn't be near the gas because you decided to evacuate the area. Goggles might also be considered a mask, so I wouldn't take the risk.

2017-07-18 05:33:06 UTC

I am more worried about our opposition, and their m80s in bottles and rocks.

2017-07-18 05:35:15 UTC

@GreatTarnNord You can get ballistic sunglasses, but a pair of ANSI safety glasses should stop glass and shit

2017-07-18 05:35:51 UTC

What do ballistic sunglasses go for?

2017-07-18 06:30:51 UTC

I found a better price from another vendor on Amazon.

2017-07-18 07:13:51 UTC

Those would work fine yeah

2017-07-18 07:13:58 UTC

Wiley X is a good brand

2017-07-18 09:17:11 UTC


2017-07-18 16:04:47 UTC

If CS makes you freak out you should harden up. It's an irritant. I did 5 minutes in a chamber with no mask.

If you can't hold your breath and leave you have other physical issues.

2017-07-18 16:10:35 UTC

Can confirm

2017-07-18 16:10:40 UTC

CS gas is easy

2017-07-18 16:10:58 UTC

Will also acknowledge that OC fucking sucks and is not nearly as sufferable

2017-07-18 16:12:34 UTC

Over all though at least a pair of sunglasses would do a lot for minimizing it IN you eyes and you can quickly decontaminate the surrounding areas before it runs into your eyes

2017-07-18 16:53:18 UTC

Yeah if you look at the news story about the KKK the opposition female said that 3 people were arrested and charged for covering up their face while being gassed.

2017-07-18 16:59:17 UTC

FWIW I felt like the gas mask demo in KY was pretty LARP-y, especially since only 3-4 people at most actually had them.

I agree with simply getting out of the way if we get gassed THIS TIME, but in the long term, we can't keep taking a completely deferential posture to the police and also gain ground politically.

2017-07-18 17:04:31 UTC

CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE is stupid when you're just an anonymous arrest statistic for a cause no one cares about, but when there are enough people watching, it can inspire your supporters and make the state appear to be losing its power.

2017-07-18 17:06:20 UTC

Think of 1000+ actual white nationalists marching in DC, getting confronted by a bigger crowd of antifa and nonwhites, getting gassed cuz anarcho-tyranny, putting on masks and wading into the enemy.

2017-07-18 18:44:36 UTC

Backpacks and helmets just in case, being inside of the backpacks accepted or no?

2017-07-18 18:57:57 UTC

You can get a bump cap insert for a ball cap for like $5. I think if we were to show up with helmets it'd be like we're inviting antifa to attack us and would ruin the "peacefully assembling" look. Cops are going to be separating us anyway right?


2017-07-18 19:01:06 UTC
2017-07-18 19:41:49 UTC

Thats goofy

2017-07-18 19:57:06 UTC

It works like a hard hat, just concealable underneath your cap.

2017-07-18 20:33:19 UTC

Does not meet ANSI/ISEA Z89.1 requirements

2017-07-18 20:33:27 UTC

For what pvrpose

2017-07-18 20:34:03 UTC

Its a flexible piece of plastic that doesnt negate impacts

2017-07-18 20:34:35 UTC

Its to stop you from bumping your head in crawlspaces and shit, not to stop a brick

2017-07-18 20:59:35 UTC


2017-07-18 20:59:50 UTC

@Hand Banana What do you think about this as an option?

2017-07-18 21:13:59 UTC


2017-07-18 21:15:10 UTC

I have this shirt and another with just the symbol. Too in your face? I don't think so....innocuous to me but I don't don't want to get stoned.

2017-07-18 23:02:48 UTC


2017-07-18 23:02:53 UTC

That's way less in-your-face than their original logo. ^^^^^

2017-07-18 23:04:24 UTC

It will definitely get attention.

2017-07-18 23:14:20 UTC

We want to attract good normies to our movement, right? When the media shows up and gets spergy looks and behavior on camera, then it sets us back on that goal considerably. Just use your best judgement.

2017-07-18 23:25:07 UTC

Literally the ADL wrote an article about vanguard being militant neo Nazis and attending pikeville with NSM/NF

2017-07-18 23:25:33 UTC

Soooo... we're already associated with NSM 🤷🏻‍♂️

2017-07-18 23:58:06 UTC

ITs a unite the right rally dude

2017-07-18 23:58:19 UTC

Love the shirt, had a lot of fun with y'all in Pikeville

2017-07-19 00:04:05 UTC

Exactly ^ 👌🏻

2017-07-19 00:09:52 UTC

Same, bought one of NSM's Rockwell shirts

2017-07-19 00:10:03 UTC


2017-07-19 01:12:58 UTC

I thought we were going for a more professional look, like shirt with a collar

2017-07-19 01:20:26 UTC

Everyone should be wearing HUWITE POLO! imo

2017-07-19 01:22:06 UTC

but i just got my full SS uniform laundered

2017-07-19 01:22:13 UTC

it has collar

2017-07-19 01:23:13 UTC

^^^ cool points given for supreme awesomeness!!

2017-07-19 01:25:56 UTC

nah i'll be wearing khakis and button up

2017-07-19 01:37:15 UTC

Literally a swastika shirt

2017-07-19 01:37:30 UTC

If I cant bring a gun, expect my own outfitt

2017-07-19 01:40:02 UTC

just conceal carry

2017-07-19 01:40:32 UTC

Riot helmets with clear face shields are legal btw

2017-07-20 18:56:30 UTC

I'm going to buy a pair of boots for this event, preferably a pair that works for both this event and for the winter in Chicago. Any suggestions?

2017-07-20 19:22:01 UTC
2017-07-20 19:33:40 UTC


2017-07-20 20:14:54 UTC

@AltRightMick I like bates durashocks

2017-07-20 20:49:56 UTC

The bates look really good but $150 more than the other suggestions. What am I getting with a $15 pair of boots? Lol

2017-07-20 20:50:56 UTC

@AltRightMick likely a painful experience

2017-07-20 21:21:50 UTC

Theres a few things you should always invest in

2017-07-20 21:22:07 UTC

Things you have to walk in, things you have to defend yourself with, and things you have to sleep in

2017-07-20 21:22:26 UTC

Just for events these should work.

2017-07-20 21:22:32 UTC

I've had a pair of bates last over 8 years with good care

2017-07-20 21:23:10 UTC

I like danners

2017-07-20 21:24:26 UTC

I have two pairs like that.

2017-07-20 21:24:37 UTC

Goes well with kakhis and polos

2017-07-20 21:26:26 UTC

I'm gonna be in the shield wall so I'm gonna rock steel toe.

2017-07-20 21:28:30 UTC

I don't like steel toes personally, most of the time they will hurt you worse than if you wore normal boots.

2017-07-20 21:29:47 UTC

@Kurt they'll work to get these commies to step back.

2017-07-20 21:31:05 UTC

Kinda hard to catch a shin shattering on camera. Most video will be waist up

2017-07-20 21:31:31 UTC

thats what your shield is for tho

2017-07-20 21:31:49 UTC

much more effective than kicking

2017-07-20 21:31:51 UTC

The boots are extra credit

2017-07-20 21:32:24 UTC

So let me ask the most important question. Since you have the boot thing figured out.

2017-07-20 21:32:35 UTC

What is your hydration plan?

2017-07-20 21:33:35 UTC

Haven't really considered a hydration plan. I'll surely bring plenty of fluids that day.

2017-07-20 21:34:16 UTC

heat is our biggest threat, not antifa. Get a camelback

2017-07-20 21:35:22 UTC

I'll definitely consider that. I figured maybe the people behind the lines would take care of that.

2017-07-20 21:35:41 UTC

Best to be self prepared.

2017-07-20 21:37:41 UTC

I am working out the plan for it.

2017-07-20 21:38:57 UTC

But the more people come prepared, the less water I will have to haul in and out.

2017-07-20 21:45:55 UTC

I like the camel back idea about. Would like my dependence on others.

2017-07-20 21:46:36 UTC

I've also been looking at baseball helmets. I don't want to end up like the u lock guy.

2017-07-20 21:47:12 UTC

* limit

2017-07-20 21:47:16 UTC

Buy an old steel helmet for like $25 online and buy some of the new style pads for $8

2017-07-20 21:47:21 UTC

I think the medic support will bring water but if you are on the shield wall it might be hard to get to it. Camalbacks are a lifesaver!!

2017-07-20 21:48:02 UTC

Speaking of steel helmets, does anyone know of a protective insert one could put in a hat?

2017-07-20 21:48:11 UTC


2017-07-20 21:48:14 UTC


2017-07-20 21:48:22 UTC

I'm not trying to rock an SS style helmet. Wouldn't pay the right image

2017-07-20 21:48:56 UTC

That looks sharp

2017-07-20 21:57:06 UTC

you can get a PASGT for like $50 too

2017-07-20 22:08:34 UTC

Thats a US helmet from Vietnam

2017-07-20 22:09:05 UTC

M w/e

2017-07-20 22:39:03 UTC

I'm bringing 3 plexiglass police shields. These are the same ones in police/army surplus catalogs for $150. You can cut the middleman and order them direct from China for $75 postage paid. Mine came really fast, so you could probably still get one in time if you order now. http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/wAcAAOSw241YbeQu/s-l500.jpg

2017-07-21 00:02:42 UTC

Ok goys – help me and make sure I get this one right.
I am trying to show some agency and look up knife laws to see if we are good to carry this with us.
Two Sources : http://www.knifeup.com/virginia-knife-laws/
I am pretty sure this is a PUSH DAGGER

It says it is legal to own
And does NOT say it is ILLEGAL to Carry

Highly recommend we all have this on our belt loop. I carry mine around almost everywhere


2017-07-21 00:25:09 UTC

What are you going to do with that

2017-07-21 00:25:18 UTC

A knife is a tool to get to a gun

2017-07-21 00:25:33 UTC

If you're going to carry a knife you may as well carry a gun

2017-07-21 00:27:09 UTC

Listen here, asshole

2017-07-21 00:27:29 UTC

Quit running you mouth off, spewing your shit

2017-07-21 00:27:47 UTC

You fucking fucker

2017-07-21 00:28:29 UTC

This isn't the Jonesposting channel @I'm Not Sam Hyde

2017-07-21 00:30:33 UTC

haha Well - for one at home - I carry that knife when I am drinking and cant carry my gun. Which is most of the time. Second, I was playing nice and listening to all of the leadership and going to leave my gun at home. Lastly, if I get hit, I will most defintely be wearing that on my fist when I return my next punch.

2017-07-21 00:32:30 UTC

But lets be serious, there is less than a 1 percent chance I get hit, so its highly unlikely it will be necessary

2017-07-21 00:34:00 UTC

Escalating from fisticuffs to a knife is a bad plan

2017-07-21 00:35:24 UTC

I hear you bro - but it poses the question - why would anyone use a lethal weapon. Its used when it is necessary

2017-07-21 00:42:17 UTC

Would someone be willing to put together a quick list of what every goy should (or recommended to) have on them/bring with them to the rally and a quick list of what not to bring ie masks, contacts without proper eye protection etc.

2017-07-21 01:08:20 UTC

Escelating to knife play when someone punches you is a bad call

2017-07-21 01:09:07 UTC

Unless they're a lot bigger

2017-07-21 01:09:28 UTC

Or in a group and you're isolated of course

2017-07-21 01:09:45 UTC

Unless you are isolated you'll have some big goy to back you up

2017-07-21 01:09:54 UTC

If you get jumped sure stab away

2017-07-21 01:10:08 UTC

I'm not trusting my safety to anyone but myself

2017-07-21 01:10:17 UTC

That's a bad move.

2017-07-21 01:10:31 UTC

"Hello internet strangers! Please protect me"

2017-07-21 01:10:33 UTC

But dont get stab happy. It doesnt benefit our cause. It makes us look weak as well as criminal to be the ones escelating to lethal force first

2017-07-21 01:10:36 UTC

Fisticuffs -> Jonesposting -> bullwhips -> guns -> knife

2017-07-21 01:10:44 UTC

In that order

2017-07-21 01:10:52 UTC


2017-07-21 01:11:56 UTC

haha - I am with yall - I merely asked the question to get an extra set of eyes on the legallity of my edc

2017-07-21 01:12:35 UTC

If your immediate response to a physical blow from a single individual is to stab someone it would benefit everyone for that individual not to come.

2017-07-21 01:12:49 UTC

I hear ya anthony. It was a misunderstanding then.

2017-07-21 01:13:19 UTC


2017-07-21 01:14:08 UTC

@Furor_Tuetonicus I agree with you're overly exaggerated circumstantial statement

2017-07-21 01:14:48 UTC

Except that the way it was phrased it seems that is exactly what someone was suggesting until he clarified

2017-07-21 01:15:08 UTC

Why would you assume the most extreme circumstance..?

2017-07-21 01:15:13 UTC


2017-07-21 01:15:21 UTC

Your also implying there arent larpers who legitimately do think stabbing is a valid response to getting hit

2017-07-21 01:15:31 UTC

Put the popcorn away its two men having a conversation

2017-07-21 01:15:39 UTC

Well I guess they're not larpers if they actually do it huh?

2017-07-21 01:15:52 UTC

So which is it

2017-07-21 01:16:00 UTC

haha anytime you have a gun on your hip - you are larping - until you are not

2017-07-21 01:16:06 UTC

No. I am saying they are larpers for thinking its a good idea. If they acrually do it they would just be idiots

2017-07-21 01:16:32 UTC

Who here claimed they would stab someone?

2017-07-21 01:16:47 UTC

Having a gun isnt larping. Saying you will shoot the first man who punches you is either larping or an idiot

2017-07-21 01:16:47 UTC

No one said "I'll fucking stab them if I'm hit!"

2017-07-21 01:16:53 UTC

Same for for other forms of lethal force

2017-07-21 01:16:57 UTC

Who said that though..?

2017-07-21 01:17:03 UTC

Or did YOU fabricate that?

2017-07-21 01:17:09 UTC

Well americana since you spend your time being smarmy instead of reading ill grab it

2017-07-21 01:17:17 UTC

One second you are about to look stupid

2017-07-21 01:17:19 UTC

Hold the record - I said - I would use it if its needed

2017-07-21 01:17:29 UTC


2017-07-21 01:17:33 UTC

the same way I would use a gun - only when necessary

2017-07-21 01:17:35 UTC


2017-07-21 01:17:51 UTC

the question was asking about legality

2017-07-21 01:17:57 UTC

"If I get hit my return hit will have the knife in my hand"

2017-07-21 01:18:18 UTC

Yes i know Anthony I understand your clarification

2017-07-21 01:18:31 UTC

10-4 we are good

2017-07-21 01:18:34 UTC

But since americana wants to be a smart ass

2017-07-21 01:18:37 UTC

There it is

2017-07-21 01:18:47 UTC

haha its all good

2017-07-21 01:19:21 UTC

But lets not be niave - they will have weapons - will they engage with us - probably not

2017-07-21 01:19:22 UTC

Every time someone suggests defending themselves people seem to assume it's the same thing as wanting to commit acts of violence

2017-07-21 01:19:30 UTC

It's annoying

2017-07-21 01:19:39 UTC

Especially when it's within legality

2017-07-21 01:19:52 UTC

That isnt whst the conversation is about and you know it

2017-07-21 01:20:09 UTC

I make this point time and time again...

2017-07-21 01:20:10 UTC

Stabbing someone who punches you is within debatable legaility and is not the smart move

2017-07-21 01:20:16 UTC

I dont care

2017-07-21 01:20:31 UTC

I agree

2017-07-21 01:20:52 UTC

I agree with you. However I'm not going to police someone on how they should defend their life in this situation

2017-07-21 01:21:06 UTC

Do not bring: regular cell phone (if you do, make sure you have a good lock on it), weapons you're inexperienced with using in a fight in a crowded area, flip flops/sandals, masks, contact lenses, illegal substances.

Do bring: water, tourniquet if you have one, a camera that you don't mind being damaged or stolen, good boots/shoes, baby shampoo, shields if you have them, a helmet, banners/flags, a good flag pole, a way to contact the group you came with, sunglasses, knowledge of local laws & exfil plans, etc...

I think Eli will be posting a comprehensive list soon.

2017-07-21 01:21:11 UTC

I will when it is something that would make a horrible media scene on all fronts

2017-07-21 01:21:52 UTC

I'll tell you how to defend yourself: if somebody punches you, do not stab them. You will go to jail.

2017-07-21 01:22:08 UTC

I should add, if an average person punches you.

2017-07-21 01:22:11 UTC

That's fun and good until someone from our side dies

2017-07-21 01:22:12 UTC

If someone cannot defend themselves against non lethal force without immediately jumping to lethal force then that person is not a good person to be at the rally

2017-07-21 01:22:16 UTC

If someone like Mike Tyson punches you, feel free.

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