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I'm going to be honest and say I am having trouble with keeping up with the reading. Not sure if we got away from the 50 pgs/week or what but I am way behind
We did, because 50 a week was *way* too short. It was like 10 minutes a day.
And I'm not even a fast reader.
I tried to find some Nicholas Wade books at the library but they only got his one on genetics not the race stuff. Is his work good in general and worth reading?
Probably, but it might not be what you're looking for
My library has zero decent books on relevant subjects
No De Benoist, no Faye, no Evola. There's not even many normie cuckservative works
Thought you guys would get a laugh out of this. This is how I read controversial literature in public areas.
Wayyy behind too
But been bit preoccupied with events,sorry
If anyone is behind, that is totally fine. You can just start White Identity with us in February. But please finish Why We Fight in your spare time! It's so good!
I wonder if there's a place you can buy book sleeves
@CarletonJ that’s brilliant and funny but also a sad state of affairs.
>reading the section on Regional Segregation
>gets to the part on California
>”now the group will know of our struggle”
Has anyone read any Julius Evola? I just ordered two of his books and wanted to know what people thought of him.
I like his work a lot @Hessian. Faye has a decent critique of traditionalism to keep in mind when you read, though. Don't get bogged down in the intellectualization of antiquity and tradition; tradition is something living and breathing, not something to be analyzed like a museum piece that's dead and gone.
Evola has very fascinating writing, but just make sure to read it as a supplement to (meta)political work.
Arktos, I think, published an English translation of his Handbook for Right-wing Youth, which is really easy to get into compared to stuff like Revolt Against the Modern World. Regardless of where you start, I'd definitely recommend the Handbook as well @Hessian
I ordered, “Revolt against the modern world” and “metaphysics of war.”
I'm part of the way through revolt, it's very good. When I first started it I hadn't read any nationalist literature at all so I had a bit of a hard time with it, but it's a pretty damn good read
And I will keep your advice on wind while reading.
Evola's Platonic metaphysics are problematic for me and should be as such for anyone else who calls themselves a "race realist." Evola rejects biological race for a more metaphysical idea. And yet, my problem with Neo-Platonism expands further. Nietzsche's critique (in *Beyond Good and Evil*) of Platonism is spot on. Everything for them is about rejecting the material world; this becomes masturbatory and delusional if taken to its extreme conclusion, in which the person is alienated from his/her body and all realpolitik.
Also, Faye is absolutely right that Evola constructs a false dilemma between tradition and modernity. Tradition is a principle and out of time, but modernity is a historical period. It behooves us, then, to synthesize these concepts as Faye does in Archeofuturism.
All that said, Evola is still useful. His emphasis on tradition, order, and transcendence is the start of an important discourse for modern minds. And yet, like Plato, you should read him with a healthy degree of criticism.
@William_1994 - WA on the metaphysical front, I have recently begun to wonder if different races and species attract souls from different sources. Some say that DNA is shaped like a receptor, and if it is in fact a receptor, who knows what variety of signals it is capable of receiving. Just a random thought.
@Benjamin Matthew-MI Welcome to the ILC server! Feel free to join us tomorrow night for our last discussion on Why We Fight. I believe we are getting together at 8 EST
Sounds good. Thank you.
I find Evola frustrating af, precisely because of what @William_1994 - WA said above.
Just sharing a video I hadn't seen before. It's D. Duke addressing Faye at Amren 2006. Faye responds. Gives some insight to Faye's take on the JQ, which we discussed. https://youtu.be/RELmEPUy6lQ ... also linked are Amren's and Duke's responses to the discussion.
Didn't intend for screenshot preview. If I should have linked that differently, please let me know.
Ya good, bruv
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Meredith Brace of San Diego, California, believed in integration. She lived in
a white area, but the neighborhood school, Harding Elementary, was 90 percent
Hispanic. She thought whites should go to Harding rather than escape to a white
school. Even before her son was old enough to enroll, she joined the Harding
PTA, raised money for Harding, and went door-to-door to promote it to white
neighbors. After her son began to attend, she became president of the PTA, and
set up after-school art and theater classes to bring whites and Hispanics together.
They were disbanded because so few people took part.
She kept her son at Harding for three years before finally giving up. “[W]e
have nothing in common [with Hispanics],” she said. “Every time my husband
and I would go over for an event, my husband would feel like it was his first
time. We haven’t made any friends.” Her son made no friends either. “He hasn’t
been invited to a birthday party,” she explained. “There is absolutely no after-
school interaction. For his birthday, he invited four of his classmates. Only one
@Deleted User That's really cool, man. Do you often attend meetings like that?
Polish do that too, my ex who was polish told me to never say to her parents that I had some Ukrainian.
Second. Both parents were full blooded polish.
Hung out with other Polish, went to Polish church, etc
I hear him
white culture is difficult for people to grasp in America because it is the dominant culture (still) and so it's just "normal".
Mrs. Brace joined her neighbors and transferred her son to Hope Elementary
School, which was still 73 percent white. As one white parent explained, “[I]f
half of [the neighborhood] is going in that direction, maybe we can carpool.”1
It is lunch time at the Westerly Hills Elementary School in Charlotte, North
Carolina. Black and white children sit next to each other in what seems to be
complete disregard for race. The school appears to have passed what educators
call the “lunchroom litmus test,” of whether children make friends across racial
lines. But the test is rigged. The children have assigned seats; that is the only
way to get blacks and whites to eat together.
@SamanthaM I agree. It was just strange to see it coming from poz Southern California.
I went to a high school that was 95% white 👌🏼
just googled the demographics, 97% white
What a shame
rural kentucky 👌🏼
Any political meeting
I go to this club's meetings weekly.
Dude, you're a really high energy guy. Keep it up, bro
@Deleted User That's the Libertarian group? What was the name again?
i think a large part of it is an attraction to exoticism
they are different, and thus more attractive as a result
That could be true, and is pushed by the MSM all the time.
Discussing the benefits of mixing
the word is weeb trash
During the civil rights era, churches made a passionate, moral case for
integration. Have they practiced what they preached? Churches are not governed
by the same civil rights laws as schools and employers. This explains why they
are some of the most segregated institutions in America. According to one study,
nearly 95 percent of churches have congregations that are at least 80 percent one
race or ethnic group.143 In a school or neighborhood, this would be considered
Churches have tried to fight this tendency, mostly without success. In 1965,
New Covenant Presbyterian Church was the first church in Miami established
specifically to encourage integration. It prompted glowing news stories about its
integrated congregation, choir, and administration. By 2006, it had only one
Fred Caldwell, bishop of Greenwood Acres Full Gospel Baptist Church in
Shreveport, Louisiana, got so tired of seeing only black faces in his congregation
of 5,000 that he started paying whites to show up for services: $5.00 a hour on
Sundays and $10.00 on Thursday evenings. “God wants a rainbow in his
church,” he explained.
I often watch the mangoos
i have been to a black church
it was profoundly uncomfortable
Yeah man. I grew up Irish Catholic. I don't like that shit
roman catholic here
I meant Irish Roman Catholic
Like Roman Catholic
But everybody was Irish
black churches are just intolerably unstructured
much like the negro
In the NE, different European groups practice Roman Catholicism slightly differently
we're all catholic as far as im concerned
let me see the stats on that
Every Sunday. Sorry
I didn't like it though
let me see the stats on catholic racemixing
the catholic church on my campus prays for refugees every mass 🙄
At Holy Trinity Catholic Church in Saint Louis, parishioners sort themselves into different services by race and language. As Mexican-born Angelica Garcia explained, “When I come to Mass at noon, the Anglos leave, and [Latinos] go in and we don’t even say ‘hi’ to each other.”150 Many Christians simply accept separation. In Beaumont, Texas, two United Methodist congregations—one white, one black—merged because both had declining memberships. Most of the members stayed despite the merger because the newly-united church held separate services, one for whites and one for
blacks.151 Anyone who ran a business or school this way would face a federal lawsuit.
I can look it up if you guys really need me to
I need it, bro
This is the source Wikipedia cites
i used to go to a southern baptist church in KY and it was white as the driven snow
I've thought of switching over to baptism.
It's not loading for some reason
Baptism has hardline "you cannot do x or you will go to hell" going for it
Hit me with the Wikipedia article
@Daniel Turch To your point on Catholicism
"As Aquinas recognized in De Regno, “Intercourse with foreigners, according to Aristotle’s Politics, is particularly harmful to civic custom. For it is inevitable that strangers, brought up under other laws and customs, will in many cases act as the citizens are not wont to act and thus, since the citizens are drawn by their example to act likewise, their own civic life is upset.” For Aquinas, it is political habits that matter, not merely approval of abstract principles. Unbridled immigration threatens the continuity of political habits that is essential to the survival of a nation."
F for the south
Are my messages sending?
How much miscegenation is even possible in WV?
lol you guys are misreading the map
Sorry dude, I only skimmed it
*DJ, rewind that F*
holy shit it's not letting me send
At NewSong Community Church in Irvine, California, half-Korean Senior
Pastor David Gibbons also worked very hard to integrate his congregation. He
preached what he called a “theology of discomfort,” meaning that people should
mix with people unlike themselves. He hired black and Hispanic assistants but
his 1,500-member congregation remained 80 percent Asian.
Stacy Heisey-Terrell, a white woman, says racial reconciliation is a big part of
her Christianity. She and her mixed-race husband drove half an hour every
Sunday to attend Evergreen Baptist Church in Rosemead, California, another
Korean congregation that was trying hard to integrate. It didn’t work. “I can’t
take this anymore,” she said, of being the only white woman. “There’s no one
like me.” She was mortified when she organized a church picnic, and the
Koreans would not touch her bean salad.
Victory World Church in Norcross, Georgia, is one of the three to five percent
of churches that are integrated. In 2004, its congregation of 4,500 was 60 percent
black, 30 percent white and 10 percent Hispanic and Asian—but that was a
difficult achievement. “To get to those 4,500, we have gone through thousands
and thousands of people over the last 141⁄2 years,” said co-pastor Dennis Rouse.
He said that many whites don’t like a black majority, and many blacks “prefer to
be over there with ‘the brothers’ in an all-black church.”
I had to make it shorter
Took me like 10 mins to find that
I'll be right back, everyone keep talking
Irish are absolutely known for their high verbal IQ
A lot like our greatest allies
At one time, “magnet schools” were supposed to solve the problem of white flight by making some urban public schools so attractive they would lure back whites who had fled to the suburbs. This approach has failed. Kansas City, Missouri, is the most prominent case of a heroic magnet effort. A federal judge took over the school district in 1985, and made the city pay nearly $2 billion for the most grandiose schools in America. Over the next 12 years, Kansas City got 15 new schools with such things as television and animation studios, a model United Nations with simultaneous interpreting equipment, a robotics lab, a planetarium, a mock court room with jury deliberation rooms, an Olympic-sized swimming pool with an underwater viewing room, and field trips to Mexico and Senegal. A former Soviet Olympic fencing coach was hired for a high school team. There was a $900,000 television campaign to tell whites about
the new improvements, and if white students were not on a bus route, the city sent taxis for them. It didn’t work. By 1997, when Kansas City finally gave up, it had the most extravagant schools in the country, but the percentage of whites was lower than ever and blacks’ test scores had not budged.36 Since then, despite the gold-plated schools, the district has lost so many students—down from 35,000 in 2000 to under 18,000 in 2010—that it was near bankruptcy and considering closing nearly half its schools just to stay afloat.37
i've got a comment on this one
Jump in, bro
Let's let him talk
Los Angeles had 162 magnet schools in 2006, but of that number 87 were virtually all black or Hispanic. Almost all of the ones that were considered integrated—where whites were at least 30 percent—were well outside of central Los Angeles, in areas where whites lived anyway. John Garham, who was the district specialist for the magnet effort, conceded that “we are not ever going to be able to get the white population to come into certain areas.”
Los Angeles is often called the most diverse city in the United States— perhaps in the world. Whites have been a minority in Los Angeles County since 1990, and its inhabitants represent more than 140 nationalities and speak 130 different languages.24 The city should be a showcase for diversity’s strengths. The schools, in particular, should be ideal opportunities to practice “contact theory.” Southern California also has an important advantage in that the most salient racial mixes are not the historically freighted one of black and white.
Blacks and Hispanics, for example, came into contact with no past grievances— no real past at all. There is nothing like the specters of slavery, Jim Crow, lynching, or segregation to poison their relations. If anything, two groups that share common experiences as minorities should find contact especially rewarding.
They do not. For decades, students in Los Angeles have stubbornly defied the expectations of those who praise diversity. For decades, calming racial tension— usually between blacks and Hispanics—has been one of the top goals of the school district. In 1999, the district was putting more effort into conflict resolution than any other organization in the city.25 It did not appear to be succeeding.
Discussions about how blacks and whites were to be brought together came to be known as “contact theory,” and its most prominent spokesman was Gordon Allport. In his 1953 book, The Nature of Prejudice, he wrote that prejudice “may be reduced by equal status contact between majority and minority groups in the
pursuit of common goals. The effect is greatly enhanced if this contact is sanctioned by institutional supports . . . .”11 Schools were the best setting for contact. White children, whose prejudices had not yet hardened, would mix with black children under conditions of equality and strict institutional supervision.
Since the 19th century, the Cherokee have considered the descendants of their
black slaves to be full members of the tribe, and in 2006, the Cherokee supreme
court reaffirmed black membership. In 2007, however, the tribe as a whole
overruled its court and voted to expel all 2,800 black members.
If California is the future of the United States, Los Angeles may offer a lesson. In 1960, it was 72 percent white, but in just ten years that figure dropped to 59 percent, and by 2000 the city was only 33 percent white. During the 1980s, while every other racial group was gaining in numbers, Los Angeles County lost 330,000 whites, and a startling 570,000 during the 1990s.100 Where did they go? Beginning in the 1980s, California saw a major shift of whites from southern, immigrant-heavy regions to the white north.101 Many moved to Nevada County, which Mel Mouser, the police chief of the town of Grass Valley, called “the largest concentration of Caucasians in the state of California.” In the 15 years ending in 1995, the county’s population grew by no less than 65 percent and
remained 93 percent white. The newcomers were looking for the kind of homogeneity they grew up with but had lost to immigrants. As Chief Mouser explained, the newcomers “bring with them the common strain of thought: Don’t let it be like where I came from.”102
From the Swedish Gunnar Myrdal's 1944 book, proving Sweden has been cucked for almost 100 years
*White prejudice and discrimination keep the Negro low in standards of living, health, education,
manners and morals. This, in its turn, gives support to white prejudice. White prejudice and Negro
standards thus mutually ‘cause’ each other*
Doris Wilkinson was the first black to enter the University of Kentucky after the 1954 Brown decision, but lost faith in integration, which she calls an “absolute, abysmal failure.” Now a sociologist at the University of Kentucky, she said she looked forward to neighborhood schools that reflect residential segregation. “I hope we get those schools with all deliberate speed,” she said, quoting the Brown ruling.
F for my alma mater
Good talk, guys. I'm out
thanks for joining
I think im going to dip out as well. Great discussion as usual!
Hey, everyone! I have been looking for an app that can read PDFs while I'm driving, doing chores, etc.
I discovered eReader Prestigio and LOVE it. You can change the pitch, speed, and voice. It always saves all your progress so you can pick back up in your book.
I actually was able to tweak my readers voice so much that it sounds like Tara Mccarthy
DONT YOU DARE FINISH IT
EAT IT, NERD
Whatever, goy. Tara Mccarthy reads me bedtime stories.
Does your gf know?
Maybe I can switch the voice and slow it down to sound like Jared Taylor.
Grandpa Jared could read you stories about his childhood.
Man, I would do anything to hear Jared read Tom Sawyer.
I'll edit all the words "white" to "huwite" so it's authentic
A labor of love
Maybe we can bribe him when we meet him.
I'm in the patron server, during the dinner I will bug him about it
"We'll have six white children each if you do audio books."
We're going to bug Jared to read Tom Sawyer during the patron dinner
He hasn't read it?? But good idea. Hope that goes well.
No, I mean to us. You're not going?
Sorry, can't go. Unfortunately, there are a lot of reasons. Hope you all have a fantastic time!
Let me know how it goes though!
@SamanthaM it should be everyone's goal to leave a few grand to each of their progeny, at least. Even if I'm not fortunate enough to have children, I hope to be able to gift something to all of my nieces and nephews. All of my siblings are going to have big families. I was pretty fortunate in that regard. The least I can do to pay back my parents is to ensure that their genetic line is successful, even if it isn't my own
Sounds good, I'll be there!
Excellent, thank you
Sweet thank you!
We meet every Monday at 8p EST to discuss the current book we are all reading. If you fall behind in reading, or haven't read at all, feel free to still join and we'll catch you up.
@Deleted User Welcome to IE /lit/, there are tons of great resources posted already. Join us every Monday at 8 pm for a Book of the Month chat
@TomFarrea#7777 what's up, bro, someone will get you set up when they're by a computer. I would, but I'm out of the house rn
@SuperTomPerry -RI You're all set. Feel free to join us Monday night at 8p EST for our discussion on White Identity by Jared Taylor. DM me with any questions.
My uncle wrote a book and if it is any good I will post it here for anyone who wants to read it(no dox plz), but before I finish it and post the title I wanted to share this joke from it because it's too good to wait. "5000 years ago Moses said, "Park your camel, pickup your shovel, mount your ass, and I shall lead you to the Promised Land." 5000 years later, Franklin D. Roosevelt said, "Lay down your shovel, sit on your ass, light up a Camel, this is the promised land.""
"Today Richard Nixon will tax your shovel, sell your camel, kick your ass and tell you there is no promised land."
Y'all NEED this! @everyone
@SamanthaM I wasn't going to post the title until I finished reading it myself but what the hell. It's called "Relating to Ancient Learning" by Gary Wietgrefe
There's some pretty red pilled stuff in here. I honestly am wondering what his conclusions are.
I think so let me see if I can find it.
Sweet! Definitely picking up a copy!
I'm sure he'll appreciate it. I think this book has some potential for being popular with the Alt-right. He defends McCarthy in the second chapter.
Holy Shit my Boomer uncle is a hard core race realist!
What's everyone's opinion on marking up books? Like highlighting and such.
@SamanthaM its a must. Engage the text every time you read. I highlight and annotate. Helps for going back as well and quickly finding important passages.
Great point, but what about for older books?
@SamanthaM I prefer ebooks for that reason. I use the the color codes transparent sticky arrows they sell in the office supply section if I'm reading a hard copy.
I don't find it useful, but that might be because I'm not trained in how to do it in any effective way
This might seem strange, but I take pictures of paragraphs I like
I use a picture to text app and save paragraphs in a memo folder
@SamanthaM do you have any recommendations for a book about colonial Africa? I am looking for something like a memoir from a colonists perspective. Preferably Southern Africa. Rhodesia would be ideal. Thanks!
Never read this book, but I have heard is is pretty good. Not sure if it is what you are looking for though.
@Zyzz if you look in the European history section, you will find a few books there about Rhodesia. Specifically The Great Betrayal & When The Crocodile Eats The Sun
I've been adding books to Metapeida to help grow the platform. @Zyzz has been helping out too. If anyone else is interested, it would be great to have an army of people updating the platform. Books are probably the easiest thing to create pages for. If anyone is interested, let me know.
Here are some examples