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2020-01-23 16:40:23 UTC

Nice to see you, me.

2020-01-23 16:40:40 UTC

Did Wirus invade us yet

2020-01-23 16:40:41 UTC

my last pp was from the diablo 4 trailer

2020-01-23 16:40:42 UTC

which is self-refuting as you say the word "theory"

2020-01-23 16:40:54 UTC

hence its really unclear whether is any truth at all

2020-01-23 16:40:56 UTC

Wirussian Invasion from China

2020-01-23 16:40:57 UTC

you don't accept it

2020-01-23 16:41:18 UTC

When the Jooze have connected every corner of the Earth together

2020-01-23 16:41:23 UTC

Are we ever safe from the Wirusses

2020-01-23 16:42:05 UTC

hypo, hypo

2020-01-23 16:42:37 UTC

this was the only time i heard an anarchist arguing for something

2020-01-23 16:42:42 UTC

and it sounded fucking retarded to me

2020-01-23 16:42:53 UTC

Adam Kokesh is a Jew

2020-01-23 16:42:55 UTC

Psyop to discredit libertarianism

2020-01-23 16:43:11 UTC

andy kokesh is a middling iq tribesman

2020-01-23 16:43:13 UTC

The Libertarian Party is a disgrace full of Jews and glows

2020-01-23 16:43:16 UTC

always the pointless debates ...
can't just one guy explain his point of view and the other asks his stupid questions for clarity?

2020-01-23 16:43:36 UTC

Well libertarianism is relativistic and lacking standards in any form, so i dont know how he can discredit it but

2020-01-23 16:43:48 UTC

It isnt relativistic

2020-01-23 16:43:58 UTC

the standards come from the economic agents

2020-01-23 16:44:00 UTC

liberty is relativistic in nature

2020-01-23 16:44:03 UTC

and property owners themselves

2020-01-23 16:44:06 UTC

it's arbitrary

2020-01-23 16:44:14 UTC

No

2020-01-23 16:44:16 UTC

like any fucking theory you can come up with

2020-01-23 16:44:20 UTC

License is relativistic

2020-01-23 16:44:25 UTC

now make an actual argument

2020-01-23 16:44:54 UTC

It being relativistic doesn't make it arbitrary

2020-01-23 16:45:00 UTC

We assume humans do better with as little monopoly restraints as possible

2020-01-23 16:45:02 UTC

but it makes it chaotic in nature

2020-01-23 16:45:10 UTC

The Market tends to be chaotic

2020-01-23 16:45:13 UTC

Ordered Chaos

2020-01-23 16:45:33 UTC

But the chaos is mostly present during recalibration periods

2020-01-23 16:45:43 UTC

Which are necessary to keep things running smoothly

2020-01-23 16:46:04 UTC

Too much order gives stagnation

2020-01-23 16:47:56 UTC

did jf cbs interview come out yet?

2020-01-23 16:48:02 UTC

Chaos seems to be the many seemingly many different directions that economic agents take, being confusing for the central planner. Why aren't they all take the exact same direction, the direction I want them to take

2020-01-23 16:48:03 UTC

Nope

2020-01-23 16:48:08 UTC

Its coming in a few weeks

2020-01-23 16:48:15 UTC

Maybe 2 months kek

2020-01-23 16:48:27 UTC

There is no standards for the common good, Its basically today's society there is really no difference

2020-01-23 16:48:34 UTC

no. maybe in a couple months, if ever @Henryโ€™s come to see us!

2020-01-23 16:48:39 UTC

Nope

2020-01-23 16:48:46 UTC

dang

2020-01-23 16:48:47 UTC

Our society has common good principles

2020-01-23 16:48:50 UTC

They're just bad

2020-01-23 16:48:56 UTC

The common good of our society is

2020-01-23 16:48:57 UTC

Equality

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Diversity

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Tolerance

2020-01-23 16:49:14 UTC

You cant have common good if you believe that people should be doing only things that benefit them as individuals

2020-01-23 16:49:15 UTC

How more we get of these, and their assorted policies, how better for all of us

2020-01-23 16:49:21 UTC

But we dont believe that

2020-01-23 16:49:41 UTC

thats the basis of liberty pretty much

2020-01-23 16:49:42 UTC

We for example believe companies should hire blacks or whamens even if its better for them not to

2020-01-23 16:49:59 UTC

It doesnt benefit those who run the company

2020-01-23 16:50:01 UTC

and that is a lack of standards

2020-01-23 16:50:05 UTC

but it does benefit the BLACKS and WHAMENS

2020-01-23 16:50:06 UTC

no

2020-01-23 16:50:09 UTC

that is standards

2020-01-23 16:50:13 UTC

but the standards are bad

2020-01-23 16:50:25 UTC

They operate on the wrong premises

2020-01-23 16:50:26 UTC

bad standards indeed

2020-01-23 16:50:34 UTC

which is again

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the idea that more equality, diversity, tolerance etc is better for the common good

2020-01-23 16:51:10 UTC

there is no basis

2020-01-23 16:51:16 UTC

It must be understood that they try to convince even whites that its good for them that they get replaced

2020-01-23 16:51:36 UTC

And the more stupid of the lunatics probably believe it too kek

2020-01-23 16:51:42 UTC

Ur privilege is bad for you, makes you bad

2020-01-23 16:51:45 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/669947394837708800/150px-MaxStirner1.png

2020-01-23 16:51:49 UTC

If you believe Its better for them not hire blacks and wahmen

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More ungood

2020-01-23 16:51:55 UTC

In a free order

2020-01-23 16:52:01 UTC

than thats a universal standard

2020-01-23 16:52:06 UTC

If you dont wanna hire blacks and women, nobody can force you

2020-01-23 16:52:09 UTC

how can you have that with liberty

2020-01-23 16:52:17 UTC

You set the standards

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Within the limits of your domain aka property

2020-01-23 16:52:54 UTC

And as adjacent properties influence each other, we will notice standards effecting the standards of others

2020-01-23 16:52:58 UTC

then there is no standards for a common good, Its the standards for you. Egoism at its core pretty much and no reason to care about race or the nation or anything for that matter

2020-01-23 16:53:11 UTC

Theres reasons to care about race or the nation

2020-01-23 16:53:17 UTC

even if for your own good

2020-01-23 16:53:28 UTC

like idk, you dont wanna live in a Detroit

2020-01-23 16:53:54 UTC

Its not like its good for us individuals that our race is destroyed

2020-01-23 16:54:02 UTC

South African individual whites arent doing well

2020-01-23 16:54:08 UTC

If they affect the standards of others there is no liberty because you are bound by the standards of others

2020-01-23 16:54:20 UTC

There are people who dont care about their race

2020-01-23 16:54:21 UTC

Not bound necessarily

2020-01-23 16:54:27 UTC

They will get wiped out than lol

2020-01-23 16:54:34 UTC

If not caring about your race is bad

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for you

2020-01-23 16:54:44 UTC

@Hector do you play videojuegos?

2020-01-23 16:54:45 UTC

They can fuck anybody and still count it as continuation of their lineage

2020-01-23 16:54:50 UTC

Heres the thing, I care about race. That being said, I donโ€™t support being unethical

2020-01-23 16:54:56 UTC

Possibly

2020-01-23 16:55:02 UTC

They can fuck themselves over

2020-01-23 16:55:08 UTC

And we can say

2020-01-23 16:55:14 UTC

Race traitors arent allowed in our property

2020-01-23 16:55:15 UTC

shoo

2020-01-23 16:55:46 UTC

Hoppe predicts that cosmopolitan communities will probably self-implode pretty quick

2020-01-23 16:56:02 UTC

Lmao. Why are you talking about that and not the construction of a state that will aid you in it?

2020-01-23 16:56:07 UTC

If they survive long enough they will simply super segregate

2020-01-23 16:56:16 UTC

The state is a powerful tool and its mandatory

2020-01-23 16:56:17 UTC

@Nerthulas Do I play video games, not really. Maybe, if I am stress or procrastinating, i will play a flash game or two.

But typically, reading or watching debates is my favorite pass time.

2020-01-23 16:56:17 UTC

The state will eventually betray us

2020-01-23 16:56:23 UTC

Okay lolbert

2020-01-23 16:56:28 UTC

We wont stay in control of the state

2020-01-23 16:56:31 UTC

I used to be an ancap

2020-01-23 16:56:32 UTC

I do want to become a competent writer one day though.

2020-01-23 16:56:34 UTC

We lost the state in every country

2020-01-23 16:56:46 UTC

Every single one of our states we lost

2020-01-23 16:56:57 UTC

those sound boring wtf

2020-01-23 16:56:59 UTC

And its threatening our destruction

2020-01-23 16:57:05 UTC

And they will not allow ancapistan to exist

2020-01-23 16:57:22 UTC

Its not they

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Its the people

2020-01-23 16:57:43 UTC

Plus, if it takes 300-400 years to subvert a continent, then that is good

2020-01-23 16:57:54 UTC

With liberty

2020-01-23 16:57:56 UTC

Civilizational cycles can be reset

2020-01-23 16:57:57 UTC

it will take forever

2020-01-23 16:58:02 UTC

No it wonโ€™t

2020-01-23 16:58:06 UTC

Theres no central entity to take over

2020-01-23 16:58:20 UTC

It takes 300-400 years to take the core of your civilization, the state

2020-01-23 16:58:30 UTC

You seriously think China wonโ€™t nuke you and steal your unclaimed land?

2020-01-23 16:58:32 UTC

If a people have a will to secede and fight, they have the will to fight and take it back

2020-01-23 16:58:35 UTC

What about dont have 1 core that gets taken over and you fall

2020-01-23 16:58:41 UTC

Ancaps still have to fight

2020-01-23 16:58:42 UTC

Lol

2020-01-23 16:58:46 UTC

There is no alternative to fighting

2020-01-23 16:58:47 UTC

@Nerthulas most people would describe me as vanilla. I do like to shop and do some social events too. But shopping and eating out requires money, which I do not have a lot of. I enjoy grabbing a cup of coffee and walking with a colleague around my city.

2020-01-23 16:59:01 UTC

Amerimutts have far too much weaponry to allow ching chongs to do anything

2020-01-23 16:59:24 UTC

Also

2020-01-23 16:59:25 UTC

if china ever makes a move towards the west

2020-01-23 16:59:28 UTC

Only reason China is a menace

2020-01-23 16:59:28 UTC

it will be for annihilation

2020-01-23 16:59:29 UTC

JF should invite this guest of Rekieta Law to talk about Male abuse

2020-01-23 16:59:31 UTC

not conquest

2020-01-23 16:59:31 UTC

This guy

2020-01-23 16:59:36 UTC

married a crazy

2020-01-23 16:59:38 UTC

The thing is, I want a state to force my ideals on people

2020-01-23 16:59:41 UTC

is because Jews took over the state and started doing deals

2020-01-23 16:59:45 UTC

pumped two kids that weren't his

2020-01-23 16:59:52 UTC

and he had to pay child support

2020-01-23 16:59:55 UTC

Look

2020-01-23 17:00:01 UTC

If people dont want to accept your ideals

2020-01-23 17:00:01 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/669949474168242196/iu.png

2020-01-23 17:00:02 UTC

it wont work

2020-01-23 17:00:05 UTC

Why would you not force others to live in your society?

2020-01-23 17:00:11 UTC

if my society is so great

2020-01-23 17:00:15 UTC

why do I need to force them to

2020-01-23 17:00:27 UTC

because like you , people would rather not fight

2020-01-23 17:00:29 UTC

Are we forcing invaders to invade our countries? no because they are great

2020-01-23 17:00:34 UTC

but fighting is needed at some point

2020-01-23 17:00:41 UTC

No

2020-01-23 17:00:44 UTC

yes

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We will fight to maintain our privileges

2020-01-23 17:00:51 UTC

you will not be left alone

2020-01-23 17:00:53 UTC

Its necessary

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all I want is a state the doesnโ€™t incentivize destructive behavior

2020-01-23 17:00:56 UTC

Well we know

2020-01-23 17:01:01 UTC

so either you rule or are ruled

2020-01-23 17:01:05 UTC

duhh why ya think we want heavy weapons

2020-01-23 17:01:33 UTC

Private individuals can assemble armies more efficient than central tards can

2020-01-23 17:01:40 UTC

mekel kasanova? @โ€Rare Birbโ€

2020-01-23 17:01:45 UTC

the state is probably more necessary at higher population density

2020-01-23 17:01:45 UTC

if you think you can fight against states for ancap independence, you can also fight for any other kind of independence. ancap isn't a revolutionary advantage in any way

2020-01-23 17:01:46 UTC

Central tards just have more resources to parasite

2020-01-23 17:01:53 UTC

Sure

2020-01-23 17:02:00 UTC

Art, I live a minority white town, but we have nice things still, like a nice art museum. I would like to take a girl there one day. What do you do? @Nerthulas

2020-01-23 17:02:08 UTC

Ancap may not even work with anyone but lets say Whites

2020-01-23 17:02:22 UTC

The case must be made to each people, what will work best

2020-01-23 17:02:33 UTC

idk i mostly sleep

2020-01-23 17:02:46 UTC

Whites have until recently progressed towards more decentralization and more liberty

2020-01-23 17:02:52 UTC

Last week, I walked 5 miles to my library, went to Whataburger and got a iced tea, then back.

2020-01-23 17:02:54 UTC

This trend has been reversed

2020-01-23 17:03:08 UTC

It began with the American and French Revolutions

2020-01-23 17:03:20 UTC

Fact is Feudalism is more decentralized than these Federal entities are

2020-01-23 17:03:36 UTC

it hasn't been liberty qua liberty, the kind of sovereignty that the founding fathers and stock have idealized isn't "everyone does whatever they want lamo"

2020-01-23 17:03:39 UTC

I do feel quite lonely sometimes. I can't wait to finish getting my degree, so I can start making money and start seeing women seriously.

2020-01-23 17:03:40 UTC

i live in suburbia but I like spending time at the ranch

2020-01-23 17:04:01 UTC

The Founding Fathers wanted to protect liberty

2020-01-23 17:04:04 UTC

they label it as such for, well, propaganda purposes but really the intent is to have standing militias in every state forcing eachother to pay the costs for rule

2020-01-23 17:04:05 UTC

with an entity

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that has every tool and incentive to destroy said liberty

2020-01-23 17:04:15 UTC

and with frens, usually with frens I will play games

2020-01-23 17:04:22 UTC

Thats the contradiction of liberalism

2020-01-23 17:04:32 UTC

sovereingty (every man a sheriff and contributing to mutual defense) and not liberty (you're free to contribute or not)

2020-01-23 17:04:43 UTC

board games or pc games or bowling or bocce or something

2020-01-23 17:04:43 UTC

My best friend moved recently. : ( He was an IT major with a minor in physics. We could talk for hours.

2020-01-23 17:04:51 UTC

Well everyone is sovereign under liberty

2020-01-23 17:04:57 UTC
2020-01-23 17:04:58 UTC

nope

2020-01-23 17:04:59 UTC

the guest

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Yes

2020-01-23 17:05:10 UTC

wait I'll give you the timestamp of the video

2020-01-23 17:05:16 UTC

@Chawosaurian the problem comes of having standards in general. Liberty implies that you should be doing anything as you please, including infringing on others property. Sure you might say thats not how it works, but thats the basis of conflict. If Im not allow to go inside any place I want then I dont really have liberty. It automatically becomes authorative. Also there is a problem of ownership as a whole, what dictates that my land is my own? Nothing, because I set those standards. So if someone comes and kills me if there is no state or monolopoly and my right of life is infringed with the will of someone else. There are no standards in this system, unlike say mornarchy of fascism which give out a common GOOD standard for everyone to follow

2020-01-23 17:05:21 UTC

I don't usually talk with my friends about their academics

2020-01-23 17:05:21 UTC

No

2020-01-23 17:05:25 UTC

if you do not exert force and contribute to mutual defense (or, personal defense even), you're not sovereign in any way

2020-01-23 17:05:29 UTC

Liberty does not include infringing other peoples property

2020-01-23 17:05:38 UTC

you're living at the license of those who may kill you if they wish

2020-01-23 17:05:42 UTC

ok

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That type of liberty is self-contradictory

2020-01-23 17:05:54 UTC

well it does include denying others the possibility of killing you

2020-01-23 17:06:00 UTC

Its not

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Theres still authority in a way

2020-01-23 17:06:04 UTC

My friend and I almost never talk about academics. We talk about our hobbies. We like reading together and reading things together.

2020-01-23 17:06:10 UTC

but its not through central monopolist

2020-01-23 17:06:12 UTC

it is not about your liberty ***to***
it is about our liberty to say ***fuck off***

2020-01-23 17:06:16 UTC

We would try to learn to cook sometimes. XD

2020-01-23 17:06:26 UTC

the owner of each property, is the authority there

2020-01-23 17:06:34 UTC

start watching at 1:23:57

2020-01-23 17:06:36 UTC

reading together...? what does that mean?

2020-01-23 17:06:36 UTC

the only thing society can reasonably provide are defensive rights

2020-01-23 17:06:42 UTC

thnx birb

2020-01-23 17:06:49 UTC

it's not contradictory. look. people need defense. people coalesce and delegate defense to one another. these groups are the sovereign. they confer liberty to all.

2020-01-23 17:06:53 UTC

Like, we would go to the library and just read in each other's presence.

2020-01-23 17:07:02 UTC

Until then its ok

2020-01-23 17:07:03 UTC

The founding material is all addressed to sovereign men

2020-01-23 17:07:05 UTC

๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ

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if im not allowed to do w/e i want there is no personal standards, no liberty or anything at all

2020-01-23 17:07:10 UTC

The thing is the jump

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it's not to women, children, underclassed

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it becomes okay some people band together to protect everyone

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but than

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a jump is made

2020-01-23 17:07:27 UTC

>being in the presence of another male

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they make sure that nobody else can do that same function

2020-01-23 17:07:31 UTC

L O L

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Nobody else can protect

2020-01-23 17:07:51 UTC

well, you're free to become sovereign, all you have to do is demonstrate ability and contribute-to, mutual defense

2020-01-23 17:07:58 UTC

Thats fine

2020-01-23 17:08:03 UTC

until then you're not

2020-01-23 17:08:06 UTC

you're living under license

2020-01-23 17:08:24 UTC

either you're a peer in sovereignty and thus sovereign yourself or you're not

2020-01-23 17:08:32 UTC

Hmm

2020-01-23 17:08:42 UTC

Some things I do with my other friends is just drive to the store and window shop. But I don't feel close to anyone irl right now outside my immediate family. I mainly just look around.

2020-01-23 17:08:43 UTC

So liberty allows it but doesn't mean someone will be sovereign

2020-01-23 17:08:55 UTC

yeah.

2020-01-23 17:08:57 UTC

One can decide just to live under others

2020-01-23 17:09:03 UTC

Just get outside the house, you know. Say hi to people.

2020-01-23 17:09:04 UTC

you can. and that's fine

2020-01-23 17:09:15 UTC

Not everyone is really made for leadership

2020-01-23 17:09:17 UTC

or you cannot and that's wrong

2020-01-23 17:09:30 UTC

true to guilt by association btw Hoppe is just another Juden Peterson

2020-01-23 17:09:33 UTC

We hope that this automaticaly selects for the best leaders

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