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I think when the NSDAP burned books, it was mostly symbolic and many-if-not-most of the books burned were socially degenerate more than anything.
I actually think burning porn would be better optics than burning Marxist books
The problem is, porn is almost all digital now.
Nobody can really argue AGAINST burning porn, and it still follows our message
Its not for erasing it from the world. Its for sending a message
@Stanislav Đajić the point would be to get ppl to ask why we are doing it
Thats a great point. Time to hit the XXX store
I mean, people will be thinking, "These guys went through all the convenience stores seeking out copies of Hustler to burn?"
Is burning an Israeli flag too harsh?
People are more likely to ask why we are burning porn than a Marxist book.
Maybe we had the hustlers from when we were teenagers and now we are showing how we are rejecting porn
Burn women too because MGTOW <:pepe:321791202578006017>
>Keeping copies of Hustler from the dial-up era
I actually saw something similar to this when I went on a church Retreat as a teenager. it was a big conference and the pastor on stage asked people to come to the stage and give up their vices. I saw a lot of people bring pornographic images and throw them up on stage as a symbol of giving it up
Did the pastor quickly pick up all the pix and slip them into his pocket later?
WHy do you care what the Jews say?
Do you think that if you act super nice and polite they'll publish nice things about us?
Also, you don't buy the books from the publisher you burn, you acquire them in other ways or through a second hand store.
The only reason I need to "care about what the jews say" is because they influence our people to be against us
No they dont
Half priced books is implicitly white
They influence people who were never sympathetic towards us
If someone is swayed against us by a negative media story on one of our rallies, they were never an ally.
They influence people on the fence too
We need to make those people sympathetic towards us
No matter what we do in CVille it's going to be:
"NEO-NAZI WHITE SUPREMIST RICHARD SPENDER AND DAMINGO DO X"
But we can discredit it if its completely wrong
Yes I know they're going to be headlines like that but when you add stuff like "Nazis burn books because they're too dumb to read them" it doesn't help
Stop 👏🏻 Caring 👏🏻 About 👏🏻 The👏🏻 Opinion 👏🏻 Of 👏🏻 Your 👏🏻 Enemy
Our "enemy" is the jew my dude
All whites are potential allies
Thats not true.
Yes it is
I've known ppl go from commie to natsoc
I think it was someone here who was explaining, its easier to convert a commie than a neocon
Without complicit whites, Jews wouldn't be a problem.
The far left just want to rebel and be the counterculture
They don't really care about their ideals lmao
You have a very warped understanding of the far left if you actually believe that
>attack people in the street for their ideals
>they don't really care
You're talking about people involved in a culture and following ideals that have been fine tuned for over 50 years here in the US and you think they don't actually care about them?
Yeah I personally think a lot of the thugs are punching Nazis to be rebellious, not because communism
Well you're wrong.
Agree to disagree. Not really something that can be argued out
Yeah, it can. You're objectively wrong.
You're trying to make the enemy appear to be less serious than they are. That's dangerous.
Rockwell said something to the effect of "The only people who really truly believe in anything in the world are the Nazis and the Communists. The rest will follow whoever wins."
The enemy isn't the far left. They're a tool of the enemy
@Fevs there are more people posting swastikas who fall into the category of just wanting to rebel than there are leftists.
The far left are one of our enemies.
The white race is in a state of civil war in a lot of ways.
The far left is a Jewish puppet
The "neoliberal" are a more direct threat than the communists
Like someone said before with out sympathetic whites, jews would have never gained power.
Who is fighting us in the streets?
I don't see an awful lot of NeoCons or NeoLibs out there
Who's paying them to fight us in the streets?
The communists, who are a tool of the neoliberals
Communists are a tool of the Neoliberals?
Is that why the Radical LEft views the NeoLibs with the smae hatred and disdai nwe view NeoCons with?
@Fevs a lot of the lefts shocktroops aren't paid. There leadership is though.
I would actually say a lot of anarchists are fighting us in the streets
@Hand Banana I think we should prepare as if we expect 300 feral nogs to come fight us tbh
They call themselves anarchists, but they're communists.
The future of America and the White Race will be decided by probably 5-10% of the country fighting in the streets. The masses will fall in line with the winner.
The anarchists are still communists lmao
You've seen this time and time again
We (our local get together group) have a token injun who is former Antifa 🤷🏼♀️ some on the far dark side and still transition.
Anarchists and Communists of whatever flavor are the main enemy for us to overcome. Once we do that, we win.
NAXALT means nothing to me
I would rather appeal to 10 hard right guys who think a book burning looks rad than one feathernigger who might be swayed by a softer message.
Of course some of them do switch sides, but it's not because we're tiptoeing around worrying about optics
And no matter how moderate your message is and how hard you worry about optics the headlines and news coverage is the same.
That's not what I was saying.....lol he'd be happy to burn books.
@Hand Banana 5-10% fighting in the streets will decide the future of America. What % is out there now?
Less than 1%
Ok, so wouldn't it be smart to recruit more to our team?
If you want people to fight in the streets, you don't attract them by being nice.
And how do we recruit more ppl?
By fighting, and inspiring others to do the same.
I never said "be nice"
Burning porn instead of books is being nice?
Why did you say we should burn porn instead of books again?
Not the material to burn itself, but why you're avoiding Marxist literature
Because it sends a more powerful messages that more ppl can understand.
Thats not true
It's a matter of opinion
No, it's not.
What people do you think are going to help us win? People who are offended because we burn "gender studies and implicit white bias"?
Why don't we just burn a cross? <:pepe:321791202578006017>
I agree that both are powerful images. But I'm taking into consideration the circumstances
This is where right leaning NeoCons are at right now
Do you think that a message about burning literature that inspires the behavior they are upset about would resonate more or less than burning playboys?
The media would spin that as us silencing intellectual speech
I think less informed ppl will understand burning playboys more than a book they've never heard of.
STOP CARING ABOUT THE MEDIA
This is the medias response to that NRA ad
Optics are still important for portraying our message
You are in a movement that exists purely because of a constant push against the overton window.
Actually, I don't relaly care if I convince either of you two.
I'm going to burn a bunch of Marxists drivel
@Hand Banana I don't think the movement is ready for extreme optics just yet.
And I'm going to sell footage of a bonfire of marxist books, pride flags, and other Jewish shit to CNN
Once we have 10k at a rally, I'm all for it.
I don't care what you are all for
I'm going to continue to push the Overton window to the right
Go for it
When "Heilgate" happened we saw a massive jump in recruitment
I'm sure that you would argue that public roman salutes are bad optics
Alright, I expect to see photographs of you saluting in CVille then
"Oy vey we can't burn "The Evils of Whiteness" it might upset the Media!"
"Just burn the playboys goyim that'll show how tough you are!"
You guys should check out the normie comments on this fb post about a guy who got arrested for burning the gay flag (related to the discussion last night). The only issue most of them have is that the flag was stolen from someone before being burned. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154580290531301&id=104301781300&ref=content_filter
Most normie conservatives react with BUT IT'S OKAY TO BURN AN AMERICAN FLAG?!
I'm all for burning it in private and even on live stream
Or at any other event that's not Charlottesville for that matter.
You dont have to burn fag flags with me
All the cool kids will be though
We really need to start looking into antifa podcast and pages
Then your intent is to do so at the Rally ?
@kristall.night Good point. I do think people vastly underestimate how many similarities we have with working class conservatives types. They hate that damn flag too.
Burning the Pride flag is such a powerful statement it might get lost in all the excitement of our event though. Any one of us could get a permit, hold a press conference, burn one of the flags and it would make the local news. If hundreds of us did it it would make international news
My God, there would be so many normies who would say, "I don't know much about them alt-right fellers...but they're alright." if we did this
"Pride Flag Burning Day"
People underestimate how much of the general public despises open and obnoxious faggotry. They think they are supposed to accept it, but you'd be amazed at how many seemingly normie people will happily jump on the fag-hate train when you give them permission to do it
Gas the Gay away day 2017
I think it's a great idea with a direct message and explanation with its own event
Faggotry isn't as openly accepted as the leftist agenda tries to make it seem
Although its in England.. Hivemind comments will say "Trump's America" lol
@MadDimension yep, people are sick of having it shoved in their faces.
What's funny is most of them probably wouldn't care about fags one way or the other if it weren't being pushed so hard
The bog is calling for all faggots
Can we burn a UN flag? Hmm
Just let it go
Dont respond to her
🤷🏻♂️still no white babies though
Its just that time of the month, its natural law.
I'm not even VA and I think this is getting absurd. What's the issue here?
Its been a peaceful day
Until she finally spoke
Well that's what I meant. Why is shitting on Vanguard suddenly a thing?
Please stop the fighting. I'm trying to work out security plans for our speakers and it's embarassing to be bringing professionals in here while people are bickering
If only there was a simple solution
Not our fault 😂
No one is being banned because I believe in free expression. Please knock off this shit
Dude listen man
She comes in here for attention so everyone gets all gassed up
Yeah just let it go
She wants you guys banned too and I told her no. Neither Vanguard or Erika is going to be banned
I'm not Vanguard
I'm deleting posts where shit is talked about anyone in this server
I've been nice since day one to her, even through direct messages. And she decides to shit on us anyways. I don't know , does it look like the right is uniting?
Not really, and thats fine
Anyway. Kessler, I think the flag burning is a brilliant idea and I think it would get a lot of positive attention from the normie right. If it's not done publicly at this event, another event should be put together for it. Have you looked through the comments on that bill nye trans song, or the YouTube fag promo? People are begging for someone to stand up and save them from this degeneracy
^^ I second this
Also, I'm putting together an after party to celebrate the attendance of the premier Alt-Right podcast members, The Alc Right Rises. PM me if you would like to attend
Please have some patience guys. You can talk about flag burning or whatever you want and no one has a right to tell you you can't. This should be a place where people can openly debate ideas
I've already said I think we should save it and do a national event with it. We could get a TON of normies onboard.
Por que no la dos
Does that mean why not both?
I definitely think we should do it at the bonfire. Just buy one through @Commander Davis (TWP) so that no liberals make any money off of you buying the flag
He can get a design of any flag printed through his manufacturer
I will acquire one yes
Just stop by your local Unitarian "church"
I was literally just thinking about the Unitarian flag down the street...
If we're talking about flag burning, why stop at a gay pride flag? How about a commie flag? An AntiFa flag? Surely someone could steal one from the inevitable AntiFa counter-protestors.
Nah man, thats an Vanguard thing to do
You dont want to be like us, were shitty people
So long as it isn't an American flag, the conservatives will love it
I want setting degenerate things on fire to be cool again
Oh a commie / antifa flag is a great idea
I *lowkey* wanna buy a commie flag on Amazon for $5 just to use it for wiping my feet on when I come inside. It'd be funny to use capitalism to buy a communist flag. Plus they're cheap as shit and standard 3 by 5 foot flags.
Nobody can really counter signal us burning a commie flag
No one who matters can counter signal us burning a gay flag either
Idk guys millennial woes might have a problem with that
@johnhimself Capatalism=Communism.. Though anyone who would be triggered by what youre doing doesnt realize that.
So.. Buy away lol
Only flags we should burn is ones we don't pay a cent for
Blake u cheap nigger
I don't see the problem with paying for the flags if they're custom made
If its an openly lgbt or commie flag site however fuck that
We have a guy here who does flags!!
We have a couple of guys bringing assorted homo and commie flags down
Also we need to watch our language. They aren't gay or LGBT they are sodomites and filthy sinners
@here Please link /ourguy/ custom flag makers. So far the only/best place I've seen does degenerate rave shit. I prefer to support a Nationalist.
Unless that's his cover so he can get shekels from normies, then by all means, continue.
I got a guy
You've got another 24 hrs
Is there laws against burning flags? I would assume lighting a fire in a public place is some sort of misdemeanor...Anyone have more info on that. I really want to burn a sodomite flag
It's a murky legal territory because its constitutionally protected speech but might run afoul of fire ordinances
Meaning leftists get a pass and we get arrested.
I don't know if cops would be willing to risk a First Amendment lawsuit over it or not.
They would likely arrest the person and force them to come to court and then drop the charges after the hassle.
Courts won't hear moot cases.
I'd bet you're right
This is how the left waits for its judges to get in place and gets precedent set and then drops cases that can challenge them before a landmark overturn could ever be heard
At the core, at the top they are evil. Not stupid. They just effectively use stupid people better than we have as well.
@everyone Does anyone have SEO skills? If so get in touch with me asap.
Can you be held responsible for if a group that decided to attend your event burnt the flag?
Faggots burn the American flag all the time, the faggot flag doesn't mean anything
For fucks sake.. END Niggerfied sports culture in this country.
Fuck your baseball draft
Niggerball draft. Even worse