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Nice to see you, me.
Did Wirus invade us yet
my last pp was from the diablo 4 trailer
which is self-refuting as you say the word "theory"
hence its really unclear whether is any truth at all
Wirussian Invasion from China
you don't accept it
When the Jooze have connected every corner of the Earth together
Are we ever safe from the Wirusses
hypo, hypo
this was the only time i heard an anarchist arguing for something
and it sounded fucking retarded to me
Adam Kokesh is a Jew
Psyop to discredit libertarianism
andy kokesh is a middling iq tribesman
The Libertarian Party is a disgrace full of Jews and glows
always the pointless debates ...
can't just one guy explain his point of view and the other asks his stupid questions for clarity?
Well libertarianism is relativistic and lacking standards in any form, so i dont know how he can discredit it but
It isnt relativistic
the standards come from the economic agents
liberty is relativistic in nature
and property owners themselves
it's arbitrary
No
like any fucking theory you can come up with
License is relativistic
now make an actual argument
It being relativistic doesn't make it arbitrary
We assume humans do better with as little monopoly restraints as possible
but it makes it chaotic in nature
The Market tends to be chaotic
Ordered Chaos
But the chaos is mostly present during recalibration periods
Which are necessary to keep things running smoothly
Too much order gives stagnation
did jf cbs interview come out yet?
Chaos seems to be the many seemingly many different directions that economic agents take, being confusing for the central planner. Why aren't they all take the exact same direction, the direction I want them to take
Nope
Its coming in a few weeks
Maybe 2 months kek
There is no standards for the common good, Its basically today's society there is really no difference
no. maybe in a couple months, if ever @Henryโs come to see us!
Nope
dang
Our society has common good principles
They're just bad
The common good of our society is
Equality
Diversity
Tolerance
You cant have common good if you believe that people should be doing only things that benefit them as individuals
How more we get of these, and their assorted policies, how better for all of us
But we dont believe that
thats the basis of liberty pretty much
We for example believe companies should hire blacks or whamens even if its better for them not to
It doesnt benefit those who run the company
and that is a lack of standards
but it does benefit the BLACKS and WHAMENS
no
that is standards
but the standards are bad
They operate on the wrong premises
bad standards indeed
which is again
the idea that more equality, diversity, tolerance etc is better for the common good
there is no basis
It must be understood that they try to convince even whites that its good for them that they get replaced
And the more stupid of the lunatics probably believe it too kek
Ur privilege is bad for you, makes you bad
If you believe Its better for them not hire blacks and wahmen
More ungood
In a free order
than thats a universal standard
If you dont wanna hire blacks and women, nobody can force you
how can you have that with liberty
You set the standards
Within the limits of your domain aka property
And as adjacent properties influence each other, we will notice standards effecting the standards of others
then there is no standards for a common good, Its the standards for you. Egoism at its core pretty much and no reason to care about race or the nation or anything for that matter
Theres reasons to care about race or the nation
even if for your own good
like idk, you dont wanna live in a Detroit
Its not like its good for us individuals that our race is destroyed
South African individual whites arent doing well
If they affect the standards of others there is no liberty because you are bound by the standards of others
There are people who dont care about their race
Not bound necessarily
They will get wiped out than lol
If not caring about your race is bad
for you
They can fuck anybody and still count it as continuation of their lineage
Heres the thing, I care about race. That being said, I donโt support being unethical
Possibly
They can fuck themselves over
And we can say
Race traitors arent allowed in our property
shoo
Hoppe predicts that cosmopolitan communities will probably self-implode pretty quick
Lmao. Why are you talking about that and not the construction of a state that will aid you in it?
If they survive long enough they will simply super segregate
The state is a powerful tool and its mandatory
@Nerthulas Do I play video games, not really. Maybe, if I am stress or procrastinating, i will play a flash game or two.
But typically, reading or watching debates is my favorite pass time.
The state will eventually betray us
Okay lolbert
We wont stay in control of the state
I used to be an ancap
I do want to become a competent writer one day though.
We lost the state in every country
Every single one of our states we lost
those sound boring wtf
And its threatening our destruction
And they will not allow ancapistan to exist
Its not they
Its the people
Plus, if it takes 300-400 years to subvert a continent, then that is good
With liberty
Civilizational cycles can be reset
it will take forever
No it wonโt
Theres no central entity to take over
It takes 300-400 years to take the core of your civilization, the state
You seriously think China wonโt nuke you and steal your unclaimed land?
If a people have a will to secede and fight, they have the will to fight and take it back
What about dont have 1 core that gets taken over and you fall
Ancaps still have to fight
Lol
There is no alternative to fighting
@Nerthulas most people would describe me as vanilla. I do like to shop and do some social events too. But shopping and eating out requires money, which I do not have a lot of. I enjoy grabbing a cup of coffee and walking with a colleague around my city.
Amerimutts have far too much weaponry to allow ching chongs to do anything
Also
if china ever makes a move towards the west
Only reason China is a menace
it will be for annihilation
JF should invite this guest of Rekieta Law to talk about Male abuse
not conquest
This guy
married a crazy
The thing is, I want a state to force my ideals on people
is because Jews took over the state and started doing deals
pumped two kids that weren't his
and he had to pay child support
Look
If people dont want to accept your ideals
it wont work
Why would you not force others to live in your society?
if my society is so great
why do I need to force them to
because like you , people would rather not fight
Are we forcing invaders to invade our countries? no because they are great
but fighting is needed at some point
No
yes
We will fight to maintain our privileges
you will not be left alone
Its necessary
all I want is a state the doesnโt incentivize destructive behavior
Well we know
so either you rule or are ruled
duhh why ya think we want heavy weapons
Private individuals can assemble armies more efficient than central tards can
mekel kasanova? @โRare Birbโ
the state is probably more necessary at higher population density
if you think you can fight against states for ancap independence, you can also fight for any other kind of independence. ancap isn't a revolutionary advantage in any way
Central tards just have more resources to parasite
Sure
Art, I live a minority white town, but we have nice things still, like a nice art museum. I would like to take a girl there one day. What do you do? @Nerthulas
Ancap may not even work with anyone but lets say Whites
The case must be made to each people, what will work best
idk i mostly sleep
Whites have until recently progressed towards more decentralization and more liberty
Last week, I walked 5 miles to my library, went to Whataburger and got a iced tea, then back.
This trend has been reversed
It began with the American and French Revolutions
Fact is Feudalism is more decentralized than these Federal entities are
it hasn't been liberty qua liberty, the kind of sovereignty that the founding fathers and stock have idealized isn't "everyone does whatever they want lamo"
I do feel quite lonely sometimes. I can't wait to finish getting my degree, so I can start making money and start seeing women seriously.
i live in suburbia but I like spending time at the ranch
The Founding Fathers wanted to protect liberty
they label it as such for, well, propaganda purposes but really the intent is to have standing militias in every state forcing eachother to pay the costs for rule
with an entity
that has every tool and incentive to destroy said liberty
and with frens, usually with frens I will play games
Thats the contradiction of liberalism
sovereingty (every man a sheriff and contributing to mutual defense) and not liberty (you're free to contribute or not)
board games or pc games or bowling or bocce or something
My best friend moved recently. : ( He was an IT major with a minor in physics. We could talk for hours.
Well everyone is sovereign under liberty
@Str3tch uh
nope
the guest
Yes
wait I'll give you the timestamp of the video
@Chawosaurian the problem comes of having standards in general. Liberty implies that you should be doing anything as you please, including infringing on others property. Sure you might say thats not how it works, but thats the basis of conflict. If Im not allow to go inside any place I want then I dont really have liberty. It automatically becomes authorative. Also there is a problem of ownership as a whole, what dictates that my land is my own? Nothing, because I set those standards. So if someone comes and kills me if there is no state or monolopoly and my right of life is infringed with the will of someone else. There are no standards in this system, unlike say mornarchy of fascism which give out a common GOOD standard for everyone to follow
I don't usually talk with my friends about their academics
No
if you do not exert force and contribute to mutual defense (or, personal defense even), you're not sovereign in any way
Liberty does not include infringing other peoples property
you're living at the license of those who may kill you if they wish
ok
That type of liberty is self-contradictory
well it does include denying others the possibility of killing you
Its not
Theres still authority in a way
My friend and I almost never talk about academics. We talk about our hobbies. We like reading together and reading things together.
but its not through central monopolist
it is not about your liberty ***to***
it is about our liberty to say ***fuck off***
We would try to learn to cook sometimes. XD
the owner of each property, is the authority there
start watching at 1:23:57
reading together...? what does that mean?
the only thing society can reasonably provide are defensive rights
thnx birb
it's not contradictory. look. people need defense. people coalesce and delegate defense to one another. these groups are the sovereign. they confer liberty to all.
Like, we would go to the library and just read in each other's presence.
Until then its ok
The founding material is all addressed to sovereign men
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if im not allowed to do w/e i want there is no personal standards, no liberty or anything at all
The thing is the jump
it's not to women, children, underclassed
it becomes okay some people band together to protect everyone
but than
a jump is made
>being in the presence of another male
they make sure that nobody else can do that same function
L O L
Nobody else can protect
well, you're free to become sovereign, all you have to do is demonstrate ability and contribute-to, mutual defense
Thats fine
until then you're not
you're living under license
either you're a peer in sovereignty and thus sovereign yourself or you're not
Hmm
Some things I do with my other friends is just drive to the store and window shop. But I don't feel close to anyone irl right now outside my immediate family. I mainly just look around.
So liberty allows it but doesn't mean someone will be sovereign
yeah.
One can decide just to live under others
Just get outside the house, you know. Say hi to people.
you can. and that's fine
Not everyone is really made for leadership
or you cannot and that's wrong
true to guilt by association btw Hoppe is just another Juden Peterson
We hope that this automaticaly selects for the best leaders
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