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@VinceChaos I wonder where Jared gets his accent from. It reminds me of William Buckley's (not a fan anymore of him btw).
Is it a Yale thing? 😂
Buckley’s accent came from old Anglophile New England. It was actually a bit ridiculous he didn’t drop it like most of the rest of his cohort when it went out of style
Jared sounds like most other east coast southerners, with the exception of his pronunciation of “wh.” Buckley’s non-rhotic r is grating on the ears too lol
At least to me
Buckley views were often not as bluepilled as you might think especially in the early days of National Review, but my impression is that he did change his views later on
Real chads listen to JT while on a banner drop
Zman's most recent podcast talked about Buckley routinely backstabbing people in NR who didn't agree with what he viewed as the new conservative platform. I could see how his views changed.
Yeah it's a transatlantic Connecticut thing
those who say they arent meant for leadership are often people who should be leaders
It's a good question
Perfect answer honestly
We'll try to get everyone's questions in time but cant make any promises
The US will soon be a one party country.
Unless something changes.
Great answers, yes.
Is that a cat i hear?
Mr. Taylor, this was such a pleasure to hear you speak. Thank you, truly!
Lmao I just now thought of a question for him 🤦
Thanks for coming on, Mr. Taylor. You are the man
Thank You Mr. Taylor!
thanks, I really appreciate it!
I should've asked his advice to parents raising racially aware kids
oooh that would have been an interesting one
Taylor and Paul Kersey have begun to dedicate the end of their podcasts to listener questions no matter how much they want to get more news stories in. Send questions to https://www.amren.com/contact/
you can send them to Paul Kersey's email too but i dont remember it
wasnt sure if it was gmail
Is "Born Guilty" by Jason Köhne worth a read?
It appears that I stumbled upon the one Gentile Marxist Economist who predicted something like our current Neo-Liberal economic system. He was just mad about it, where Marxists today ( at least the cultural ones) kind of like it.
He predicted that rather than a violent Proletariat revolution, Capitalism as it stood in the early 20th century would transform into corporatism.
Essentially through creative destruction (his term, initially popular with Marxists) power would consolidate in each creative destruction market cycle.
He agrees with Neo-Liberals on the phenomenon, its just through his moral lens it is a morally evil thing, while Neo-Liberals believe it is a productive function.
"Parliaments will increasingly elect social democratic parties, and democratic majorities will vote for restrictions on entrepreneurship. Increasing workers' self-management, industrial democracy and regulatory institutions would evolve non-politically into "liberal capitalism". Thus, the intellectual and social climate needed for thriving entrepreneurship will be replaced by some form of "laborism". This will exacerbate "creative destruction" (a borrowed phrase to denote an endogenous replacement of old ways of doing things by new ways), which will ultimately undermine and destroy the capitalist structure."
This basically describes Social Democracy in Europe.
This is a common Marxist critique of social democracy. They argue that social democracy a tool of the bourgeoisie to preserve power by accommodating class consciousness. I always cringe whenever people in our community use the term “cultural Marxist”; no one should use the term because it is a contradiction in terms. Marxism is a purely materialist ideology and considers categories of race, culture, and the like to be constructions of bourgeois false consciousness. In this way, a classical Marxist would argue that racial grievance politics (e.g., BLM) are bourgeois constructions that exist in order to prevent class solidarity.
That’s why I believe “cultural Marxist” is an appropriate term. The qualifier, “cultural” illustrates how Marxism is fundamentally not cultural, but economic. But instead of the bourgeoisie oppressing the proletariat, men oppress women, whites oppress blacks etc.
And democracy is, without a doubt, a tool of the ruling class
Kudos literature club team for the Mr. Taylor debate. That was fantastic.
What’s the next book for BOTM?
we're looking at USA history books - maybe one on the revolution
Excellent. Keep us updated. Looking forward to it.
We haven't settled on one title in particular yet. You should feel free to give suggestions. The criteria is a non-political text that pertains to American history, culture, and heritage; think Lewis and Clark-type stuff.
First or Second Revolution?
Have any of you read 'Which Way Western Man?' ? I just started it and I'm loving it thus far.
no i didnt know that was an actual book and not just a meme lol
I have no
Ok why do new messages seem to be showing up in <#542123221944893483> and <#405179684230266880>? I can’t see these messages and we’re done with the jared Taylor interview for the qanda. What is happening in resources?
Discord does that sometimes
I don't think there's really anything we can do about it
Mute the channel
Or mark them all as read
muting the channel isn't going to do anything
it's a problem with Discord not the specific channels
So what's going on with the club? What's the next book?
it's being decided on
When are we making Monika mascot of the server?
More than halfway through White Identity, it’s quite the eye opener. This should be a requirement for all members.
What's the premise of the book? I'd give it a read if I didn't feel like it was going over stuff I already know.
@Ryonne the book gives many examples of racism towards whites, anti white rhetoric, how the push for diversity hurts more people than it helps and how whites continuously work against their own self interest. It's all stuff you know already, but it's worth a read for the statistics and examples Taylor uses. It's a quick read. Definitely worth it.
Alright, I’ll give it a read then.
You won’t regret it, and everything is backed with facts.
Sources to the facts I mean...
For the kids
God that's hilarious
might be a bit *too* much indoctrination, though
It was a lot haha. He hasn’t drained the swamp so it is
The bad guy? George Saurus
I see Chuck Schumer, Mitch McConnell, And Hillary on the front of that book.
Who else here is reading “Ship of Fools” by Tucker?
Hey guys, being fairly new to Identitarianism, which book would be recommended to read next? I read Why We Fight and will be finishing White Identity soon.
The White Nationalist Manifesto is a really good summary of lot of identitarian ideas
You don't necessarily have to agree with all of Johnson's conclusions, but it's good to read about different suggestions for how exactly we should go about implementing our ideas so you can further refine your own ideology
@Sam Anderson it's really good. He reads the audiobook himself if you're interested in that.
While we don't use the same terminology as him, none of the policies he proposes are particularly edgy
Agreed with @Jacob . Johnson has a lot of great material. I recommend Old Right vs New Right. Also the collection from Counter Currents "Alternative Right" serves as a good historical snapshot piece with a good dose of criticism as well.
Sam Francis - Essential Writings on Race <<< a nice, quick read.
Alternative Right is good. I haven't finished reading it yet, but I really liked the first two parts
Also it's a bit dated but Peter Brimelow's 'Alien Nation' does a good job breaking down a lot of bogus claims about our immigration history and demography.
ah, yes, I read Alien Nation when I was new to this
Thanks guys, I do have that in my amazon cart so maybe I’ll start there. Also been eying Identity Rising and Signs of Identity, you guys read those?
been meaning to read it again now that I'm more knowledgeable and would probably understand it better
I haven't read either of those personally
I purchased Identity Rising and was very off put by the guy's writing style. Put down less than 15% through. Could just be my personal taste.
Awesome thanks for the recommendations guys.
do you want stuff that isn't political, but is tangentially related?
if you're new to this, A Troublesome Inheritance is a pretty good introduction to race science and a pretty easy read
it's not that long of a book, so it should be cheap
the guy who wrote it is actually a liberal, but most of the science is pretty solid
and AmRen has a review of the book that I think summarizes fairly well what the author missed
@Jacob I’m finishing up Johnson’s Manifesto. He mentions IE as a pillar of effective white advocacy. All in all, a lot of the book feels like WN 1.0, but it was a good / quick read.
I think it might feel like 1.0 because a lot of the stuff he discusses isn't really stuff that we generally lead in with
Though it's stuff we do need answers to
Ok cool I have heard of that one as well @Jacob, I have been eying some on race science. Does the Bell Curve fall into that category? Also I saw one called Race: The Realities of Human Differences
The Bell Curve is more of a general book on IQ
Which is still a useful topic to know about, but I personally think that's it's something we focus on too much
It's also extremely long. I don't know if anyone actually reads it front to back. I think your time will be better spent on books that are shorter and have more relevant information.
I haven't heard of that second book, but Iooked it up and it sounds interesting
Troublesome Inheritance is probably the first one anyone should read on race science
I heard that Why Race Matters by Mike Levin is good, but it's very deep
There's also Race, Evolution and Behavior
10,000 Year Explosion is one I've heard recommended a lot that is related to race science
It's actually on our "official" reading list
Cool thanks for all the options yeah I think a couple of the shorter ones would be better diving into before I hit bell curve. I think I’ll read the WNM and then a troublesome inheritance
That sounds like a good plan
Thanks for the help man
Of course. We like having more activity in the server, so come by if you have more questions or if there's just something interesting you read and wanna comment on.
Yeah for sure I’ll keep it in mind and hop back in here!
Definitely make sure you read the 10,000 Year Explosion.
Why Race Matters was good.
I’ll definitely do that
Great to be here
When will you begin reading your next book? Lewis & Clark grabs my attention obviously since part of my heritage.
We will decide scheduling after Sunday 3/3, when members are required have it purchased and possessed.
I bought the book and started reading. Can someone familiar with the book answer a question? There seems to be a redundancy in entries by Clark. The same entry is repeated at least twice. Is this the case throughout the book? Why is the book setup this way?
@Ryan -NJ I have a rare version of the De Voto edition - it was not set up this way. I just purchased the paperback version so I can mark it for note taking. I will let you know if it is laid out this way, but I think it's more likely your version may be flawed.
That's odd. I purchased the physical copy. It's not here yet. Hopefully the kindle version is just redundant and not missing information.
@CarletonJ Here’s a for instance. Most passages have two or three entries. Earlier ones look like shorthand?
@Ryan -NJ I referenced my copy - this is not laid out in this way. It only had one entry. The kindle version may be flawed. If you continue to have this issue - DM me and I will send you a legitimate copy.
I can also fill in the blanks to whatever you're missing if this would help
@CarletonJ I’m going to keep reading for a bit to see if things smooth out 👍
Taylor's White Identity and about 15 titles from Counter Currents deleted from Amazon.
Lizard Man is at it again.
you've been verified
You guys are reading Lewis and Clark rn correct?
Awesome. Thank you!
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