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imagine debating vanguardism
please read communistic manifesto
ok i had 2 glasses of wine
what about them
time to whine
Communist manifesto is only really relevant for 1848 revs
Das Kapital is so much better
> State socialism maybe but the majority of left western socialists are for decentralized worker owned industry
You're just going to force your opinions on someone else or crush them with force? @Brandon
we need to sieze the means of production
Maos little red book
please read Capitalism by Carlos Marksimus Aurelius
No, I was explaining why Logos statement that socialism is inherently planned economies is false
@Benneu in capitallism when you consolidate enough money, you can crush others and assert your will. difference in democracy you get consent before
in capitalism you only have to collect power
Why are you getting uppity lul
you just compared capitalism with democracy
Democracy is the tyranny of the uneducated
it is the nature of power
Democracy isn't effective
We're a repiblic
For that reason
DEMOCRACY IS FALSE GOD EMBRASE TSARISM
every god is false
@Benneu NO thats really really dumb to say. those are not antitehtical. republic implies representatives, guess what we do to get those reps?
we elect tehm
are we democratic republic?
And within the society its the least intelligent driving it
But it's not pure democracy
We elect representatives
guts a bottle of wine is like nothing
I always like how people say we arent a democracy we are a republic like they are really saying something. No we are a representative democracy, we vote for leaders who we feel represent our interests and they work for our respected interests.
you said werent a democracyh
i finished one in 3 mmintues flat
this is evidently not true
we arent direct democracy because of the size
not because of whatever dumbfuck
Electing leaders is what a republic is
Pure democracy is warband model of demicracy
Women doesn allowed to have political rights
The USA has become more and more democratic over time
Claiming the US isn't a democracy is false
look i could go into the actual reason i prefer socialism over capitalism
a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch. @Arc
the us isnt a democracy
its a republic
this is wrong
you need to define the apparatus of democracy, in what fields do you use it
republic and democracy arent antithetical
republic is a form of praxis
Its a republic
We use democratic principles but it is not PURE democracy specifically because pure democracy leads to terrible things
Democratically electing representatives and the unilateral leader of a nation is democracy
Republic is not democracy but both use the premises of majority makes right
Republic=democracy lul its same defenition
The president is not elected by the popular vote
still not a democracy
Republic is not a democracy, Plato would roll
democracy sucks anyway
I don't know why you guys thing democracy and republicanism are mutually exclusive.
A republic is not a democracy
we need a communism
Popular vote isn't the end all be all metric that defines a democracy.
Democracy will inevitably lead to communism
> Republic is not a democracy, Plato would roll
Ochlocracy still better than democracy pleb
i want a theocracy
@Benneu senate is , house is, local governemnt is, everyone is allowed to vote by law, we extended citizenship through nationalization, so we have become one so this means that ec needs to go
democracy has inconsistent nature, it won't lead to any exact ideology
Tsar and theocracy
all other systems are bs
@Arc We should go the other way and start moving away from democracy not embrace it further
when the right wingers think republic is antitehtical to democracy <:eloLul:449274416376053760>
"awww, do you have an opinion, go ahead and voice it!"
what liberalist drivel.
you can't sustain your dream mutualistic paradise through democracy
that is a joke
It exactly same shit
The American democratic system of electing representatives functionally is a great system, and extremely democratic compared to a lot of other nations in the world.
Republic and democracy are separate by category determined by operation of elected people.
People choose party and then elected people on voted
Democracy: people do not choose party but vote for things
When the left wingers think a republic is a democracy
> The American democratic system of electing representatives functionally is a great system, and extremely democratic compared to a lot of other nations in the world.
@Brandon LMAO are you joking?
Nope. Not joking.
its election methods are so retarded
Anal sex is still sex
that was really really bad point
anal sex is degenerate
he knows whats up
he's a man of the world
No. Its a separate operation
anarcho you ever hear the quote the stars that burn the brightest burn the quickest?
you axiomatically assert this
You literally just changed it do representstive democracy
I have with using two different words
You had to adjust your definition
To match what a republic is
> Republic and democracy are separate by category determined by operation of elected people.
> People choose party and then elected people on voted
> Democracy: people do not choose party but vote for things
>Plurality voting in electoral systems
>Proportional representation in electoral systems
>Democracy: people do not choose party but vote for things
Are u kidding?
Look at eastern nations. Look at african nations. Compare them to our representative democratic system.
Democracy is similar in that it quickly increases the life of the average person but at the cost of the entire future of the civilization
Democracy-republic exactly plebs
I dont, democracy as we are using is the citizens elect policy/representatives
you're arguing over a definiton of a term that is elastic LOL
keep arguing something that is incredibly pointless
Lets name a few
inb4 is ought fallacy
Hes the same type of person to say the Nazis werent socialists
And get specific
inb4 appeal to nature fallacy
nazi's are not socialist
to copulate with a woman
capitalism = degeneracy
@Crazynomad sex means to insert yourself into someone for use of orgaasm, anal mean in regards to anaus
> capitalism = degeneracy
@IStoleTheJohn this is a message i can get behind
anal sex is sex
anal sex is gay and/or degenerate
capitialism is degenerate
lmao northern america is a flawed democracy
kinda defiton is that
you just destroyed your own point
Wait what's Greenland tho
ah yes I love data made by an extremely western centric and biased organization with ulterior motives
I wouldnt expect an ancap to recoginize fallacies doe
Amurika fuck yeaah
I never said it was a fully democratic system. I said specifically it functions great, especially compared to other nations ie eastern hemisphere, middle east, africa
Democracy and shiiit
And slavic countries
anal sex is objectively lame
Well i am from slavic country
stop spreading the virus
corona spreads from spurthole
STOP anal sex immediately
> I never said it was a fully democratic system. I said specifically it functions great, especially compared to other nations ie eastern hemisphere, middle east, africa
@Brandon but democracy sucks
and even then, america sucks at democracy, Britain and many other european and western democracies are much more efficient than America.
capitalism is degenerate
peeing hits different after a cum
Also a fully democratic system is utopian can you point to one system in history that was 100% fully democratic
> capitalism is degenerate
Are we talking about what defines sex wtf why
is the highest
on the chart
Sex is union between men and women (femoid). Everything else is sin, degenarecy and perverted shit
Zulu tribes 600 AD
you cropped it
> Sex is union between men and women (femoid). Everything else is sin, degenarecy and perverted shit
Proof me wrong plebs
I posted the whole thing
to stop being mutualist
Anarcho capitalism is the purest form of an ideology that makes no fucking sense.
Sure, America is still in the top percentile of democracy though. Because every citizen has the right to vote for representatives.
Don't fix what aint broken.
@Brandon but it still sucks at what it's meant to represent.
anarcho communism makes more sense