oh hey Tuerschlossenteiser!

you've been gone for a while

he dared showing his face earlier today

at least today for me..

turns out you have to pay for internet ...

even as a white person

😄

WHAT?

this is MADNESS

I watched Ancient Aliens debunked like 40 times in the last weeks

I heard from red elephant that 50% of Americans earn less than 35k a year

I believe it

if you earn that much you get a pretty big amount in negative income taxes

Wage growth is non-existant here

like 30-40% of american have less than 1k in the bank

30-40% or something

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian%E2%80%93Montenegrin_unionism

UwU

https://www.ancientaliensdebunked.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9w-i5oZqaQ

uhm

but muh aliums

my ancestors 😍

why would anyone want to debunk Ancient Aliens? <:impotentrage:552803856535257090>

NORDS

what kind of sick person would debunk ancient aliens

I spend my time debunking ancient nords all the time

you debunk ancient nords yet you constantly say that arabs wuz white...

defamation

`18. Jensen argues, in effect, that cognitive 'races' exist because genes related to human cognitive systems will have been subjected to diversifying selection in the same way as some superficial physical or physiological characters. He suggests that northern migrants would have faced particularly difficult conditions. As a result, groups of African descent will have lower frequencies of genes for superior cognitive abilities, compared with those of Caucasian or Mongoloid ancestry.

19. This completely misses the point. Our African hominid ancestors themselves evolved as a social-cooperative species in order to deal with conditions of extreme environmental uncertainty, as the climate dried, forests thinned, and former forest dwellers were 'flung out' onto the open savannah or forest margins. It is crucial to point out that when even as few as two individuals cooperate they create a new, social environment that is vastly more complex than anything experienced in the physical world. It is that complexity on the social plane which rapidly impelled the tripling of brain size and furnished the unique cognitive capacity for dealing with complexity in general - in the physical world as well as the social.`

Uh oh

@Deleted User yes <:CHAD:396569198404435969>

here we go again

The more I look into the race realist arguments, the more faulty they seem to me.

babygotbach, please go on jfs show

yes, but that's because you're not very smart

https://twitter.com/JFGariepy/status/1189636682359984128

here is JFGariepy

you can ask him about it if you want

35k is nothing. People don’t realize how bad inflations is fucking them

About wut?

i see no problem banning all political advertising

https://twitter.com/Akademiks/status/1189544533945704449?s=19 God...

@BabygottBach

if it's enforced equally, but im sure it wont be

what do you think of the quote I posted, @JFGariepy?

Won't they ban memes and such too though

This is what happens when you sexualise and make a 14 year old girl into a celebrity.

you can't ask him that, it's too much reading

@Fully Buckminstered i would hope not

pretty sure it's just actual advertisements

I know a guy in the Ancient Aliens doc

That the more you look into race realists arguments, the more they look faulty to you? Please specify

No, the quote I posted before that.

`18. Jensen argues, in effect, that cognitive 'races' exist because genes related to human cognitive systems will have been subjected to diversifying selection in the same way as some superficial physical or physiological characters. He suggests that northern migrants would have faced particularly difficult conditions. As a result, groups of African descent will have lower frequencies of genes for superior cognitive abilities, compared with those of Caucasian or Mongoloid ancestry.

19. This completely misses the point. Our African hominid ancestors themselves evolved as a social-cooperative species in order to deal with conditions of extreme environmental uncertainty, as the climate dried, forests thinned, and former forest dwellers were 'flung out' onto the open savannah or forest margins. It is crucial to point out that when even as few as two individuals cooperate they create a new, social environment that is vastly more complex than anything experienced in the physical world. It is that complexity on the social plane which rapidly impelled the tripling of brain size and furnished the unique cognitive capacity for dealing with complexity in general - in the physical world as well as the social.`

This one.

👉🏻 <#634548436280016906>

Question: Do arms dealers, or gun salesmen, bare responsibility for crimes committed with the products they sell?

no

`20. The uniquely adaptable, highly selected, socio-cognitive system that resulted was a prerequisite, not a consequence, of human migration patterns. Although inhabiting every possible niche, humans have only a quarter of the genetic variation of highly niche-specific chimpanzees (Kaessmann et al 1999). The system operates on a completely different plane from blind genetic selection - one which can 'model' the world conceptually, and anticipate and change it. If our heads get cold we invent hats, rather than wait for natural selection to reshape our skulls and increase the size of our brains (which is what Jensen suggests in one particularly questionable y line of argument). As Owens & King (1999) point out, what minor genetic differences exist are 'quite literally superficial... the possibility that human history has been characterised by genetically homogeneous groups ("races") distinguished by major biological differences, is not consistent with genetic evidence'. `

Do car salesman?

ain't nobody got time for this

Would it depend on scale? Like, If I armed both factions in a war? Do I bare responsibility for that bloodshed? Or an I just providing a service anyone would provide?

Denying race realism is like worse than believing in anti-vax and flat earth combined.

guess where he's from

I bet you can't

These quotes address the claim that natural selection in our prehistory created differential selection pressures that caused the intelligence differences we see in races today.

uganda

Norway

Clearly an african

argentina?

you can't know, race isn't real

South Africa

@Banjod you ofc

China

And Jenson and Rushton were both liberals. If you can't convince you, no one can.

https://twitter.com/MisterAntiBully/status/1189637975094824960

these two are exactly the same and we would expect the same cognitive abelites

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27252307 I love how they Imply that SA isn't actually their home, when they've lived there for generations, and cultivated their own culture and way of life, unique from their European ancestors.

i think it's good that they do come home

fuck africa

https://twitter.com/liil11fl/status/1189636716367364097

It's race denialism bullshit. Among other things, it relies on the conception that cognitive effects of evolution must have happened before migration rather than after, for which there is no evidence at all other than some supposition made by the author. Furthermore, it denies the differences existing between groups of people that find themselves in different conditions (i.e. perhaps cooperation is good in a winter if you live on average 1 km away from anyone, but not at the equator if you live with 40 people around you all the time who may have increased violent tendencies). It then commits the error of thinking that genetic diversity as measured on a per-letter-of-DNA basis is a good quantification to affirm or deny the presence of distinct evolutionary pressures applying to different groups. It doesn't. We could have less variation than chimpanzees in number of letters, yet stronger natural selection pressures could be at play in shaping the different frequencies between groups. Finally, it strawmans the race realist position by stating that races are "genetically homogeneous groups," which is not the position and which should always raise a red flag in the reader, since setting such an impossible standard is clearly evidence that the author wanted to reach the conclusion that races don't exist.

@BabygottBach I am willing to give you a serious discussion in the <#634548436280016906> channel. If you came here knowing we are race realists, you can here to provoke meaningless without a serious discussion.

One race the human race

Hail JF!

I think you're strawmanning the quote, @JFGariepy

that's because you think everything is a strawman

Then, @Banjod, explain to me how he could infer any of what he just said from the quotes I posted.

@BabygottBach I am welling to give you a serious debate in <#634548436280016906> .

_any_ of it

?

For instance, where does the quote say that "races have to be homogenous"?

I am swelling

for this debate

@BabygottBach please read your own quote

well, I didn't read the shit

Unless JF is familiar with the source of the quote and the authors themselves and know them to be operating on false conceptions of the race realist argument.

they already are

look at what I posted

that is not the race realist position

so its already a strawman

we know it's false because thinking the opposite makes no sense. I've already laid out simple logical cases for you

from the get-go

which proves different groups must exist

@BabygottBach You're the one accusing a Ph. D scientist of strawmanning, you could at least show us a statement I've made which you believe is not supported by the paragraphs.

you just strawmanned him again

@BabygottBach It's DOCTOR JF to you

... crickets.

<:JFGOD:439598359628611604>

@BabygottBach like I said, I am willing to give you a thoughtful and serious debate.

How DARE you not know random details about the person who got randomly quoted with no context

@JFGariepy, does the quote say that race realists claim that races are homogenous?

It does not. So why did you say that it did?

"the possibility that human history has been characterised by genetically homogeneous groups ("races") distinguished by major biological differences, is not consistent with genetic evidence"

genetic bottlenecks and isolation is the easiest case to prove genetic groups must exist

Nerth showed you it did

even on intelligence

it quite literally says it.

When you put a word in parenthesis after a statement, it's a way of saying "which is to us, a definition of what races are"

Where does it say that race realists say that races are homogenous? It says instead that racial homgeneity is not consistent with genetic evidence.

` Finally, it strawmans the race realist position by stating that races are "genetically homogeneous groups," which is not the position and which should always raise a red flag in the reader, since setting such an impossible standard is clearly evidence that the author wanted to reach the conclusion that races don't exist.`

it MAYBE make for a fun "debate"

if he's willing

Ok, I've banned this guy

babygotbach = mixed raCE btw

<:CHAD:396569198404435969>

because the quote was literally stating this. goodbye

lol

Did he block me?

thanks papa JF

he's completely dishonest person anyway

he's majority han chinese

with soem euro

Lol

Fuguer btfo

is he wrong tho

he's been here 2 times

aaaaaaaand the bitch is gone

well, he did give us all a chance to try to hone our debating skills.

It's race denialism bullshit. Among other things, it relies on the conception that cognitive effects of evolution must have happened before migration rather than after, for which there is no evidence at all other than some supposition made by the author. Furthermore, it denies the differences existing between groups of people that find themselves in different conditions (i.e. perhaps cooperation is good in a winter if you live on average 1 km away from anyone, but not at the equator if you live with 40 people around you all the time who may have increased violent tendencies). It then commits the error of thinking that genetic diversity as measured on a per-letter-of-DNA basis is a good quantification to affirm or deny the presence of distinct evolutionary pressures applying to different groups. It doesn't. We could have less variation than chimpanzees in number of letters, yet stronger natural selection pressures could be at play in shaping the different frequencies between groups. Finally, it strawmans the race realist position by stating that races are "genetically homogeneous groups," which is not the position and which should always raise a red flag in the reader, since setting such an impossible standard is clearly evidence that the author wanted to reach the conclusion that races don't exist.

everything was strawmen and projection

imagine reading all that shit

It's race denialism bullshit. Among other things, it relies on the conception that cognitive effects of evolution must have happened before migration rather than after, for which there is no evidence at all other than some supposition made by the author. Furthermore, it denies the differences existing between groups of people that find themselves in different conditions (i.e. perhaps cooperation is good in a winter if you live on average 1 km away from anyone, but not at the equator if you live with 40 people around you all the time who may have increased violent tendencies). It then commits the error of thinking that genetic diversity as measured on a per-letter-of-DNA basis is a good quantification to affirm or deny the presence of distinct evolutionary pressures applying to different groups. It doesn't. We could have less variation than chimpanzees in number of letters, yet stronger natural selection pressures could be at play in shaping the different frequencies between groups. Finally, it strawmans the race realist position by stating that races are "genetically homogeneous groups," which is not the position and which should always raise a red flag in the reader, since setting such an impossible standard is clearly evidence that the author wanted to reach the conclusion that races don't exist.

It's race denialism bullshit. Among other things, it relies on the conception that cognitive effects of evolution must have happened before migration rather than after, for which there is no evidence at all other than some supposition made by the author. Furthermore, it denies the differences existing between groups of people that find themselves in different conditions (i.e. perhaps cooperation is good in a winter if you live on average 1 km away from anyone, but not at the equator if you live with 40 people around you all the time who may have increased violent tendencies). It then commits the error of thinking that genetic diversity as measured on a per-letter-of-DNA basis is a good quantification to affirm or deny the presence of distinct evolutionary pressures applying to different groups. It doesn't. We could have less variation than chimpanzees in number of letters, yet stronger natural selection pressures could be at play in shaping the different frequencies between groups. Finally, it strawmans the race realist position by stating that races are "genetically homogeneous groups," which is not the position and which should always raise a red flag in the reader, since setting such an impossible standard is clearly evidence that the author wanted to reach the conclusion that races don't exist.

It's race denialism bullshit. Among other things, it relies on the conception that cognitive effects of evolution must have happened before migration rather than after, for which there is no evidence at all other than some supposition made by the author. Furthermore, it denies the differences existing between groups of people that find themselves in different conditions (i.e. perhaps cooperation is good in a winter if you live on average 1 km away from anyone, but not at the equator if you live with 40 people around you all the time who may have increased violent tendencies). It then commits the error of thinking that genetic diversity as measured on a per-letter-of-DNA basis is a good quantification to affirm or deny the presence of distinct evolutionary pressures applying to different groups. It doesn't. We could have less variation than chimpanzees in number of letters, yet stronger natural selection pressures could be at play in shaping the different frequencies between groups. Finally, it strawmans the race realist position by stating that races are "genetically homogeneous groups," which is not the position and which should always raise a red flag in the reader, since setting such an impossible standard is clearly evidence that the author wanted to reach the conclusion that races don't exist.

reeeeee

oh jf said it

<:JFGOD:439598359628611604>

💯

_We could have less variation than chimpanzees in number of letters, yet stronger natural selection pressures could be at play in shaping the different frequencies between groups._

<:goldpill:626276664837537833>

this was the biggest takeaway from me

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4888873/ @JFGariepy we've been discussing with that guy whether or not this study means that we have to throw out twin studies as a basis for high heritability of intelligence

jf is fooking based

i have to donate

"do you have the genes"
"yes *posts the genes*"

"do you have all the knowledge about how these genes work"

that's the type of person

nope

LOL

@逃げる JOKA BAY BEE

<:GWsetmyxPeepoSad:405337568901726209>

<:towelsweat:552805059042344960>

weebs OUT 😡

then I explain it's frequency of those genes, which are correlated to higher intelligence when they occur

silence after that

just not smart to post a webm or meme with enwurd in the name when the bossman is around

can Cenk say it

just kept doing this without changing views

OF COURSE

cenk is a vile bigot and should be sent to reeducation camp for life

explained how genetic bottlenecks and isolation proves that groups "must" be different in intelligence

silence after that

just repeat of this

Lol the Gorka stream is hilarious

you already know this is a dishonest person

there's now a woman who claims she was emotionally triggered by Nick

are you a nicker now

and people putting cookies in the chat

can a streamer disable livechat midstream? @JFGariepy

if he didn't say retarded shit about lolbertarianism i'd be a nicker

JF are you having Spencer on tonight?

nick just needs more iq

yes

https://youtu.be/Ai5CiftVWo0

he should train at the library

I think you can

lol ask Spencer about Nick

interesting

he'll hate it

I don't know if it would show on the viewer side

Lmao

you should ask Spencer about all the attention Nick is getting <:steflol:561214382181318656>

rohohoh she has a msg

Cuckoldry

to nick

nerth, he has to be on, else jf would have known about the beef

she wants NICK THE KNIFE TO GARGLE RAZOR BLADES

"gargle on razorblades"

based

who's this fat boomer

Can anyone call in?

@Rokoyes

Is this legit?

sebastian gorka aka alexander sangmoore

Some woman started crying about the Holocaust

is annika wrong?

yes

it's _a_ solution

but

annika is wrong 25% of what she says, so not too bad for a woman

Isn't it just cuckoldry

markomann is gonna raise one of his wife and my sons

you know, when the trump adiminstration first started, he was grilled hard by jewish interest groups because he used to wear a medal that belonged to his grandfather. it was a medal from some hungarian anti-communist freedom fighter group that also dabbled in anti-semitism

seb gorka i mean

former trump advisor

@Markomann you won't even know it

Maybe Annika is cucking her husband

No way

yep shes shagging Bluemonday

lol

Oof

and harvesting all the delicious incel attention

but to be fair shes pretty good for a woman

imagine being with a girl that _dates_

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-warhammer-40k-gif-9829547

a bit male brained

Dating is degen

Never date

https://youtu.be/a8jE82dyHl0 Man what kinda shit are they teaching teenagers?

Take woman and marry her

This show is aimed at teens FYI

Don't date

GRUG MODE

https://youtu.be/4YUrUpv3NSw?t=11 @Billy Ray

marko but she was not all that bad

Just buy an obedient trophy wife from Asia

Just buy a GF

No mixing

anti-nickers MAD

from asia?

bruh

HOES MAD

today is good day

for you

Nick Fuentes is gonna blow up after this

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