He was pretty messed up tried flushing it out he was making it worse by panicking he was the guy in the blue shirt with the black sun American flag

We got him out though

Any in eyes or airway?

@Erika did you treat a guy in white pants

@everyone if you are going to be part of a medic team at an event and need supplies, have someone (in leadership) who can confirm you will be there PM me, you also PM me, and I will get you most everything you need.

*wew*

Nice stash

Wow

right wing medic squads

I think we learned from Cville that you can't have enough gauze rolls

But wait, there's more.

@Erika Your team was johnny-on-the-spot Saturday. I've wanted to commend you all for how effective and QRF you guys were. Just haven't really had the chance until now

ITS BEAUTIFUL

@Phillip Wiglesworth - FL thank you. It was tough, but I think we were all happy to be there to help everyone who were in need

You guys were so busy and didn't want to bother you.

Yeah thanks again

I'm pretty certain I've got a minor case of plantar fasciitis. Anything I can do to quickly get back to running?

@Louis Loire - NY @Deleted User ☝🏻

Quickly? Depends how bad

Freeze water bottle and roll on bottom of foot

Get.some nsaids to take with food

Get brace over the counter to sleep in to keep foot dorsiflexed

And stretch w a towel looped around bottom of feet

Of the affected.foot rather

Heel inserts help a bunch as well

What are nsiads?

Is there anything I can do to strengthen my foot and keep running without making it worse?

non steroid anti inflamatory drugs. Tylenol.

I had Plant Fasciatis. One method is to find a cool stream or lake with a smushy gravel bottom, and wade around in it.

Do a full butt-stretch. Then a hamstring stretch. Then calf stetch---In that order. Jumping ahead to the calf stretch is not advisable, because the tendons in your toes connect all the way up the back of your body, and you need to stretch the big muscles first.

Another method to deal with plantar fasciatis is to get some heavy wool socks. Coat them with duct tape, to make an improvised moccasin. Then walk around on pea gravel. Like with the stream-bed technique, what your are doing is breaking up the scar tissue on your foot tendons. You should also ice the feet, elevate them, and take ibuprofen. Before doing more of the pea-gravel walking.

With my case, I saw a foot doctor (podiatrist). He taught me how to tape my feet, and ordered VERY expensive shoe inserts. The 500 dollar inserts are just barely better (for my case) than are Spenco Total Support insoles. https://www.amazon.com/Spenco-Total-Support-Insoles-Womens/dp/B008CJNTI6?th=1

Should I lessen my running. It doesn't seem that bad. I think I just moved away from heel striking too quickly.

Tylenol is not an nsaid

Per wiki, aspirin, ibuprofen and naproxen, are all NSAIDs. But Acetaminophen is generally not considered an NSAID because it has only little anti-inflammatory activity. So that's why I was wrong to reflexivly say Tylenol. But I have found you do not want or any other form of tendonitis to set in, because once it does it becomes a chronic condition that is three times as hard to be rid of. After sometimes keeping me awake at night, mine took years to finally clear up. Early medical intervention is the best approach.

Ibuprofen, naproxen, aleve

Doc: your are correct.

Stawberry you do need.to back.off the running

If you keep running on it, it will get worse

You can get severe chronic pain from this if you keep pushing through

Unless you're training for something career critical take a break, do some swimming or something

If you're not doing significantly better after a week or so can consider some oral steroids for stronger anti inflammatory effect

Ice, nsaid, rest most important

I haven't been running at all is the thing

I was just about to get really into it

I just learned how to run correctly recently

Last big thing I did were the marches in Cville

I figured I just did too much too quickly

Yes, I pointed that out on myself already. But the stretching and walking in pea gravel are remedies I know can work.

I also recommended early genuine medical intervention. The pain from it can wake you up at night. It took years for all my tendonitis-type symptoms to diminsh. If you ever get what feels like a sore muscle that never goes away, get to a doctor. Use Ibuprofen, stretching, massage, and Ice. And steriods.

I took some ibuprofen and iced my foot. It only started to hurt after standing up at work all day and when I first woke up on the back of my heels for a minute

Ah, if that mild should be easy fix. Try frozen water bottle trick to massage and ice at same time

If it goes away in a week or two could I do some light running?

Tendons take twice as long to heal as muscles. You'd be wise to wait 4 weeks to go running. That's why you have a bicycle and a place to swim, right?

Another trick is ro roll a ball on the floor under your foot when sitting down. A tennis ball works well.

This type of thing can turn chronic if not careful. Baby it a bit for a month, do lower impact things like Chuck saying, then start back gently.

I feel like all I've done are low impact things. I'm lucky enough my grandparents have a pool but I find it disappointing that the moment start making plans to run this happens

Work on your upper body with weights. Maybe lower body 10 days. If this turns permanent (like almost happened to me) it will cause you years of misery and sleepless nights.

I've got RLS so sleepless nights are the norm. How long should I take to work my way down to using minimalist shoes so this doesn't happen again?

some would say that shoes are the problem, and that barefooting is best. Some claim FiveFingers shoes are bad, some say they are good. For now, I'd recommend getting those Spenco Inserts inside normal shoes, and getting lots of massage, stretching, IBU, ice, and rest. Then try the duct-tape sock mocassins on pea gravel. This can take months or years to heal. Buy a better bicycle.

What is pea gravel? I'm not really looking at months to fix this am I? Like one day of walking around Cville couldn't have ruined my tendon?

Pea gravel is rounded small gravel. It is found in some driveways. It is not the crushed gravel you usually see, and it moves around and never really forms a solid surface.

I injured my shoulder once in a rodeo. I did not listen to my doctor, and took off the brace and started catching baseballs before I should have. By not following my doctor's orders, the injury went on a long time. Go see a doctor, and I think he'd agree that a month off is what you need.

I've heard since it was an unusual amount of stress that I don't normally have it may heal quickly

I'm fine with taking a month easy

But if this last years I may as well just give up entirely

A month of swimming or bicyclling, and upper-body lift is not giving up. I bet you're a long-distance fag, and like most of those you need the upper body workout anyway.

I used to be a runner, too. Sorry if I my specualtions were wrong or insulting, it was meant to be funny.

My best Two-Mile run was 11:02. I'm still pretty pround of it.

Proud, I meant.

I'm trying to get into long distance and free running

And I never even got to run in my transitional shoes and my foot is already messed up

Some blame shoes for mankind's physical problems. I can't stand barefooting, personally. After 14 days of rest, you might try hiking. And you should look into the arcane theory of "grounding." -Which involves hiking in mocassins. SEE wwwDot.moccasinscanada.com/mens/moccasin-boots/earthing-cork-moosehide

Is hiking really the best option since that's pretty much the cause of this?

I've always felt unnatural in big shoes but my mother always forced me to wear them.

Good question. I like hiking, and never had the same problems from that as running. "Earthing" with moccasins gets your foot bones and muscles a little work-out.

I'd be up for something like that once it doesn't hurt to walk anymore. Unfortunately I can't get out of my long work shifts

My podiatrist taught me how to tape my feet, and ordered 500 dollar inserts. I'd suggett Spenco Total Support insoles, which are less than 30 bucks: https://www.amazon.com/Spenco-Total-Support-Insoles-Womens/dp/B008CJNTI6?th=1

@StrawberryArmada Night splints worked wonders for my plantar fasciitis. I only had to wear them a few nights and it was gone, after weeks of pain.

Do you know where I can get one?

Walgreens or cvs

Walmart

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000WZYXL0/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B000WZYXL0&linkCode=as2&tag=plantfascires-20

This is one I like the best. Got at Walgreens

Anyone online?

What's up brother?

I got a swollen bee sting. Should I just wait it out, or do something about it?

Not particularly painful, but annoying to walk with because it's on my foot

How bad is the swelling? I assume you're not allergic

@Helbrecht - WA The side of my foot has noticeably grown, though I can still put shoes on.

Not allergic

Benadryl would be best. It'll slow down and stop anything that could be going on. And if you know where exactly the bee sting is a baking soda and water paste on it will draw out the bees venom which will help a lot too

As long as your whole foot isn't swelling up and you're not having other symptoms it's nothing to be too worried about 😃

@Helbrecht - WA Thank you

No problem!

Aye and ice and elevation can't hurt either

@Deleted User Thank you too

All of the above is great

@everyone who will be going to an event any time soon? I'm going to be making small kits for the medics in the crowd, and an ambulance bag for the triage point/medic truck. For the higher ups, I think this would be the best way to coordinate the medic teams. C-ville was kind of a cluster-f for us, and I think we should focus on getting structured. This includes comms, universal kit setups, a point that all elements (security, etc.) Know where to take someone for medical care.

Great idea, Joe. I know we'd be interested in those kits.