Can anyone @here speak to the value of taking a programming class? I'm interested to learn some basic programming but I wouldn't consider myself tech savvy and I doubt I could learn through reading or watching videos on my own

@StrawberryArmada this is a good, common conversation so let's keep it public.

First: what do you want to be able to do with programming? Be as specific or general as you like. It's a broad skillset.

I have a computer science degree and let me tell you it didn't really come naturally to me the first time I took a class (almost failed). Anything that requires a lot of skill requires patience and practice

I say "let's keep it public" because normally I would do a voice chat.

@StrawberryArmada talk to Lukas bro

Creating bots and doing web design would be useful

If that even involves programming much

I honestly don't know

Why do you think you can't learn on your own?

I've tried to learn stuff like Python and Java myself with books and videos but

I think I lack the inclination to get it without more guidance

What don't you "get"? Honest question.

I have the option to take a class at school

I really don't understand what programming languages even are

I don't know how people figure what to put in and where to put it

I can't really tell if there's supposed to be some big list of premise commands

I getcha.

Or if people invent stuff and the computer just figures it out somehow

I don't even know how computers work really

OK, let me start by saying that "knowing how to program" is very much a continuum.

It's a huge skillset. For example, I make applications primarily for automated analysis and visualization of scientific data.

I don't know nuffin about languages like C and Clojure, and I don't need to right now

Similarly I know very little about networking

the "college question" when it comes to programming is a tricky one

I went the STEM route. I have two masters' degrees in engineering. But I didn't really know anything about coding until I got out of school

I taught myself. But those skills that I taught myself are used literally 10X more than anything I learned in school

I probably could have skipped all that college altogether

similarly the CIO where I work barely has a high-school diploma, and one of our mutual friends is a self-made multimillionaire who taught himself some tech stuff and got into the phone-dialer business.

Incidentally I'll be consulting with him to answer @Procella Eques 's question

I've also met people with CS degrees who can't actually solve problems using code

think about programming this way: different languages have different core philosophies and strengths/weaknesses

what I can do in server-side javascript, I can also do with Python, more or less. But some problems will be easier to solve with Python, others with Javascript.

Once you learn a single language, others come much easier

What does it mean to learn a programming language

I started out with PHP, then went to Perl, then C#, then Python and JavaScript

How similar is it to natural language if at all

It means you can solve problems using the grammar and syntax of that language.

"learning" is a constant process

that's the joy of it, but it takes some getting used to

So there's rules like grammar in the way you put commands in and commands are like vocabulary?

yes

Glad I studied linguistics for once

one thing that frustrates many people starting out (including me) is that the computer will do *exactly what you tell it*

you might not understand what you're telling it at first, but it will always faithfully execute your commands as long as your code is valid 😃

don't think of programming as something exotic or big-brain. it's not

at the same time, don't try to learn by diving into the code of some large project. you'll be asking yourself way too many questions to make any progress

here's my recommendation. First, tell yourself you're going to learn. tell yourself you're not going to quit

there are going to be times you'll want to totally give up, because something you think should be simple just doesn't work.

but the effort you expend solving that problem will be valuable in the end because you will learn a lot of tricks and gain a deeper understanding in the process

there's a LOT to learn, but you don't have to know everything or even a lot to start writing useful things

so back to my recommendation. Steel yourself, and then dive in.

Take your time as you're learning. Do a little a day. Make sure you understand everything.

I recommend starting with "How to Think Like a Computer Scientist" or "Python the Hard Way"

either one will get you the same basic knowledge in the end

again, don't rush through it. do the exercises

if you do a chapter a day you'll have the fundamentals within a week

at that point, start thinking of simple problems to solve using code

one problem I tackled very early on is the Monty Hall problem

it's conceptually simple and a good conversation piece

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem

https://www.learnpythonthehardway.org/

http://openbookproject.net/thinkcs/python/english2e/

Once you get through one of those books, you'll have a much greater understanding of programming fundamentals. You'll have the foundation in place to tackle something more specific.

Get back to me once you've done that and we can talk some more. AMA along the way.

Gonna knock out an FtN article before bed 😃

Hmmm. "Learn Python the Hard Way" used to be free

I've *heard* that if you go to qwant.com and search for "learn python the hard way pdf" you'll find that free version still floating around out there.

Could I pick these up at a library?

possibly. but there are free PDFs as well

you can try this too ?: https://www.codecademy.com/

Anyone @here that familiar with Java?

@here anybody here good with video editing, specifically adobe premier pro? I am editing some go pro footage the quality is coming out less than desireable. I think i have all the settings right. • Format: H264
• Preset: HD 720 p 29.97 or 1080 for super high
• Width 1280
• Progressive square pixel
• Profile: high
• Level 5.2

@Brandon Ironside- ND sorry man i use sony vegas pro

i find youtube to actually be a really good resource on video editing techniques if you phrase your query directly

come to think of it - i am wondering what quality the raw go-pro footage is 720 at 60fps or 1080 at 30 fps, right?

Yea its a hero 3 so 1080p or 720p. When I play the raw footage it is really good quality then after editing and rendering i loose alot of quality but im exporting in 720p so i dont know why its doing that.

@Lukas - NC I'm fluent in C#, which has a lot in common with Java. If you're trying to figure out what's wrong with a particular bit of code, I might be able to help.

@Brandon Ironside- ND I haven't used Premiere in years, but I do work quite a bit in After Effects these days. Losing a lot of quality is interesting, something is happening there beyond just you saying "output dimensions = input dimensions" some interpolation or re-compression is happening. How "bad" does it look? post a before and after pic of a couple of the frames...

how do i rebase to a past commit? I keep trying to rebase -i t <past ssh> but it says there is a sytax error

i removed the last commit but it unstaged it how do delete the past stages to clean up my terminal?

nvm got it

hard reset force push got it done

@Brandon Ironside- ND what bitrate are you exporting the video at?

Resolution is one thing but bitrate would be the quality as opposed to the resolution.

```var words =(hello, hi, howdy)

function findLongWords(arr, num){
const result= arr.filter(arr => arr.length > num);
return result;
}

findLongWords (words, 4)```

I don't know what i'm doing incorrectly

@sigruna14

@Bobby - Pa Use [] instead of () around the word list. They're insulted you're comparing them to Jews and so they don't wanna cooperate. Also in the future please post your exact error message.

```
var words = ["hello", "hi", "howdy"];

function findLongWords(arr, num){
var result = []
for (var i = 0; i < arr.length; i++)
// console.log(arr[i]);
if (arr[i].length > num) {
console.log(arr[i]);
result += [arr[i] + ", "];
}
return result;
}

findLongWords (words, 4);
```
just got it, I'm ashamed of my behavior towards the code, I hope it can forgive me one day, and will do, thanks man i appreciate it.

@sigruna14

Haha cool. Oh and good catch, need quotes around the words, too.

Anyone here use dirpy to download music from youtube? @here

I've just used those free websites.

which ones are those?

i am having trouble downloading complete songs on dirpy.. it'll download the first 30-60 secs of a song but thats it

it used to download the entire song perfectly fine

I just google youtube downloader.

bunch of free ones

Sounds like it was a demo copy that expired. I can't download anything anymore because of some problem with routing ports. Happened out of nowhere. Torrents don't work and neither does soulseek. Basically went from getting anything I wanted in great quality to being a pleb.

Ytdownload has a pretty good music snatcher

Wait actually that might not be the name of it

It's youtube-dl

i try searching for a Mega download, and normally can find what i need

How can you edit a picture to be smaller for email? I use Startmail and editing it to zoom in and save doesn't seem to be working. If I do a straight upload it is huge.

I use Microsoft Office Picture Manager for quick jobs.

RIP, looks like it's been discontinued. F

@Deleted User If you're going to be routinely resizing files, I recommend FastStone Photo Resizer. It's a free application.

Anyone here ever use Prolog? I got really into it a while ago

@Deleted User Ok, thank you for the tip!

jeezus where the fuck am i

Haha

i just want a computer lads; not trying to hack into the NSA

Depending on what you’re looking for, check these guys out.

http://www.digitalstorm.com

http://www.logicalincrements.com/

thanks doods

I do PC builds for a living. It's easy...like legos.

Don't be scared 😉

Making desktops is fun.

Just make sure to get the right motherboard for your processor.

Do not buy cyberpowerpc - they use cheap components and their PCs come into the shop all the time for repairs

Bad link, requires signing in to google

I will say if you're doing autocad you will probably want an Nvidia Quadro video card.

16GB RAM will help you work on larger projects.

ight ill put it together online and run if by yall if you dont mind

pcpartpicker

Hey guys, I have a quick question. Would anyone suggest buying a VPN subscription for a computer, and if so, which one do you prefer?

@whiskeytangofoxtrot i just bought NordVPN

VPN.ac is what I use

Hmm, I’ll have to go check them out

I used to use frootvpn to torrent. They take bitcoin if you are concerned.

Question for a serious low techy here- I know there's some start up step by step websites like WIX out there-have been in the process of trying to finish getting my jewelry business started,have priducts made but need to finally get it online and start selling. For someone with no experience in that technical field,what would you suggest? I know there's Etsy,which charges you,same with ebay but is a lil cheaper but want to get started on my own route. Any Helpful advice or those with skills?

As I would Rather keep my focus on my artistic hand beaded jewelry skills and use a simple version thats super easy for me to use

@wolfwood Don't forget RGB, it make it run faster.

Only with the right pattern sequences !

Hold on there, you might over heat your computer with all that power.

Anyone have any advice for @celticflame ?

We have a lot of tech guys coming out of the woodwork now. Out of curiousity, how many sys admins do we have vs app developers

@this_that5553 I do some basic sys admin as part of my job.

@celticflame A popular way to make websites is WordPress, which gives a control panel for non techies to build the site. Once you have a wordpress site set up, then you add many ecommerce plugins that are there so you can have a little shop on your site. There are definitely guys here with WordPress skills (it's one of the most commonly requested skills on the job market). I don't know everyone who does in particular, but for example I know @Procella Eques has WordPress experience

@ThisIsChrisThankyou so much,really appreciate it!

competitor to bitchute looks nice https://about.d.tube/

@Zyzz I use `youtube-dl` to download videos and music from youtube

@celticflame you're welcome!

@this_that5553 Looks interesting!

@this_that5553 I don't think the voting is a great way to control content, though I get why they set it up that way

I'm sure Israeli hackers would just botnet downvote our videos and report them as nsfw

@ThisIsChris @nils thanks. I have a macbook. it seems like the download on a macbook is complicated. do either of you have any other (easier) suggestions?

@Zyzz nope but here are some easy-to-follow instructions to install and use youtube-dl:
1. open Terminal
2. copy-paste this and hit enter:
`/usr/bin/ruby -e "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install)"`
3. When that finishes run `brew install youtube-dl`

That's all you need to install `youtube-dl`.

Then to download a video at a url <http://www.youtube.com/whatever> just open terminal and run `youtube-dl http://www.youtube.com/whatever`

Wait, are you saying one needs to open the terminal and trigger it to download videos from the internet on a mac?

@Tyler0317 is looking for a web designer. DM him if you can help

@greg_p - TX With this specific method yes, but there are most likely others that can be used. Youtube-dl is pretty simple and works really well though

@greg_p - TX yep, it's afaik the most popular program for this type of thing. as @nils said

Oh. I just use plugins. Seems a lot easier to me.

@greg_p - TX what plug-in do you reccomend?

homebrew is amazing

windows choco doesn't compare

I think I have homebrew too but idk if I use it. Hold on, let me check

I have a couple different ones

brew doctor && brew upgrade

Video DownloadHelper
Flash Video Downloader (FVD)
Flash and Video Download (different from the above)
SaveFrom.net helper
Easy Youtube Video Downloader Express


Often times certain videos won't be available for download with one or more programs, but between multiple add-ons/extensions you will rarely miss a video.

@Zyzz ^^

I didn't know about youtube-dl, that's sick bruh

Yeah dude it has a lot of options, like `youtube-dl -x url` will just extract the audio

does anyone have a website recommendation where i can build a computer and have it shipped, instead of ordering the parts separately?

@wolfwood logicalincrements is a bit too complicated for me lol

@Deleted User got any suggestions?

I usually buy the components separately and assemble them. there's ibuypower.com that comes to mind immediately. let me check and see if I can find some others.

my hero

i can build an entire house, but this shit is a foreign language to me

There's also Falcon from way back. let me see if they're still active

LMK if you want advice tailored to your needs

https://www.falcon-nw.com/

they're expensive but ship absolutely top-of-the-line boxes

@Goose https://www.ibuypower.com/

@Goose and I discussed finding a pre-built PC in chat. We found a system meeting his needs on Newegg.

I'm catching up to the channel r/n. @celticflame are you all set?

@Deleted User is my savior lol

@celticflame check out Shopify. Wordpress with Woocommerce is fantastic but there is quite a bit of setup you have to do. Shopify is more turnkey without the massive cost overhead and shitlibbery of Etsy.

@Deleted Userinteresting, appreciate it

I think square space has ecommerce built in. But the amount it costs may not be good for a starting business

Ok

SquareSpace websites look very very good though. So the gain in a professional look might help get more business too

Has anyone heard of Steem or SteemIt social network?

https://steemit.com/faq.html#What_is_Steemit_com

Decided to check out the Shopify app,try going from there. My dogs are driving me nuts with concentration though since its Wednesday,evil garbage man day. But going to it soon when quiet and can focus

Yeah, that 15-day trial is helpful. LMK if you have questions.

@Deleted Usercool,i may just do that

@ me if/when you do because I'm in a lot of channels and don't do a good job of keeping up.

Ok

@everyone would anyone here with photoshop experience know how to blow up the 8x11 image of the Kate Steinle photo to about a 36x48 image without it degrading too much?

There’s a DACA event in Nashville where dreamers and their supporters have their portraits made and plastered onto a wall making a mural. I’d like to print a bunch of the Kate photos same size and paper over the Dreamers

The wall looks like this

That wall is disgusting

Just awful

Like a wall of very casual mugshots

@Deleted User How long will that wall be there? I would try to use a vector graphics program to make a vector of her photo. https://inkscape.org/en/

@this_that5553 Thanks man not sure but it’s up now and I’m ready to move on it ASAP

Just gotta get the file created and have them printed

@Deleted User https://m.wikihow.com/Create-a-Vector-Outline-With-a-Photo-and-Inkscape

Go go go!

If you can’t do it, I can try to make one now too

@this_that5553 problem is I’m at work and I can’t do anything beside research on this computer. I did just call some local print shops and I found someone that could print it that big including the labor to scale up the image

Rasterbator might work for that @Deleted User

I’d have to print it anyway and pay those costs so I’ll probably just do that

Do you want the text too? Or just the image?

Let me know if that works. I can't get the background to look the same. Not good enough with GIMP

@Deleted User You can then print it to like 6 pages in microsoft paint https://scottiestech.info/2009/08/08/how-to-easily-print-a-large-image-to-multiple-pages-in-windows/

@this_that5553 yeah I think I may have to go this route. I just went by the print store but they will not scale up the image. It would be great if the image had text are you able to do that? Would I still need to go and print it in multiple pages form?

Multiple pages is the way to go. Printing off a 36x48 is close to 40$ per. This way we could make many more, more labor intensive but no biggy

I can do one with the text very easily. I just thought you wanted it to look like the other peoples' photos

I do but at the same time I think it should have the text to stand out

@this_that5553 So is this image one that I could put into Microsoft paint to blow up?

Yeah, it should be 36x48. Try to open it in paint

@Deleted User

I’m on a Mac at work and can’t actually print here so just trying to run through the process. I also can’t load any apps on my work computer but I think I may have it figured out going through exel

@this_that5553 ok I think that will work on excel. I may have some cutting to do but no biggy. Do you think you could do that same image without the black bars on the side? I could cut them off but that makes all my pages uneven and will be harder to handle when putting them up. This is the wall btw

@Deleted User https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/48912/how-to-print-an-image-across-two-pages

@this_that5553 Awesome thanks! Will give you a HT when we get these up. You got a Twitter acct?

I was phone number cucked after calling someone a "cunt" :/

so, no not really anymore

Haha 👍🏻

Going to learn how to use Docker. I figure it's about time, since every self-hosted project out there has a Docker image

@spooky_kraut#8307

@Deleted User do you still need assistance with this? I'd be happy to help.

I got it man, just went right from safari and changed the size. Now we just need to hang em!

Fantastic idea. Good job coming up with it.

Where in Nashville is it, if you don't mind me asking?

Looks like Edgehill, but it's not clear.

@Deleted User On the side of Bongo East in east Nash I

East Nashville, I should have known

I imagine it's 10x worse than it was in 2013

@Deleted User @this_that5553

https://forum.therightstuff.biz/topic/70343/evil-nazis-deface-daca-mural-with-kate-steinle-posters

Bravo!

Nice

anybody have a preferred web hosting or domain registrar Im learning webdevelopement basics and would like to practice making some websites for a portfolio.

@Tyler Baker I like digitalocean

Pretty simple set up

You can use the one the one-click apps

Now what

@Deleted User