basically if you play with the aircon everyone in the house dies

done better even

There's also the idea that the warming is happening faster than it has in the past which is not going to allow the plant life to shift zones fast enough, which could create a mass die off.

I think we have real environmental problems like soil erosion, plastic pollution, overfishing and deforestation/desertification that we could be focusing on far more productively.

that I'm in favour of

those things are actionable

Yes

The AGW fear is an implacable an existential threat that lends itself to keeping the population in paralyzed anxiety rather than galvanized to action.

we can reclaim forest for the Congo and Amazon, we can prevent the spread of the Sahara, we can clean water

but those things actually need work and not just money and government projects

We don't need to go to Congo, we can reforest and repair watersheds in the American west first.

Would make our water supplies and ecologies far more resilient

the US isn't really that bad off in the grand scheme of things

Not yet @Lord Zedd

the Congo and the Amazon are major contributors to the climate over all

My state has huge tracts of land badly degraded by overgrazing of cattle that could use serious restoration.

I believe in acting locally.

I should say that some efforts have been done on the Sahara and the Congo

India as well has been some conservation as well

their efforts are definitely something to watch

Greening the Sahara would be great, don't get me wrong--I just want Africans to take the lead on it.

which they kind of are

the efforts in planting trees to turn back the Sahara are showing positive trends which is good and could mean it'll work in other areas

like here in Aus

there used to be a forest that ran right down the middle of Australia that helped water travel very far inland that got destroyed by the Aboriginals, I'd personally love to see that rebuilt

efforts for reforestation and conversation have been tried in the Amazon as well, Steve Irwin had an interesting way of doing it by basically buying up large chunks of land to protect it

That's excellent. I know there have been some good results from experimental cattle driving practices in Africa too where they mimic the behavior of predators to force the cattle to clump up and move around more frequently--it gives the landscape more time to recover between being trampled and grazed and it helps restore arid grasslands.

which works great until a government comes along and says fuck you we're taking that land anyway and selling it

I would do something like that here if I were a billionaire or king of America

Buy up millions of acres and designate them as Terrain Protected Zones

It works great for fisheries, no reason it wouldn't work for land too

America I believe has as many trees now as when the Europeans first arrived

Our extensive National Forest system is a good start

I don't think so

There are accounts of explorers being able to walk across the whole continental US without leaving the forest in the 1700s

We've got some pretty big prairies in the middle these days

We might be close though

And prairie is good anyway

Doesn't all have to be trees

I think overall we're trending towards a more sustainable economy without the massive government overreach but we're going to end up with government policy slowing it down and taking credit for it anyway

Probably

Kind of like with racial discrimination I think the culture pulls ahead, then the government steps in and passes a law that is no longer necessary and takes all the credit.

me sounding like a hardcore Libertarian today 😄

Well I am not an extremist Libertarian but we've swung too hard the other direction so we need to pull that way.

true

i do wonder how much progress we're making overall in terms of conservation etc that the leftists actually know about

it'd probably make a good man on the campus segment

and the real progress will be made when someone finds a way to prioritize rubbish

Do you mean profitize?

Yeah that would be great.

oh yeah profitize

stupid spell checker

it red lined it and changed it and I didn't notice it

I'm hoping the microbes evolve to eat all our plastics

especially that one big lump of plastic

In the ocean?

ya

even as bad as that plastic lump is, the Jellyfish there are thriving

Well they like the water warming up

Cleaning up the plastic would save a lot of sea turtles and birds

one potential idea is to take the plastics and recycle them into nests

if it's not going to break down for a long long time use that stability

The problem is not what to do with the plastic, it's how to collect it economically in the first place.

It's not actually in a cohesive lump, it's just a huge region with lots of plastic bits floating loose

tourism could help in some way with that in creating a profit incentive for it

although I'm talking more land based now and not the giant lump

Oh

that giant lump is a tricky one, best i can figure is some kind of bacteria to dissolve it and using some kind of bacteriaphage to control that bacteria

There's no real need, once they eat all the trash they'll die off

the environmental doom has been forecasted for ever as results of overpopulation and terraforming, etc. The end result is it can either be viewed/announced as a dooms day scenario, i.e. no one will give a shit because it's to big of a problem. Or it can be broken down into small parts that can be fixed. Easy fixes such as removing farming subsidize and farming price floors could easily free up many american regions to be returned to nature. Opening up trade barriers on goods like sugar from cheap tropical world markets so that corn and beet sugar production is slowed and lands are freed for better uses, removing federal subsidize for living in flood zones removes the financial impact of rising waters, etc. All effectively cost nothing (actually saves money) and improve environmental issues. Yet we ignore these things to focus on nonsense like high speed rail

https://www.copenhagenconsensus.com/ has a great approach, i don't agree with everything but the approach is solid. If we could even agree on an approach, then its just a matter of turning a dial on what a human life is worth, or an average 1 iq point increase is worth to quantify and priorities social reforms

the 2 biggest solutions to the issues they complain about they won't even talk about GMOs and Nuclear

and the evolution of lab grown meat ;P

btw we can modify plants to absorb 4x as much carbon from the atmosphere than we do today. Imagine the impact of every yard having super carbon absorbing grass

and crops with double yields means half the land needed to grow them, considering the Amazon is cleared for farming and it's a massive carbon sink GMOs are a game changer

Nah bruh just chop it down to grow organic soy and kale

Lol, the best part is that soy is one of the bigger gmo foods

So the soyboys will be the last "men" standing after all?

I'm the demon goddess of soyboys. I'm what will happen if they get too soy

Are you saying you just ate too much edamame?

I just saw Captain Marvel, and gotta agree with the caller from Wednesday. It wasn't terrible

Wasn't terrible isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for why i should dump a cool Hamilton or Jefferson on seeing it.

I only did it for the canon

I don't want to have a plothole going into Endgame

I've heard it's bland (not *bad*, but still either the worst MCU movie or the second worst after Thor 2), Brie Larson is stiff, cringy, and just generally bad, Samuel L. Jackson's increased presence in the movie is welcome, and that it's not nearly as much of a piece of outwardly feminist propaganda as Brie and the MSM made it out to be

is that pretty much accurate?

They made themselves a problem with releasing it after infinity war

also the No Doubt song is used extremely poorly

They should have left the Capt marvel thing as a cliff hanger and introduce her in endgame

See it being boring and mediocre makes the shilling worse than if it was bad though

At least if it was bad that would provide its own sort of entertainment value

Now that the movie's opening weekend was a success, SJWs have claimed victory and moved on to blasting the Endgame trailer for showing Brie Larson wearing makeup

>marvel movie making money is named a victory for an ideology it had nothing to do with

They
They do know she was already wearing makeup yes?

as if they've based their claims in reality before

no reason to start now

Yeah but I think she has red lipstick in the trailer

As if Chris Evans doesn't wear more makeup than everyone else

Since when is third wave opposed to that?
*cue montage of red lipsticked pop culture critics and angry protestors*

"Are you saying a female super hero can't be perfect without sexualizing her *mouth*?!?!!?!?!?!?!"

seems to be the argument

Brie has some charm

They really could have done away with the sequence with the men yelling at her, that was all just silly

It was almost Fury's movie lol

So we're going to break out the popcorn when the 90s teen chick flicks come back in the reboot cycle, yes? The rage will be fucking top tier

>actress forced to wear braces, giant glasses, baggy clothes. Has messed up hair
>oh no, she's a NERD
>gets a haircut, wears normal clothes
>oh she's beautiful now and everyone loves her

Cue reeeeing

They'll have to pretend that wasn't how every trailer and probably every movie worked

And do some #feminist messaging to make sure they don't get yeeted. Hollywood's out of ideas, and the bottom of the barrel is about a mile above us

new story is ugly man, gets hormone replacement and plastic surgery, becomes sexist trans athlete in the school

Bee.. one day we should share a beer and talk turkey

Turkey is best eaten, particularly with gravy and mashed potatoes

Shitposting aside I cannot wait for these movies to show up on the remake list

I don’t know if I could eat 80 million people with mashed taters

Not even with good cranberry gravy

“Ferris buellers week on”

Eating 80 million people isn't normal, but on Communism it is

About PMT

Islamists will never be real commies. They don’t have a liberation theology apostate pope to tell them to submit...

Same in Africa. Communism meets tribalism, chiefs take to loot and fuckiffski to Monaco.

Commies fill the power vacuum tho. Check out some of the Kurdish groups hopping in

Yeah yeah... non useful non idiots.
Vile people, but not commies. Just opportunity grabbing robber barons.

I can at least respect an honest thief while killing him

Trying to remember which group was which because it's been a while, but one of the bigger ones was following the teachings of a big time socialist

Context/place?

Kurdish fighters in Syria

Oddly, I have time for the Kurds. Even for the IRA.
Scum, but honourable scum

I even had time for the Vietcong, although that bunch were a decade before my time.

I don’t have time for the Uriah Heap’s of this world.

Shame, honour, guilt, respect, Apollonian, Dionysian... all fine.

Blame and victim collectivist as camo for other shit? Piss off you fraud...

Anyone who tells me they are doing something for a nebulous collective reason is a liar in short.

Die for your family, your friend, your country, or even a principle? Fine. I’ll help (one way or the other) and give you due honour as friend or enemy.
Just don’t fake it and run away.

👌

Sorry for short rant 😬🙁

Short rants are what discord is for, no?

Bit irate about a few things. Inappropriate to dump on you guys.
You mostly agree.
Need to find proper prey

tran remakes of 90s teen chick flicks could be funny
Xir's all that

“Pretty Wamxn”

Richard wears a ball gag

if I were a less lazy man I'd take footage of Beto speeches and replace the audio with Jpop so the gestures line up....oh well

As long as we don't have an Ex-man Xmen we'll be fine

Milferine...

milf ;)

breaking news niggas. https://files.catbox.moe/bsckol.mp4

8chan /pol/ poster actually went through with it.

fucking legendary.

yeah, his twitter feed seemed sketch.

made feb this year. posted a lot of questionable things.

and then it was carried out.

his twitter already got nuked and his facebook too.

good thing i got alot of that shit downloaded.

i took screen shots of his twitter feed.

I have both parts of the video and his manifesto

pretty messed up stuff

Pewds is gonna get a lot of shit for this even though obviously he has nothing to do with it

"Why did you choose to use firearms?"
I could have chosen any weapons or means.A TATP filled rental van. Household flour, a method of dispersion and an ignition source.A
ballpeen hammer and a wooden shield.Gas,fire,vehicular attacks,plane
attacks, any means were available. I had the will and I had the resources. I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra
media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the
politics of United states and thereby the political situation of the world. The US is torn into many factions by its second amendment, along state, social, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines. With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to
abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see
this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty. This attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic
polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing
of the US along cultural and racial lines.

The media will spin this
just watch

well duh.

I dunno, he lays pretty much everything out in his manifesto

but man, what a memelord

Manifesto been nuked

Is there a particular person that radicalized you the most?

Yes, the person that has influenced me above all was Candace Owens. Each time she spoke I was stunned by her insights and her own views
helped push me further and further into the belief of violence over
meekness. Though I will have to disavow some of her beliefs, the
extreme actions she calls for are too much, even for my tastes

Were you taught violence and extremism by video
games,music,literature,cinema?

Yes, Spyro the dragon 3 taught me ethno-nationalism. Fortnite trained me
to be a killer and to floss on the corpses of my enemies.
No.

He also says "Remember, guys, subscribe to PewDiePie" 30 seconds into the livestream before he goes into the mosque and shoots dozens of people

if you want to be an effective shooter, you should be targeting influential figures, not random people in a mosque

He even puts the Navy Seal copypasta in his manifesto

thats called being an autistic spaz ^

You are a bigot,racist,xenophobe,islamophobe,nazi,fascist!

A. Compliments will get you no where.
B. That isn’t a question.
C. What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll
have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've
been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over
300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper
in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another
target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has
never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think
you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think
again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies
across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better
prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little
thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just
with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed
combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine
Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the
face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what
unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down
upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you
couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

Crazy nutcase

what are the chances he's a leftist?
this is all the kind of shit a leftist nut would put on their enemies

Its not a leftist

Or it could be a leftist framing the right

that's what I'm saying

false flag

zero chance, he's just an eco-fascist memelord

He does answer that question if you believe him

trying to parse this manifesto is hard because it's full of contradictions and really stupid plays from a strategic stand point

This would probably be the most well researched, authentic hoax hate if he was making it up, although he clearly is left in many ways

Were/are you “right wing”?
Depending on the definition, sure.

Were/are you “left wing”?
Depending on the definition, sure.

But he does want to crush the heads of the Marxists

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/14/world/asia/christchurch-nz-shooting.html

>"described what he said motivated him to attack, and said he purposely used guns to stir discord in the United States around the Second Amendment."

false flag confirmed

It's pretty clear he's just shitstirring as much as he can

He's an accelerationist

there's a bunch of accelerationist stuff in the manifesto

even a section specifically about it towards the end

Destabilization and Accelerationism: tactics for victory

>"There hasn’t been a mass shooting in New Zealand since 1990, when a man killed 13 people, including two 6-year-olds, after a dispute with his neighbor in the seaside town of Aramoana.

That shooting led to tightened gun laws, including restrictions on “military style semiautomatic weapons.”

Gun owners must be licensed, a process that includes a review of criminal activity and mental health, attendance at a safety program, an explanation of how the gun would be used, a residence visit to ensure secure storage, and testimonials from relatives and friends."

Pretty much this shooting confirms yet again that gun laws cant and dont prevent shootings

Accelerationists are fucking dumb

And are leftist pawns

re: stirring discord in the US around 2A, yeah, he wants a literal second civil war

aka retard

wasnt he stopped by an armed muslin in the second mosque though?

That’s what I heard.

Washington Times reported that like 1.5hrs ago

But early info is often garbled and nobody knows what is really going on for a bit, so I dunno

Wait until the police report comes out. We didnt know what happened except what was on video or posted by the spastic retard shooter. That wasnt on the live feed because it got shut down

at best we archive everything that comes along and put it all together once the dust settles, the fucked up thing with how these things play out is while the details are coming to light information goes missing, narratives get spread and before you know it a completely false narrative is stuck in the minds of the populace and there's no dissuading people after that

There's already a fake version of the manifesto being spread around that has a different answer for this:

"Is there a particular person that radicalized you the most?

Yes, the person that has influenced me above all was Candace Owens. Each time she spoke I was stunned by her insights and her own views
helped push me further and further into the belief of violence over
meekness. Though I will have to disavow some of her beliefs, the
extreme actions she calls for are too much, even for my tastes"

fake one says Andy Warski and Sargon

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/329898912754302979/555964674240413696/NOKbrpv.png

theyre both clearly shitposting anyway

comments disabled on pretty much any news covering it, not surprising

fucking legend. love this man.

tfw knew about the attack before it happened.

watched it live too.

jesus it was hilarious. him playing GAS GAS GAS on his way out.

Um. What the heck

what?

he posted on 8chan that he was gonna do it. not many believed he would do it until he started the stream.

then he did it. it was fucking legendary.

he wants this to snowball into the happening. i respect him for that alone.

the fuck

what? what do you take exception to?

It's awful

i disavow should the NSA, FBI, CIA happen to be listening

There's nothing to support

Shooting people is bad

lmao faggot.

read his full memoir

so edgy

its hilarious.

It's insane

yeah it reads like a retard wrote it

nah its quite well written and funny.

dude you want to be banged by this guy. whos the faggot?

The guy committed murder.

That's awful

still you

THE EDGE how do we handle so much EDGE?

carefully

He's bad

someone's just gone onto a watch list....

me, the shooter, muhammad?

Can you agree to that much?

The shooter

is bad

idk if i can actually. people talk about voting for yang as a form of accelerationism. he just accelerated everything by himself.

remember bois subscribe to pewdiepie

@Lord Zedd I too formally disavow.

fbi can come at me idgaf

he accelerated nothing, he made his entire point impossible to now discuss without being lumped in with a fucking nutcase

read his memoire you pleb.

have i had open till about 2 mins ago

like the whole thing.

Why

Why should I read it

@Salacious Swanky Cat You haven't read it?

i posted some of the things he said in call waiting room text chat. just read that atleast.

Everthing that gets posted here is insane