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They shoah'd themselves
I can already tell this book is going to be fantastic for what we're dealing with today. I'm not even through the prologue, and already the author has addressed the importance of optics and distancing ourselves from "self stereotype people", aka the alt right and it's LARPers. "
Idk his beliefs are founded on equality, justice, etc and so it seems his layout for revolution might not be achievable without this.
Democracy is the means and not necessarily the ends, is something he eventually says.
And the goal for revolution should be the quality for all. So I don't know if he believes revolutions could be achieved for the your own group.
He's a socialist and that's what he sees as the ideal world. He has good points like the separation of ideology and dogma.
I don't know though I could be reading this very incorrectly.
@shekelsworth he's a far leftist and probably a commie. When I bought this book, books that were "frequently bought" with it was the Communist Manifesto. I shit you not.
We need to use the methods that Marxists have used to become successful. That's why this book is a great read for any activist honestly.
Yeah I guess I just need to get more the methodology.
He's laying out his commie beliefs right now
Haha oh boy.
Yeah, we have to ignore his personal beliefs and opinions and learn from his methods.
I guess we could stop reading once he's gets to "argue(ing) that the failure to use power for more equitable distribution of the means of life for all people signals the end of the revolution in the start of the counter-revolution." 😂😂😂
Hahaha yes just glance over that section.
I wrote up a draft of an article I was going to submit for the Identitarian, it's about 1500 words. Anyone willing to take a look at it and tell me what they think?
I finished the book in my flight. It has some good stuff, but it's very obvious that he is writing this book for communists and leftists.
@JC17-OR you are exactly correct. The book came out quite sometime ago - when communism and Marxism was basically forbidden to discuss. His methods worked. Now, communism is an acceptable ideology taught in our universities. We must use the methods our opposition used to become successful.
Ignore his political opinions and take from him his political methods.
I'll be discussing in detail more about this Monday during our voice discussion.
Definitely, the big takeaways from this book that I've seen this far is the development of communication, how our phrases affect our optics, and how we and our enemies perceive each other's ethics and influence.
Looking forward to the Monday discussion.
I'll likely circle back and re-read some stuff.
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I still haven't gotten my book in the mail yet,got 1 that i ordered same day that came today but not the Rules for Radicals book yet.
@celticflame When do you expect it? I could overnight you a copy tomorrow.
I hope it gets here tomorrow since i ordered it same day,should be here soon. Let me see if i can track it,get back to you
It says its in Las Vegas, NV now,so maybe it will make SF or Sacramento tomorrow, i hope,will see
That was at 8am this morning and looks like a day or so btwn states,was coming from CT,used thriftbooks-they have been decent just takes a lil longer sometimes, not amazon & is cheaper
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So rules for radicals eh? I'll be sure to pick it up.
Yep,missed discussion tonight,still waiting on mine. Hope you do!
What's a good book with red pills about the food industry? I was reading an article showing that white's (and only whites) testosterone levels have taken a huge nosedive in the last generation, and that has to be from the food and water we eat. They are literally making us infertile, on top of everything else. What's the CoC of the food industry?
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@CarletonJ thanks man hopefully I can keep up I got plenty of reading on my plate already
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Just got through reading Rules For Radicals, it was a pretty thought provoking read and it broke down many of my pre conceived notions about activism. I'm looking forward to discissing with everybody on Tuesday.
Concise and blunt eh?
There is a lot of material on (((Saul))) on YouTube. Interviews, docs etc.
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Getting my study figured out at the new house, just finished building a bookshelf yesterday, and can finally start a collection. Some recommendations would be fantastic.
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@SamanthaM is an excellent source for recommendations.
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someone redpill me on yukio mishima
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@CarletonJ I feel dead right right now. Is tomorrow fine for the poll?
Cool. I'm going to go to sleep extra early today, have some serious deep sleep, hopefully wake up at a good time, and sort everything out tomorrow.
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CoC? Very nice.
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Hey y’all! I’m a philosophy major from Oklahoma can’t wait to talk lit
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Sorry couldn't make it to discussion. Been taking care of my dad,just out of hospital, lil sleep. Probably way behind in reading too. Having to step up taking care of dad & getting things squared away.
@everyone Quick. Does anyone have a good take on the Aspen Institute. Thoughts/opinions?
Hit up the Louisiana guys about that one, especially Jean-Baptiste.
They’re the ones pozzing up a bunch of different cities including New Orleans @SamanthaM
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heyo boyos, I've got a question... how much of our intelligence is based on genetics, and how much of it is based on economic factors? If I'm not mistakes, 80% of our intelligence is based on genetics.
I don’t think that question is answerable unless we know the exact contribution of every or most contributions made by individual instances of genetic variation. You can answer questions like “how much of the variance in intelligence in population X is due to genetic factors?,” but questions like that require knowledge of the exact contributions of molecular genetic/epigenetic factors to determine.
@here an academic who I trust has asked for my ethical defense of Identitarianism. I have written the following draft. Please review and critique my work.
The human species is clearly divisible into subspecies or “races” by geography, breeding patterns, phenotypical differences, and genetic distance. For rational beings, the material implies the metaphysical as matter by its forms is conceptualized in the mind. This biological fact of race, then, represents an a priori extended family within the human species that includes moral and aesthetic traditions that reveal a collective self; or, in other words, race is a universal-particular of human nature. As such, the different races develop different ideas about the good. It follows that societies should be as racially homogenous as possible to flourish. The moral laws applying to this extended family are much like those applying a person’s immediate family, specifically concerning love and duty. A mother loves her child more than other children, so also should people within a certain ethno-cultural community (expressed within a race) feel a special filial love (or “identity”) between them and act in accordance to actualize their collective self.
you could draw from here for help
sounds good though
nice. I'm ready to get on that Reading Rainbow
@William_1994 - WA I missed this somehow, this is really well wrote. The only thing I would add is citations.
@CarletonJ I have edited my draft to appeal to race as an instrument for community and establishing virtue, rather than as an a priori concept. Although the latter is closer to my position, I feel that my new draft will be more persuasive as it appeals to the Thomist ethics to which my friend adheres.
Communities arise within a specific people whom share history, language, and customs; that almost always means within a race. These communities allows us to comprehend the telos of being human, although expressed differently; consider the aesthetic in black and white churches. As such, we must be aware of our race to establish the virtues that lead to our flourishing. In this way, we may think of a community as a family and a race as an extended family. The moral laws applying to this extended family are much like those applying a person’s biological family, specifically concerning love and duty. A mother loves her child more than other children, so also should people within a certain ethno-cultural community (expressed within a race) feel a special filial love between them and act in accordance to actualize their virtues.
@William_1994 - WA This is perfect. Have you ever considered writing articles or even a book?
I used to write occasional articles under my pseudonym ("Cultural Heresy"), but I deleted everything after Cville. I would like to do that again in future.
@William_1994 - WA wait a minute, do you use Twitter? One of the accounts I follow is Cultural Heresy.
Yes, that's me haha
Hahaha this is crazy. I've been following you for some time now. I enjoy your tweets.
<#393247525198364676> is there any good books you would recommend.
@Rooster Cogburn i would check out the different categories in this server
the group is currently reading culture of critique currently
previously we read White Identity by Jared Taylor. i strongly suggest you read this one
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When we migrate to rocketchat, will all of this be transferred over?
@everyone has anyone read The Prince by Machiavelli
Yea I read it a couple years ago. I would say that book and a couple other books by Machiavelli is worth reading
His moral compass is pretty messed up though
I read that and a compilation of his political writings
What do you score?
@Procella Eques I have never heard anything about his morals
I read the prince
What did you think?
@TV I’m gonna read it again because some of it slipped my mind.
I think most people understand he's strategically right, but disagree with the morals behind it. That's why I like it
It’s a pretty good book
I’ve never read the entire thing, the parts I’ve read were really insightful
@Tron that’s good I read all of it I just got to go back and read it again it’s been awhile
I’ve finished the Prince recently it’s short. Everyone should take a look at it
The stuff about not using foreign soldiers is very good advice
If anyone want to read it, these are the oral arguments in Jared Taylor's lawsuit against Twitter.
Very cool share!
A very important article for Christians to read for the current illegal alien debate.
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Hey, I recently ordered a few books and am looking for more suggestions when I finish those.
Tryna make my brain bigger 📚
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You guys still talking books?
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Is this channel dead, or does anyone want to read a book together?
Currently reading "The Republic for Which It Stands: The United States during Reconstruction and the Gilded Age, 1865-1896" by Richard White
@Nemets I think it'll pick back up when the school year picks up. This is also a great server for promoting the Guardian's program
Does anyone know what I can read on the US history? Something that can give me a good overview since I'd be starting with very basic knowledge (a foreigner here, don't judge).
@Nemets Hmm, all of them from the beginning? My knowledge is really rudimentary. Just need basic facts, with some analysis, what happened when and why.
wish there was a good book that summarized the entire history, but just too broad
Good ol' Wikipedia! Thank you, Nemets.
@Nemets It can't be Chapaev on your avatar. But that's who comes to mind.
just to let everyone know that Barnes and noble is going out of business soon they have beautiful leather bounded books for sale Too for 35 dollars
Barnes and Noble is going out of business??
Я редко встречаю людей, которые знают Чапаева
yes @Nota Bene - NY after this Christmas they are probably going to close up shop
Не то чтобы знаю. А вы русский?
I saw this happen to borders 10 years ago
That's crazy. I guess it's not that surprising. I should swing by a store, see if they have good sales.
Нет, я немец
I love leather bound books