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i skipped out on the solo movie
and all the other star wars stuff from the last several years
Same
Probably won't go see TROS
I did see Force Awakens and Last Jedi
Rogue One was actually decent
that's what i heard
Kathleen Kennedy was removed tho
Hoping a new, better, not feminist comes in for the next trilogy
i liked solo
there's going to be another trilogy?
a goy made it
dude from happy days
ron.....
howard
lucas contemperary
guys
what if you find a trad woman
who is faithful and wants to have many of your children
but she's super ugly
yay or nay?
๐๐ป
if you can't get it up, you won't be able to have any children
unless you'll go for artificial insemination
saying that, I'd say maybe to the super ugly chick
maybe she'll grow on me
if you are based and you have a baby with some random thot, will the baby be half trad?
do more leftists play mmo's?
feels like I always run into someone complaining about implicit bias against women or something in the workforce, or whatever topic similar to that.
@Chaos I'm not trying to shame the alt-right into going with the pack. I'm just saying its a bit hypocritical if the alt-right only points to others to call people degenerate. Of course I don't have exact information about how most alt-right people live their lives but from the people I've spoken to I get the impression that a lot of them would be degenerates by their own standards.
They talk about nofap but they coom anyways. They say porn is bad but they watch it. They talk about securing a future for white children but they are incels. They claim to be aware of the gravity of the situation but they just take a black pill and zone out.
I mean whats more degenerate. A bluepilled coomer who thinks his lifestyle is ok, or a redpilled coomer who thinks his lifestyle is shit but is too far gone to change it?
identifying the issues doesnt make them go away
@Boniface Don't conflate the Alt right with the Groyper subsection of it that emerged into prominence 4 months ago. The alt right has White nationalists, groypers, libertarians, pro-empire, Christian, Pagan, etc. The thing that is consistent is the understanding of race
and aspirations are better than nothing
That being said, we are a generation of people raised in an environment profoundly different from our ideals. We have all been scarred by society. Telling guys to just be virgins until marriage, don't watch porn, etc is frankly absurd. Even if I believed in that stuff, we live in a time where the family, marriage, and women are utterly in shatters. For most people, that type of restrictionism would have heavy costs and not nearly the benefits it once did in a traditional culture
(Which is why we need to at some point seize power and pass laws that realign the incentizes and disincentives for those behaviours)
What is the cost of not watching porn lol
the wages of COOOM
lol
@Boniface Blaming the kids today for acting hypocritical is unfair as fuck.
As someone who grow up having to walk to the tv to switch channels I can attest they have it magnitudes of orders harder.
(which is btw a good reason to shun half-retarded figures like Styx, who aren't able to see that difference)
I don't really buy it. Its like if a group of alcoholics said we need to ban alcohol because these days its too hard not to be alcoholic. Don't put your own degeneracy on others.
Just don't be a bitch and stop drinking.
I think its kind of dysgenic to make society safe for all the weak willed people out there. Do your genes not encode the information for a spine?
As someone who grew up having to walk to the tv to switch channels I can attest I could not have imagined the vast plethora of options the kids of today have. As for ease of access of those opportunities, it has only become easier and easier for kids of today to access these opportunities; Internet. Many more individuals can be paid for things like speaking softly into a microphone than has ever been possible. Manual labour has been declining for decades. If it is so damn hard for kids these days, how come they have time for flitting across the oceans on million dollar yachts so they can admonish us for our perceived historical wrongdoings?
I hope their degeneracy facilitates the removal of their lineages from our genepools.
I think technology is a bit of a double edged sword for trad movements. While it is easier to get exposed to degenerate stuff I think its also easier to spread trad stuff without the need for government to do it for you. At this point I don't even think the population would go along with it if change happened only in the government. One way or another if the alt-right is going to succeed it is probably going to have to win the hearts of the people. But if alt-righters themselves don't even follow their own principles how do you expect others to follow them.
winning the hearts of the people, in an ageing society, where humans' natural tendancy is towards right wing worldviews. We only have to stop mass immigration.
Here's the thing about not wanting to marry an "ugly" woman: how are we defining ugly? Appearance can reveal much about one's genetics. Therefore, judging by appearance (considering what artificial factors a woman may employ to hide physical flaws) is not against anything one arguing for racial and genetic stands for morally or politically. To say that the "alt-right" has to support/judge mates based on beliefs first than anything more substantial is making the same flaws as Michael E Jones who says anyone who adopts Catholicism is "European"--it is the flaw of believing that beliefs is the primary concern and not the influence of genetics on behavior and what personality/character one possesses regardless of testified faith/conviction.
In other words, if a lib shit girl of majority anglo-germanic ancestry with a good genetic makeup gives birth to a child from a traditional man also of majority anglo-germanic ancestry, the child will under rearing adopt a "trad" mindset supported by their natural inclinations particular to those of majority anglo-germanic ancestry and how that genetic pool is expressed in how that child thinks and behaves as they mature. Further information can be found from Dr. Edward Dutton's works, books, and videos about judging people by their appearance.
science has ALWAYS been a double edged sword
It's really up to society to decide whether or not they're ready to handle the risk associated with each new advancement
No need for analogies; science is a tool.
Beauty and the human perspective; A-symmetry most highly correlates with statements of ugliness. If A-symmetry is a symptom of high mutational load this would make sense of the evolutionary selection for beauty.
it's just prediction/ survivability maximisation.
but the analogy works nonetheless
I refute *utilitarianism* on the basis that humans do not seek to "maximise pleasure". Endorphin release is a mechanism which facilitates optimal learning. Humans survive, and increase their survivability not by attempting to maximise pleasure, but by attempting to maximise their predictive capability... humans are, after all, expert pattern recognition systems.
@Wan6Saber yes it works. It is still superfluous, that was my actual point.
Yeah but still
anway
I think different humans use different strategies to increase survivability and its not always predictive capability
can you give an example of a non-predictive survival strategy?
only, it's possible I'm hung up on this one dimension of humans at the mo, and can't see further than my nose.
I guess its a matter of definition. I think humans strive for a balance between predictability and novelty
If you stay at home things can be very predictable, but it might not be as productive as going in the wilderness and bringing back food
lol. I don't think many humans strive for any kind of balance.
high productivity= high predictability, how is this not so?
we strive for plenty of balance. Getting enough sleep but not too much, eating enough food but not too much
because there are high rewards for exploring the unknown
have you seen *humans* lately? they look as balanced as weebles.
Weebles wobble but they won't fall down
I think most of human psychology has roots that date far before modern times.
I agree
So I don't think saying like. "dude x in modern times has a problem, therefore being like dude x is ideal"
if anything, dude x having a problem is a sign he's not living an optimal lifestyle
he's off balance
he's out of his element
his body is seeking a balance that it is not recieving
in other words, someone being out of balance and suffering for it is not proof that we don't need balance
I might suggest that *imbalance* has been increasing since the Industrial Revolution; prior to this point imbalanced individuals would likely not have succeeded in passing on their genes.
yeah, and this causes a malaise because as balance seeking animals not finding out balance is causing us problems
but we clearly aren't seeking balance.
otherwise the trend would be in the opposite direction.
Balance is not innate, all forms of life are maximisers.
our balance seeking mechanisms have likely been functioning for millions of years, its not adapted to the radical changes that have been happening in the last centuries.
life does not seek balance, it exploits every niche it can, why would humans be exceptional?
because that statement is false?
it is?
ok, we'll take one factor
try to survive without seeking balance of temperature
we'll maximise temperature, get it hotter and hotter, see how well you survive lol
I could take off my clothes? jump in a pool?
wait
some humans actually live in deserts.
why take your clothes off
why jump in a pool
sounds like you want
a balance?
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not too hot
not too cold
only because that balance maximises my predictive capability ๐
no, it stops you from dying directly
I am concluding that balance is often a way to maximise predictability
its a bit silly to be like "why don't you want to get shot in the head" "because muh predictive capability"
people have survived being shot in the head though
there are odds involved
If I don't strike a balance between putting my face in front of a loaded gun and not doing so, if I favour *never* putting my face in front of a loaded gun I maximise the odds of not getting shot in the face.
Alright, look at it this way
Lets say you can maximise your odds of not getting shot in the face by not leaving your house.
You are paying a price for that level of safety.
yes, food delivery
sorry, I may be too baked for this debate now....
You have a lot to gain by leaving the house but you face risks from getting shot, getting in a car accident, getting sick, etc
alright lol
can prolly vc for a bit
fk it I'm watching sc2 videos
trying to get out of silver league bruh
I don't even know what that means
>.<
starcraft 2
silver league means I suck
'member starcraft?
I 'member starcraft
*nostalgic swoon*
DAS RITE
Remember space marines rooting out heresy? I member
'member BJ Blazkowicz fucking up mecha-Hitler? I 'member
With regards to the last show with Patrick Wood on "sustainable development / agenda 21 / 2030" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPkTq8HlGPs
open this:
https://fabians.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/FABJ5403_Sustainability_goals_240417_WEB.pdf
and search "agenda 2030"
Fabian society publishing in advocacy of UN sustainable development...
This should demonstrate the trope of "1984 is supposed to be a warning, not a manual" to be precisely false....
thanks friend ๐ @RiskyMcdanger
yw fam
the connections maaaan
the connections
@zombitch always on that blah blah.
at least it's not libtard blah blah
I'm genuinely surprised, and shocked, that so few people including papa JF are/were unaware of the danger that Technocracy poses.
I'm opposed to 5G technology, in part because of the largely unknown effect of phased radar array technology on biological organisms, but more importantly because it is a necessary technology to tighten the technocratic grip.
Technocracy is the manifesto of Globalists. Apple/Google/Amazon are all technocratic corporations, Siri/Alexa are the first step in remotely controlling private property.
hopefully alt-tech can develop fast enough to offer a viable alternative
Alt-tech? you mean like VPNs and the like?
VPNs are worthless
any tech that puts power in people's hands without being reliant on big tech monopolies
rootkits?
cryptocurrency, open source software, 3d printing, lots of stuff
if 3d printing gets advanced enough it could dramatically reduce the dependance on the normal tech structure
the key is not so much to have advanced products but the hope is t hat the knowledge to make these things will become more widely available
there are already regular people using advanced AI technology
usually for fun
but if shit hits the fan, as bad as AI is, there's a chance that regular people will be able to wield the technology for better or for worse
instead of relying on some mainstream AI that tries to dominate you
you can have your own AI designed by you
or designed by someone you trust
I prefer to rely on my own brain
I suspect the technocratic elite wants us to offload portions of our cognitive abilities into technology
so the cripple in the nutshell was still a oppressor ...
My friend has told me split evolution has been disproven. Debate on split evolution and common evolution?
what do these terms mean
what is 'split' or 'common' evolution
like, different human populations have been evolving differently?
So common evolution is when we, humans are one species who evolved differently since there are different climates present.
Split evolution is that there were different human species in contrast to common evolution
oh okay, I don't know the answer then, the last I heard the issue was still contentious
Okay cheers.
the term species is arbitrary there is no clear cut biological definition of species
does anyone know where you can find good data breakdowns on welfare recipients in the US
an actual dot.gov website might have some info. something related to bureau of labor statistics? @Fully Buckminstered
Tell me Islam isn't based
inshallah
are you muslim?
maybe eventually
why 2% liberty?
are you aiming for something like, north korean style?
political tests are dumb
meh, if it can lead to some fun banter I don't mind
But yeah, nonexistant liberty, forced allocation, it sounds like a kind of system where the population is enslaved by the state and made to work for the ruling family so they can live in a big palace while the population struggles and goes in a concentration camp if they resist. lol
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sounds dystopian to me
I used to be much more open to the idea of collectivism, until I started working in an asian restaurant with a strong collectivist ethic and I started seeing the seams pretty quickly.
What at first glanced seemed like a lack of individualism still had individualism in it, it was just concentrated.
Everyone in the group was in theory working towards a common goal, the good of the group.
But the person at the top of the group got to decide what is good for the group.
And all you have to do is have that person corrupted and the whole thing rots.
Get them addicted to gambling or something and have the whole group feed that addiction "for the good of the group" and you have a fucking shitshow on your hands.
I understand someone not wanting complete liberty but complete collectivism just seems so easy to subvert you just need to corrupt the person at the top the whole thing rots.
Yeah itโs called balance
You donโt want the top to be too too heavy
You want the bottom to be able to hold them to account
Thatโs why a group needs a common ethic and goal
Loyalty is good but not submitting yourself as a slave to someoneโs whims
Hello, i would like to see a show, going trough UN and EU- documents. Showing the importing of Migrants as a 'deliberate policy to offset aging population'. UN seems very blatant about it. EU is more sublte and vague about it, perhaps not in the least because the EU blocks lacks argeement on the subject between its member states, especially east v.s. western europe. And overall failure to deal with mass migration. Although in one document i see they just assumed mass migration would continue at the same pace it has been in the recent years.
well, the UN has it's replacement migration webpages. can you link to anything from the EU?
Yes i seen the replacement migration page
I send you what i found about the EU
Nick Griffin ?
https://youtu.be/X3-_KZExlJ0 Why did Swedes let the feminists ruin the country so much
pussy is too powerful
no one can refuse
Do we still have the tech and means necessary to produce more + R&D?
more what?
whites have the tech for oil and production of anything
starting up factories and chains takes time though
10+ years
critical stuff like military stuff we already can switch quicker to
or is already in operation at a smaller scale
here you go
she is a pro-fapper
I spoke to her, she says she is not opposed to being invited on a show (though I didn't say which)
she has her own little channel with surprisingly large guests
so if any of the show enablers want to invite this lady to talk about no fap and why it's bad, there you go
full disclosure she is an AIU fan
Question: Out of curiosity, could someone explain to me the dislike for this sort of compact living that I hear often from the alt-right? I don't see where it comes from or where it fits in the big picture.
I often see the alt-right mocking individualism and such, so like if being an individual and wanting nice things for yourself is bad then wouldn't it serve the collective better if people lived in places like this?
If the goal is the good of the collective then why are these things seen as bad?
Maybe its unpleasant for the individual but I don't think "feeling good" is the goal of the alt-right.
"feeling good" seems to be labeled as subversive.
I'm ok with it, but for a family you need a real house / farm setup
these cabins are nice to put the parents in though
when they get needy etc
so you can still keep them around
It's not conducive to family living
I think some people feel this kind of stuff is being pushed on them.
it's promoted by NWO neo liberal types, who want to thrust a lower standard of living on westerners
because they'd like to redistribute global wealth and open borders
there's been a massive propaganda campaign aimed at millennials and younger, starting from the '08 recession, to accept declining standards. in the name of: environmentalism, sustainability, inclusivity, equality, etc.
Tiny houses are so uWu anon!
Don't you want one too?
And don't you want a tiny cellphone where you control nothing but do all your electronic stuff? Not one one of those big ole kludgy computers where you can fully control everything
non homeowners, including people that live in tiny boxes are also more dependent on outside help/services (corporations) - including gov't - for their needs
it increases dependency on the outside
Yeah, if you could live in that on your own land and be self sufficient its not bad
yeah, and im sure there are people that would opt for that
in fact, i know there is
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