we were texting a lot

and she seemed into me

she asked me to sit with her during a church service

and though i had to get up and help with the service, i asked her on a date afterward and she said yes

and before then she had been asking about me

her mom came up to ask me my name because her daughter had been asking about me

and she initiated texting me several times

but idk man

wow that's serious

i would just text her how she's doing every once in a while

I would say get right to the point of asking her to hang out again. If she ditches the second date-she's out.

No messing around, no beating around the bush

i was planning on just talking to her next time we see each other at church

and then asking her on a date once the semester was over and she wouldn't have a good excuse

Thing is if girls want to hang out with you they will make it happen

True, I'm kind of skeptical because she didn't offer an exact alternative time when she postponed at first

she said we can still talk at church and plan something once the semester is over

so i was planning on talking to her at church and asking her for another date once the semester ends

and if that doesn't work out then i'll move on

Oh come on thats ridiculous. Does she think you are some chump who will wait around for a month? She's wrong. You are the prize

She can't find one afternoon/evening? She definitely can

^^

^^^

she also lives a half hour drive away from me

Is she shy? Nervous about a date?

and is 18, and doesn't have her own car

Ok so she is young and definitely immature when it comes to dating

yes

she is young

but we talked about guns

and how great the liberal salt after trump's election was

and she's gorgeous

How old are yu?

22

23 in july

Same lol

Finals are coming up arent they? I would give her the space, keep texting and doing the church stuff. And once the semester ends, hit her with a, "so where are you taking me on our date now that schools out". joking/playfuly of course. Put the ball in her court.

i was planning on once the semester ends just going up to her at church or texting her and saying "so how about that coffee?"

Ok. She could be a little intimidated by an older guy. Probably not used to getting attention from a guy your age. If she is really into you, I bet you could convince her to hang out with you within 2 weeks

normally i would think pursuing a girl a few years younger than me would be weird but since she initiated by asking her mom about me/inviting me to sit with her at church, i think it's more ok

Nah dude girls love older guys, naturally attracted to them

yep

Just be careful you don't get friendzoned. Texting too much can do that

yeah i've been avoiding texting her

if she initiates i respond

and if she initiates several times in a row i might text her

but i dont' like texting in general

you prevent being friendzoned by "keeping it man to woman". i would text her when you have something to say

if you do not text her much she may perceive that as disinterest

i would sit next to her at church every week

"you prevent being friendzoned by "keeping it man to woman". i would text her when you have something to say" great way to put it @Zyzz .

It's about making your intentions clear

^

if i get to church after her and she is alone i will sit next to her

text her before church and ask her if she'd like to sit next to you

good idea

this is how you make your intentions clear

and then i will talk to her after church, regardless

Definitely ask her to hang out again though man-that seems like its what you want to do

@Gaius Mucius Scaevola you could also ask her if you could take her to coffee after church or walk her home

she lives a half hour drive away from our church

and comes to church with her family

but i think i could ask if she wants to get lunch and give her a ride home

i think i will do that

Well said @Zyzz

Good idea. If she makes up some silly excuse, then maybe she is not mature enough for you

how do i differentiate silly excuse from legitimate excuse?

If she pulls something like ohhh uuhh im busy or have schoolwork or have to walk my dog, thats silly. Legit would be like oh I have to go visit my grandmother in the hospital

I think it's important too to see if she will offer another time if she's busy. If she does then she's probably interested in you

Last thing you could do is say ok, when are you free? If she says not until the end of the semester I would call her out jokingly

someone will thoroughly explain a legitimate excuse.

it also the feeling you get from how she responds.. learn to trust intuition

if she gives an excuse i'll just say "alright let me know when you're free for a date" and wait to see if she ever actually lets me know

@Gaius Mucius Scaevola one thing I would throw in there. even though 18-22/23 isn't unheard of, it really is quite a huge difference

according to the half your age+7 rule she's at my lower limit

but she is really gorgeous and trad

its rare for a girl to ever follow up with someone about when they are free for a date.. it is best to ask "so when are you free?"

if she can't do brunch after church one of these weeks soon should i ask her again once the semester is over?

@Gaius Mucius Scaevola I would play it by ear, meet her at Church, ask how things are going

if she's light on details then move on

she hasn't initiated texting in a while

so i guess i'll just play it by ear

tfw no gf until then

Don't worry man you are wicked young. And as you get older, you will meet more mature girls

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dat fertility window tho

Gaiu

Plenty of time man

@Gaius Mucius Scaevola like @Pat-MA said 18 year olds are really immature and unstable (sorry young guys lol). If I were you I wouldn't bother with a girl younger than 21. Don't worry about fertility window, you have a good while.

feelsbadman

but alright

Yeah man, I read an article about how most girls hit their peak maturity nowadays at age 27

Also, one of the open secrets is this: most girls are trad in some way, it's the natural way

big thing to me is she was born and raised orthodox christian

and orthodox christians are already an intense minority in this country

I agree religion is important. On religion she sounds great, but I think the age thing really is a challenge.

true

i was a fucking retard at 18

i'm still a fucking retard, only slightly less

lol

Yeah I don't want to knock anyone man or woman, i can only imagine what I looked like to other people, but I quickly learned that girls 18-23 are basically pixies