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2017-06-28 19:59:29 UTC

Why do you always have to fall all over yourself to get the last word in?

2017-06-28 20:00:14 UTC

Point is, it's stupid to openly associate yourself with an ideology you have to climb uphill to change the perceptions of when you can rebrand and don't have to.

2017-06-28 20:00:27 UTC

@HipToTheJQ I thought you said you weren't debating this any further?

2017-06-28 20:01:58 UTC

LOL

2017-06-28 20:02:03 UTC

whatever

2017-06-28 20:03:18 UTC

I'll think twice to question our glorious queen next time

2017-06-28 20:03:19 UTC

Sorry

2017-06-28 20:05:03 UTC

Hey compatriots let's save the night of long knives for the ethnostate

2017-06-28 20:05:20 UTC

We're just organizing a tiki torch rally

2017-06-28 20:06:41 UTC

Well the Satanist have a statue in detroit and other major cities paid for by tax dollars... @Erika

2017-06-28 20:08:29 UTC

@Nicklis - OH jfc I still don't think that makes it mainstream, though. It just means a certain minority group bitch enough in a most likely Leftist controller city and got what they wanted.

2017-06-28 20:08:54 UTC

We need real torches this time lol

2017-06-28 20:09:17 UTC

I'm sure we all have different ideals about how we should present ourselves and I'm sure they each have some pitfalls. We should focus on the reason we're doing this, unity.

2017-06-28 20:09:50 UTC

We're only strong when we're working as one force

2017-06-28 20:13:56 UTC

Baby steps seem nice. Survive THEN thrive. lets worry about wether to be fascist or not when all the commies are already dead

2017-06-28 20:31:53 UTC

We aren't going to get rid of the commies without some fascism.

2017-06-28 20:32:44 UTC

The normies refusal to see the fascism in the behavior of American heroes past is insipid.

2017-06-28 20:33:21 UTC

I agree on both angles. We need a good spearhead that appeals to the public. But yes.. If/when the time comes... My NS brothers and I will be the sword. Waiting behind the scenes.

2017-06-28 20:33:51 UTC

I want a meme of George Washington crossing the Delaware in a Helicopter and throwing "red coats" out along the way

2017-06-28 20:40:08 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321378710265659393/329722660613521409/ZomboMeme_25062017224032.jpg

2017-06-28 20:47:26 UTC

People pretend Lincoln didn't arrest the entire Maryland Assembly.
Pretty Fashy maneuver that.

2017-06-28 20:49:53 UTC

I know most here align with the alt-south. We would still be foolish to not acknowledge all the parts of our history that counter. The prevailing "good guy/bad guy" Marxist Kike version of history.

2017-06-28 20:54:39 UTC

Appealing to the public is too Democratic for me. A Biblical example is that the savior, Jesus Christ, was passed up over a common thief Barnabas when left to the public decision

2017-06-28 20:55:05 UTC

You win public by being their fighter. Their champion.

2017-06-28 20:55:43 UTC

They don't give two shits if that's in a cross, swastika, pentagram, or a hammer and sickle. If you're their champion they will love you

2017-06-28 20:56:47 UTC

I guess by public, I mean fellow Whites that could be open to our message. Its obviously not a Populist movement. We only want a specific kind, even anong whites, in our ranks.

2017-06-28 20:58:18 UTC

Another example is how would you court a woman? Courting public opinion is the same way. You do so by being bold, courageous, and a fighter. If you're unwilling to do those things no amount of swastikas or PRcucking is gonna get you accepted

2017-06-28 22:33:25 UTC

Every great and successful movement of our type has had the same view on "optics". Present an honest and true message, openly name your enemies, and you will recruit the people who believe in your message and will fight for it. If you try and trick people into supporting you you show you are weak and a liar, and when they find out they will recoil from you, and rightfully so.

2017-06-28 22:44:19 UTC

Why try to appeal to and recruit people who want nothing to do with you? The NSDAP started with 20 maligned extremists in a bar in Munich. By being open and honest and speaking truth to power you will recruit earnest and honest men who will fight and die for you.

2017-06-28 22:47:23 UTC

“Generals think war should be waged like the tourneys of the Middle Ages. I have no use for knights; I need revolutionaries.” AH

2017-06-28 22:54:16 UTC

Joe Normie isn't going to strap on boots and fight communists with you no matter how much you lie about being a White Nationalist and Anti-Semite.

2017-06-28 22:55:19 UTC

What this illustrates, to me, is the prioritization of social capital and outward appearance over true self presentation of ideas and goals. This is a very feminine behavior.

2017-06-28 23:32:00 UTC

If we inhibit or deny any tactic we are limiting ourselves.

2017-06-28 23:33:38 UTC

As things get more tumultuous people will tend radical. One direction or another. It’s only a matter of time before we have people flocking to us and demanding radicalization. We’d better be ready to provide that to them.

2017-06-28 23:34:18 UTC

Who says anyone is lying about being a white nationalist or anti-Semite? Going around LARPing about wanting a 4th Reich and not softening your image will make Joe Normie shut down and not even want to listen to your point of view. None of this is about lying to appeal to normies. It's about rebranding and being smart about your rhetoric to open up conversation with those on the fence. Obviously, there's a time and place for harsher rhetoric and tactics. And that time will come as whites continue to feel more out of place and discriminated against.

2017-06-28 23:35:16 UTC

There's a place for and time for everyone from 'moderates' like IE to Aryan Brotherhood prison gang alumni.

2017-06-28 23:36:18 UTC

We just need leadership with the ingenuity and stomach to embrace a variety of tactics.

2017-06-28 23:39:07 UTC

For now whomever is organizing earns the right to call the shots. If anyone doesn't like it:
Create your own brand and publicize your own events

2017-06-28 23:40:51 UTC

I wouldn't call really IE "moderate". Not after being involved in so much activism with the organization and 1 on 1 conversations with IE leadership. Although I am happy we come off that way. We put a lot of work into our brand and optics, and it pays off with how many high quality applicants we usher into the family every week.

2017-06-28 23:40:55 UTC

We throw them off by with nice guy nationalism... then BAM! Slam the door on the oven.

2017-06-28 23:41:09 UTC

^ 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

2017-06-28 23:42:02 UTC

Yeah I see IE as moderate since the only thing they are pushing for is whiteness, no preference in fashy economic systems. Barebones white nationalism

2017-06-28 23:43:09 UTC

IE isn't setting the edge. That's not their role. By have always having someone more extreme it gives anyone less extreme wiggle room.

2017-06-28 23:43:21 UTC

Well IE is 14 with an optional 88.

2017-06-28 23:44:37 UTC

This is how the left has worked for a century and it's why they are freaking out now that we have groups even accidentally employing these tactics.

2017-06-28 23:45:25 UTC

And by having slightly more extremes it tests the waters a bit on what you can get away with in an ideology

2017-06-28 23:47:43 UTC

Yup, IE can speak to the masses. This frees up the shitlords to rustle some jimmies, and they just need to agree and amplify.

2017-06-28 23:48:03 UTC

In a world with Richard Spencer getting any attention at all Rep Steve King and Clay Higgins can say things that people yawn at.

2017-06-28 23:50:17 UTC

We're just not a political organization. We work on a metapolitical level to influence political change. We keep politics out of the public eye.

2017-06-28 23:53:49 UTC

I agree with the strategy of convincing those on the fence. That's where we are in today's political landscape.

2017-06-28 23:59:05 UTC

Redpill all the civic nationalists

2017-06-29 00:20:42 UTC

Focusing on exclusively "red pilling all of group X" is poor strategy. People are systematically trained to reject extremes.

2017-06-29 00:26:23 UTC

The tactic is to keep putting the message out there in all forms possible to all receptive audiences through a variety of medium.

2017-06-29 00:26:56 UTC

The power of audacity is what draws people in.

2017-06-29 00:30:38 UTC

We need more numbers and we ultimately need to win the hearts and minds of the voters. We're going to need to play the Democratic system until it bites the dust

2017-06-29 00:31:02 UTC

*which is hopefully soon reee*

2017-06-29 00:32:20 UTC

Extremists don't "try to be extreme" find your niche & push the agenda. 14 words is the bare minimum. Personally I won't waste my time on the civics, I think you'll have better luck converting left wing radicals. Revolutionaries are revolutionaries, they just need to wake up to the fact that they're fighting for the wrong team. Civics seek to maintain a system that is bent on white genocide. We will not vote our way out of this, but I'm happy to help my white brothers & sisters any time, any place. So I'll see all you moderates in Cville

2017-06-29 00:35:53 UTC

Democracy has clearly failed but it has a military holding it's lifeless corpse up for the time being

2017-06-29 00:37:32 UTC

Fully agreed, they will be there just like they are at every event to show their power, by continuing to keep the 2 opposing factions at Bay they demonstrate to the Normie that they are the true power in the street. Lemmings follow power. This is why erosion of system power is fundamental to our cause.

2017-06-29 00:44:03 UTC

Some civics still think they can vote out of it. The treatment of Trump has been a red pill of its own to others.

2017-06-29 00:45:30 UTC

I know a couple guys who were Bernie followers who got red pilled when the Jew reverted to type. They are now solid 14 words and exploring 88

2017-06-29 00:52:10 UTC

We will all talk more in Cville, looking forward to it!

2017-06-29 01:17:47 UTC

I think it's good we recognize that the full truth and natural order must be restored

2017-06-29 01:18:52 UTC

There's no voting out of this.

2017-06-29 01:20:29 UTC

The masses don't want your message, it's unsafe to hold it. The system crashes down on them and threatens their livelihood for it.

2017-06-29 01:21:03 UTC

The lemmings will follow along with what the system says to believe, blue is red, peace is war, slavery is freedom. So long as their comfort is assured.

2017-06-29 01:23:20 UTC

Telling the truth is essential but another part of the truth is we need muscle to insure it gets out there and is not further suffocated by the system.

What is wrong with the "but muh PR!!!" Isn't that people necessarily disagree with you on that but it's the wrong mentality to placate your enemy and seek to be subjugated to the opinion of the masses.

2017-06-29 01:54:18 UTC

Any contentious event needs the polished appearance around the speaker for public consumption. The hoi poloi around for atmospherics. These dedicated activist give the appearances of mass appeal.

Then there needs to be a protection/enforcement we all know what they are for. There is no "minimum threshold." Anyone who wants/likes to fight and has a modicum of discipline is welcome

2017-06-29 02:04:06 UTC

If the Proud Boys, Aryan Brotherhood, or random biker gangs want to come knock heads, cool.

2017-06-29 02:06:03 UTC

Funny enough, I am going to PR school right now. The most applicable takeaway so far is that you need to network with third-party allies and call on them to push limited agendas that fit within your broad agenda.

2017-06-29 02:06:29 UTC

—Which is somewhat what we've been doing.

2017-06-29 02:12:28 UTC

Also @Tyrone You are aware that the AB overwhelmingly does not really give a shit about the 14 Words?

2017-06-29 02:13:24 UTC

Neither do the proud boys.

2017-06-29 02:14:23 UTC

They aren't philosophers or orators. They are their for intimidating or if that fail enforcing.

2017-06-29 02:15:31 UTC

If 70 IQ dindus can do it we can find a guy with a Reichstag Eagle on his head and we will just ask him to wear a hat.

2017-06-29 02:17:35 UTC

I also have a feeling that they are apolitical because people run like bitches from association. I just kind like the idea of weaponizing them against the rainbow coalition.

2017-06-29 02:19:04 UTC

Based Stickman doesn't have a coherent world view either, he just likes to fight.

2017-06-29 02:23:24 UTC

You know what happened when the Rolling Stones contracted the Hell's Angels for concert security?

2017-06-29 02:25:24 UTC

—Overall point being, don't rely on people who don't have a modicum of discipline and don't consider themselves to share your cause, at least more than superficially.

2017-06-29 02:26:25 UTC

What I will say for the AB is that their logo isn't literally a BBC.

2017-06-29 03:00:41 UTC

Shamrock tattoos are implicitly white.

2017-06-29 03:02:29 UTC

I'm familiar with what Hell's Angels did. To this day, no one fucks with them.

2017-06-29 03:04:06 UTC

I wish people still had the same respect/reverence/fear for what white people have done across the planet when we take off the restrictor plate.

2017-06-29 04:10:39 UTC

GAS ALL KIKES AND HANG ALL NIGGERS

2017-06-29 04:11:04 UTC

<@&321389309162815488>

2017-06-29 04:11:06 UTC

GAS ALL KIKES AND HANG ALL NIGGERS

2017-06-29 04:11:18 UTC

oy vey its like another shoah

2017-06-29 04:11:37 UTC

this shower looks funny

2017-06-29 04:12:20 UTC

i don't even remembah

2017-06-29 04:13:21 UTC

@Hand Banana what is your training regimen for your duel with Mr "Fvtvre Soldier" Strasser?

2017-06-29 04:16:58 UTC

@Hand Banana we'll arrange that for the after party.

2017-06-29 04:24:29 UTC

@пидорновичок I'm eating 37 raw eggs a day

2017-06-29 04:24:51 UTC

37 raw eggs a day 37 raw eggs a day 37 raw eggs a day 37 raw eggs a day

2017-06-29 04:25:20 UTC

Holy shit you're fucked <:futuresoldier:324384735675547658> @JohnStrasser

2017-06-29 04:32:11 UTC

Thats it

2017-06-29 04:32:15 UTC

I'm dirty bulking

2017-06-29 04:35:56 UTC

No exercise at all, trying to retain mass

2017-06-29 04:42:47 UTC

@Matthias Can you give me the IE tag?

2017-06-29 04:43:27 UTC

Thanks fam

2017-06-29 16:05:18 UTC

@everyone I would strongly recommend that you stop antagonizing alt-light groups through to the event. We're already going to get a unified liberal and media attack on us. We should focus our attack on them.

2017-06-29 16:06:09 UTC

@everyone If an alt-light or cuckservative specifically attacks our event that's another story. You should post about it here so we can attack them as a unified battalion

2017-06-29 16:07:39 UTC

2017-06-29 16:07:39 UTC

It's literally called "Unite the Right", there's no reason to be countersignalling alt lite guys imo. Unless they're like Oathcucks who are threatening to come and "Shut us down", but that's a bit different

2017-06-29 16:07:45 UTC

2017-06-29 16:08:46 UTC

There are a lot of reasons to attack the alt-lite. But we should also only be attacking them if they provoke it, and as Jason said, we should attack them as a group.

2017-06-29 16:09:09 UTC

The Oathkeepers aren't planning to come to this event. If any of them come it's because they're breaking away from the leadership to hear what we have to say.

2017-06-29 16:11:26 UTC

Are the Rebel Media guys going to be there? They're pretty much the only ones that I have a serious problem with

2017-06-29 16:11:40 UTC

Mostly just because of how they acted in DC

2017-06-29 16:12:03 UTC

Navy Cuck has been tweeting people to skip Charlottesville. He's clearly afraid his own may attend. Let's make sure all are welcome. It's how we'll grow as the alt-light comes apart

2017-06-29 16:13:14 UTC

There are certain people like Allsup, Baked, Augustus who are formerly alt-lite but can't really be characterized by that any longer. They are fine and I now consider many of them trusted friends. But Loomer, Posobiec, Cernovich, many Oathkeeper leaders, Wintrich and so on need to be metaphorically gassed away from our circles. We extended the olive branch. They lashed out in every possible way. It's time to shame every single one of them. @MadDimension

2017-06-29 16:23:48 UTC

Anyone ever thought about not worrying about what the E-Celebs do? No need to worry about whos doing what. Wasted energy waiting for someone to come out of the closet.

2017-06-29 16:27:51 UTC

@Matthias Getting into a protracted fight with them right now will turn a lot of people off. I think we should be the bigger men for the time being. When we say to the general public that we can Unite the Right we shouldn't be bickering and undercutting our argument

2017-06-29 16:28:58 UTC

If we take the high ground and they attack us it makes them seem petty and jealous because they weren't included in the United Right. Let them fall into that trap

2017-06-29 16:32:14 UTC

At some level this movement should not turn into just a giant flame war, yes. But this is about taking power and leading people into our movement. Their criticism of this event that it's just a way for figures to fall in with the alt-right is largely correct, frankly. That's what they're afraid of. And everyone in this movement knows that bullying works. That's why we shame them for cucking. We expose them as fundamentally lacking to the normies. @MadDimension

2017-06-29 16:35:56 UTC

We're going to have an opportunity to define ourselves to a lot of people who've never heard us unfiltered by the media. We want to show strength and leadership. I believe that is what will separate us. If we seem petty we will not be seen as capable to lead.

2017-06-29 16:39:19 UTC

We should focus on winning over people who don't know much about us (whom there are many of) rather than solidifying the hatred of fellow-travelers who aren't yet as red-pilled as we are

2017-06-29 16:41:39 UTC

I'm sorry Jason but this is total war. Countering their insane and frankly illegal accusations and responding to literal physical attacks on our guys is not petty. We have to shed the fat and totally distinguish ourselves.

2017-06-29 16:45:32 UTC

I think there's a bit of a distiction between calling out hacks and shills like Posobeic, Wintrich, and the rest, and fundamentally rejecting the people that make up the alt lite as a whole

2017-06-29 16:56:14 UTC

Cernovich and Posobiec wouldn't be welcomed at this event if they tried to come. They're incapatible. If Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, 3%ers, or Confederate Heritage members want to come and protect the speakers and attendees in good faith then we won't reject them

2017-06-29 16:57:08 UTC

We especially want to protect the Confederate heritage people

2017-06-29 16:58:02 UTC

Any Oath Keeper or Proud Boy who attends wouldn't be sanctioned by their group. and wouldn't come in with the same agenda

2017-06-29 17:04:55 UTC

@The Soy Goy is correct though I am skeptical of the Oathkeepers. Nevertheless it's public. Again, I'm referring to shaming the alt-lite figureheads. Maybe that was misunderstood on my mistake.

2017-06-29 17:15:33 UTC

@everyone Would anyone like to volunteer to burn a Pride flag at the event?

2017-06-29 17:16:01 UTC
2017-06-29 17:16:23 UTC

Doesn't seem like a good idea. Media's already on our ass. Don't wanna give them any more ammo to use.

2017-06-29 17:16:39 UTC

Not a good idea

2017-06-29 17:17:29 UTC

What did the Furher say about being demonized by the Judenpresse? Ain't that a good thing?

2017-06-29 17:17:53 UTC

It's supposed to be constitutionally protected speech but if they fine you for it I'll pay the fine

2017-06-29 17:18:03 UTC

There are two camps of thought: the escalators and the steady movers

2017-06-29 17:18:11 UTC

I'd be down to burn one

2017-06-29 17:18:46 UTC

I'll burn one but not sure if giving the media ammo for this rally is a good idea

2017-06-29 17:19:03 UTC

What Wintrich and Cernovich and the others accused Spencer of is good enough reason to behead them. It shows they are out of ammo and this was their last attempt to dethrone us. They must be dragged to the death while they are faltering.

2017-06-29 17:19:22 UTC

And honestly (((SHOCK))) actually does garner the imagination best

2017-06-29 17:19:42 UTC

Tbh after the recent hate spree of Youtube comments on those pride videos, I'll bet normies would love it if we burned a pride flag

2017-06-29 17:20:39 UTC

Most people are not down with fellating the gay community, no pun intended

2017-06-29 17:20:54 UTC

(ok sorta intended)

2017-06-29 17:21:22 UTC

@MadDimension whoa are we Identitarians or social conservatives? Burning pride flag seems dangerously off message

2017-06-29 17:23:20 UTC

If our identitarian message does not combat degeneracy what is it worth?

2017-06-29 17:23:54 UTC

@missliterallywho Freudian slip

2017-06-29 17:24:02 UTC

I'll burn a LGBT flag. I'll burn them all.

2017-06-29 17:24:38 UTC

I understand combatting degeneracy, but this is going a little too far, especially for a rally like this.

2017-06-29 17:25:22 UTC

True. But still; I would be up to it if the opportunity presented itself. Fuck homonormativity.

2017-06-29 17:25:27 UTC

We already burn books. It's whatever.

2017-06-29 17:26:05 UTC

451 but burning flags.

2017-06-29 17:26:20 UTC

The Pride flag is no longer about gays. It has become a de-facto Multiculturalism flag

2017-06-29 17:26:33 UTC

Nevertheless.

2017-06-29 17:27:27 UTC

The Cultural Marxists are using the Pride flag to taunt us about multiculturalism

2017-06-29 17:27:57 UTC

Burn that shit! 🔥 🏳️‍🌈🔥

2017-06-29 17:27:58 UTC

I think it'd be wise to ask Nathan first. Seems smart. You don't wanna just break out the flag and torch it right there.

2017-06-29 17:28:18 UTC

If we don't burn it, we need to claim it as the official flag of Racial Separation

2017-06-29 17:28:31 UTC

Poopdick and the homo agenda are not as popular and they'd like you to believe. I think edgy normies could get behind us burning it.

2017-06-29 17:28:40 UTC

^^

2017-06-29 17:28:59 UTC

And not edgy normies will secretly love us for it, deep in their hearts

2017-06-29 17:30:55 UTC

As based Osama said, we present ourselves as the strong horse capable of fighting back

2017-06-29 17:31:11 UTC

That flag is everywhere: YouTube, Google, churches, coffeehouses, comic book stores

2017-06-29 17:31:40 UTC

It really is the flag of zog poz

2017-06-29 17:34:06 UTC

🤣🔥🔥😫🏳️‍🌈😭🔥🔥🤣

2017-06-29 17:34:21 UTC

@MadDimension it's retarded to burn a pride flag publicly

2017-06-29 17:34:31 UTC

Why?

2017-06-29 17:34:41 UTC

Muh optics

2017-06-29 17:35:06 UTC

It's become sacrosanct. That's a problem

2017-06-29 17:35:13 UTC

Gays are a small minority. Burn a communist or anarchist flag.

2017-06-29 17:35:19 UTC
2017-06-29 17:36:07 UTC

It's not about gays. I don't care about gays. That damn flag has become the de-facto symbol for Cultural Marxism.

2017-06-29 17:36:50 UTC

So has the communist or anarchist flag.

2017-06-29 17:36:57 UTC

It would get a real reaction. No one would give a damn about burning a commie flag.

2017-06-29 17:37:05 UTC

Lol what is the "communist flag"?

2017-06-29 17:37:47 UTC

The hammer and sickle

2017-06-29 17:37:51 UTC

The Pride flag is the symbol of the UN, of Zog, of Silicon Valley, of the Democrat Party, of our ethnic and cultural replacement

2017-06-29 17:37:52 UTC

Burn the fag flag

2017-06-29 17:38:01 UTC

So the USSR flag

2017-06-29 17:38:11 UTC

I don't remember commie pride being pushed by major corporations

2017-06-29 17:38:18 UTC

Yeah I'm assuming that's what she meant

2017-06-29 17:38:26 UTC

"Faggotry amounts to sexually transmitted Judaism."

2017-06-29 17:38:38 UTC

BURN THE FUCKING QURAN

2017-06-29 17:39:14 UTC

Fags aren't who the alt-right attacks. And people aren't going to see the nuance in us burning a fag flag.

2017-06-29 17:40:21 UTC

Like I said, I don't care about gays. I think we should make a distinction that the Pride flag is about white genocide

2017-06-29 17:40:26 UTC

gotta burn portraits of all the shitty leaders, from marx to obama

2017-06-29 17:40:46 UTC

our own lil holocaust

2017-06-29 17:40:52 UTC

Gays are inherently about white genocide. They are a genetic deadend.

2017-06-29 17:41:02 UTC

They can't be allowed to keep using that flag without being criticized

2017-06-29 17:41:23 UTC

should burn it in the days before so can trigger more people to show up

2017-06-29 17:41:32 UTC

They have a propaganda tool in that Pride flag that has become as sacrosanct as the Jews

2017-06-29 17:41:47 UTC

Burning the flag without comment is worrisome. Making a speech explaining the nuance of the act first would be useful.

2017-06-29 17:41:59 UTC

*could be worrisome

2017-06-29 17:42:05 UTC

I'm not worried personally

2017-06-29 17:42:35 UTC

I think burning the flag is only useful if we can distinguish that it is a multiculturalism flag at this point

2017-06-29 17:42:50 UTC

@MadDimension it's not about what you and all of us see. It's about how the rest of the world will perceive it. People will exclude whatever speech you make before burning the flag, and it'll just be "NAZIS WANT TO GENOCIDE FAGS". It's a retarded idea.

2017-06-29 17:42:57 UTC

make a lampshade out of the flag <:pepe:321791202578006017>

2017-06-29 17:43:39 UTC

And normies worth a damn will say "hell yes I'm sick of this fag shit. Looks like these people are trying to stop it."

2017-06-29 17:43:47 UTC

Why not burn them all at the same time?

2017-06-29 17:43:54 UTC

Would be a great photo

2017-06-29 17:44:34 UTC

should cut the flag into pieces and keep the colors separated

2017-06-29 17:44:39 UTC

@Erika have you read Mein Kampf? There's a chapter in it about propaganda, and Kessler has the right idea.

2017-06-29 17:45:47 UTC

@Erika There will be so much going on at this event the media headline will not be about gays. The only PR issue we have to worry about is the avoiding the Nazi and Klan imagery. Other than that I'd say it's at least open for debate

2017-06-29 17:47:10 UTC

If it's reported at all it will be as part of a general anti-multiculturalism vibe to the rally

2017-06-29 17:47:32 UTC

Burning the Pride flag would strike right at the heart of the liberal safe space

2017-06-29 17:47:59 UTC

@卐 Heimdulf - VA 卐 I've read Mein Kampf multiple times. No normies will be sympathetic to what we're trying to do if we're burning a pride flag. Normies have literally no clue of the connection between fag shit and Marxism. Most normies aren't event aware of Marxism.

2017-06-29 17:49:17 UTC

@MadDimension the media headline will absolutely be about gays if you start burning pride flags. Ignore faggot shit. The headlines coming out of this event shouldn't have anything to do with us being against gays, and that's what a pride flag burning will turn it into.

2017-06-29 17:51:12 UTC

@Erika a They're already going to say we're racist, KKK, Nazis. Do you really think 'homophobic' will trump all that other stuff?

2017-06-29 17:51:34 UTC

Gay pride is shoved in normies faves constantly. We're not the only ones sick of it.

2017-06-29 17:51:41 UTC

faces*

2017-06-29 17:52:15 UTC

I'm really sick of that fucking flag. I can't go one day without seeing it

2017-06-29 17:53:40 UTC

Why give them ammunition when it won't be a net benefit to us? There's no clear message to burning a pride flag other than "Nazis want to kill gays." I'm especially not okay with it after the progress myself and my Florida IE crew just made in Florida

2017-06-29 17:54:01 UTC

The answer to this can be encapsulated by one question: do we want to appear more pro-white or anti-Marxist?

2017-06-29 17:54:21 UTC

Both go hand in hand

2017-06-29 17:54:29 UTC

They already think we want to kill blacks and jews lol

2017-06-29 17:54:37 UTC

Not to normies, though.

2017-06-29 17:55:05 UTC

@Erika Don't you agree that that flag is no longer about gay marriage? That it's become a symbol of Cultural Marxism, mass immigration and white genocide?

2017-06-29 17:55:07 UTC

WWHD?

2017-06-29 17:55:14 UTC

Normies already don't believe the sensationalist bullshit the media writes about us.

2017-06-29 17:55:31 UTC

Normie conservatives hate all the pro-sodomite stuff forced down their throat, this will appeal to them, not scare them off

2017-06-29 17:55:58 UTC

To us, yes. @MadDimension. To the society at large, no. It still means strictly gay shit to most people.

2017-06-29 17:56:31 UTC

How did mostly everyone here get redpilled in the first place?

2017-06-29 17:56:37 UTC

By doing your own research

2017-06-29 17:57:25 UTC

I used to look down to what most of the NSM groups do, then you do your own digging. Theres only so much we can do to appeal to them. Its up to them to do the learning

2017-06-29 17:57:30 UTC

Even most right wing christians believe in the "love everyone" bullshit. They probably won't understand the message we're trying to convey

2017-06-29 17:57:31 UTC

My impression is that normies are sick of having that flag pushed on them everywhere. I don't think the Eternal Normie will go into convulsions about the flag being defiled. People are sick of that flag being treated like a God

2017-06-29 17:59:07 UTC

Seriously. The gay issue is not important to me. What is important is seeing that flag turned into an international megacorp, globalist, zog propaganda tool

2017-06-29 17:59:33 UTC

If you see that Pride flag hung up in your work place I guarantee you it means the employers discriminate against white men in the hiring process

2017-06-29 17:59:56 UTC

Or we can take it for our selves

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321378710265659393/330044734993334272/image.jpg

2017-06-29 18:00:26 UTC

The Eternal Normie also hates anything that can be construed as "judgmental" because it reflects their own degeneracy back on them. If we do it, we should be sure that we have the right optics around it because if we don't have the political capital for it, it will back fire.

2017-06-29 18:00:26 UTC

People don't understand your mindset on this @MadDimension

2017-06-29 18:00:29 UTC

We'll never be able to reappropriate that flag. No way I'm flying it personally

2017-06-29 18:01:09 UTC

Jason is exactly right. It's not the flag of gays it's the flag of international leftism. Even normies know this.

2017-06-29 18:01:22 UTC

Just leave fag shit out of the rally. We can convey our message in a more appropriate way that we not completely backfire on us.

2017-06-29 18:01:40 UTC

Normies do know the true intent of the flag is not just about gays. They arent that stupid

2017-06-29 18:02:11 UTC

Midwesterners don't.

2017-06-29 18:02:22 UTC

Normies are stupid. That's why they're normies.

2017-06-29 18:03:20 UTC

Moonman said to ignore the fags, so I will

2017-06-29 18:03:43 UTC

The fag question will have to be answered someday; but this LGBT+ normalization, and or multiculturalism being linked to said flag; along with all the corporations etc... using this flag as branding needs to stop, and if we have to burn a few flags, I'm all for it.

F A G G E N O I C I D E N O W .

2017-06-29 18:03:54 UTC

"Impeach a nigger, expose the jew Deport the spics and the muslims too Teach the traitors, ignore the fags Save our lands from jewish grasps"

2017-06-29 18:04:08 UTC

-Moonman

2017-06-29 18:04:08 UTC

I think the greatest strength of the Right wing is that we convey truths and secret emotions that people suppress because of social stigma. I think the heartland of America is sick and tired of that fucking flag

2017-06-29 18:04:43 UTC

Burning a symbol that normie conservatives hate isn't bad optics. It's actually really good optics.

2017-06-29 18:05:21 UTC

I say we burn Israeli flags instead who's with me

2017-06-29 18:05:46 UTC

Burning the Pride flag will piss the hell out of the media but it will signal strength to normie conservatives that we're not afraid to tear down the idolatry of the Left

2017-06-29 18:05:50 UTC

The right wing normie population at large absolutely doesn't tie fags to leftism at large. One of the last realizations I came to when getting red pilled is the ties between gays and Marxism and that homosexuality is completely toxic to the west an our people. Most people don't tie all of this together. They'll just see it as Nazis attacking gays.

2017-06-29 18:06:29 UTC

@MadDimension normie conservatives wouldn't be normie conservatives if they had the balls to tear down the idolatry of the left.

2017-06-29 18:06:36 UTC

@Erika It's not about gays! The Pride flag has become an international symbol for multiculturalism. We all know this

2017-06-29 18:06:51 UTC

WE know this.

2017-06-29 18:07:00 UTC

But the normies don't know that that's her point

2017-06-29 18:07:18 UTC

Normie conservatives WANT somebody to have the balls to attack leftist idolatry. That's where we come in burning fag flags.

2017-06-29 18:07:37 UTC

THE MEDIA WILL MAKE IT ABOUT GAYS. Do you really not get the point I'm trying to make here? Step out of your box and try to think from a normie perspective

2017-06-29 18:08:00 UTC

Smh

2017-06-29 18:08:09 UTC

Exactly. Normie Conservatives should be looking to us for leadership on these culture war issues they don't have the guts to fight

2017-06-29 18:08:18 UTC

@SchoolShooterRecruiter again, it's about Leftist idolatry to us. It's not to them.

2017-06-29 18:08:26 UTC

Normie conservatives should but I doubt they will

2017-06-29 18:08:51 UTC

Normie conservatives are basically fags too

2017-06-29 18:08:54 UTC

Not yet. They don't even know who we are yet

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