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--Itโs necessary to recall, especially for certain Christians, that a peopleโs attachment is incompatible with Christianityโs present cosmopolitanism. The claim, for example, that โI am closer to an African Catholic than I am to a non-Christian Europeanโ is a universalistic claim that relegates a peopleโs nation to something of secondary significance. This is, indeed, the great drama of European Christianity, marked as it is by Pauline universalism. A Catholic attached to his people and conscious of the biological and cultural dangers threatening them might instead say, โI respect all the Christians of the world, but hic et nunc[201] I fight for my people above all, whatever their religionโ.
--The main threat to the identity and existence of great peoples occurs, in contrast, through the conjunction of deculturation and the colonising invasion of alien peoples โ which weโre presently experiencing. The Western globalist โsystemโ will never threaten strong peoples. Are Arabs, Chinese, or Indians threatened? On the contrary. It reinforces their identity and their desire to conquer, by provoking their reaction to it.
Yeah the Church tended up until recently just *spread* Christianity, not grab people and drag them back home with them.
I can't get voice going, but I just want to react to one concept in "why we fight", as follows: unite with the Russians to form a European Northern territory. If you look at a globe straight down on the north pole, you will see that if Europeans unite, we will control the arctic ocean and the last best human habitat on Earth.
@Deleted User close down discord, reopen, and get back into voice
do you know how to get into voice/
You could join our VC and just listen @Deleted User
Russian politicians with dual citizenship in Israel? <imagine-my-shock.jpg>
My name does not show up there
@Deleted User click on "General"
in the side bar
Are you on a computer or a phone?
PEOPLE, LONG-LIVING; SHORT-LIVING PEOPLE - A people that desires and knows how to preserve itself in history, ensure its biological line, and maintain the longevity of its civilisation.
This concept comes from the philosopher Raymond Ruyer.[207] The Arabs, Chinese, Jews, Indians, and others are typical examples of such long-living peoples. Numbed by Western civilisation, which they tragically created and which has turned against them, Europeans today no longer see themselves as a long-living people. For like short-living people, they are not concerned about their ancestors or their posterity โ their lineage, cultural heritage, or future. They are devoted to the cult of the immediate present, in their pursuit of small individual pleasures and in the nervous preservation of their material acquisitions.
@John O - John O computer
Go under the Book of the Month tab, and just click on the tab that says General with the microphone icon
brain drain
^^
PEOPLE, LONG-LIVING; SHORT-LIVING PEOPLE - A people that desires and knows how to preserve itself in history, ensure its biological line, and maintain the longevity of its civilisation.
This concept comes from the philosopher Raymond Ruyer.[207] The Arabs, Chinese, Jews, Indians, and others are typical examples of such long-living peoples. Numbed by Western civilisation, which they tragically created and which has turned against them, Europeans today no longer see themselves as a long-living people. For like short-living people, they are not concerned about their ancestors or their posterity โ their lineage, cultural heritage, or future. They are devoted to the cult of the immediate present, in their pursuit of small individual pleasures and in the nervous preservation of their material acquisitions.
Small peoples are destroyed by their demographic, military, and technological disadvantages. Great peoples, on the other hand, who sink into the oblivion of time, die because of anaemia, of a lack of will โ despite the apparent force of their actually fragile civilisation. This was the destiny of the Incas, the Aztecs, the Egyptians, and others. A long-living people is characterised by the following qualities: demographic vigour, collective ethnic consciousness, popular solidarity, and a common spiritual ideal. A long-living people possesses deep biological roots, a memory and common history, an idea of the divine and a project. This is everything that Western civilisation lacks, since it canโt even project itself five years into the future. All this is fit for reconstruction.
@John O Idid nothing happens
Close the tab and try again
Or try it on your phone
POPULISM - The position which defends the peopleโs interests before that of the political class โ and advocates direct democracy.
This presently pejorative term must be made positive. The prevailing aversion to populism actually expresses a covert contempt for authentic democracy. Like its corollary antidemagoguery, anti-populism is a semantic ruse of politicians and bourgeois intellectuals โ to deflect the peopleโs will, especially that of the modest social strata, reputedly dangerous, because they are the most nationalist.
The cosmopolitan bourgeoisie, whether of Left or Right, that presently holds power attacks โpopulismโ because it rejects direct democracy and because itโs convinced that the people is โpolitically incorrectโ. On the subject of immigration, the death penalty, school discipline, fiscal policies โ on numerous other subjects โ itโs well known that the peopleโs deepest wishes (as evident in referendums and elsewhere) never, despite the incessant media propaganda, correspond to those of the government. Itโs logical, then, that those who have confiscated the โpopular willโ tend to associate populism with despotism.
PREFERENCE, EUROPEAN; NATIONAL PREFERENCE, ALIEN PREFERENCE - A political notion inherited from Greek democracy, which accords superior rights to the Cityโs natives โ to โcitizensโ.
Itโs an idea of good sense โ practiced by all peoples on Earth, except by sick Western societies (France particularly) โ the idea that citizens in their own country ought to have an advantage of rights over foreign residents. What else could the notion of โcitizenshipโ โ which the Left evokes in every realm, but whose principles it thoughtlessly violates โ possibly mean?
--The refusal of national preference inevitably culminates in foreign preference: another sign that egalitarian ideology has become crazy, that it has inverted the egalitarian principle to favour the superiority of aliens. Foreign preference is a collective pathology, imposed by the reigning elites, though it wonโt last. Such an abnormal situation can only lead โ and this will be for the better โ to an extremely grave crisis. Social harmony and peace are possible only with the Aristotelian principle of โevery City its own privilegeโ.
PRESENTISM - Cult of the present, of the moment, of fashion โ a cult distinct to Western society โ forgetful of the past and indifferent to the future.
Presentism is a form of blindness โ itโs the behaviour of โthose whose eyes are on the ground, not the sky, not on whatโs before or behind themโ โ in the expression of the Breton painter and identitarian Yann-Ber Tillenon.
The long-term is never taken into account. Future generations donโt count, the notion of lineage, like that of foresight, is absent. Only the โpresent generationโ counts. But when a fashion ceases to be fashionable, โits lookโ, as Olivier Carrรฉ[211] says, โbecomes tackyโ.
--Presentism fosters contempt for the survival of oneโs people. Itโs a consequence of a narcissistic individualism and the bourgeois spirit. Itโs become a way of refusing a common future and a common past, memory and foresight, enrootment and collective ambition, identity and continuity.
Sorry john no cell phone service where I live and closing the tab did not help.
bruh
RACE, RACISM, ANTI-RACISM - A genetically distinct population.
The idea of a โpure raceโ is obviously not a serious one. Itโs the racial fact that counts. A race can be the stabilised product of an ancient melange. Contemporary genetics, out of favour with the dominant ideology, has well and truly confirmed humanityโs division into genetically statistical populations.
Races are not so much distinguished by phenotypic differences (skin colour, hair, height, etc.) as by genotypic variations affecting temperament and mental abilities โ along with innate physiological and biological differences.
--Anti-racism, the indispensable viaticum of the self-righteous, is actually a form of xenophilia (the valorisation of the โOtherโ) and of race-phobia. Obsessed and terrified by the fact of race โ a major problem with the advent of multi-racial society and the problems it brings โ Western ideology has succumbed to both race-phobia and, contradictorily, race-mania. To declare oneself โanti-racistโ and to denounce racism are today an obligatory propriety for all ideologues, artists, politicians, and journalists, on the Left and the Right โ an obligation as necessary as proclaiming oneself a โgood Muslimโ in Saudi Arabia.
I don't know what to tell you, man. Good luck
I couldnโt get sound to work either. Usually works fine.
No worries I will work on this later. I got a lot out of why we fight and gave a little written input.
I'm sorry it didn't work out, bro
YES.
My personal reactions to BLM with/around some of my friends and family estranged me from a couple of people. (One friend, one family member)
@Why Tea Were your friends and family really into it?
No, I don't mean that way.
Most of my friends and family are liberal but basically roll their eyes at BLM
I mean my visceral reaction against the idiocy of BLM and the chimpouts.
mmm I see, sort of like a "why do you care" reaction they had?
"Why are you so upset about this?"
RESISTANCE AND RECONQUEST - Faced with their colonisation by peoples from the South and by Islam, Europeans, objectively speaking, are in a situation of resistance. Like Christian Spain between the Eighth and Fifteenth centuries, their project is one of reconquest.
--Not until the state is visibly colonised by aliens and Muslims (which wonโt be long for reasons of demographics and enfranchisement) will there be revolt and resistance. For revolt and resistance arise only in the face of a power seen as alien and illegitimate. For the moment, civil society alone is affected and power still appears to be in native hands โ thus no serious resistance is yet possible. But soon, in the course of things, aliens and Muslims will have their own municipalities, legislative
deputies, and ministers. Itโs of some urgency, then, that we start preparing and organising the resistance โ by every means possible, politically and metapolitically โ so as to ready ourselves for that moment when the alien colonisers start taking over the public powers.
yeah. how did that wind up? was it something you talked about a lot that they just didn't get @Why Tea ?
I want to reconquer constantiople in my lifetime
Yes. With the friend I lost, I went into depth with him on how diversity was a weakness. He didn't want to believe it, but couldn't refute it. He broke off contact.
WILL TO POWER - The tendency of all healthy life to perpetuate itself โ to assure its survival, its
superiority, and its capacity for creation.
--A people or civilisation that abandons its will to power inevitably perishes, for what doesnโt advance,
retreats โ what doesnโt accept life as struggle hasnโt long to live.
@Why Tea yeah that's rough.
i'd rather have no friends than libtarded friends tbh
if you cant understand how that harms us then you are effectively part of the prob imo
Yeah, with a lot of my liberal friends, I just talk to them much less nowadays
being married kind of gives me an excuse
plus a marginal amount of distance
but it's really just that we don't have much in common anymore
they're way too into bugman stuff
my gf is the normie i could stand being around after i red pilled.
@Deleted User yeah that's a deeper connection, a solid couple has a dialogue based on trust and the mutual benefit of each other and the couple
@John O - I love Alt Hype and never miss a video, but on that one it may be a bit of "just so" thinking. That would require those people executed to have not had any children, or at least to have had far fewer children than the others in the population.
Yeah, the math isn't perfect, and he admits it, and he accounts for that
It's an interesting hypothesis and I like thinking about those sorts of things, but I don't think that's "all the way there" in terms of an explanation.
SOCIETY, MARKET - One of the appellations of present Western society โ in which the market (or economic) function takes the place of the sovereign function and becomes the ultima ratio[236] โ the ultimate and unique horizon against which all political decisions are made.
This term is preferable to that of โcapitalist societyโ. For itโs not a matter of condemning the market economy, but rather of deploring the marketโs dictatorship over every other consideration (ecological, ethnic, aesthetic, social, etc.). The market canโt be everything and material exchanges canโt be the basis of social relations. In market society, everything has a price, but nothing is of value.
I don't think he *does* account for it.
Until you show me that those that got killed had no children, or 2 children, rather than 8, or something...
What happened with the Asians, then? They're less violent than Whites are. Were they running around executing too? Over what timeframe? It reeks of the sort of "just so" thinking that's in Guns Germs and Steel.
That's totally unprovable, and a common theme of Alt Hype is unprovable hypothesis. That's the problem with being an autodidact
LOL
I love it. "The Unprovable Hypothesis"
I always take him with a grain of salt. I never believe anything he says, it's just something to think on
Again I'm not casting shade on him, he's like one of my favorites.
He does excellent work.
He totally denies any European genocide of Native Americans, which is insane
Yeah that's a bit strange.
it was unintentional
they carried small pox with them that the indians had no immunity to
Well, there was Andrew Jackson as well
My understanding of Native American genocide comes from the Iron Maiden song "Run to the Hills".
And many like Jackson
I feel like a better path is to just say "yeah whites killed native americans, inter-civilizational conflict is nothing new"
i deny the indian shoah too, the indians were killing eachother, just like africans kill eachother
but so many died before jackson
That doesn't mean Europeans didn't also kill them @Deleted User
that's like saying any battle is a genocide
this is the true story of the Native American genocide: https://youtu.be/86URGgqONvA
I mispoke, he doesn't deny a genocide, he denies any drop in population after Europeans showed up
Which is crazy too, John.
just cause they insisted on fighting and losing doesny mean its a genocide
tfw galaxybrain
Populations here were in flux already.
THIRD WORLDISM - Doctrine, on the Left and Right, which claims the Third World has been โexploitedโ โ and that itโs advisable to aid it, unceasingly, with financial and technological transfers, and to welcome its migrants.
Third Worldism is a snake that swallows its own tail: in claiming to aid poor countries, it deserts and divests itself of all actual responsibility for them. It imposes on these lands a Western economic model, destructive of local economies. One pities the Third World in terms of a self-culpabilising charity.
coalinization
the difference between liberia and the ivory coast
Third World parasitism takes the following forms: 1. Direct financial costs in the form of lost loans, Europeanfinanced exports, the annulment of debt, etc. 2 . The cost of technical aid and cooperation, as well as technological transfers. Despite massive aid, no African or Arab country has ever attained even a modicum of economic balance. 3. The cost of exploiting raw materials in the Third World. For fifty years weโve been told that we exploited the countries of the South. Their petroleum, raw materials, and their agriculture would, though, be of no use to Europe, if she thought geopolitically โ in terms of a โEurosiberian spaceโ. No Muslim oil exporter, for example, would be able to exploit the subsoil reserves of his country on his own. These reserves have been discovered and exploited by foreign companies, who pay an enormous rent for them. Eurosiberia would have no need of Third World resources. 4 . The worst, the heaviest burden: dumping its excess population in Europe, which is equivalent to overwhelming her demographically and hamstringing her with an economic ball and chain.
TRADITION, TRADITIONALISM - Tradition is the ensemble of a peopleโs values and cultural structures, which are transmitted (tradere in Latin) from generation to generation โ to form the scaffolding of its collective memory.
VALUES - Idea-forces and life rules that are translated into behaviours and transcend individual egoism, since they have no immediate utility, but constitute a long-term necessity for a communityโs survival.
Some of the fundamental values, for example, are:
โข A refusal of massification, as well as a narcissistic individualism,
โข An affirmation of the creative inequality of the human race,
โข Concern for a people and its historical destiny,
โข Loyalty to a lineage (ethnic consciousness),
โข Individual freedom as self-discipline,
โข The precedence of communal solidarity over egoism,
โข Cult of the aesthetic,
โข Respect for lifeโs selectivity โ and not โallโ life,
โข The spirit of enterprise and creation . . .
UNIVERSALISM - The belief that humanity forms a homogeneous ensemble, a single family, in which notions of people and identity are secondary.
An avatar of egalitarian ideology, universalism is a political monotheism, the parent of all totalitarianisms. The individual for it is but โa citizen of the worldโ. All cultures are destined to fuse and no inequalities of nature or quality exist between them.
A belief in Universalism is hurting us big time.
Universalism is a primary tenant of the Christian churches in my area. We need a church of Christian warriors.
haha we were discussing this earlier
I bet. I am going to have to get on top of this discord program some how.
there might be youtube videos that could help you
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