depends on what you're trying to do with it

yer a bit facked tho because hardware prices are going up due to plebs trying to mine using midrange GPUs and other goofy shit

or rather have gone up

and will hopefully go down in the next year or so but we'll see

I just upgraded my rig with a used one I got off Facebook marketplace

I'm happy with it

So what you're saying is that I'm jumping in with the PC master race at the wrong time

yeah you might be able to do some second hand tomfoolery, especially with the minerplebs

at like the single window of wrong time in the past 10ish years lol

I didn't really get into the gaming thing until late in highschool

My envy M6 is enough for me right now. I'm trying to save for a house

prior to this AMD released some nice 970 tier GPUs without the memory fuckery for much cheaper, harddrives were starting to get cheaper (but now people are using those for mining too apparently) and prior to THAT we had the endless 360/ps3 gen, which meant you could build a mid tier rig and run basically everything

that said, MY PC probably isnt too hard to build, but it's not ideal for modern gaming

Thanks Beemann I didn't ever really have a PC set up that was good for gaming especially online so I was always on console

I have an fx8350, a 970 (which I wouldnt recommend) about 8gb of ram, and I probably spent about 200 on the PSU and mobo combined. Case was like 50 bucks

I dont play turbo newshit outside of Kingdom Come, which does kinda run like ass (40 almost everywhere). Nier ran fine though for the most part

Siege runs fine as well

My friends tried to talk me into building one from the ground up a few years ago and in hindsight I probably should have

it's actually not that hard to do. Everything just kinda slots in outside of your CPU fan

some of those are real fuckers

I just bought a 2016 model HP Envy M6 for 150 bucks. I had to sacrifice some graphics for now, but it records, and edits videos, plus plays blizzard games. It will get me by until I move, and then I can build one

I was told I need something pretty good to run the games I play the most which is PUBG BF1 and the witcher 3

the thing with notebooks is that you're pretty much gonna get fucked on hardware for the price point unless you get a really sweet deal

I run TW3 pretty shakey, I will admit

But they're easy to move

it does run though

I mean, I wouldnt take my PC on the bus but it's not hard to move my tower around. You can get desktops pretty small these days, even without leaving ATX

issue is that you cant fit in bigger GPUs and sometimes that's needed

Yeah considering that TW3 runs a tad janky on console I can imagine it might run bad if you don't have a good set up

I have a thinkpad, I just dont use it for anything newer than VTM:B

and I got it cheap+refurbished

For me it's convenience. I can grab my notebook, shove it in a bag, and bring it to my mom and dad's for the weekend and still work and/or game

I had a notebook that was pretty good for simple games but my little brother searched porn on it and killed the fuckin thing

yeah I've brought my laptop with me to visit my dad. The thing is that I'd honestly rather game on my main PC, so it's just for word processing and browsing with a larger screen at this point
and tinkering, because it's a linux machine

Mine was mainly for school and reports for my old job

I don't really have the money to have two systems. Otherwise I probably would

2systems is golden, but it's not like I bought anything super high end for either

I got my laptop for like 300 CDN, which at the time was probably honestly about 200 real dollars

How do I get my orange font?

@Ragglefraggle07 hey man. You gotta be a Patreon subscriber to the channel.

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You people are illiterate.

What if I like being gagged? ;P

slower daddy

Good God.

Just became one @Chump_or_Champ

Ah got it

Google.com

what's people's opinion on armored skeptic and shoeonhead?

as individual content creators

not their relationship

same as other 6 gorillion anti-sjw channels

agreed

I don't understand their appeal

Greg is a cunt, too

is it possible to paste hyperlinks in this chat?

youtube.com

hmm

doesn't work

only if you believe hard enough

videolinks

nah not embed, just a link to click. is that possible?

yeah

<#266400976267640833>

nah how about here, or a PM, like -> 9gag.com

no bueno?

new to this discord shit

you usually can

I'm guessing someone abused it

cuznow we cant

Links are restricted to certain chat channels.

I didn't want channels getting clogged.

understood. thanks

if I PM someone a link, say reddit.com. Would it be a hyperlink?

shut up gravity well

nobody loves you

DMs always have links active.

Aw.

My feelings are hurt.

die in a hole

Imma just ban Heb for hurting my feelings.

thanks

suck my ass gravity

@Deleted User Greg is so smug i can smell his farts whenever i watch one of his videos, his popularity skyrocketed after he started banging Shoe, and he coasts off her fame, anyone who likes Armoured Skeptic just watch one of his videos and tell me that after he spouts one of his opinions ( and that's all they are) he puts the most insufferable smug/smell your own farts south park look n his face as if he's just enlightened the world,now i'm not advocating for violence here,but i'm 6'4 ex boxer/rugby player and if i ever met him things wouldn't go well for him.

wut

same

1v1

club penguin style

1v1 Modern Warfare Remastered style

@Classic Rando I feel a need to like his videos cause he's an anti-SJW. But when I watched em, I logged off feeling dumber and dirty.

@Chump_or_Champ lol, he's only anti SJW for the subs, because it's popular, he bashed Bearing for a video he did against a bedroom feminist, then on a livestream with Kristi Winters potato headed slave Kevin Logan completely misrepresented Bearing and made out as if he didn't address any of her points and just shouted at her, also changed her age to 14, a number he plucked straight out of his ass,watch the Kevin Logan Skeptic and Shoe stream, but run a bath first so afterwards you can clean the smell of failure that seeps through youtube straight into your head.

There was also the sketchy shilling the two of them did, which everyone shit on forever goodboy Harmful Opinions for pointing out

RIP Harmful's YT presence

@Classic Rando wow. Grimey. I've found that Bearing is pretty consistent.

I like his shit. Sometimes he shit posts and that stuff is hilarious.

I think the better way to describe Bearing is to say that sometimes he doesn't shitpost.

fuck man

<@281975179721310218> that sucks, my sister is a fucking tranny so I know that feel bro

How do i get on the show. First time discord user here

<@281975179721310218> I'm sorry to hear your woes man. My godmother is in the same boat

@TheInquirer essentially, pay

That's the short answer

Whattt Matt and Blond never said anything about that

Patrons get priority. And there are so many that they rarely get to non patrons

But they are trying

So be patient with them

I got bullied into becoming a patreon

Oh. Bummer . I might as well get off of here now, then.

I did it willingly, but I can't call in. I told Matt not to worry about orange font

I work second

Am i in line or something?

I see no instructions about what this place is

@TheInquirer if I could gift you my call in priority, I would definitely. I can't use it

Lol thanks

I think you go into the roll-call chat and make a hashtag rollcall

Rather, waiting room chat

#rollcall

No...show roll call

Did it....

Hmm, do i need to be in another room to be chosen?

Let me dm you. I know patreon is the surest way, but you have other options

Do you think they would pick up a celebrity before a patreaon?

I think they'd urge a celebrity to do a private interview for the Sunday show

Does tbis server close on it's own?

No. It's open all the time. Drop in and chat with everyone. There are some good conversations

Love how J Edgar is the defacto admin in the general text tonight

I'm no admin. Just trying to make sure people feel welcome

It's that northern Wisconsin hospitality.

JEEZ guys, throw in a dollar a month already, become a patreon, I'd put the value of my time (ie making sure my call is answered, rather than sitting, waiting and hoping) worth far more than a dollar, and that dollar buys you 4 shows.

@Chump_or_Champ I love Bearing 🐻, unlike Greg he actually has a moral code, and sure sometimes he straight up just shitposts, but who doesn't, but most of his content is actually countering the bullshit spouted by other people, often the Fisti and her crew of the most insufferable soy boys? Zirs? Shims? Well fuck knows what their made up pronouns are, the point is, there is a small army of them, and they are obsessed with Bearing and spread lies about him etc, for example they spread the rumour that Sugar Tits was a child Bearing had brainwashed and was holding against her will lol.

morning all! Hope everyone is in for a totally radical day. <3

does anyone know if matt has a regular discord??

if this is the one; then awesome

This is it are you his stalker though

I can't get into the Wednesday show because of scheduling issues. However this is one of the only streams I watch, so I toss money at it

@Saint maybe it's Brandi with an I

@J Edgar oh dear she found his secret white supremacist misogynist refuge on discord

I always theorized that Brandi with an I started crushing on those smooth, dulcet tones. But then a few videos in, realized the context behind the videos

especially if she started with something more social and less political. I bet if my show takes off, I get a lot of the anti-bullying crowd coming to sit at my feet and fawn at me, because that's currently my most widespread video. But they all will leave when they see that I'm against authoritarian government

That's the most likely course but who knows you drop enough subtle undertones you might pull then over to your side subliminally

@p'rg classic you didn't answer us are you Matt's stalker

Hey guys and gals

Hello

how are you? almost friday

I am currently between jobs actually. Time has very quickly become meaningless. I long for work on Monday- something you will not hear me say 4 months from now

Hope things are well on your end

what's up wyatt

nm my man..... just busy with school and more school. and running my server on here @J Edgar

There are a ton of people who have discord servers. I just found out my friend Hanz has one. I think I'm the only person in the server that knows his real name

lol yeah for sure

Why did he do this..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iHswQmC6sY

I can't believe the police commissioner apologized they are just gonna pile on after this watch I bet they are gonna call for administrative action against the arresting officers

this is just awful! not happy right now

The commissioner thing

yes

Like I said man never apologize all it does is throw a big ass flag up that says " you win I give up "

yeah.... now i will have to add that to my video i'm making as well. i haven't even finished the first Starbucks part

Idk what ya'll are talking about, but yes. Never aplogize about anything

This whole situation was bad enough with Starbucks doing the whole " racial unbiasing " BS

Rather than even getting into the whole "apology" discussion, force anyone who thinks you own them one to explain exactly what you did wrong.

Then watch them stumble trying to explain why you should apologize.

@@TheInquirer the Philly police commissioner apologized to the guys who got booted from starbucks

about a whole ten min statement and they have changed their policy just because of this ONE Starbucks incident

link me your channel in dm, wyatt. I'll totally do follow for follow

And now it's to late to back out they won

@Saint damn, that's fucked up.

@J Edgar i will send you a dm of my channel link...you have one too?

@TheInquirer I know

I can't condone with the commissioner said because I myself would have kicked them out. I work in the service industry myself and I don't take shit from anybody if you're not buying I don't care who you are you get the hell out.

Same here I work in convenience store if you aren't making a purchase then leave it's about a businesses right to refuse

The problem is that Starbucks has essentially been too permissive with this in the past. That news lady on MSNBC was right, it is normal for women in yoga pants to sit in starbucks all day, use the wifi, restroom, and couches, and never pay for a thing.

There are different standards, but it's not racism.

This is true they don't need the training BS they need to fix their standard and refuse service those who are not patrons of the business

@Jeremy-Retard Jerem, that's true. I've done it myself lol

But, evennif they were being racist, idc. They are allowed to be in my book.

@TheInquirer the beauty of a free market

Right

If you don't like the policy then choose another business

I agree that freedom of association is more important than anything. But unfortunately we have SCOTUS decisions and civil-rights-era legislation that convinces people that businesses cannot discriminate in any way.

In order to go the right direction on this, we kind of have to undo the notion that private businesses cannot discriminate.

Yeah I agree

I agree. But it could never happen. Whatever cabal is runnung the show in our government is hell bent on amassing a mixxed race population.

Any legislation that hinders that goal will not be tolerated. This is post national (in terms of nations of people and government) America.

Ironically this is only causing further pillarization

political groups become more distant, regardless of how closely they may adhere to the same solutions to the same problems

which then leads to talks (however empty) of secession and balkanization. The "policy of unity" leading to its opposite
But I like to think that's just because people can detect commies pretty well now

I agree. I think a nation (of similar culture and genealogy) of people must govern themselves. Post 1970 America is treading thin ice.

It's hard not get pulled into that perspective. It's getting harder and harder every day for me

Don't let my tangent stop the conversation. You all were talking about this police commissioner and apologizing....?

culture yes, I dont care about ethnicity. Like I was saying in another channel, I've had Fijians and Asians argue more strongly for Western culture than other Westerners

I said all I have to say on that bottom line never apologize

Unfortunately and fortunately matters to me.

I'm sorry man that just doesn't sound right to me I've met foreign students and stuff especially Chinese students that argue against western culture more often than not

I have the opposite experience, most of the asians I know are quite aware of how much better the U.S. is, despite it's glaring faults.

Maybe that's just my limited experience showing

If you need some Yellow fever, I am communicable.

There was a post-doc in my lab in college who was a Chinese national. His english was horrendous, but you could have a conversation with him. He definitely thought the entire CCP was a disaster, and that the U.S. was far better.

Yeah all the guys and gals I talked to were going back to work for corporations in their home country so that might be the issue

The way American companies outsource workers is truly capitialistic, but it's also terrible for Americans. I'd rather have companies be loyal to Americans, invest in our education rathet than outsource. Otherwise, what's the point

At my university, 70% of the students were "international" which means anything but White kids. Fuck that

The only reason outsourcing is profitable is because the U.S. does not defend its currency. If the U.S. had openly acknowledged that China and other countries were engaging in currency manipulation, and taken steps to combat it, most of the outsourcing of jobs would have never happened.

Now, there's a tradeoff there too, other countries would not have industrialized so fast, China would still be agrarian.

It's hard to say if it would have been better to play capitalism straight and defended a stable currency market than a manipulatable one.. but at this point I think it's clear that it's time for China to face the consequences of it's long-term economic warfare against the U.S.

Tbh I don't understand anything about how currencies work.

Its simpler than you might think

Imagine you have a country that is really good at making Cars, they make and sell a lot of them to a second country. The second country can only grow food, and it's really easy to do it, so much so that there's far more excess food in the world than cars.

Now, in order for those two countries to trade fairly, they have to essentially only trade equal value (whatever everyone feels the fair price of each is) of each of their "stuff"

But in practice, this never happens, right? I mean, you can't have the U.S. saying, "No, we've imported enough German cars this year, we can't import any more or else you Germans will be giving us more value in cars than we gave you in food."

Because then you'd have shortages of imported goods, artificially made by laws.

So instead, national currencies are supposed to make up for this difference in value traded.

In some "ideal system" national currencies would always float relative to each other such that if we imported too many German cars one year, instead of simply stopping all imports of cars from Germany, the value of our currency would go down just a little bit when compared to Germany's currency. The imbalance in currency value ideally should reflect trade imbalances.

However... that doesn't happen either, and really can't as long as humans are in charge of currencies.

Because you'll always have some country where one person has total power, and he/she will want to take advantage by artificially manipulating their currency (by simply printing more) and in so doing control it's value such that you can make it cheaper to manufacture goods in your nation in some kind of "permanent" way.

This is essentially what China did, they pegged their currency against the dollar instead of letting it float, and they performed whatever currency purchases on the open markets as they needed to keep it there. They still do this to this day.

In this way, Chinese goods were always made cheaper than if they were manufactured in the U.S., they've done this for decades.

They're definitely not the only country doing this, which is why the U.S. has a problem, much like Starbucks. Japan (our friends) have been allowed to do this for a long time (not so much pegging their currency, but certainly manipulating it).

There's other things that complicate this, like military spending.

I'm super behind but the up tick in outsourcing happen way back in the 90s

Late 80s

Actually earlier than that. Automobile manufacturing started to go to the Japanese in the 70s

Thanks for explaining that, I never did understand currency myself

@Jeremy-Retard I forgot about that

I'd like to read up on economics for the sake of improving my debate. Maybe take a 101 course at home

I assume an economics textnook would cover currencies?

should do yeah

Its definitely interesting something I might look into morw

More

Crypto definitely showed us all how little the general public knows about currency

Yeah. I can honestly say that I knew absolutely nothing about currencies until I first read the bitcoin whitepaper... and then I asked the question... "wtf is currency"... and I couldn't stop learning on that topic

It was a f-ing addiction... learning crypto is like picking up the best thriller novel you've ever read, you won't stop reading until you recognize crypto as a bigger human advance than the internet.

Crypto still hugely weirds me out, mostly becasue the spikes and drops are necessasrily speculative rather than driven by production

so like fiat currency but without someone pretending they know what they're doing

Understandable, but you have to consider the source of the valuation you're comparing them to.

If you're valuing crypto against fiat, the valuation is always going to be shoddy or manipulated.

And that's on top of speculation by people with throw-away money.

well my point of comparison is the valuation of actual goods, which can be speculatively shifted but that speculation is based off of actual things that have really happened, or will potentially really happen

whereas Crypto just seems to be layers of people speculating on other people's speculations and pretty much nothing else

it's fiat if fiat never evolved from a standard whereby production determined economic value

I don't think it's fair yet to compare crypto against goods, because there are no vendors who are directly valuing their goods in crypto, it's always Crypto->fiat->goods.

If/when forms of energy are valued in crypto, then the world will change.

you can value goods in anything, but there's no solid basis between the two necessarily

I mean, isnt that basically the only basis behind crypto valuation currently in a way? The processing power required to generate BTC and other currencies?

it's indirect, sure, but it's there

It takes energy to make crypto, but no one is buying basic energy resources (oil/gas/nuclear/etc..) with crypto. No one sells oil for crypto.

sure

I'm just saying it necessarily has an equivalent valuation already, it's just not officially recognized

Well, it has a conversion, but since the value of fiat relative to crypto can be changed irrespective of the valuation of fiat-to-goods, it's not a fair way to value crypto, imho.

fair enough

My advice to people curious about cryptocurrencies would be to read, read read read... When you feel like you've read enough and you see future value in these distributed ledger networks known as blockchains, then find yourself cash you're willing to throw away, and find a price entry point. No one knows where these values are going to go, NO ONE. All predictions fail, no economists can predict these things. Think of it as throwing throw-away cash at an uncertain but potentially much more free future.

blockchain seems like a neat idea even outside of crypto