it wasnt comfortable, some of the seams started fraying (but didnt tear fully, just got caught in velcro from time to time), not exceptionally light for being as simple as it is, swiftclips had no use for me but thats my fault, shoulder straps are too close together and uncomfortable without buying additional pads

does the JPC have any of those problems?

no

I’ve been seriously considering it for next purchase

do it bro

the biggest thing holding me back is that I’m too poor to afford decent plates for the time being so I’d be the guy with a $200 plate carrier and all it has is foam inserts

if you cant afford plates dont get a carrier

that’s why I don’t have one

when i got my APC i didnt even take it out the plastic for a month until i got plates

well I do but it’s cheap as fuck

Get a chest rig then

I did

That 40rd under the armpit

40rd looking nice

it was surprisingly unobtrusive till i started running a radio there

Yall use dump pouches?

yea

It’s really nice to have

most of the use i get out of mine is loading it up with beers

and holding onto trash

Its nice to have to just throw shit in

it’s something that you feel like you don’t need but can’t live without after you get it imo

I kinda wana make one outa a denim pant leg

for me it’s shotgun shells

If i can make it look not like shit that is

so nice for those

@fjogert yknow as much a meme they can be known to be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgFsHJ53sLE&t=364s

🤔

I’m not gonna cheap out on potentially lifesaving gear

yes the chinese are known for making consistent quality PPE

I’ll just die because I didn’t buy anything

Fair, but they could be place holders

I aint got much goin on after work n its rainy so well see how a pantleg dump pouch looks

dont buy trash just to fill the hole

why spend money on a placeholder when you could save money and get what you actually want

^

yeah that’s the plan

Im glad a held out n found a good ak placard

Who knows, I got a 3 back when I knew nothing about armor a few years ago

yeah bro dont feel bad about slow rolling it, its better to have nothing but plans to get something than to get dookie

you probably won't use the features of the 2.0 and it's considerably more expensive

plus to my understanding cover is more important than plates in combat

although

I’m one of the few people who actually has use for plates considering one of my boog buddies is a combat medic

JPC 2.0 is like $50 more

add in a front flap

unless you're just gonna use a rig

Yeah but I got a chest rig

ok

nvm then

@fjogert >tucked boots

c

normally I don’t but I wanted to look nice for u guys \<3

every nigga who blouses BDUs think they look like this guy

kek I love that pic

nah I don’t have any boot blousing shit

in reality they look like this

I basically just rested the fabric on the inside of the boot for the pic

Blousing your boots should only really be done if your enviroment requires it

thank u for saving my pic bby

i scrolled up and copied it

what environments require blousing?

also iron your shit if you're gonna try to look nice smh

anything with ticks

Anywhere with thick brush aswell

that was my “post gear” photo

just threw it together

So genuine question about laser cuts, are they just a fad within the tacticool community or have a advantage?

but g3s have these neat velcro straps at the ankle that you can tighten down p nice

@A S half and half. same concept as mlok, it's reductive rather than additive but serves the same purpose

in theory it can be stronger

Also if you plan to lay down for awhile blouse your shit

jungle combats have netting at the bottom to tuck into your boot while the outer layer goes over

now that sounds nice

Theres only room for ONE snake in my pants

you know the only pants ive ever had otherwise that did that were gorka-R pants

So much like the Low vis carriers, just with a webbing option?

yeah i guess

you are talking about something more specific though

shit pic but netting

very nice

Think my local surplus store is gonna knock down their ESAPIs

remember to tap & torque

$250 for a pair?

not a bad deal

cop me one in medium

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31dO_Xyj5ik

please do not buy surplus armor without watching this in entirety

I've seen it

I watched it infront of them, as they've never dealt with the plates before

good on you if you helped them out

They have a large plate thats definetely fucked, moldy almost. Besides that at least 6 pairs of good

No milsurp shop has.

Yeah but then their grabbler noses grew and I saw an extra 0 get added to the price tag

figured

keep your cards close to you at all time

Apparently one of the workers schizo friends just came by one day and dropped off a ton of current carriers and plates

& get me an unfucked medium

Whats the absolute maximum reasonable price

Wouldn't it be best just to buy new plates rather than surplus?

Lot of problems i can think of with surplus

which would you rather have stop a bullet for you

250 tbh

For a set

@A S Yes. But if you know what you're looking at you can get good plates for cheap.

They're not really worth it otherwise because the backers

Whats the better option

dinner plates

if you get me a medium esapi and dont jew me i'll be at least 14% nicer to you

Just called the guy

$200 per plate

'theyre right off the production line'

yikes

Old man didn't recognize my voice since I always talk to the son, ill go in and see what the real deal is

i just told you to keep your cards close to you and you just went and revealed your price

Since, I was the one who fucking tested every plate they got for them

cmon now

I am no usurer

i mean fair

im not gonna look a gift glowworm in the mouth yknow

yeah thats where the hook goes

moderate yeet

So if I can somehow get it down to $150 a plate, it'd be a good purchase?

I buy a lot from them and know the guys and owner on a somewhat personal level

id say so yeah

If I bought in quantities higher than a set he'd probably give a discount

they'd have to be fairly minty for that much tho

and while a frayed/slightly torn cover isnt a dealbreaker and can be mended with ease, it should affect how good of shape you consider them to be in

As long as they haven't sold any, which theres no way the business has no advertising, then they've still got at least one primo pair

The first one I handled still had brightness to the fabric

they're green covers im guessing right

mhm

I think I posted a pic in here of the batch/production info

None of the serials were even attempted to be removed

🤔

typical

its surp 🤷

$150 a plate is an eh

plates arrive tomorrow

<:meguface:559943799179313154>

@CTL whats a better vendor?

getting lucky on ebay

😔

I keep hearing Hesco

its not fair bro

$300 a set still requires almost $250 in soft armor

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Medium-ESAPI-Strike-Face-Insert-Protection-Plates-12-5-x-10/303309752343?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item469eab8817:g:RcMAAOSwk0tdUd~M&enc=AQAEAAACQBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qVFtYgAs46y4I55JiM5OsDUIs2c8oKMaF7T6L2f4kq686vPt%2Bul%2Bm1Eui4wToXbJI9GwP9szsnxBQXwYjnI2HdJM9yj1%2FTa7fosygCf8Kd717NCB03rPD%2FeX2ctMiPLGQ4179u4AMevyOtqdkQWesivk6gpOlyS8VSLDQRqab7BPB9PuCfs7qG6E8TXviDIqvbPFzAxARPjTTkdFZ6kmSqW4cZs8Gm9i7IK90pdjnsq1bQp4b2LiHYRtxnRYTI%2FzgSIxkGCxTeLhIZjZThgCCQ%2FCH670YOsndYd%2FurHw6BvdrdT%2Frzy58CK%2Bqm4hKJv6hytEURWo%2B33JC5JqEcrXfSQnFdrbjQL44tdyG9ME%2Fhs%2FVH%2B4MJDWUTXwFS7iQcxu%2BTP81LKU3LWPqtT4kL5GIwrhlstx%2BelDaHTigZWp8%2BXk0cMBhLYl0aC5Evi7GycA7q7frJ5fuX%2B82JfYr5kovohVPvsiafSZ8202Lv1PTe88G%2F86B3J2Fdx9cLDLfHzzrcmseuDGucMxLL%2FLSvsjmSC7iMeBfuzX5cOSV42ulVhs6t2CtNxgl1LmAhfWGWTiMZ8bKt9e1p5AQsTQ%2FFnoZxXVRP9G%2Bz62YruIVXxL2L7T%2B2h%2BjFFhtJOXkjz24RlZ%2BUqy3v6tFZ8X5Hyy4dLcXg8Uw35uLmvX8M26HWVTJl1m8k7k0rKGUxYNwX%2B8CvMRE8SMR1GfiSmo0uPelElYpiCMcCN80n0ePdv0Y%2BCQA4a3w%3D%3D&checksum=30330975234396ebe7abc1e44c048d7e6d1c68c8b776&enc=AQAEAAACQBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qVFtYgAs46y4I55JiM5OsDUIs2c8oKMaF7T6L2f4kq686vPt%2Bul%2Bm1Eui4wToXbJI9GwP9szsnxBQXwYjnI2HdJM9yj1%2FTa7fosygCf8Kd717NCB03rPD%2FeX2ctMiPLGQ4179u4AMevyOtqdkQWesivk6gpOlyS8VSLDQRqab7BPB9PuCfs7qG6E8TXviDIqvbPFzAxARPjTTkdFZ6kmSqW4cZs8Gm9i7IK90pdjnsq1bQp4b2LiHYRtxnRYTI%2FzgSIxkGCxTeLhIZjZThgCCQ%2FCH670YOsndYd%2FurHw6BvdrdT%2Frzy58CK%2Bqm4hKJv6hytEURWo%2B33JC5JqEcrXfSQnFdrbjQL44tdyG9ME%2Fhs%2FVH%2B4MJDWUTXwFS7iQcxu%2BTP81LKU3LWPqtT4kL5GIwrhlstx%2BelDaHTigZWp8%2BXk0cMBhLYl0aC5Evi7GycA7q7frJ5fuX%2B82JfYr5kovohVPvsiafSZ8202Lv1PTe88G%2F86B3J2Fdx9cLDLfHzzrcmseuDGucMxLL%2FLSvsjmSC7iMeBfuzX5cOSV42ulVhs6t2CtNxgl1LmAhfWGWTiMZ8bKt9e1p5AQsTQ%2FFnoZxXVRP9G%2Bz62YruIVXxL2L7T%2B2h%2BjFFhtJOXkjz24RlZ%2BUqy3v6tFZ8X5Hyy4dLcXg8Uw35uLmvX8M26HWVTJl1m8k7k0rKGUxYNwX%2B8CvMRE8SMR1GfiSmo0uPelElYpiCMcCN80n0ePdv0Y%2BCQA4a3w%3D%3D&checksum=30330975234396ebe7abc1e44c048d7e6d1c68c8b776

Can you get refuned on ebay for plates that are cracked?

holy shit

that link

Bro thats $100 more

Because of their policies

yeah hence "getting lucky"

@Infini hit or miss

i got 'issued' a refund for a pair of delaminated SAPIs

it has yet to clear my pp account

guess tap n torque test never miss huh

and im afraid to call pp or ebay because of their armor policy

Yeah same

My back sapi has a small crack but I didnt wanna risk contacting them

What is their armor policy?

no armor

oh

🤔🤔🤔

yeah that sucks

I thought it was up to level 3

or yeah

something like that

gotta level up your fence vendor to get access to IVs

just say it's level 3 unless the seller wants to screw both parties over

still hasnt fucking cleared

I thought it was 3A

like he sent me the money

he sent me screenshots of him refunding it

and i received it

it just hasnt entered my balance for some unknown reason

if its like paypal they can just fuck you out of the money

Could also be paypal

if it violates terms of service

but my account hasnt been frozen or anything, ive used it past this plenty of times

https://store.atarmor.com/Hesco_4400_Level_IV_SAPI_Cut_Stand_Alone_Plate_p/hs-4400-sapi.htm

What wrong with these?

heavy and singlecurve

nothing

other than that nothing

oh shit 8 lbs

great threat profile

good manufacturer

if you're going with super heavy though i'd look into highcom 4s17ms, they come in sapi sizing and multicurve for a similar threat profile and weight

the next step up is $800 for a set

the 4600s

I think bulletproofme had some standalone level IV multicurves at a similar price point

the 4s17s are slightly heavier so 🤷🏿

for more

imo multicurve is worth it

having had 4400s and worn a pc with 4s17ms

4400s in SAPI is MC

oh word?

i thought they still made em single only

nvm

4400 shooters isn't

Sapi is more though

point being sapi/multi is worth it over 10x12/single

yeah but sapi sizing is more accepted and by default multicurve

tbf their 10x12 is basically just sapi medium

10x12 is 'nominal' which makes no fucking sense

"this measurement in inches isnt actually the measurement in inches"
thanks

https://www.americanblastsystems.com/product-page/nij-level-iv-stand-alone-4-5-lbs-ballistic-plate

Still single curve, and most likely not NIJ certified with how shady they are with their wording

or lack thereof

@Infini totally forgot about bulletproofme, yeah their level IV is p light for the price

@CTL can you post CAG fishing forearms

Uh

Which one

cag fortnite arms

your favorite

as long as it solidly displays cag forearms and how they achieve them

4600s in SAPI are $910 a set

sapi medium anyway

but 13 lbs for a set so

can you fucking imagine

you guys like my meme

OC

no

says the same thing 3 times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmIBbZCyBFg

damn check out this CAG fisherman

CARP ANGLERS GROUP

they fish the mississippi river DELTA

damn cag fishing pics are pretty rare

me and the boys on the way to the boat ramp

those ballistic masks be lookin kinda fresh doe

what

:0)

oh

i see

you are mother fucker

good by mather chod

komm susser todd

It all comes tumbling down

🇮🇱