https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/world/middleeast/israeli-helped-inspire-us-russia-weapons-deal-with-assad-memoir-says.html?_r=0

Workshop participants felt that prolonged conflict was the best descriptor for the situation in Syria as of December 2013, but momentum seemed to be leaning toward regime victory.
Negotiated settlement was deemed the least likely of the possible scenarios.
Regime collapse, while not considered a likely outcome, was perceived to be the worst possible outcome for U.S. strategic interests.

Obama's refusal to directly arm or train Syrian rebels prior to 2013, and his rejection of a 2012 outline for "CIA intervention in Syria" suggested by then-CIA Director David Petraeus was motivated by his own belief that past instances of the CIA supporting insurgencies rarely "worked out well." The program he ultimately approved was designed not to give the rebels enough support to achieve victory, but rather to engineer a stalemate that would encourage a negotiated resolution of the Syrian Civil War—which U.S. officials envisioned as including the resignation of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. The CIA trained 10,000 rebels "in Jordan and Turkey" at facilities run with the cooperation of the Jordanian and Turkish governments, but strict prohibitions were placed on the U.S. or its allies introducing "certain classes of weapons" (such as MANPADs) into the conflict due to fears they could be captured by terrorists—this despite the fact that all CIA-supported rebels are "vetted" for possible extremist ties.

thats just David Petraeus

contradicts what McCain said

David Pateraus and the assessment of the RAND institute

already granted David Petraeus

Also the position of Seymour Hersh

Seymour Hersh and RAND are not part of the US Gov

these are just expert opinions

Rand is strongly linked to the US government

They are advisors to the US gov

not part of it

They advice policy decisions and are used as basis for formulating policy

most experts on Syria back then was of the view that Assad was going to fall

They concluded that the collapse of Assad was against US strategic interests

David Pateraus is the only insider that said the US was of the view that fall of Assad is not desired by US, and that is contradicted by McCain

Also the statements of Obama are rhetorical in nature

Not the US intelligence assessment of more confidential nature

what inside

DP is the only one who has come out and said this

What

until today

What

David Patreaus and the assessment of the US intelligence community

the assessment of the US intelligence community who

IC said that Assad fall is undesirable and that the US is not support overthrow/step down of Assad?

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n01/seymour-m-hersh/military-to-military

thats from IC?

offcially from IC?

sessment, put together by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, then led by General Martin Dempsey, forecast that the fall of the Assad regime would lead to chaos and, potentially, to Syria’s takeover by jihadi extremists, much as was then happening in Libya. A former senior adviser to the Joint Chiefs told me that the document was an ‘all-source’ appraisal, drawing on information from signals, satellite and human intelligence, and took a dim view of the Obama administration’s insistence on continuing to finance and arm the so-called moderate rebel groups. By then, the CIA had been conspiring for more than a year with allies in the UK, Saudi Arabia and Qatar to ship guns and goods – to be used for the overthrow of Assad – from Libya, via Turkey, into Syria. The new intelligence estimate singled out Turkey as a major impediment to Obama’s Syria policy. The document showed, the adviser said, ‘that what was started as a covert US programme to arm and support the moderate rebels fighting Assad had been co-opted by Turkey, and had morphed into an across-the-board technical, arms and logistical programme for all of the opposition, including Jabhat al-Nusra and Islamic State. The so-called moderates had evaporated and the Free Syrian Army was a rump group stationed at an airbase in Turkey.’ The assessment was bleak: there was no viable ‘moderate’ opposition to Assad, and the US was arming extremists.

DIA said this when?

2013 I believe

where sis the assessment

?

@Neuron Cortex hey

Hey, what is going on

I have

question

Sure

I am in voice

@Leaf Yeah, what about it?

<:frogecat:601952596550221834>

I am in voice

nestor she wants you to go to watch2 gether and talk to her

you silly goof

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_sHXFpAIc8&t=174s

@Neuron Cortex unmute me and good christian boy

Why was I muted?

Muted again why

@•Luke• Why you gotta use such anti intersectional language bruh

<:AquaCry:643129178383974410>

@AusFox Is there a problem with that?

Against preferences 🤔

The rest of the insults were fair game tho.

Lame ass preferences

If it makes transphobes buttmad I'll use 'em

@•Luke• I am a deontologist in terms of rule enforcement

<:yui:643133199051915305>

Now THAT'S what I call cucked

sry man

The R word is fun to use, but I'm trying to have a Destiny slur arc.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28010123

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23742031

@Neuron Cortex wtf

he has been fucking insulting me this whole damn time

and derailed multiple times

You mute me every time I speak what the fuck

@Rise Again @Leaf move to chill plz

@AusFox could you unmute?

😩 some one is listening to crap in there so I'm inclined to ask.

@AusFox AusFox could you unmute?

@Dhamma Hey

<:yui:643133199051915305>

hey

no bevveys im sober

but yes

Set is associated with alcohol

least the euphoria from it

Non Alcho Bevvies

those suck they taste like garbage and dont get you drunk 😦

I mean like Soda or Tea

yeeesss

if we ban eveyrone like this

this server

Would be dead <:Angry:643130505167896578>

this is pseudo think tank

not smart think tank

oh wait thats cause that's his name

nvm lol

I got muted

?jail @Speculative Realist

$brig @Speculative Realist

?brig @Speculative Realist

?brig @Speculative Realist ¸

theyre paid what theyre worth because thats what they fetch on the market

hmm

😩

Slander

<:Smug:643129431434461194>

<@324921507526606848>

Truuueeee

WHO IS CALLING ME

I wanna die now smh

y

Self image

but I'm not trying to die, trying implies I couldn't easily do it

It's a button press away

dark

@Deleted User sorry loo

Lol

@•Luke• what did you call that person again

@Reclan yo

@мarlвoro venυѕ 🚬[away whats up examszn]#9939

@Commanderholy eyyy

lmao

if the urge to kill myself goes above normal parameters I'll go in and put the gun away early

not to worry

😭

Chill looks tempting

Sadly in class

@ᏉᎬᏁus ( ᵘ ᵕ ᵘ ⁎) suppppp

I'm an incel

eg, this study supports the "cock carousel" meme
women with low financial and health concerns are more likely to prefer masculine men; women with high financial and health concerns are more likely to reject masculine men: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/attraction-evolved/201712/why-certain-women-prefer-man-whos-more-feminine https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40750-017-0070-3 https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/s40750-017-0070-3 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418850379518705675/640238138605961227/unknown.png
```Factor 1, which we labelled "condition", showed positive loadings for self-rated attractiveness (.88) and self-reported health (.55), as well as a small negative loading for financial worries (−.28); factor 2 showed a positive loading on financial worries (.77), a small negative loading on health (−.25) and a small positive loading on disgust (.23), and was labelled "concerns".```

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@Commanderholy how are you white kween

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixRxlxVuRhw

<:thigh1:643820621267992616> <:thigh2:643820654122237952>

@ᏉᎬᏁus ( ᵘ ᵕ ᵘ ⁎) I'm doing good 7abibi and you?

@Deleted User How are those truths epistemically accessible?

<:MonkaS:643820797605183488>

@Commanderholy bored in class : - (

same

<:Angry:643130505167896578>

WOOOMEEEENNNN

SOOO BBAAAAAD

@ᏉᎬᏁus ( ᵘ ᵕ ᵘ ⁎) there's so many fucking weebs in here d00d

I failed as a man so I became trans

***WOMEN BAD JOIN MGTOW***

@Commanderholy weeboos

@Commanderholy you friends with the leaf hoe?

@ᏉᎬᏁus ( ᵘ ᵕ ᵘ ⁎) I'm being accused of racism

@ᏉᎬᏁus ( ᵘ ᵕ ᵘ ⁎) nah

you are

you said the g-word

I hate all whites

i dont

@Commanderholy who is accusing you

Some weeaboo

Which one their all weebod

Setting my sights on racism

No idea

@•Luke•

look i aint no weeb or anything but i think you are very hateful toward other people

@Dhamma ok zoomer lol

i'm a millenial

not a zoomer

im probs older than you

God of incel is a very nice person

Even worse

@Dhamma okay, boomer

whatever nazi

I know them well

@Deleted User 6942e746 uwu

ty for admitting that

but no nazi is lovely

Loopy she trolling

Goi is no nazi

Read siege

Lmao carly

@Commanderholy are you an acc

?

@Deleted User 6942e746 what the fuck is an acc?

accelerationist

Yes and no

how so

Siege is dumb

stfu woman

and you're not o9a

okay

uwu

read Liber 333

shit book

@Deleted User 6942e746 I believe society should accelerate but the siege tards who are trying to make it accelerate are doing it wrong

read Liber Azerate

read IM-RFM

@Commanderholy oh I see

Class done in 10min!!!!!

@ᏉᎬᏁus ( ᵘ ᵕ ᵘ ⁎) are ou teaching it or are you a student?

Getting instructions on how to teach atm

<:froge:562563646899617793>

oh

@Commanderholy where did u go carl

@Dhamma do you unironically read esotericism shit?

Why did you post this? @ᏉᎬᏁus ( ᵘ ᵕ ᵘ ⁎)

Post what?

There's just empty space on my screen

I get the joke

Nice 1

Inspect element is a powerful tool

Class done gonna join voice now

based

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momofuku_Ando#Invention_of_Chicken_Ramen

@ᏉᎬᏁus ( ᵘ ᵕ ᵘ ⁎) phone died fam

@Deleted User 6942e746 yes

lmao

why tho?

because im a mystic

and a buddhist

it seems like a huge waste of time. what do you actually get out of it?

Nirvana

developing the shell that this universe inhabits that I call my body

look up vajrayana buddhism

if you will

seems spooky to me but I will

@Leaf If you say boomer with a hard R again I'm muting you, that's our word.

But you can say Booma

WHO MISGENDERED THE TR*NNY?

I AM CONFUSION

Leaf is just being a non-agent, again.

literally making fun of people with mental disorders

lmao

You mean what you do?

I dont do it maliciously

<:pepesit:598717087732727820>

@Deleted User Talk down to me more

<:embarassed:643814975760105475>

"Malicious" is undefined.

@Commanderholy was trying to holla

Wassup bro

@ᏉᎬᏁus ( ᵘ ᵕ ᵘ ⁎) getting ready to go out and get some breakfast 7abibi

What you getting

Gonna get a breakfast sandwich from starbucks

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/m7vSae-mGt-WryvBWLW64NphAwpWO4KSZhIdhCDkvBM/%3Fwidth%3D177%26height%3D155/https/images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/PzzvqGM2x79BvsHzaIht55S4bqdtDLSb2KYvmPuWNBg/%253Fwidth%253D196%2526height%253D172/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/642585795072622610/642607349609005057/unknown.png?width=160&height=140. @Commanderholy

Lmao I feel so bad for her

She's all fucked up from methamphetamines