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@Hector I'm just criticizing Fuentes doesn't mean I have the solution
haha
there is only 1 religion that secures racial right too existence and lands
nick himself is less than 90% white
Viewing religion as a tool is the wrong way of thinking about it
@Eternal Entropy And that is cosmotheism
nah
Yes
and religion is gods tool
Bro
catholicism is an impediment
Catholicism is the truth
cosmotheism is ancient history literally
Catholic nations are low IQ & corrupt
Yes
that was 3 prophetic cycles ago
no k word
@blanc Not quite
k word bad
Lmao. If you don't have solution for our problems yet criticize some of mine, you're useless
@blanc wanna have an Orthodox v Catholic civil talk? :^)
Your problems are my solution
America becomes too brown to function
I follow the western patriarchy, the bishop of rome
NATO collapses
@21ooAB false
Europe is free
my solution is yo momma
the point is
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If your solution is bad it is bad whether there is an alternative or not
don't waste your time on things that have failed
@blanc so how come Peter was the Bishop of Antioch?
@Hector I told you I don't have the solutions, secession is probably the most practical option, I'm just criticizing Fuentes that's all
Huh? Source
Peter is even buried in the vatican
don't steer people toward dead ends
Catholicism is not a tool
how do you not know this
Its a belief
lol
religion is absolutely a tool
I don't view paganism as a means to control society
doesn't make it bad
@Panikooooos in the US, you need 2/3 majority to succeed. Thatโs not even feasible in the US since itโs 60% white. Thereโs no ethnostate solution within 50 years.
it is
BASED
It has factually been used as a tool by the pope for great evil
@21ooAB all religions are means to control society
@blanc Would you like to chat later?
that's why they have rules and behavioural expectations
In an hour or so.
Sargon's on the verge of raising another man's child
what if the child consents tho
If religion wasn't a tool it would never break open the doorway of your soul to percieve it
Get 10-25 states
Contribute 2% of their budget to military each
it would never change the world with the tool of it's laws
Apparently the Antioch thing is disputed
Also
Transfer National Guard equipment to SDFs
it was literally founded by Peter lmao
It is recognized by all he died in rome
And?
religion is a tool or it's naught but a joke
And when America invades a foreign country
Strike
And there is a Catholic Antioch Patriarch too
do you want to do this in VC? I'm happy to have a chat about this
Very old
I have class sorry
well, in that case let me raise your attention to something
I can if you wish
just ask we all stay civil
in the council of Jerusalem, Peter was an equal to the other bishops. It was not him, but James that gave the final decision
And?
If Peter was the first pope, why was he an equal, and why did he not give the decision
why was there even a need for a council
if there was a pope
additionally, Peter also wrote in 1 Pet 5:1 "To the elders among you, I appeal as a fellow elder and a witness of Christโs sufferings who also will share in the glory to be revealed.."
"as a fellow elder" now why did he not speak with authority but spoke to the others as equals?
peter is indeed the rock of the church
Official catholic doctrine calls Peter "First among equals"
this is affirmed
elder = apostles
The other patriarchs are equals too
in that case there soon wouldn't be any more elders among which he was equal
The Antioch Patriarch domain allows priest marriages, for example
That's not how the Catholic church views it. Papal infallibility does not state that any cardinal can correct a theological view of the Pope
but at no time did God decree that a man "the pope" would lead his church after peter and hear gods word and be infallible
this is all heresy
Not cardinal. Patriarchs
the orthodox remained true
So Patriarchs are all infallible?
Catholicism likely got a Guinnes book entry for being strawmanned
This is not Catholic dogma my guy
yet he claims this
Not infalible, but equals yes
Yep, when the pope speaks bs than it's francis bs, there are a lot of conditions to be met for it to be the popes bs
Or are they
I forgot
If they're equal why does the Pope have infallibility
I'm sorry dude but it really strikes me like you're just using Catholicism as a tool instead of having genuine belief
Look upon the historical actions of this pope
more proof need you not
The total us state budgets of possible states that could join right now is 731.7B
their actions are of pure evil
Multiply that by .03
and have created much travail in this world
Thats 22B
Because peter was first among them
His word carries more weight
Well evidently they didn't considering Paul literally corrected him
peter was the only "pope" if you wanna go with that term
And he was the only one promised by jesus to the tying earth with heaven thing
Ah yes ofc
Galatians 2:11-14
Infalibility only happens in one case
In an official announcement ritual
That can get us 1222 F-16s
Which was used only once
No he wasn't promised that alone
Matthew 18:18 is clear on this
If the pope debates he isnt infallible
15 โIf your brother or sister[b] sins,[c] go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that โevery matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.โ[d] 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.
18 โTruly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be[e] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[f] loosed in heaven.
19 โAgain, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.โ
bind and loose is the ability to forgive sins
Is my boy @21ooAB going to get us a few billion dollars for pew pews?
not bastardise dogma
โTruly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be[a] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[b] loosed in heaven.
It has to be ex cathedra. Found the name
@Eternal Entropy this. Only to petrr
Oh man Blanc Jay Dyer would eat you alive on this
says nothing about a person after peter keeoping this power
it's not only to Peter mate
I just pasted the extract
Nono
where he told the same thing to everyone of the Apostles
The other one gimme a sec
anyways. Jesus was the important figure
not the pope
and I listen to jesus as spoken of through his apostles
not a pope
"Papal infallibility is a dogma of the Catholic Church that states that, in virtue of the promise of Jesus to Peter, the Pope is preserved from the possibility of error "when, in the exercise of his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians, in virtue of his supreme apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church.""
so where does debate come into this
Peter wanted to make a statement about faith
that you should not associate with Gentiles
When in exercise
Paul BTFO'd him on that theological question
they dead
Look up ex cathedra
blanc this is some serious mental gymnastics
What?
The when there
Ik what ex cathedra is and ex cathedra does not extend to Papal infallibility
Is explained in detail later
I'll leave this to you 2
Guys, itโs cold outside again. : )))))
I'm in the new house of Glory
Thats about the nilitary of South Korea
:0
When you have Papal Infallibility it means that whatever theological question the Pope speaks about, it is true and perfect. This is your dogma. No need for it to be ex cathedra
Only thru ex cathedra and the popes know it cant be used lightly
It was a measure for fighting prots
there wasn't a central authority for 1000 years roughly
Where?
it was splitt between the cities
anywhere
You mean anti popes?
they could govern themselves
There is defined line of legitimate popes
Ahh
prior to 1054 there was no central authority like Rome, and Rome was also treated as an equal
Yea
yes
But rome was more important always mate
then things went down a dark path
As with all patriarchs
Importance means primacy?
Yea
satan entered the church
Kinda
that is mental gymnastics at its core come on now
and made himself God
aka the catholic pope
Alright satan can enter church but it wont die ever
Rome did not have power over any other Patriarchate
The apostles of christ
In rome right now
Remember
the church will never die
Amen
and it asserted in 1054 that it in fact did have that power
Even there was a traitor influenced by satan among the twelve
I doubt Catholicism will die. Itโs very adaptive. Iโm a Protestant.
It can happen on modern apostles
oh it will
and is now
Definitely
It is prophesized even
yup
Catholicism as we know it is already dead. It's a situation of taking a ship and slowly replacing every plank that it's made out of
For a pope influenced by the anti christ himself
by baha u llah as well
Yea catholicism is going downhill but its here to stay
You do realize that you are arguing the same stuff that argued 1,000 years ago. I doubt one if you can settle it.
Until the apocalypse
Ah yes yes
no it will be erased
in time
By smarter people by us
Let's also not forget that Constantinople had most importance of any patriarchate, even over Rome, from the 4th century
I speak these words as from the pen of baha u llah
because the
>holy
>Roman
>empire
degraded into memehood
who spoke in this time of speaking in inevitable terms
there was also no papal infallibility until the concept was invented after the schism
yes
YUS
It's all added by the minds of men who seek power
and brouht satan in
Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona. For flesh and blood hast not revealed this to thee, butย my Fatherย who is inย heaven. And I say to thee, thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death [gates of hell] shall not prevail against it. I will give to thee theย keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatsoever thou shaltย bindon earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Oh nono found it
papal infallibility is just bullshit
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amen
BLESSED ART THOU INDEED
just a old man in a cone hat
Rome literally never had any glimmer of authority over any other Patriarchate, unlike it did after the Schism. So to say that this is the way it has always been and that it is true is flat out nonsense
It does tho
Antioch patriarcate
But allows them to do whatever
@blanc I've already told you. Matthew 18:15-18
read it
Like priest marriages
Yea yea
Equals
its good to respect holy men but only holy men that are holy
But what i put gives peter further power
Peter was not the only one allowed to "bind and loose"
No it does not
that's malarky
just saying it does not does not make it so
Does Paul correcting Peter give Paul further power?
like there is good buhdist monks that fallow the code
Did they get the keys of heaven or the title of foundation of the church
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