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2019-11-12 14:47:51 UTC

@Hector I'm just criticizing Fuentes doesn't mean I have the solution

2019-11-12 14:47:52 UTC

haha

2019-11-12 14:47:55 UTC

there is only 1 religion that secures racial right too existence and lands

2019-11-12 14:47:58 UTC

nick himself is less than 90% white

2019-11-12 14:48:07 UTC

Viewing religion as a tool is the wrong way of thinking about it

2019-11-12 14:48:10 UTC

@Eternal Entropy And that is cosmotheism

2019-11-12 14:48:18 UTC

nah

2019-11-12 14:48:22 UTC

Yes

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and religion is gods tool

2019-11-12 14:48:31 UTC

Bro

2019-11-12 14:48:33 UTC

catholicism is an impediment

2019-11-12 14:48:46 UTC

Catholicism is the truth

2019-11-12 14:48:51 UTC

cosmotheism is ancient history literally

2019-11-12 14:48:59 UTC

Catholic nations are low IQ & corrupt

2019-11-12 14:49:02 UTC

Yes

2019-11-12 14:49:05 UTC

that was 3 prophetic cycles ago

2019-11-12 14:49:06 UTC

no k word

2019-11-12 14:49:11 UTC

@blanc Not quite

2019-11-12 14:49:13 UTC

k word bad

2019-11-12 14:49:49 UTC

Lmao. If you don't have solution for our problems yet criticize some of mine, you're useless

2019-11-12 14:49:50 UTC

@blanc wanna have an Orthodox v Catholic civil talk? :^)

2019-11-12 14:50:12 UTC

Your problems are my solution

2019-11-12 14:50:17 UTC

America becomes too brown to function

2019-11-12 14:50:18 UTC

I follow the western patriarchy, the bishop of rome

2019-11-12 14:50:19 UTC

NATO collapses

2019-11-12 14:50:20 UTC

@21ooAB false

2019-11-12 14:50:22 UTC

Europe is free

2019-11-12 14:50:26 UTC

my solution is yo momma

2019-11-12 14:50:27 UTC

the point is

2019-11-12 14:50:29 UTC

<:dab:395562678153904128>

2019-11-12 14:50:37 UTC

If your solution is bad it is bad whether there is an alternative or not

2019-11-12 14:50:38 UTC

don't waste your time on things that have failed

2019-11-12 14:50:41 UTC

@blanc so how come Peter was the Bishop of Antioch?

2019-11-12 14:50:46 UTC

@Hector I told you I don't have the solutions, secession is probably the most practical option, I'm just criticizing Fuentes that's all

2019-11-12 14:50:49 UTC

Huh? Source

2019-11-12 14:50:58 UTC

Peter is even buried in the vatican

2019-11-12 14:51:03 UTC

don't steer people toward dead ends

2019-11-12 14:51:17 UTC

Catholicism is not a tool

2019-11-12 14:51:18 UTC

how do you not know this

2019-11-12 14:51:20 UTC

Its a belief

2019-11-12 14:51:24 UTC

lol

2019-11-12 14:51:33 UTC

religion is absolutely a tool

2019-11-12 14:51:39 UTC

I don't view paganism as a means to control society

2019-11-12 14:51:40 UTC

doesn't make it bad

2019-11-12 14:51:43 UTC

@Panikooooos in the US, you need 2/3 majority to succeed. Thatโ€™s not even feasible in the US since itโ€™s 60% white. Thereโ€™s no ethnostate solution within 50 years.

2019-11-12 14:51:44 UTC

it is

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BASED

2019-11-12 14:51:45 UTC

It has factually been used as a tool by the pope for great evil

2019-11-12 14:51:52 UTC

@21ooAB all religions are means to control society

2019-11-12 14:51:56 UTC

@blanc Would you like to chat later?

2019-11-12 14:52:07 UTC

that's why they have rules and behavioural expectations

2019-11-12 14:52:07 UTC

In an hour or so.

2019-11-12 14:52:13 UTC

@Hector Best solution is to make an interstate defense pact

2019-11-12 14:52:47 UTC

Sargon's on the verge of raising another man's child

2019-11-12 14:52:50 UTC

what if the child consents tho

2019-11-12 14:53:04 UTC

If religion wasn't a tool it would never break open the doorway of your soul to percieve it

2019-11-12 14:53:10 UTC

Get 10-25 states

2019-11-12 14:53:29 UTC

Contribute 2% of their budget to military each

2019-11-12 14:53:31 UTC

it would never change the world with the tool of it's laws

2019-11-12 14:53:33 UTC

Apparently the Antioch thing is disputed

2019-11-12 14:53:42 UTC

Also

2019-11-12 14:53:44 UTC

Transfer National Guard equipment to SDFs

2019-11-12 14:53:47 UTC

it was literally founded by Peter lmao

2019-11-12 14:53:50 UTC

It is recognized by all he died in rome

2019-11-12 14:53:56 UTC

And?

2019-11-12 14:53:58 UTC

religion is a tool or it's naught but a joke

2019-11-12 14:53:58 UTC

And when America invades a foreign country

2019-11-12 14:54:01 UTC

Strike

2019-11-12 14:54:12 UTC

And there is a Catholic Antioch Patriarch too

2019-11-12 14:54:14 UTC

do you want to do this in VC? I'm happy to have a chat about this

2019-11-12 14:54:15 UTC

Very old

2019-11-12 14:54:25 UTC

I have class sorry

2019-11-12 14:54:38 UTC

well, in that case let me raise your attention to something

2019-11-12 14:54:52 UTC

I can if you wish

2019-11-12 14:55:00 UTC

just ask we all stay civil

2019-11-12 14:55:33 UTC

in the council of Jerusalem, Peter was an equal to the other bishops. It was not him, but James that gave the final decision

2019-11-12 14:56:33 UTC

And?

2019-11-12 14:57:02 UTC

If Peter was the first pope, why was he an equal, and why did he not give the decision

2019-11-12 14:57:08 UTC

why was there even a need for a council

2019-11-12 14:57:12 UTC

if there was a pope

2019-11-12 14:57:29 UTC

additionally, Peter also wrote in 1 Pet 5:1 "To the elders among you, I appeal as a fellow elder and a witness of Christโ€™s sufferings who also will share in the glory to be revealed.."

2019-11-12 14:57:47 UTC

"as a fellow elder" now why did he not speak with authority but spoke to the others as equals?

2019-11-12 14:57:53 UTC

peter is indeed the rock of the church

2019-11-12 14:57:58 UTC

Official catholic doctrine calls Peter "First among equals"

2019-11-12 14:58:01 UTC

this is affirmed

2019-11-12 14:58:06 UTC

elder = apostles

2019-11-12 14:58:11 UTC

The other patriarchs are equals too

2019-11-12 14:58:27 UTC

in that case there soon wouldn't be any more elders among which he was equal

2019-11-12 14:58:28 UTC

The Antioch Patriarch domain allows priest marriages, for example

2019-11-12 14:58:42 UTC

That's not how the Catholic church views it. Papal infallibility does not state that any cardinal can correct a theological view of the Pope

2019-11-12 14:58:50 UTC

but at no time did God decree that a man "the pope" would lead his church after peter and hear gods word and be infallible

2019-11-12 14:58:56 UTC

this is all heresy

2019-11-12 14:58:59 UTC

Not cardinal. Patriarchs

2019-11-12 14:59:15 UTC

the orthodox remained true

2019-11-12 14:59:20 UTC

So Patriarchs are all infallible?

2019-11-12 14:59:26 UTC

Catholicism likely got a Guinnes book entry for being strawmanned

2019-11-12 14:59:31 UTC

This is not Catholic dogma my guy

2019-11-12 15:00:06 UTC

yet he claims this

2019-11-12 15:00:15 UTC

Not infalible, but equals yes

2019-11-12 15:00:18 UTC

Yep, when the pope speaks bs than it's francis bs, there are a lot of conditions to be met for it to be the popes bs

2019-11-12 15:00:19 UTC

Or are they

2019-11-12 15:00:21 UTC

I forgot

2019-11-12 15:00:29 UTC

If they're equal why does the Pope have infallibility

2019-11-12 15:00:49 UTC

I'm sorry dude but it really strikes me like you're just using Catholicism as a tool instead of having genuine belief

2019-11-12 15:00:51 UTC

Look upon the historical actions of this pope

2019-11-12 15:01:03 UTC

more proof need you not

2019-11-12 15:01:06 UTC

The total us state budgets of possible states that could join right now is 731.7B

2019-11-12 15:01:13 UTC

their actions are of pure evil

2019-11-12 15:01:17 UTC

Multiply that by .03

2019-11-12 15:01:28 UTC

and have created much travail in this world

2019-11-12 15:01:40 UTC

Thats 22B

2019-11-12 15:01:42 UTC

Because peter was first among them

2019-11-12 15:01:49 UTC

His word carries more weight

2019-11-12 15:02:01 UTC

Well evidently they didn't considering Paul literally corrected him

2019-11-12 15:02:07 UTC

peter was the only "pope" if you wanna go with that term

2019-11-12 15:02:10 UTC

And he was the only one promised by jesus to the tying earth with heaven thing

2019-11-12 15:02:13 UTC

Ah yes ofc

2019-11-12 15:02:20 UTC

Galatians 2:11-14

2019-11-12 15:02:21 UTC

Infalibility only happens in one case

2019-11-12 15:02:31 UTC

In an official announcement ritual

2019-11-12 15:02:35 UTC

That can get us 1222 F-16s

2019-11-12 15:02:36 UTC

Which was used only once

2019-11-12 15:02:39 UTC

No he wasn't promised that alone

2019-11-12 15:02:46 UTC

Matthew 18:18 is clear on this

2019-11-12 15:03:00 UTC

If the pope debates he isnt infallible

2019-11-12 15:03:01 UTC

15 โ€œIf your brother or sister[b] sins,[c] go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that โ€˜every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.โ€™[d] 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

18 โ€œTruly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be[e] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[f] loosed in heaven.

19 โ€œAgain, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.โ€

2019-11-12 15:03:16 UTC

bind and loose is the ability to forgive sins

2019-11-12 15:03:20 UTC

Is my boy @21ooAB going to get us a few billion dollars for pew pews?

2019-11-12 15:03:22 UTC

not bastardise dogma

2019-11-12 15:03:28 UTC

โ€œTruly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be[a] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[b] loosed in heaven.

2019-11-12 15:03:34 UTC

It has to be ex cathedra. Found the name

2019-11-12 15:03:43 UTC

@Eternal Entropy this. Only to petrr

2019-11-12 15:03:48 UTC

Oh man Blanc Jay Dyer would eat you alive on this

2019-11-12 15:03:56 UTC

says nothing about a person after peter keeoping this power

2019-11-12 15:03:57 UTC

it's not only to Peter mate

2019-11-12 15:04:01 UTC

I just pasted the extract

2019-11-12 15:04:05 UTC

Nono

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where he told the same thing to everyone of the Apostles

2019-11-12 15:04:14 UTC

The other one gimme a sec

2019-11-12 15:04:44 UTC

anyways. Jesus was the important figure

2019-11-12 15:04:49 UTC

not the pope

2019-11-12 15:05:11 UTC

and I listen to jesus as spoken of through his apostles

2019-11-12 15:05:13 UTC

not a pope

2019-11-12 15:05:13 UTC

"Papal infallibility is a dogma of the Catholic Church that states that, in virtue of the promise of Jesus to Peter, the Pope is preserved from the possibility of error "when, in the exercise of his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians, in virtue of his supreme apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church.""

2019-11-12 15:05:20 UTC

so where does debate come into this

2019-11-12 15:05:28 UTC

Peter wanted to make a statement about faith

2019-11-12 15:05:34 UTC

that you should not associate with Gentiles

2019-11-12 15:05:44 UTC

When in exercise

2019-11-12 15:05:45 UTC

Paul BTFO'd him on that theological question

2019-11-12 15:05:49 UTC

they dead

2019-11-12 15:05:51 UTC

Look up ex cathedra

2019-11-12 15:05:57 UTC

blanc this is some serious mental gymnastics

2019-11-12 15:06:02 UTC

What?

2019-11-12 15:06:11 UTC

The when there

2019-11-12 15:06:16 UTC

Ik what ex cathedra is and ex cathedra does not extend to Papal infallibility

2019-11-12 15:06:17 UTC

Is explained in detail later

2019-11-12 15:06:19 UTC

I'll leave this to you 2

2019-11-12 15:06:21 UTC
2019-11-12 15:06:33 UTC

Guys, itโ€™s cold outside again. : )))))

2019-11-12 15:06:33 UTC

I'm in the new house of Glory

2019-11-12 15:06:39 UTC

Thats about the nilitary of South Korea

2019-11-12 15:06:48 UTC

:0

2019-11-12 15:07:20 UTC

When you have Papal Infallibility it means that whatever theological question the Pope speaks about, it is true and perfect. This is your dogma. No need for it to be ex cathedra

2019-11-12 15:07:39 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/643829268358365195/Screenshot_20191112-100733_Samsung_Internet.jpg

2019-11-12 15:08:04 UTC

Only thru ex cathedra and the popes know it cant be used lightly

2019-11-12 15:08:22 UTC

It was a measure for fighting prots

2019-11-12 15:08:35 UTC

there wasn't a central authority for 1000 years roughly

2019-11-12 15:08:42 UTC

Where?

2019-11-12 15:08:43 UTC

it was splitt between the cities

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anywhere

2019-11-12 15:08:52 UTC

You mean anti popes?

2019-11-12 15:08:58 UTC

they could govern themselves

2019-11-12 15:09:02 UTC

There is defined line of legitimate popes

2019-11-12 15:09:03 UTC

Ahh

2019-11-12 15:09:05 UTC

prior to 1054 there was no central authority like Rome, and Rome was also treated as an equal

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Yea

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yes

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But rome was more important always mate

2019-11-12 15:09:28 UTC

then things went down a dark path

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As with all patriarchs

2019-11-12 15:09:31 UTC

Importance means primacy?

2019-11-12 15:09:34 UTC

Yea

2019-11-12 15:09:34 UTC

satan entered the church

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Kinda

2019-11-12 15:09:45 UTC

that is mental gymnastics at its core come on now

2019-11-12 15:09:46 UTC

and made himself God

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aka the catholic pope

2019-11-12 15:09:55 UTC

Alright satan can enter church but it wont die ever

2019-11-12 15:09:59 UTC

Rome did not have power over any other Patriarchate

2019-11-12 15:10:03 UTC

The apostles of christ

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In rome right now

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Remember

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the church will never die

2019-11-12 15:10:19 UTC

Amen

2019-11-12 15:10:25 UTC

and it asserted in 1054 that it in fact did have that power

2019-11-12 15:10:28 UTC

Even there was a traitor influenced by satan among the twelve

2019-11-12 15:10:35 UTC

I doubt Catholicism will die. Itโ€™s very adaptive. Iโ€™m a Protestant.

2019-11-12 15:10:39 UTC

It can happen on modern apostles

2019-11-12 15:10:43 UTC

oh it will

2019-11-12 15:10:45 UTC

and is now

2019-11-12 15:10:48 UTC

Definitely

2019-11-12 15:10:52 UTC

It is prophesized even

2019-11-12 15:11:00 UTC

yup

2019-11-12 15:11:03 UTC

Catholicism as we know it is already dead. It's a situation of taking a ship and slowly replacing every plank that it's made out of

2019-11-12 15:11:07 UTC

For a pope influenced by the anti christ himself

2019-11-12 15:11:12 UTC

by baha u llah as well

2019-11-12 15:11:32 UTC

Yea catholicism is going downhill but its here to stay

2019-11-12 15:11:40 UTC

You do realize that you are arguing the same stuff that argued 1,000 years ago. I doubt one if you can settle it.

2019-11-12 15:11:41 UTC

Until the apocalypse

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Ah yes yes

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no it will be erased

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in time

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By smarter people by us

2019-11-12 15:12:14 UTC

Let's also not forget that Constantinople had most importance of any patriarchate, even over Rome, from the 4th century

2019-11-12 15:12:28 UTC

I speak these words as from the pen of baha u llah

2019-11-12 15:12:30 UTC

because the
>holy
>Roman
>empire
degraded into memehood

2019-11-12 15:12:44 UTC

who spoke in this time of speaking in inevitable terms

2019-11-12 15:13:00 UTC

there was also no papal infallibility until the concept was invented after the schism

2019-11-12 15:13:08 UTC

yes

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YUS

2019-11-12 15:13:34 UTC

It's all added by the minds of men who seek power

2019-11-12 15:13:40 UTC

and brouht satan in

2019-11-12 15:13:40 UTC

Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona. For flesh and blood hast not revealed this to thee, butย my Fatherย who is inย heaven. And I say to thee, thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death [gates of hell] shall not prevail against it. I will give to thee theย keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatsoever thou shaltย bindon earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Oh nono found it

2019-11-12 15:13:53 UTC

papal infallibility is just bullshit

2019-11-12 15:13:59 UTC

<:smugooze:398100987866251265>

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amen

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BLESSED ART THOU INDEED

2019-11-12 15:14:08 UTC

just a old man in a cone hat

2019-11-12 15:14:28 UTC

Rome literally never had any glimmer of authority over any other Patriarchate, unlike it did after the Schism. So to say that this is the way it has always been and that it is true is flat out nonsense

2019-11-12 15:14:39 UTC

It does tho

2019-11-12 15:14:49 UTC

Antioch patriarcate

2019-11-12 15:14:57 UTC

But allows them to do whatever

2019-11-12 15:15:00 UTC

@blanc I've already told you. Matthew 18:15-18

2019-11-12 15:15:01 UTC

read it

2019-11-12 15:15:01 UTC

Like priest marriages

2019-11-12 15:15:07 UTC

Yea yea

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Equals

2019-11-12 15:15:10 UTC

its good to respect holy men but only holy men that are holy

2019-11-12 15:15:20 UTC

But what i put gives peter further power

2019-11-12 15:15:24 UTC

Peter was not the only one allowed to "bind and loose"

2019-11-12 15:15:27 UTC

No it does not

2019-11-12 15:15:30 UTC

that's malarky

2019-11-12 15:15:40 UTC

just saying it does not does not make it so

2019-11-12 15:15:57 UTC

Does Paul correcting Peter give Paul further power?

2019-11-12 15:15:58 UTC

like there is good buhdist monks that fallow the code

2019-11-12 15:16:02 UTC

Did they get the keys of heaven or the title of foundation of the church

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