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2018-01-30 02:26:38 UTC

"It will sort itself out, because reasons"

2018-01-30 02:26:43 UTC

Ah, no.

2018-01-30 02:27:45 UTC

EGALITARIANISM - This central dogma of Western ideologies stems from a secularisation of Judaeo-Christian claims that all men are in essence equal, atoms of moral, political, and social equivalence — and that equality needs to be realised in fact.

-Egalitarianism is the trunk root of the dominant ideology. It is the source of all modern totalitarianisms, as well as the decadence of so-called liberal, democratic societies. It’s based on a pathological refusal to accept the inegalitarian nature of human societies — that is, it’s a utopian revolt against life itself. Egalitarianism derives from Judaeo-Christian individualism — or, said more exactly, it’s a perversion and secularisation of this individualism. We shouldn’t forget, though, that the egalitarian virus is also found in non-Christian conceptions of the world and that Medieval Christianity knew how to protect itself from it

Judaeo-Christianity presupposes that men as individuals are equal before God, that this equality is superior to their differences, to objective inequalities and ethnic attachments. This purely theological and metaphysical view of the world was secularised by the Enlightenment — allegedly ‘anti-Christian’, but in actuality ‘post-Christian’.

2018-01-30 02:37:44 UTC

EMPIRE, IMPERIAL FEDERATION - The political unification of diverse but related peoples under a common sovereign authority, which leaves each individual people autonomous and free.

A federated empire is united, but not blindly homogenised, like the egalitarian nation-state. It revolves around the function of sovereignty, while preserving the diversity of its other functions. Its existence is legitimated by the power and longevity of its peoples, federated within a political and historical community. The empire’s vocation is not to become a ‘World State’, like Islam or the American System, but instead embraces and guides the destiny of those peoples who historically, culturally, and ethnically feel themselves to be part of the same general community.

There’s also a negative conception — a suicidal conception — of empire. This is the model of the late Roman Empire, following the edicts of Caracalla[135] (who granted Roman citizenship to all the Empire’s subjects, whatever their origins); this is the model of Alexander, who sought a single ensemble of Greeks and Orientals; this is also the model of Europe’s former colonial empires, which is today colonising Europe itself. The ethnopluralist, multi-racial model of empire must be rejected, for it inevitably stirs up internal dissension and, ultimately, ends up destroying the empire’s founding stock.

2018-01-30 02:43:18 UTC

that's my water boiling

2018-01-30 02:43:21 UTC

sorry lol

2018-01-30 02:44:20 UTC

Yeah I had the flu 2 weeks ago too.

2018-01-30 02:46:04 UTC

ENROOTMENT - Attachment to a land, to a hereditary heritage, and to an identity that is the motor of all historical dynamism.

Enrootment opposes cosmopolitanism, cultural mixing, and the ethnic chaos of present-day civilisation. The concept, however, is ‘slippery’, because it easily leads to certain misunderstandings. European enrootment is never an attachment to the past or to immobility. Instead, it links the ancestral heritage with creation. It shouldn’t be understood, then, in the way a museum has us understand it, which neutralises a people’s identity by freezing it in nostalgic memory. The notion of enrootment complements that of ‘disinstallation’, explained above. Enrootment is the preservation of roots, based on the knowledge that the tree must continue to grow. Roots are what live: they engender the tree and permit its growth.

2018-01-30 02:51:56 UTC

ETHNOCENTRISM - The mobilising conviction, distinct to all long-living peoples, that they belong to something superior and that they must conserve their ethnic identity, if they are to endure in history.

Whether it’s ‘objectively’ true or false doesn’t matter: ethnocentrism is the psychological condition necessary to a people’s (or nation’s) survival. History is not a field in which intellectually objective principles are worked out, but one conditioned by the will to power, competition, and selection. Scholastic disputes about a people’s superiority or inferiority are beside the point. In the struggle for survival, the feeling of being superior and right is indispensable to acting and succeeding.

2018-01-30 02:59:42 UTC

ETHNOMASOCHIM - The masochistic tendency to blame and devalue one’s ethnicity, one’s own people. Ethnomasochism comes from shame and self-hatred.

It’s a collective psychopathology, provoked by a concerted propaganda campaign to make Europeans feel guilty about how they’ve treated other peoples and to make them see themselves as ‘oppressors’. They are made, in this way, to repent and pay their alleged debt. A veritable historical imposture, their repentance, no less, is urged by the churches and the state.

2018-01-30 03:17:19 UTC

EUGENICS - A technique for improving the genetic quality of a population.

Biotechnologies and genetic engineering today furnish the technical and practical means of improving the human genome, not solely for therapeutic reasons, but for political ones as well. Biotechnology now makes it possible to practice a positive eugenics that directly intervenes in the genome to improve heredity, doing so more effectively and rapidly than older techniques based on selection by marriage.

2018-01-30 03:17:43 UTC

Good stuff.

2018-01-30 03:17:50 UTC

Been in favor of it since I was a kid.

2018-01-30 03:18:20 UTC

We did.

2018-01-30 03:18:25 UTC

We had it here.

2018-01-30 03:18:40 UTC

Then we stopped after the Nazis gave it a bad name.

2018-01-30 03:21:04 UTC

Oh you totally have to have abortion for blacks and hispanics and undesirable whites.

2018-01-30 03:35:47 UTC

GENOPOLITICS - Genopolitics[147] (in Greek, genos means race or people), like ethnocracy, is based on the conservation of the genos, on the promotion of the healthy, the protection of the environment, and on the overcoming of the Homo oeconomicus, the commercial society and all forms of mercantilism.

2018-01-30 03:36:01 UTC

GERMEN A people’s or civilisation’s biological root — the core of ethnicity — upon which everything else rests.

2018-01-30 03:37:42 UTC

HAPPINESS, ‘SMALL PLEASURES’ - A secularised version, converted into social and economic objectives, of the heavenly ideal inspiring the salvation religions.

Small pleasures (petit bonheur) for everyone — to satisfy the material demands of one’s living standard — has become the formal goal of Western ideology. But happiness, even well-being, is not to be found in this market of dupes. Never have suicide rates been higher.

Defined strictly in terms of economic and materialistic wellbeing, these small pleasures falsely presume that all human beings aspire to the same ideal of quantitative consumption. This purely passive objective, entailing a people’s domestication, despises the spiritual, historical, and cultural requirements of an individual’s inner sense of well-being. It destroys communal solidarity. It excludes everything that cannot be attained through a certain ‘material level of life’. Its massified individual knows, as such, only anguish and insecurity in a society promising heaven on Earth. The frenzied search for material well-being, socially sanctioned but never attained, is leading to what Konrad Lorenz[151] called the ‘warm death’, which softens and undermines a civilisation.

2018-01-30 03:51:53 UTC

HUMANITARIANISM The professed love of all humans regardless of distinction — and the affirmation of our alleged duty to assist the oppressed, hungry, or ill, etc.

Humanitarianism is a delinquent and disfigured humanism. It comes from a sort of systematic pity for the ‘Other’ and an indifference to the ‘Next’. It’s an exacerbation of what was formerly called ‘philanthropy’ and a hypocritical secularisation of Christian ‘charity’. In this sense, it comes from xenophilia and legitimises, as such, ‘foreign preferences’ that discriminate in favour of aliens. Humanitarianism demonstrates mass support for illegal immigrants and assists victims of massacres and civil wars in faraway places (for which it feels responsible), yet at the same time it’s utterly indifferent to the poverty and precariousness of native Europeans. It’s scandalised by the deportation of Albanians, but not the deportation of Serbs. It condemns Russia’s war against the Chechens, but not the Chechen war against Russia or the AngloAmerican bombing of Iraq, ect.

2018-01-30 03:56:49 UTC

IDENTITY - Etymologically: ‘That which makes singular’. A people’s identity is what makes it incomparable and irreplaceable.

Characteristic of humanity is the diversity and singularity of its many peoples and cultures. Every form of its homogenisation is synonymous with death, as well as with sclerosis and entropy. Universalism always seeks to marginalise identity in the name of a single, unique anthropological model. But ethnic and cultural identities form a bloc: maintaining and developing the cultural heritage presupposes a people’s ethnic commonality. Humanity will not survive the challenges it’s generating if it remains a pluriversum, that is, if it remains a fractious aggravation of profoundly different ethnocentric peoples. Look: identity’s basis is biological; without it, the realms of culture and civilisation are unsustainable. Said differently: a people’s identity, memory, and projects come from a specific hereditary disposition.

2018-01-30 03:57:20 UTC

INVOLUTION - The regression of a civilisation or species to maladaptive forms that lead to the
diminishment of its vital forces.
We are presently endangered by a grave involution, particularly in culture. This is due not simply to
the spread of pop culture, of which America is the principal distributor, but also to the Africanisation
of European culture and to the Islamic invasion. Cultural involution has also been stimulated by the
decline of National Education (40% of adolescents are now partially or completely illiterate), the
regression of knowledge, the collapse of social norms, the immersion of youth in a world of
audio/visual play, the progression of neo-primitivism, the loss of defensive reflexes, etc.

2018-01-30 04:02:10 UTC

Gotta run, later guys.

2018-01-30 04:17:15 UTC

MENTAL AIDS - The collapse of a people’s immune system in the face of its decadence and its enemies.

Louis Pauwels[177] coined the term in the 1980s and it set off a media scandal — for it pointed at a painful truth (in general, the more the neo-totalitarian system is scandalised by an idea and demonises it, the more likely it’s true). AIDS comes from a retrovirus that destroys an organism’s immune system. ‘Mental AIDS’ is an infection of a psychological nature that affects virtually all the ‘elites’ — the political class, the media class, show business, the ‘cultural’ community, ‘artists’, filmmakers — inclining them to oppose the interests of their own people and to advocate degenerate values as if they were actually ones of regeneration. A people, a nation, a civilisation — at the most complex, holistic level — is a living organism. European societies today are menaced by the collapse of their immunological defences: aggressions in this vein are not combated but encouraged. Faced with an evident danger, we’re witnessing a morbid case of anti-opportunity: that is, at the very moment when measures of anti-pathological defence are most needed, exactly the opposite is being called for — which, of course, simply reinforces the pathology’s progression.

2018-01-30 07:01:19 UTC

Mental Aids was one of my favorite terms when I read that book

2018-01-30 18:47:17 UTC

Haha yeah. We were laughing about it last night.

2018-02-06 00:17:50 UTC

Felt like forever to get through those definitions. But the conclusion is worth it.

2018-02-06 00:41:02 UTC

The conclusion is very good

2018-02-06 01:05:09 UTC

@everyone BOTM discussion now, 🅱ois

2018-02-06 01:07:05 UTC

I wasn't able to post on the IE lit club. Is this where we will discuss, "why we fight"

2018-02-06 01:07:20 UTC

Yeah man, hop into voice

2018-02-06 01:07:27 UTC

Stupid mic still no work with Firefaux, so I'm typing.

2018-02-06 01:07:36 UTC

I can hear better on the PC than on phone.

2018-02-06 01:07:49 UTC

So if I decide to rant I can switch to phone.

2018-02-06 01:08:42 UTC

Why Are We Fighting?
Before answering this central question, perhaps it’s worth saying at first who this ‘we’ is. Perhaps it’s ‘you’, despite the superficial labels identifying you with one of the various parties or sects that the present tragedy will not hesitate to sweep away? ‘You’ — despite the misunderstandings that divide us — who intuitively senses the mortal dangers threatening France and Europe? ‘You’ — coming from every horizon and having become conscious of the biological, ethical, political, and spiritual decline of European civilisation and the nations comprising it — who has joined the resistance?

In this respect — and also in defining who ‘we’ are — it’s necessary to repeat that agnostics, pagans, and authentic Catholic or Orthodox Christians must demote their secondary philosophical differences, carry out a return to the real, and learn how to align themselves against the common enemy, who everyone well knows.

2018-02-06 01:09:01 UTC

-- it’s necessary that everyone does his duty and works in his place — devotes himself to constructing a body of fundamental values — against the common enemy — in a network of active,
supple, interdependent, and confederated resistance — present on every front, at the level of Europe — with the aim of concentrating all the energies of the combatants.

--Nothing is lost. It’s completely inappropriate to see ourselves, in the nostalgia of despair, as a rearguard, a last outpost, that struggles with panache for a lost cause. No, we have to see ourselves as the vanguard of the resistance, whose lucid spirit exudes a certain optimism. But let there be no illusion. Victory won’t be won through peaceful bourgeois reform or through the vaticinations of an aesthetic and ‘literary’ libertinism. We have to prepare ourselves for the coming tempest, to harden ourselves — for the sake of attacking, like a cobra, quickly and decisively, once the moment of opportunity strikes. In anticipating this moment, we need now to start arming ourselves — mentally and physically — we need to recruit, to proselytise, to educate, to organise in networks of solidarity and action. It’s simple: let’s model ourselves on our enemy.

2018-02-06 01:09:53 UTC
2018-02-06 01:11:00 UTC

NIHILISM - A profound belief in the absence of all ‘meaning in life’: the annihilation of superior values; a cynical, dispirited tendency to despise the principles of action, even to believe that they no longer exist.

2018-02-06 01:12:38 UTC

"Nihil" = "nothing" in Latin.

2018-02-06 01:12:44 UTC

nothing-ism.

2018-02-06 01:16:34 UTC

Nihilism (from the Latin nihil, ‘nothing’) characterises an era when everything has become equivalent, when all authentic sense of the sacred has gone, when the principal preoccupation is consumerism and immediate materialism. Vitalist values (related to the conservation of a line, the defence of a land, the communal spirit, concern for future generations, the perpetuation of traditions, aesthetics, etc.) collapse for the sake of a dissimulating ethic of false values (the humanitarian, anti-racist, democratic vulgate, pseudo-social or ecological discourses at odds with the facts, etc.). Nihilism is the direct offshoot of the bourgeois spirit — obsessional, egoistic, and calculating. The system’s dominant preoccupations, similarly, are short-term financial gain, the maximisation of profit, and the exclusion of every other consideration, even those of health.

2018-02-06 01:19:10 UTC

@SamanthaM I think it may be a reflection on us growing up in the great recession and student debt and employment instability as well

2018-02-06 01:19:32 UTC

@John O - tell her how to say it

2018-02-06 01:19:35 UTC

ZEE ZEE

2018-02-06 01:19:49 UTC

Zeeyezz

2018-02-06 01:19:53 UTC

you mirin'?!?!

2018-02-06 01:19:56 UTC

ORDER - Order is the basis of every creative civilisation, because it disciplines man’s anarchistic animal nature through its political and cultural harmonies.

Order is unacceptable if it’s not disciplinary, educative, selective — if it’s purely repressive in service to a frozen elite. Any notion of order needs, though, to be treated with caution, for it can be stimulating or enervating, a source of vigour or of sclerosis. There is no order without a project, without enthusiasm, without a movement. Order is not simply repressive (the American syndrome), but a form of support, an attraction, a disciplined constitution of a common ideal.

2018-02-06 01:20:46 UTC

PEOPLE - An ethnic ensemble — biological, historical, cultural — with a territory, its fatherland, in which it is rooted.

‘The people’ — the very term is suspect to the cosmopolitan Left, which sees it as bordering on the politically incorrect — is not any statistical ‘population’; it’s an organic community embracing a transcendent body made up of ancestors, the living, and their heirs. Though marked with a certain spirituality, a people is diachronically rooted in the past and projects itself into the future — it’s submerged in biological and genetic matter, but at the same time it’s a historical, and spiritual, reality.

2018-02-06 01:21:01 UTC

--It’s necessary to recall, especially for certain Christians, that a people’s attachment is incompatible with Christianity’s present cosmopolitanism. The claim, for example, that ‘I am closer to an African Catholic than I am to a non-Christian European’ is a universalistic claim that relegates a people’s nation to something of secondary significance. This is, indeed, the great drama of European Christianity, marked as it is by Pauline universalism. A Catholic attached to his people and conscious of the biological and cultural dangers threatening them might instead say, ‘I respect all the Christians of the world, but hic et nunc[201] I fight for my people above all, whatever their religion’.

--The main threat to the identity and existence of great peoples occurs, in contrast, through the conjunction of deculturation and the colonising invasion of alien peoples — which we’re presently experiencing. The Western globalist ‘system’ will never threaten strong peoples. Are Arabs, Chinese, or Indians threatened? On the contrary. It reinforces their identity and their desire to conquer, by provoking their reaction to it.

2018-02-06 01:22:19 UTC

Yeah the Church tended up until recently just *spread* Christianity, not grab people and drag them back home with them.

2018-02-06 01:34:50 UTC

I can't get voice going, but I just want to react to one concept in "why we fight", as follows: unite with the Russians to form a European Northern territory. If you look at a globe straight down on the north pole, you will see that if Europeans unite, we will control the arctic ocean and the last best human habitat on Earth.

2018-02-06 01:35:37 UTC

@Deleted User close down discord, reopen, and get back into voice

2018-02-06 01:35:45 UTC

do you know how to get into voice/

2018-02-06 01:35:47 UTC

You could join our VC and just listen @Deleted User

2018-02-06 01:38:57 UTC

Russian politicians with dual citizenship in Israel? <imagine-my-shock.jpg>

2018-02-06 01:42:27 UTC

My name does not show up there

2018-02-06 01:42:53 UTC

@Deleted User click on "General"

2018-02-06 01:42:59 UTC

in the side bar

2018-02-06 01:43:03 UTC

Are you on a computer or a phone?

2018-02-06 01:44:28 UTC

PEOPLE, LONG-LIVING; SHORT-LIVING PEOPLE - A people that desires and knows how to preserve itself in history, ensure its biological line, and maintain the longevity of its civilisation.

This concept comes from the philosopher Raymond Ruyer.[207] The Arabs, Chinese, Jews, Indians, and others are typical examples of such long-living peoples. Numbed by Western civilisation, which they tragically created and which has turned against them, Europeans today no longer see themselves as a long-living people. For like short-living people, they are not concerned about their ancestors or their posterity — their lineage, cultural heritage, or future. They are devoted to the cult of the immediate present, in their pursuit of small individual pleasures and in the nervous preservation of their material acquisitions.

2018-02-06 01:46:04 UTC

@John O - John O computer

2018-02-06 01:46:47 UTC

Go under the Book of the Month tab, and just click on the tab that says General with the microphone icon

2018-02-06 01:46:48 UTC

brain drain

2018-02-06 01:46:55 UTC

^^

2018-02-06 01:47:33 UTC

PEOPLE, LONG-LIVING; SHORT-LIVING PEOPLE - A people that desires and knows how to preserve itself in history, ensure its biological line, and maintain the longevity of its civilisation.

This concept comes from the philosopher Raymond Ruyer.[207] The Arabs, Chinese, Jews, Indians, and others are typical examples of such long-living peoples. Numbed by Western civilisation, which they tragically created and which has turned against them, Europeans today no longer see themselves as a long-living people. For like short-living people, they are not concerned about their ancestors or their posterity — their lineage, cultural heritage, or future. They are devoted to the cult of the immediate present, in their pursuit of small individual pleasures and in the nervous preservation of their material acquisitions.

2018-02-06 01:48:06 UTC

Small peoples are destroyed by their demographic, military, and technological disadvantages. Great peoples, on the other hand, who sink into the oblivion of time, die because of anaemia, of a lack of will — despite the apparent force of their actually fragile civilisation. This was the destiny of the Incas, the Aztecs, the Egyptians, and others. A long-living people is characterised by the following qualities: demographic vigour, collective ethnic consciousness, popular solidarity, and a common spiritual ideal. A long-living people possesses deep biological roots, a memory and common history, an idea of the divine and a project. This is everything that Western civilisation lacks, since it can’t even project itself five years into the future. All this is fit for reconstruction.

2018-02-06 01:48:39 UTC

@John O Idid nothing happens

2018-02-06 01:49:10 UTC

Close the tab and try again

2018-02-06 01:49:26 UTC

Or try it on your phone

2018-02-06 01:49:26 UTC

POPULISM - The position which defends the people’s interests before that of the political class — and advocates direct democracy.

This presently pejorative term must be made positive. The prevailing aversion to populism actually expresses a covert contempt for authentic democracy. Like its corollary antidemagoguery, anti-populism is a semantic ruse of politicians and bourgeois intellectuals — to deflect the people’s will, especially that of the modest social strata, reputedly dangerous, because they are the most nationalist.

The cosmopolitan bourgeoisie, whether of Left or Right, that presently holds power attacks ‘populism’ because it rejects direct democracy and because it’s convinced that the people is ‘politically incorrect’. On the subject of immigration, the death penalty, school discipline, fiscal policies — on numerous other subjects — it’s well known that the people’s deepest wishes (as evident in referendums and elsewhere) never, despite the incessant media propaganda, correspond to those of the government. It’s logical, then, that those who have confiscated the ‘popular will’ tend to associate populism with despotism.

2018-02-06 01:49:55 UTC

PREFERENCE, EUROPEAN; NATIONAL PREFERENCE, ALIEN PREFERENCE - A political notion inherited from Greek democracy, which accords superior rights to the City’s natives — to ‘citizens’.

It’s an idea of good sense — practiced by all peoples on Earth, except by sick Western societies (France particularly) — the idea that citizens in their own country ought to have an advantage of rights over foreign residents. What else could the notion of ‘citizenship’ — which the Left evokes in every realm, but whose principles it thoughtlessly violates — possibly mean?

--The refusal of national preference inevitably culminates in foreign preference: another sign that egalitarian ideology has become crazy, that it has inverted the egalitarian principle to favour the superiority of aliens. Foreign preference is a collective pathology, imposed by the reigning elites, though it won’t last. Such an abnormal situation can only lead — and this will be for the better — to an extremely grave crisis. Social harmony and peace are possible only with the Aristotelian principle of ‘every City its own privilege’.

2018-02-06 01:50:52 UTC

PRESENTISM - Cult of the present, of the moment, of fashion — a cult distinct to Western society — forgetful of the past and indifferent to the future.

Presentism is a form of blindness — it’s the behaviour of ‘those whose eyes are on the ground, not the sky, not on what’s before or behind them’ — in the expression of the Breton painter and identitarian Yann-Ber Tillenon.

The long-term is never taken into account. Future generations don’t count, the notion of lineage, like that of foresight, is absent. Only the ‘present generation’ counts. But when a fashion ceases to be fashionable, ‘its look’, as Olivier Carré[211] says, ‘becomes tacky’.

--Presentism fosters contempt for the survival of one’s people. It’s a consequence of a narcissistic individualism and the bourgeois spirit. It’s become a way of refusing a common future and a common past, memory and foresight, enrootment and collective ambition, identity and continuity.

2018-02-06 01:51:28 UTC

Sorry john no cell phone service where I live and closing the tab did not help.

2018-02-06 01:51:41 UTC

bruh

2018-02-06 01:51:56 UTC

RACE, RACISM, ANTI-RACISM - A genetically distinct population.

The idea of a ‘pure race’ is obviously not a serious one. It’s the racial fact that counts. A race can be the stabilised product of an ancient melange. Contemporary genetics, out of favour with the dominant ideology, has well and truly confirmed humanity’s division into genetically statistical populations.

Races are not so much distinguished by phenotypic differences (skin colour, hair, height, etc.) as by genotypic variations affecting temperament and mental abilities — along with innate physiological and biological differences.

--Anti-racism, the indispensable viaticum of the self-righteous, is actually a form of xenophilia (the valorisation of the ‘Other’) and of race-phobia. Obsessed and terrified by the fact of race — a major problem with the advent of multi-racial society and the problems it brings — Western ideology has succumbed to both race-phobia and, contradictorily, race-mania. To declare oneself ‘anti-racist’ and to denounce racism are today an obligatory propriety for all ideologues, artists, politicians, and journalists, on the Left and the Right — an obligation as necessary as proclaiming oneself a ‘good Muslim’ in Saudi Arabia.

2018-02-06 01:52:00 UTC

I don't know what to tell you, man. Good luck

2018-02-06 01:52:13 UTC

I couldn’t get sound to work either. Usually works fine.

2018-02-06 01:53:25 UTC

No worries I will work on this later. I got a lot out of why we fight and gave a little written input.

2018-02-06 01:53:46 UTC

I'm sorry it didn't work out, bro

2018-02-06 01:54:27 UTC

YES.

2018-02-06 01:56:15 UTC

My personal reactions to BLM with/around some of my friends and family estranged me from a couple of people. (One friend, one family member)

2018-02-06 01:56:45 UTC

@Why Tea Were your friends and family really into it?

2018-02-06 01:56:56 UTC

No, I don't mean that way.

2018-02-06 01:57:07 UTC

Most of my friends and family are liberal but basically roll their eyes at BLM

2018-02-06 01:57:09 UTC

I mean my visceral reaction against the idiocy of BLM and the chimpouts.

2018-02-06 01:57:28 UTC

mmm I see, sort of like a "why do you care" reaction they had?

2018-02-06 01:57:40 UTC

"Why are you so upset about this?"

2018-02-06 01:58:14 UTC

RESISTANCE AND RECONQUEST - Faced with their colonisation by peoples from the South and by Islam, Europeans, objectively speaking, are in a situation of resistance. Like Christian Spain between the Eighth and Fifteenth centuries, their project is one of reconquest.

--Not until the state is visibly colonised by aliens and Muslims (which won’t be long for reasons of demographics and enfranchisement) will there be revolt and resistance. For revolt and resistance arise only in the face of a power seen as alien and illegitimate. For the moment, civil society alone is affected and power still appears to be in native hands — thus no serious resistance is yet possible. But soon, in the course of things, aliens and Muslims will have their own municipalities, legislative
deputies, and ministers. It’s of some urgency, then, that we start preparing and organising the resistance — by every means possible, politically and metapolitically — so as to ready ourselves for that moment when the alien colonisers start taking over the public powers.

2018-02-06 01:58:22 UTC

yeah. how did that wind up? was it something you talked about a lot that they just didn't get @Why Tea ?

2018-02-06 01:59:02 UTC

I want to reconquer constantiople in my lifetime

2018-02-06 01:59:10 UTC

Yes. With the friend I lost, I went into depth with him on how diversity was a weakness. He didn't want to believe it, but couldn't refute it. He broke off contact.

2018-02-06 01:59:17 UTC

WILL TO POWER - The tendency of all healthy life to perpetuate itself — to assure its survival, its
superiority, and its capacity for creation.
--A people or civilisation that abandons its will to power inevitably perishes, for what doesn’t advance,
retreats — what doesn’t accept life as struggle hasn’t long to live.

2018-02-06 01:59:26 UTC

@Why Tea yeah that's rough.

2018-02-06 01:59:49 UTC

i'd rather have no friends than libtarded friends tbh

2018-02-06 02:00:15 UTC

if you cant understand how that harms us then you are effectively part of the prob imo

2018-02-06 02:00:17 UTC

Yeah, with a lot of my liberal friends, I just talk to them much less nowadays

2018-02-06 02:00:24 UTC

being married kind of gives me an excuse

2018-02-06 02:00:30 UTC

plus a marginal amount of distance

2018-02-06 02:00:52 UTC

but it's really just that we don't have much in common anymore

2018-02-06 02:01:52 UTC

they're way too into bugman stuff

2018-02-06 02:01:59 UTC

my gf is the normie i could stand being around after i red pilled.

2018-02-06 02:02:45 UTC

@Deleted User yeah that's a deeper connection, a solid couple has a dialogue based on trust and the mutual benefit of each other and the couple

2018-02-06 02:03:43 UTC

@John O - I love Alt Hype and never miss a video, but on that one it may be a bit of "just so" thinking. That would require those people executed to have not had any children, or at least to have had far fewer children than the others in the population.

2018-02-06 02:04:19 UTC

Yeah, the math isn't perfect, and he admits it, and he accounts for that

2018-02-06 02:04:23 UTC

It's an interesting hypothesis and I like thinking about those sorts of things, but I don't think that's "all the way there" in terms of an explanation.

2018-02-06 02:04:40 UTC

SOCIETY, MARKET - One of the appellations of present Western society — in which the market (or economic) function takes the place of the sovereign function and becomes the ultima ratio[236] — the ultimate and unique horizon against which all political decisions are made.

This term is preferable to that of ‘capitalist society’. For it’s not a matter of condemning the market economy, but rather of deploring the market’s dictatorship over every other consideration (ecological, ethnic, aesthetic, social, etc.). The market can’t be everything and material exchanges can’t be the basis of social relations. In market society, everything has a price, but nothing is of value.

2018-02-06 02:04:40 UTC

I don't think he *does* account for it.

2018-02-06 02:05:11 UTC

Until you show me that those that got killed had no children, or 2 children, rather than 8, or something...

2018-02-06 02:06:05 UTC

What happened with the Asians, then? They're less violent than Whites are. Were they running around executing too? Over what timeframe? It reeks of the sort of "just so" thinking that's in Guns Germs and Steel.

2018-02-06 02:06:12 UTC

That's totally unprovable, and a common theme of Alt Hype is unprovable hypothesis. That's the problem with being an autodidact

2018-02-06 02:06:19 UTC

LOL

2018-02-06 02:06:30 UTC

I love it. "The Unprovable Hypothesis"

2018-02-06 02:06:57 UTC

I always take him with a grain of salt. I never believe anything he says, it's just something to think on

2018-02-06 02:07:07 UTC

Again I'm not casting shade on him, he's like one of my favorites.

2018-02-06 02:07:18 UTC

He does excellent work.

2018-02-06 02:07:21 UTC

He totally denies any European genocide of Native Americans, which is insane

2018-02-06 02:07:32 UTC

Yeah that's a bit strange.

2018-02-06 02:07:32 UTC

it was unintentional

2018-02-06 02:07:52 UTC

they carried small pox with them that the indians had no immunity to

2018-02-06 02:08:05 UTC

Well, there was Andrew Jackson as well

2018-02-06 02:08:05 UTC

My understanding of Native American genocide comes from the Iron Maiden song "Run to the Hills".

2018-02-06 02:08:13 UTC

And many like Jackson

2018-02-06 02:08:26 UTC

I feel like a better path is to just say "yeah whites killed native americans, inter-civilizational conflict is nothing new"

2018-02-06 02:08:27 UTC

i deny the indian shoah too, the indians were killing eachother, just like africans kill eachother

2018-02-06 02:08:32 UTC

but so many died before jackson

2018-02-06 02:08:54 UTC

That doesn't mean Europeans didn't also kill them @Deleted User

2018-02-06 02:08:55 UTC

that's like saying any battle is a genocide

2018-02-06 02:09:30 UTC

this is the true story of the Native American genocide: https://youtu.be/86URGgqONvA

2018-02-06 02:09:37 UTC

I mispoke, he doesn't deny a genocide, he denies any drop in population after Europeans showed up

2018-02-06 02:09:50 UTC

Which is crazy too, John.

2018-02-06 02:09:55 UTC

just cause they insisted on fighting and losing doesny mean its a genocide
tfw galaxybrain

2018-02-06 02:09:58 UTC

Populations here were in flux already.

2018-02-06 02:10:03 UTC

THIRD WORLDISM - Doctrine, on the Left and Right, which claims the Third World has been ‘exploited’ — and that it’s advisable to aid it, unceasingly, with financial and technological transfers, and to welcome its migrants.

Third Worldism is a snake that swallows its own tail: in claiming to aid poor countries, it deserts and divests itself of all actual responsibility for them. It imposes on these lands a Western economic model, destructive of local economies. One pities the Third World in terms of a self-culpabilising charity.

2018-02-06 02:11:03 UTC

coalinization

2018-02-06 02:11:04 UTC

the difference between liberia and the ivory coast

2018-02-06 02:11:40 UTC

Third World parasitism takes the following forms: 1. Direct financial costs in the form of lost loans, Europeanfinanced exports, the annulment of debt, etc. 2 . The cost of technical aid and cooperation, as well as technological transfers. Despite massive aid, no African or Arab country has ever attained even a modicum of economic balance. 3. The cost of exploiting raw materials in the Third World. For fifty years we’ve been told that we exploited the countries of the South. Their petroleum, raw materials, and their agriculture would, though, be of no use to Europe, if she thought geopolitically — in terms of a ‘Eurosiberian space’. No Muslim oil exporter, for example, would be able to exploit the subsoil reserves of his country on his own. These reserves have been discovered and exploited by foreign companies, who pay an enormous rent for them. Eurosiberia would have no need of Third World resources. 4 . The worst, the heaviest burden: dumping its excess population in Europe, which is equivalent to overwhelming her demographically and hamstringing her with an economic ball and chain.

2018-02-06 02:11:59 UTC

@Zyzz kek

2018-02-06 02:12:40 UTC

TRADITION, TRADITIONALISM - Tradition is the ensemble of a people’s values and cultural structures, which are transmitted (tradere in Latin) from generation to generation — to form the scaffolding of its collective memory.

2018-02-06 02:14:32 UTC
2018-02-06 02:14:59 UTC

VALUES - Idea-forces and life rules that are translated into behaviours and transcend individual egoism, since they have no immediate utility, but constitute a long-term necessity for a community’s survival.

Some of the fundamental values, for example, are:
• A refusal of massification, as well as a narcissistic individualism,
• An affirmation of the creative inequality of the human race,
• Concern for a people and its historical destiny,
• Loyalty to a lineage (ethnic consciousness),
• Individual freedom as self-discipline,
• The precedence of communal solidarity over egoism,
• Cult of the aesthetic,
• Respect for life’s selectivity — and not ‘all’ life,
• The spirit of enterprise and creation . . .

2018-02-06 02:15:55 UTC

UNIVERSALISM - The belief that humanity forms a homogeneous ensemble, a single family, in which notions of people and identity are secondary.

An avatar of egalitarian ideology, universalism is a political monotheism, the parent of all totalitarianisms. The individual for it is but ‘a citizen of the world’. All cultures are destined to fuse and no inequalities of nature or quality exist between them.

2018-02-06 02:16:59 UTC

A belief in Universalism is hurting us big time.

2018-02-06 02:18:43 UTC

Universalism is a primary tenant of the Christian churches in my area. We need a church of Christian warriors.

2018-02-06 02:19:06 UTC

haha we were discussing this earlier

2018-02-06 02:20:03 UTC

I bet. I am going to have to get on top of this discord program some how.

2018-02-06 02:20:26 UTC

there might be youtube videos that could help you

2018-02-06 02:21:18 UTC

@Deleted User Wish you were here, man

2018-02-06 02:21:44 UTC

Where are you John?

2018-02-06 02:21:52 UTC

In the voice chat

2018-02-06 02:22:36 UTC

^lol

2018-02-06 02:24:18 UTC

Why Are We Fighting?
Before answering this central question, perhaps it’s worth saying at first who this ‘we’ is. Perhaps it’s ‘you’, despite the superficial labels identifying you with one of the various parties or sects that the present tragedy will not hesitate to sweep away? ‘You’ — despite the misunderstandings that divide us — who intuitively senses the mortal dangers threatening France and Europe? ‘You’ — coming from every horizon and having become conscious of the biological, ethical, political, and spiritual decline of European civilisation and the nations comprising it — who has joined the resistance?

In this respect — and also in defining who ‘we’ are — it’s necessary to repeat that agnostics, pagans, and authentic Catholic or Orthodox Christians must demote their secondary philosophical differences, carry out a return to the real, and learn how to align themselves against the common enemy, who everyone well knows.

2018-02-06 02:24:26 UTC

-- it’s necessary that everyone does his duty and works in his place — devotes himself to constructing a body of fundamental values — against the common enemy — in a network of active,
supple, interdependent, and confederated resistance — present on every front, at the level of Europe — with the aim of concentrating all the energies of the combatants.

--Nothing is lost. It’s completely inappropriate to see ourselves, in the nostalgia of despair, as a rearguard, a last outpost, that struggles with panache for a lost cause. No, we have to see ourselves as the vanguard of the resistance, whose lucid spirit exudes a certain optimism. But let there be no illusion. Victory won’t be won through peaceful bourgeois reform or through the vaticinations of an aesthetic and ‘literary’ libertinism. We have to prepare ourselves for the coming tempest, to harden ourselves — for the sake of attacking, like a cobra, quickly and decisively, once the moment of opportunity strikes. In anticipating this moment, we need now to start arming ourselves — mentally and physically — we need to recruit, to proselytise, to educate, to organise in networks of solidarity and action. It’s simple: let’s model ourselves on our enemy.

2018-02-06 02:29:48 UTC

Hell yeah, bring back the crusades

2018-02-06 02:30:10 UTC

Also, celebrate Our Lady of Lepanto

2018-02-06 02:30:35 UTC

What a crazy time, man

2018-02-06 02:30:48 UTC

Basically the Pope had everyone pray 24/7 for euros to beat the turks at sea

2018-02-06 02:31:00 UTC

it stemmed the turkish invasion further into europe

2018-02-06 02:36:09 UTC

Thanks

2018-02-06 02:36:09 UTC

@CarletonJ white identity please

2018-02-06 03:48:29 UTC

@ThisIsChris thank you for the post

2018-02-06 05:28:42 UTC

@FlyingDutchmann My pleasure!

2018-02-06 06:49:24 UTC

Thanks again for allowing me to lurk during the voice call. Lots of big brain ni🅱 🇧 as. One note I had on the Euro-Russian partnership discussion is that of an extremely cautious approach. We speak much about identity--the Russian identity can perhaps be best summarized as "the long con". The culture (at its strategic depth) and even the manner in which they construct sentences is indicative of a patient end-goal. Mother Evropa and the Russians would do well to form bonds of brotherhood in the sense detailed by Faye, but she must never let her guard down.

2018-02-07 02:58:53 UTC

@William_1994 - WA Hi William i am trying to get my voice chat to work. I have voice connectted. can I test this somehow?

2018-02-07 03:07:45 UTC

Back in a bit.

2018-02-07 03:24:48 UTC

You should, assuming you have a mic, be able to get in the chat by clicking on the *General* with the volume signal beside it below this section.

2018-02-07 03:37:31 UTC

@Deleted User If you unmute yourself, you should be able to speak in the next chat.

2018-02-07 03:38:40 UTC

@Deleted User ayyyyyyyy

2018-02-07 03:41:28 UTC

Hi John and William, I do see the voice activated icon. Maybe I'm connected.

2018-02-07 03:42:04 UTC

I heard some one

2018-02-07 03:42:38 UTC

OK on that it doesn't work

2018-02-07 03:42:54 UTC

It sends me to help.

2018-02-07 03:43:20 UTC

left click

2018-02-07 03:44:09 UTC

OK yes I do get wifi

2018-02-07 03:44:29 UTC

OK thanks I will work on it.

2018-02-07 03:44:46 UTC

Ok good night

2018-02-07 03:46:09 UTC

If you want to alert someone that you're talking to them, right click on their name, and in the drop-down menu, click "mention"

2018-02-07 03:46:13 UTC
2018-02-07 03:46:39 UTC

Or just type @ followed by their name

2018-02-07 03:47:11 UTC

@John O - that works

2018-02-07 03:47:22 UTC

There ya go

2018-02-07 03:56:23 UTC

It says it is installing on phone

2018-02-07 04:17:52 UTC

From phone😀

2018-02-13 14:30:34 UTC

I forgot to post it last night, but this is my favorite excerpt from the book

*To my children,
Charlotte and Eleanor,
who must live in the country
we leave to them.*

It warms my heart to see that Jared got to have a few kids

2018-02-13 17:13:17 UTC

I found that excerpt rather moving as well. Kinda like he absolutely understands the bag of shit his generation is handing to ours

2018-02-13 19:14:18 UTC

@John O - I was considering posting that as well. I think it really shows his true intentions.

2018-02-16 23:28:23 UTC

Gave this book to a co worker this week.

2018-02-16 23:30:45 UTC

He's eating the red pill as we speak

2018-02-16 23:46:44 UTC

How did you convince him to actually read it?

2018-02-17 00:13:43 UTC

@Deleted User Absolutely fantastic!

2018-02-17 00:15:05 UTC

@Jacob i told him I have two of JTs books and he was interested. Said he wanted to read one before the debate between JP and JT

2018-02-17 00:20:49 UTC

Wait, are they actually debating?

2018-02-17 00:20:52 UTC

Is it confirmed?

2018-02-17 00:21:18 UTC

Who's hosting?

2018-02-17 00:21:57 UTC

Yes. Sunday Feb 25th, 730pm Baked Alaska

2018-02-17 00:22:18 UTC

Event of the century.

2018-02-17 00:22:36 UTC

Red pill of the century

2018-02-17 00:22:43 UTC

Who is JP ?

2018-02-17 00:23:01 UTC

@Wotan Reborn Jordan Peterson

2018-02-17 00:23:10 UTC

Oh shit!

2018-02-17 00:23:10 UTC

Great read btw. Great stats and comparisons through out

2018-02-17 00:23:17 UTC

Wow!

2018-02-17 00:24:25 UTC

If JT wins, which I think he will...legitimizing the concept of white identity among JPs audience would be incredible

2018-02-17 00:25:17 UTC

@D_R_K_V JP argues concepts and theories. JT bases his positions in hard facts and data.

2018-02-17 00:26:55 UTC

:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396469069332611083/414216106786684929/image-2.png

2018-02-17 00:28:32 UTC

Yep, Peterson will have to concede all the premises and somehow reach a different conclusion. "Yes, your collective interests are threatened by demographic change, but be an individualist bro!" is what I expect Peterson will end up maintaining.

2018-02-17 00:29:23 UTC

I dont want to derail botm discussion**

2018-02-17 00:29:53 UTC

Point taken

2018-02-17 00:29:58 UTC

@Deleted User Train already left that station

2018-02-17 00:30:46 UTC

Haha

2018-02-17 00:31:33 UTC

But it would be great for jared to highlight the displacement of blacks by mass migration, as he does in White Identity....

2018-02-17 00:33:03 UTC

And the racial tensions that exist among minority groups. Ex Mexicans and blacks in the LA city school systems.

2018-02-17 00:33:13 UTC

And ask huwhy...

2018-02-17 00:33:35 UTC

Exactly! He takes the extra step and notes how mass migration pushes down blue collar wages, thereby harming the native low-IQ community. To be "pro-black" is to oppose almost all net-positive immigration.

2018-02-17 00:34:00 UTC

Superchat.....

2018-02-17 00:34:14 UTC

That might cost you $50

2018-02-17 00:35:23 UTC

@SamanthaM please dont make me rethink my immigration policy in regards to blacks...

2018-02-17 00:36:07 UTC

just curious but how the hell did baked alaska get it? why not warski

2018-02-17 00:36:23 UTC

@Zyzz Mea culpa, lol

2018-02-17 00:36:24 UTC

Not sure.

2018-02-17 00:36:57 UTC

Longer name recog? More subs? Warski is hot right now though man. He and JF are killing it

2018-02-17 00:37:59 UTC

@Deleted User Right! Who could have expected Warski to flip like that?

2018-02-17 00:38:07 UTC

baked put a sour taste in my mouth post cville 2.0 tbh

2018-02-17 00:38:26 UTC

@Zyzz Why so?

2018-02-17 00:38:44 UTC

@SamanthaM he just cucked hard

2018-02-17 00:39:06 UTC

i understand he almost lost his eyesight but i dont think he needed to cuck so hard

2018-02-17 00:39:15 UTC

it just looked weak

2018-02-17 00:39:33 UTC

i used to like him prior to cville

2018-02-17 00:41:07 UTC

Anyone who gives a fair platform to JT is pretty much redeemed.

2018-02-17 00:41:22 UTC

thats a good point

2018-02-17 00:42:02 UTC

but it doesnt really change how i personally feel about him

2018-02-17 00:42:26 UTC

@Zyzz Completely fair

2018-02-17 01:05:54 UTC

Can someone link me confirmation on the Jared Taylor Jordan Peterson debate?

2018-02-17 01:05:58 UTC

I can't find anything online

2018-02-17 01:08:26 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396469069332611083/414226551932977152/Screenshot_20180216-200759.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396469069332611083/414226551932977154/Screenshot_20180216-200749.png

2018-02-17 01:08:53 UTC

Although, to be fair, that's not exactly proof

2018-02-17 01:14:30 UTC

Damn thats what Im basing it on...might have started a fire here....lol

2018-02-17 01:16:52 UTC

Ive linked to his discord. Im looking, palms are sweaty...

2018-02-17 01:25:41 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396469069332611083/414230896103915521/image.jpg

2018-02-17 01:26:39 UTC

Is it just a 4chan rumor?

2018-02-17 01:27:46 UTC

*running away*

2018-02-17 01:28:13 UTC

Twice in one day, you have dissatisfied us, Wilhelm

2018-02-17 01:29:33 UTC

First time?

2018-02-17 01:29:53 UTC

The thing in the National server

2018-02-17 01:30:00 UTC

Sorry dude, obtuse joke

2018-02-17 01:31:14 UTC

Shame

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