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Hello goyim and welcome to the outdoorsman channel! I am Mark Vandal and I will be one of your outdoorsman experts. I have spent a good deal of my life outdoors and have extensive survival training in jungles, mountains, deserts, forests, and snow all courtesy of the military. Ask and I will try my best to deliver. I am working on some basic start up guides to prepare you for the worst and just have fun in the great outdoors
Hello, I am the other moderator for outdoors channel. For the first post I would like to give a quick introduction on a basic hiking rucksack/Bug out Bag.
I have had good luck picking up military surplus backpacks off craigslist and have multiple MOLLE II packs(pictured below) and ALICE packs, all picked up for 30-65 dollars and make excellent entry level Backpacks.
Basic Content Overview:
Fire) - Ferro Rod, tinder, matches.
Shelter) - Tarp, Poncho, Tent Stakes, Sleeping Bag, Ground pad.
Water) – Water Filter, Canteen.
Food) - Alcohol stove, Mess Kit, Spork, MRE/Mountain house
Misc) – Small Forest Axe, Headlamp, Foot Powder, 550 cord, Microfiber towel/Body wash, Spare Clothes/Socks, Gloves, Rifle Cleaning Kit, Fixed Blade Knife, Hygiene Kit.
If anybody has questions on specific brands or anything you see let me know.
mil surpluss alice pack
foam bed roll
1 man scout tent
1 pair of cammies
1 pair of jungle boots kept close by pack
3 skivie rolls (more on these later)
1 shemage (multiple uses)
headlamp w/ extra bateries and red lense capabilites
1 cammo tarp
1 poncho liner
water purification tablits
rifle cleaning kit
theres so many things you can do with this and everyone has their preferance. i will make a more dedicated post on this at a later date
in my pack: a lighter
9 volt battery and steel wool
food: 3 feild striped MREs
i have tailored my pack for a more evasive purpose. if i have to get out of dodge and dissapear into the woods i stay gone for a bit. thats why i have my old woodland cammies, red lense, etc. nothing bright, nothing that sticks out
my weapons belt:
6 fully loaded mags
1 bayonet (sounds larpey but ive used this exact knife in survival situations and it works, I already had one and didn't want to spend more money)
first aid kit. made up of stuff i brought home form my kit in the military
What type of water filter?
And do you boil?
i dont have a dedicated filter in my pack cause i can make one out of things i can find in the forest ill make a post on how to make one of these. i can boil in my canteen cup if need be. im not going to carry a pot around with me.
1 pair of boot socks (NOT COTTON)
t shirt in the middle
underwear (compression shorts have never failed me)
pull end of sock onto each side
@Lebens i have a pack of purification tablets in my first aid kit as well.
This is a good starter book. Lots of great info on here. But you can't just read this and expect to be able to do it, you have to go out and actually practice these things. I'm not suggesting you go out in the woods Bear Grylls style. Don't do that lol. But you can make a fire, tie knots, build a shelter, make a water filter out of sand and charcoal all in your back yard if you can or go out camping for the week end and try out some things
Ah, almost forgot the most important item. Baby wipes. Good for cleaning weapons and body. You're not gonna want to use leaves for wiping your ass. I've done this, you don't want this
Tampons for wounds too?
Asking for a friend
@Lebens lol no. I've heard of people having those in their kits but I wouldn't recommend it. Most gun shot wounds are gonna be bigger than that. I have combat gauze in mine. But normal gauze to pack the wound is fine.
That's one of those things that when I hear people bring up in forums I roll my eyes.
@Lebens they make quick clot plungers that can fill deep wounds easily.
some medics refer to them as "tampons"
Thought he was talking about literal tampons. Some people unironically have those in their kit
What I have.
combat gauze is great stuff if anyone cannot find it due to it being a surplus item the regular quick clot or celox products are essentially the same thing
@Louis Loire - NY it is great stuff. I've got more than I know what to do with cause I saved all my first aid stuff from the military.
same I "acquired" quite a bit of supplies before my ETS
I look forward to learning other branches techniques. The navy didn't go very in depth on these things with my rate
Any opinion on this http://www.zeltbahn.net/tent.htm or similar products
I've got so much knowledge I want to lay down but I don't want to overwhelm people
http://m.ebay.com/itm/221964379086?_mwBanner=1 I thought these looked pretty interesting, I just don't know if it's worth it over getting a normal tarp
any surplus poncho is good stuff because you can also use it as a shelter if its made the same way the US ones are
if you don't already have a "woobie" (US poncho liner) get one now
Sleep with mine every night.
I sleep with mine often its the best piece of gear the military has ever made
@Louis Loire - NY dude no shit. It was always the perfect temperature. Bay far the best piece of gear I was ever issued
Yeah, I love my poncho liner 💯
@Mark Vandal IIRC (it's been 9 years now, or so) that particular brand of quick clot gauze (from your pic) we stopped carrying in combat due to a recall because it was "burning" itself to wounds, causing more trauma to the effected area. It LOOKS just like the ones we had when doc came around and changed all ours out. Maybe look into it, I dunno...or maybe manufacturer has fixed that prob since then.
@Phillip Wiglesworth - FL that is what I was issued as of less than a year and half ago
that was an old compound used as a homeostatic agent it was replaced long ago
most quick clot stuff will say NO HEAT now because of that
good then, didn't know if was old pic or not
like I said 9 years or so ago, same brand, glad they changed that shit. was leaving really nasty wounds
Celox is honestly better stuff then quick clot they just got most of the contracts
I'm gonna start compiling videos and guides for you guys and pin them here. We will start with something very basic but very useful. How to start a fire which I'll get to sometime tonight or tomorrow morning.
Wow, thanks. Look forward to it.
Just got this swedish hand forged axe on amazon for like 18$.
My friend has a Gransfors Bruks and it costs 150$, it looks very similar, same hickory handle. I can't comment on the forging techniques used, but reviews comparing the performance were praising the Husqvarna. It will last a lifetime just like the Gransfors Bruks
This is a great book I highly recommend. You'll never get off the shitter if it's in your bathroom.
As it turns out, chewing Weeping Willow bark is a good way to sooth inflammation and a fever, and promotes the immune system.
Willow bark= aspirin
Lets start with a basic camp fire. so you and your normie friends (if youve still got any by this point) decide to go camping.
But oh no! None of the men are worth a damn and they dont know how to start a camp fire. Well fear not cause your fashy ass is there to save the day as usual
By he end of this period of instuction youll be roasting hot dogs or commie books in no time.
First, saftey. Have some kind of water source, bucket of sand, or a shovel to put it out close by. Antifa tears are my go to choice
Clear your fire bed. Kick away everything till you only have dirt a good way around it, make it bigger than your fire. Gather your stones and what not if you got em and make a circle where you want your fire
You've got 4 basic types to start with
Now I personally have only ever used two of these, the teepee and the log cabin, and I only ever really use the teepee tbh fam
When building the fire, you want 3 parts: tinder, kindeling, and fuel. Starting from small and getting larger
Tinder. no youre not swiping right patrolling thots, your lighting this on fire. It needs to be small and fine. Dry Grass/ leaves, wood chips, tiny twigs, some pine needles. Whip out that pocket knife (why are you camping without one) and shave off some small shavings
Now you start building it up. You got your real small tinder in the middle very loosely packed (oxygen is key) and you start adding some slightly bigger tinder, then slightly bigger, so on and so on
Commie propaganda works great as well rip that paper up real small
Now add your kindeling. These are gonna be your medium sized stuff. Normal medium sticks, bark, etc. Go for about the size a pencil, working your way up slightly bigger and slightly bigger all the way around in the shape of a teepee
second picture from biggest to smallest. fuel, bigger kindeling/smaller fuel, smaller kindeling, tinder
@Mark Vandal Good stuff. Some folks grind their tinder into a powder aye?
Then the fuel wood. this is your bigger stuff now. about the size of your fourearm and wrist. As with the kindeling and tinder smaller to larger. No logs yet that when youve got this thing hot and roaring then you can starting pushing them in from the sides
@Deleted User i never have. but if you got some saw dust thats a good start but you want something more solid
Doesn't matter the kind of fire the basics remain the same
this is like any kind of skill you need practice. but once you get good at it youll never forget it. if this isnt autistic enough. you cna find videos online. go do your googles
If you don't like the way I formatted this or have suggestions let me know
@Mark Vandal This is great stuff. My family is big into building fires; we tend to do them the log cabin version, though it has its downsides - my experience has been that they need to be done correctly or else the kindeling won't get the coals burning properly. Knowing different styles is important.
@Deleted User different styles have different purposes. We can get into different survival fires sometime like fires in holes and how to build one on wetlands and snow. I always preferred teepee. It's simple, easy and quick.
Dakota fire hole
I like ⛺️ as well
I really like camping in the open air when the weather's good enough
Haha no I typed teepee and it out that emoji
Upside down fire is also pretty sexy
Good for windy conditions and for concealing light
I never get to go camping anymore. Miss it
You spend your whole life outdoors when you get to that point where you can no longer find the time it sucks
I know the feeling
At some point, we're gonna have IE bush trips
That'd be awesome
dixie was supposed to have a trip comming up but i havnt heard much of it in a few weeks
I know we are just starting out here, but I think a piece on gutting and cleaning fish would be very useful. Perhaps even one for deer?
What kind of things are y'all curious about? If you have any requests or suggestions on lessons let us know
I skin a pig every February but I've never skinned a buck. I hear it's similar. Maybe some pointers on that sort of thing?
Cover a bunch of basics. Most people don't know very much about hunting, fishing, outdoor survival etc in this day and age
True. Something as simple as tying a hook on a line could be of use
I've always wanted to try a self feeding fire
Anyone have any personal experience with one?
Never done it. While camping we would throw a big log on when we went to bed and in the morning we would get it going again with the coals. In a survival situations we would have a watch rotation to feed it. Never bothered to make that
Yeah same here. I think it's an interesting concept though
A future look into the day to day lives of white men in the ethnostate after societal collapse https://youtu.be/i9TdoO2OVaA
@Envian thanks for sharing that I watched the whole video. Very 😎
I see he used an upsidedown fire as well. I'm gonna start tinkering about with those
I love primitive technology's channel. Lots of cool stuff
👆 😂 this is so true
B-b-but whitey stole our resources an shieeet
@Deleted User Thanks, I'm still pretty new at it but its pretty easy to pick up.
@Brandon Ironside- ND Good stuff. What's the weight on your loaded MOLLE II?
I'm going to work on some campfire cooking lessons. Is that something y'all would be interested in or would that be a topic for cooking
@Mark Vandal They probably won't get to covering it over in the <#338763700750123009> channel so here seems good.
@Deleted User I just threw it on the scale weighed in at 30 pounds in summer configuration(No tent, no winter clothes, light summer sleeping bag. & no water). Your doing the Heathen Hike right? Whats your setup for that?
@Brandon Ironside- ND That's exactly the weight I shoot for, including shelter and bedroll but excluding my waterskin. I'll post my gear list here in a second.
Posted in the heathen hike channel
@Deleted User After seeing your Spyderco knife i figured you were a gear guy, your list looks really well thought out, I like the old school feel going with a waxed canvas backpack & wool gear, really nice.
Yeah brother I was 50/50 MOLLE though too. MOLLE was just coming in to the military as I was getting out and I've heard great things
@Deleted User The only potential downfall with them is the first generation black plastic frames. The guy i got mine from was in the national guard and had 3 broken black frames with his pack and after doing some research the black frames got fucked up in the molding process and are shit. The later tan and green frames you can get off ebay for 15 shipped and are bomb proof so look out for that if you get one. I remember you talking about the custom scales at the warrior dash thats super nice, almost so nice you dont want to use it haha.
Are they comfortable?
I know some infantry guys that say they hump north of 80 pounds with them. Ugh.
And that leatherwork makes mine look like child's play. I've been wanting to read more about how to form leather to stay like that, because then i would try some holsters but it looks like some expensive equipment is involved. Pretty big improvement over the ALICE in terms of better padded and placed shoulder and waist pads, and Seperate sleep carrier. The alice works pretty good and will do the job but the MOLLE packs are pretty comfortable for 65 bucks theres no comercial ruck that can compete at that price. Im guessing you used the ALICE when you were in?
Yeah we still had Alice. Not great. Here's the guy. He seems really cool and I bet he'd be willing to talk leatherwork with you
My pack weighs in right at 30 lbs as well
@Deleted User "Carefully molded using a method which was used centuries ago for making armor" My interest has been peaked, time to do some reading.
Lol it's a pretty reasonable weight if you're in decent shape
I always liked the Alice pack but the new rucksack with the built in wet weather bag always worked for me
and yeah being with the Infantry we would often have 60lb plus rucks
Alice packs do a really good job of distributing weight evenly
But I also really like the options molle gives you
@Mark Vandal Is there an easy way to tell if the potatoes are soft without having to open up the foil?
@Deleted User you can stick a fork through the foil. No harm.
I generally just unfold and inspect after 30 min.
Don't poke holes in the foil. You want it sealed tight. Just un wrap and a poke them if they aren't done re wrap it and stick it back in
I don't like cabbage. You can put anything you want in it tbh
Yeah my family always used ground beef, potatoes, cabbage, and onions
What are the best skills to start out practicing in order to get more acquainted with bushcraft? I know how to build a decent fire, but not much else. Preferably things that can be practiced in forest preserves/arboretums/public parks without going on a camping trip.
Water, shelter, food
@Gaius Mucius Scaevola knot tying, and knife sharpening are easy skills to practice at home.
@Mark Vandal iodine tabs are good in a pinch. Easy to stash in a go bag and super lightweight
@Joseph McCarthy - NJ those are a give in. Got a bunch in my bug out
But you'll run out at some point if it's long term survival
Which is where practical skills cone in handy
On the knife sharpening. Is there a particular degree that you try to maintain when sharpening. I was always told that somewhere around 33 degree angle was best. Is that true or is it just whatever feels best to you
I know you said to try to maintain the angle on the tool but I have not had much luck with that
@Deleted User There is alot to be said about knives angles that could be another guide, generally though yes for a double bevel 30-40 degrees will work fine. Here is the depths you can go into for angle info: https://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/Detailed-Discussion-on-Knife-Sharpening-Angles-W28.aspx
As far as holding a constant angle it can be tough but with practice and steady hands it's doable
I always went by 30°
sorry i havent posted much. im very preoccupied with IE stuff but i will try to post when i can
@Mark Vandal that shelter is a great concept. I saw that for the first time on dual survivor.
@Mark Vandal good video! If I may make a request- can you find one teaching people how to build a shelter out of things found in the woods? Sticks leaves etc. That way if they don't have a tarp or poncho and worse comes to worse they'll know what to do
Will do. I wish I had pictures of the one I made in the mountains it was cool as hell
Had to sleep in that thing and almost froze my ass off
Haha I love making my own. I've had some really nice ones. A few friends and I built one big enough to sleep six comfortably. It's probably even still standing. I'll have to go look
Anyone gone over land nav yet?
Not land nav anything but land nav...
Speaking of, here's a fun little trick I got to tryout recently. If you have no compass but the sun is out, put a stick in the ground and mark the tip of the shadow it casts. Wait 15 minutes or more and mark the tip again (it will have moved). Draw a straight line between the two marks. That line will point EXACTLY west to east.
From first mark to second Mark is east
Yup. Works like a charm. Tested with a compass and it was eerily accurate
I asked in tech, but is anyone @here a ham operator?
I have a beofeng but I haven't had time to sit down and practice with it in any serious sense. However I intend to have my cert by the end of the year
Don't really see a point to bug in if you have a way out for something like a hurricane. Just seems too "lone wolf-ey" to me if you don't have a good relationship with your neighborhood.
Eh. Im from Florida. Hurricanes aren't that big a deal. Bug in is a legit option unless you're close to water or it's a really fuck off storm like Andrew or Katrina
These idiots at my work talking about how all the water in the store is cleaned out. They're laughing saying they'll just buy gatoraid. Then saying survival of the fittest. They're both fat fucks for one and you can't cook food with gatoraid.
@Zyzz it means in the event of a disaster stay in your home(bug in) instead of leaving(bug out). Depending on the disaster both are legitimate options. Some people are delusional about there ability to survive with a bug out bag going to a forest and living off local game, I wouldn't recommend it,. I would suggest everybody has at least 6 months of long term food storage I'll do a post about it.
Bug in is the more legit option 9 times out of 10
@Mark Vandal Agreed, unless you a pre stocked bug out location. Living as a refugee is very diffuclt .
also it depends on the diaster things like floods are legit bug out options if other cities are up and running you can go too.
@funny about your buddies at work most people can't fathom not buying food or water in stores things like water filters never cross the average persons mind
I had to bug out last year. The big hurricane that came through Florida came right over me and I lived by the ocean. I was gonna bug in but my buddy in the guard told me it was gonna,be bad and told me to get out. I woke up at 4 am the next morning to beat traffic while the hurricane was starting coming in. Grabbed my bag and my rifle and dipped out to a location inland
My whole area,flooded so I'm glad I got out.
@joe broebbels I have a baofeng and have been studying for my license and messed around with SDR (software defined radio) for my work doing aviation engineering, what do you want to know?
I'm currently prepping for the storm down here. When I have all my stuff ready I'll post it here. Waiting for a case of MREs I got on the way
Amazon. If you're just now ordering them hurry.
Those are for my survival kit as well not just the storm. I've been putting off ordering them till now
What is "bugging out."
@Deleted User Bugging out is grabbing your gear and moving to a safer area you've already prepared
Bugging in is prepping to stay where you're already at
Ah kk ty
@Mark Vandal I keep bpa free containers around the house to drain my water lines into. Have you ever seen the huge bladders they make for your bathtub?
Talking about those black ones that you can hang outside and the sun heard it?
Uhhh I don't know. I was thinking of those huge bladders that hook up to the spigot in your bathtub for emergencies
It's the same size as a standard bathtub
No haven't seen those
I'm probably gonna stay where I'm at for this. Most likely it'll fuck up south Florida and I'm in the north. If it swings up I'm too close to the coast for comfort and I'll head inland. That's part of prepping is having a back up blan. Don't just say I'll hunker down and hope forcthe best sometimes you gotta swallow your pride and get out of dodge
Always have a backup plan for your backup plans backup plan
Watch "Weather Bureau | Metalocalypse | Adult Swim" on YouTube
Scrambles the Death Dealer
Here's a pic of my shelter @Brandon Ironside- ND what do you think?
Look at little boy Pepe
Official logo of the IE Practical Skills Ranger Channel haha.
Yeah....i may have to bug out. The eye is gonna cone right up over me
Bonkers status: Clonked
I need to start prepping just to have something to eat the week before a storm. These people cleaned out Publix like a bunch of hyperventilating baboons.
They were ripping shit out if there. People were buying the most random stuff just grabbing what they could. Nuts
My ambulance might be coming down to help out for this storm.
We surviving in style. When I get to my buddies this weekend I'll post all our gear and supplies for y'all.
Look forward to it!
All mine passed inspection expiration in 2016... Should be fine.
Anybody have experience with hydrodipping their rifles? How does it hold up?
@Deleted User I ate mre's with Skittles that went bad in 04 and even those were still good
Mre never goes bad
Not pictures fuck ton of beer and my MREs
Me and my buddies packs
Okay lads. It's time to talk outer shell for bushcraft. I've had my eye on this little number but I doubt she packs well.
Id go for surplus stuff since the army just changed pattern all the old pattern stuff should be super cheap
I like surplus gore Tex or German sympatex
Looks like Mark is doing okay since he's playing a game. Good to see it! 😄
Lol y'all can see what I'm playing? Hahaha. Power aunt out yet. Gotta conquer 3rd worlders in civ brah
@Deleted User Anything wool should work really well, one of the most time tested fabrics out there, I still use wool socks. As others have mentioned surplus USGI Goretex jackets can be had for 20-60 dollars. Either will work well.
@Mark Vandal The bar on the right side that lists people who are online will have a little part under it that lists games if your playing.
I have a little packable windbreaker/rain jacket, and have merino wool base layers as insulation, keeps everything pretty light. After i got out of the army I promised myself I'd never have a pack with over 30 pounds ever again lol.
I wool socks are great, a goretex or sympatex shell with a good liner is ideal imo
TBH, tightly knit wool is as effective a rain repellant as most rain jackets, even in heavy weather. And I can use it and still keep under th magic 30 pounds. My only grip is the space it takes up in a pack.
@Deleted User Also wool is also naturally flame resistant, wicks moisture away, and is much quieter than goretex. I think some people tend to think newer = better, however millions of years of evolution has produced wool and things like goose down, both of which are extremley effective and still used in modern products.
Any good camo made from wool?
That's the only problem I've encountered as far as that goes
This is probably the most important section of this server right now, with medic/gardening after it
It is possible that in the near future, ranger skills just might mean life or death for us
lol its nuts to me that you guys got so triggered by this ^
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