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If anyone wants to see something specific let me know. I have a ton of jobs going, and I can probably pick up some more weekend work to get little walk throughs on new builds and remodeling.
Doing some boring ass stair treads on my rental today
haha get some Conway and you'll have a blast!
I just caught up on Jim goads podcasts
This is truly a shit job. Just slap it on and go as quick as I can no jig or anything
I have to have something to take my mind off the boring stuff. Are you putting carpet on them?
Nah just basic treads and risers. They had carpet and the treads were just 2x material. It's a duplex we just got
I did oak in 2 units but these are just gonna be 5/4 pine. Cheap and easy
haha nice. I love the natural/stained wood look. I don't care for painted trim or stairs. But I get why people do it.
Are you changing the flooring?
Nope just adding tile in afew places
Damn bro you're having fun.
You get what you pay for, here's why you don't call a handyman.
Bondo is NOT made to fill wood.
They wrapped the window in metal and plywood and it turned into a water trap.
That's awful bro
It's a mess, not sure I can save the brick molding, the sills I can save.
I'll get some pictures of this process, because we'll be installing a new frame. And if you can handle doing a historic window a replacement window will be a walk in the park.
Also don't let ivy grow on your house, it destroys the mortar, and wood. It costs more to have a house tuck pointed and/or new windows, brick moldind, doors, corbels, soffit, everything, then it is to rip that junk off the house. I know it looks neat/nice, but be good to your home and it will be good to you.
Dang yeah that's a shit show. A lot of work
That it is, but that's what I signed up for ahah.
What's the carpentry (finish too) field looking like these days? Is it impacted? I work as a museum crate technician and want to transfer over. Any tips?
Things are going good, busy all around. I work in historic preservation and we do finish. Low skilled guys and immigrants have driven already low wages down. But if you're working for someone honest or yourself you can do pretty good.
If you're starting fresh try a little bit of everything until you find what you like. I really enjoy framing, but I found this historic work and I fell in love.
Honest white guys that do half way decent work and show up on time can make a killing in today's market. Problem is so many of the trade guys don't have their shit together
All the technical/artisan stuff is still white guys for the most part
Yeah I know more than a few trades guys. They struggle with drugs, alcohol, and minor criminal stuff. Good men all, though, and good at what they do.
Yeah the drugs and alcohol shit is so pervasive for dudes in the building trades.
I try to only hire white guys but it can be a challenge
Step 1: Don't do drugs
Step 2: Do almost anything else
Easy as that
Eh, not so easy for some guys I know. They struggle with chronic pain and working the hours they do is hard on them. I can sympathize.
Yeah, me too, but I work 80 hour weeks around 3 months out of the year. I understand the chronic pain thing, too. I'm 6'3", so my back is falling apart already. But I've never done coke, meth, bars, perks, or any of the other shit that people try to sell me.
I feel for these guys, but they've got to get their shit together themselves. No one else can do it.
I used to do a lot of drugs and booze. Haven't touched a drop of anything in 7 yrs. much better
BTW for those goys out there with HVAC systems always use these cheap filters. Cheapest you can find cause they don't restrict the air flow for your handler. Unless you got allergies
Otherwise all the techy filters just pay schlomo
I have allergies. What is the best filter for me?
I've beat the shit out of my body broken fingers, toes, arms, legs, cracked ribs, more stitches than I can remember, I've ridden ladders down telephone poles and walls, rode a few to the ground, I've 2 hernias repaired, and I've been shocked by power lines while 30 feet in the air. But you rub some dirt on it and carry on. Like a man. Haha
I've worked 6 days a week for years. I smoked pot for almost 15 years, it didn't help with the pain, it just took my mind off it.
@Bayernmensch#6240 is the air in your house a problem? If so maybe one of the hyperallegenic one but usually that's for people with abnormal allergies.
I have em too but not bad enough I need to filter the air
@Deleted User You're the man. Did owning more than 1 property turn you into a jack of all trades?
Haha no I got my start doing trim carpentry on small scale remodels working for a good contractor
Did it for years then got a (((media))) job which looked better to banks
Made some smart purchases that cash flowed very well early on
Oh nice, what is that you do now? If I can support a brother I will.
How much do finish carpenters make? I get that it's based upon location. As a crate technician in LA I make $20/hr...
Carpenters are the one of lowest paid trades unfortunately. But if you're the contractor you have no limit. Or you could get on with a big company and do well.
Like the electricians said the end goal is to become the contractor.
Yeah I thinking of getting my contractors license
I got mine but hardly use it.
@RevStench Now I'm a director for a yuuuge media company. Total fuckin pox all day long
Trim carpenters/artisans can make decent money but yeah they don't make as much as elec, plumbers, etc unless your doing work like @RevStench
Your type of restorations are priceeeey .....
For sure, but it's either me or you can call this guy
Hahaha no joke
That's plywood holding the sash together haha
@Pendragon#1229 If you can run small jobs as a contractor and hire subs and do all the carpentry yourself you can make more than just running trim but it's more headaches. I did that for a few years
@Pendragon#1229 You in LA? I built sets for a few years too a looong time ago. That pays decent
Oh cool @Deleted User I bet that was a lot of fun and headache. Got any set you can brag about?
It's a shame carpenters get stiffed on moneybecause there are so many neat things to do.
@RevStench It was NY in the 90s sonit was fun. The only noteworthy set was probably upright citizens brigade on comedy central
No way, I love UCB. Little Donnie is my favorite
I was just a helper basically. And I put together a ton of flats and stages. Then moved back down here and started working with that contractor
Haha little donny
I helped build the inner sanctum set
Carpentry is one of the most underrated and underused professions
That's really cool man, what neat place to get a start in building.
It's a shame that carpentry has become what it is. I've seen articles over in the Netherlands where they are building multi story buildings with wooden frames again. That's really cool.
Morgan cars still use a wooden frame, that would be a dream job.
Wow that's nuts
That's pretty cool. I wish there was a market for homes like this. I could do this type of work for pleasure.
This guy has making shakes down to a science. I've pretty much memorized his technique, it's good information.
Think it was on PBS years ago but it's on YouTube. Ex navy pilot moved to the Alaskan wilderness and built everything by hand. Amazing he filmed all of it on 16mm
No I haven't, I'll look it up.
People show me video's like that house all the time, I appreciate it. But most of the these people say they do things the old ways then I watch and I only see where they skipped the old hard ways for modern things. Like that house they used rebar. No one used rebar for foundations. They also ran the trees through a saw.
Hand hewed logs,
Floor joist for this place built in the 1850s
My family house in New York had hand hewn logs. It was one of the first houses in the area. I used to daydream about what it was like to walk to the middle of nowhere all alone, chop down a few trees, and start building yourself a new life.
I do that same day dreaming almost everyday. Or what it was like when a new town was being built. I go to a lot of small towns, ones with one 4 way stop being the town center. Life was harder but in my opinion better in the good ol'days.
@Joseph McCarthy - NJ Just watched that video. Gods. White people are fucking awesome.
There's several parts to this. It'll put you to sleep but it's pretty amazing what this guy did. Killed all his own food but cabin and smoke house by hand
I hope it's related but has anyone made fasces for decoration?
No sir, you make one and show us haha. For real though
There's some really cool buildings being made out of wood again.
Supposedly LVLs and CLTs can be stronger that concrete and rebar in earthquake prone areas
Lvl is some good stuff, I used to use it for building pole barns, I've loads of barns for some of the big horse farms in KY. LVL is so heavy though, kicks my little ass.
So much cool stuff happening with timber.
@Deleted User haha thanks for posting that. I'm fixing a door and can usually find a way to get out stripped screws. Totally forgot about these
Working on a folding metal basics for today. I'm wrapping up a few jobs right now and don't have a lot of actual work, just breaking down scaffolding and doing some really minor finishing touches.
Thanks brother. I do my best.
I liked the spinal tap reference😄
haha I figure that these things are boring so it needed to be a little fun to read
These we're turned into leaded glass sometime in the 1850s, pretty sweet. Hamline Chapel, Lawrenceburg, IN
I restored one of these. I don't have any pictures of the sash I did. But it's the first one on the right when you go through the front door, if anyone is interested haha.
Sorry I haven't been active here. We don't really have anything fun right now, I'm busy but everything big wrapped up and we picked up a job restoring more than 40 sets of windows. So that is going to take some time. I've been breaking down windows and stripping paint for the last week.
@RevStench hey I got a decent drywall patch lesson/pics ready to go should I post here? A lot of people need to patch holes etc and it’s super easy but they don’t know how. Not carpentry but still helpful building skill
Drywall work is a pain!
It's dirty, too. I'm pretty happy I picked electrical, it's the easiest on your body.
Till you get lit up you mean
That stuff hurts
@Deleted User yeah bro, go ahead. I'll figure out how to move it into lessons after you finish.
Thanks. That's good stuff to know how to do.
Ok everybody. Patching some drywall with the “hot patch” method. This is only one way to do it but you don’t have to buy those kits and works just as good if you’ve got a scrap piece of drywall laying around:
That’s the hole we wanna patch. You’ll need these tools plus some drywall and mud
Measure the size of the hole. In this case it’s approx 3.5” the size of a coffe top
Outline around the size of the hole about an inch in every direction
Then cut out the bigger outline
Flip the piece over and draw your true patch size on The backside
Then cut out everything on that line. You can make straight cuts like so and fold then peel away the sheet rock leaving the paper
Then peel off the excess by going all the way around.
Should end up looking like this
Now use that piece to plug the hole but BEFORE YOU DO put fresh mud around the outside of the hole on the wall so the paper has something to stick to. (Don’t have photos of the mud) I
Make sure there is mud underneath the paper
Then you take a drywall knife and spread it out
Put mud over the entire patch if it is small enough
Make sure you have a nice ever coat
Let dry and knock the ridges down with a drywall knife. You may have to do a second coat, repeat the knife to knock down ridges, then sand and your done
Now thats a thinking mans solution!!
@RevStench cool man thanks, I forgot to take pics of the mud going on before the patch but you get the idea.
Built my own bed. I used a 5" thick high density upholstery foam for a mattress because I like firm and it's the best for your body. Mattresses are a shlomo scam, you can literally sleep fine on a yoga mat after your body adjusts after a few nights. Total cost of this was $450
Nice! That was a hell of an idea
Thanks. Also, no squeaking 😃
Low profile lovin'
Thats a solid baby making platform
@⚡Clark⚡ looks nice bro, but you really should have used mortis and tenon joints, or some other joinery, for the strength. Over time those screws are going to waller out and not hold, they'll start to back out. That's the number reason the Japs don't use fasteners.
Sorry if I sound like a dick.
They also make some sweet motion activated lighting for under the bed.
@RevStench I bet your right. With my limited skill in carpentry this is what I came up with. That motion activated lighting sounds sweet
@RevStench if you used a couple of angle brackets let's say 3 in by 2 in. Would that help with the screws loosening. One that size usually has three screws on either side and you could go from the side board to the leg?
Put one on either side of the leg
@John O - motion activated lol that would be hilarious. be in the bed bouncing around with the wife and the lights going off and on
@Deleted User @CJames - TN#6244 both would work.
@⚡Clark⚡ You need something to stiffen up the corners.
Next time you build something with 2x 6, 8, 10 or bigger. Check the timber for a cup or a bow. Even straight boards can be crooked.
A board with a cup will have a U in it.
A board with a bow will have a noticeable sag in it.
A crook board could look straight but have a twist.
Stay away from knotty wood that's NOT pine. All this timber we buy from the big stores and most lumber yards is fast grown, and the wood is softer and full of sap(sugar) which will attract bugs. Inside you're usually fine.
Here's that light
Did you see how cheap those lights are? Like 40 bucks.
So the hysterical society won't let us replace this wood, yet, it's not rotten enough. So I've had to rebuild it out of epox. So shitty. But here's an option if you need some quick wood repair.
That transcend windows look fantastic
Perfect mitered corners on that glazing.
I'm starting to get a Rush Limbaugh ego 😂
They torment these people who own historic homes. The homes cost a fortune to keep up as they are. The historic society has people who patrol neighborhoods and give fines to people who change the look of the home. If they find out you remodeled the inside, they make you change it back. If there are old pictures of the home it has to stay that way. You can't change the colors, nothing. If there is one hand rail and you want two, but there's a picture of only one, that's all you get. Assholes
Baltimore has some areas like that
I appreciate what they do but they get a little silly with some policing.
Hysterical Societies sort of black pill me. It just makes me feel like we're in decline. A civilization on the rise doesn't have time for that sort of stuff.
Got a paint tip. If you have some paint sitting around and it's gotten really thick and you're getting brush marks that won't go away. You can revive it with Penetrol for oil based and Floetrol for latex. Add a little at a time until the paint flows evenly, when you apply the paint the brush marks should go away after 3 or 4 minutes. Don't add to much.
👍🏻good to know
I actually really like painting. Just don’t like set up and tear down
@Deleted User here's the windows after I used penetrol in the year old paint
That paint is dry. You can see my paint brush in the first picture
So here's a sweet old tool no one uses anymore. A gimlet. Used to make a threaded hole to help start screws.
@RevStench yeah man those are beautiful! That’s a lot of skilled work. Shit I need a gimbal- I usually just a drill bit to start screw holes
Dude the gimlet is a game changer.
Usually I'm doing everything one handed and this just made getting a screw started so easy, no fighting the screw to stay on the bit when I'm trying to screw it in.
Yeah those are really great
@RevStench cant tell how many metal shards I’ve had from holding shitty screws to get the started
For sure, I use a lot of 3/4in number 1 or 0 screws, square head. They dance around so much and I fight them every single time. But not anymore with a gimlet.
Favorite carpentry channels on YT? https://www.youtube.com/user/PaulSellersWoodwork/playlists
Paul Sellers uses _all_ hand tools. It's very comfy
Here's something cool. This window's bottom sash is bigger than the top, and to get proper ventilation you have to get the top sash out of the way, the top sash disappears into the wall. This one goes up, some drop down into the wall. It's hard to see.
Early 1900s plane I use
The Ecuadorians apparently use a clear hose filled with water
Works no matter how far apart the two ends of the hose are.
Oh neat. I guess they can't figure it out how to square a block 😆
I guess you could use a lot of different things.
@Deleted User I was trying to figure out how you would plane a piece of wood with a hose
I get it, a level
Well I think they use it for cutting their structural timbers, 4x4s, etc
The new baby is pushing me out of my office, so I was thinking about building a new one using the shell of a car port the old owner used for his RV. What’s a good resource (books, etc) that I could use, for a beginner? Also, does this seem like a doable project?
I don’t mean using the whole thing, but maybe building two rooms in it.
Yes sir, you can do that. When I get home today, I'll get together what I can to try and help you.
So I don't know your skill level, so here's a good start. You're going to have to pour a floor, or you could build it out of wood. It would be similar to hanging the floor of a deck. You can insulate under it.
You need to check the building code in your state.
This will give you an idea of what needs to be done, depending on the share of the existing structure.
With the size of it you could build two rooms in the back and still pull your car into it.
Framing the walls be easy, you can add some studs stick them against the purlings, insulate the wall and drywall.
Putting a ceiling on is cake too. This whole project is time consuming if you're doing it alone.
If you want exterior windows you'll have to frame them in, basically doubling the 2x's and adding support footers and headers.
You can keep a metal roof, that blow in insulation is good stuff, you could do something like 13inches on top of the ceiling.
If you want, basically 2 boxes with a doorway in between the rooms and an entrance way. Should be easy enough. You'll have to get the Electricians to help wire it.
Awesome, thanks for the info. It’s already got electricity, just need to make sure it’s up to code. Water too, and a small septic tank out back where he emptied his RV.
Oh cool, you'll have to run outlets and switches, lighting.
Greg can help some with plumbing.
I'm currently working on restoring these right now. I finished and reinstalled the two bottom right casements.
Those two are mine
These should be next but theres an 18 foot triple hung with the check rails falling out that's next.
@RevStench bro, that's beautiful. I know you didn't do the glass work, but that's really cool you get to do restorations like that
Thanks bro, saving OUR history one window at a time!😂
Excellent project! Thanks for sharing the photos.
@Deleted User thanks bro. It really means a lot.
So I puller this one today, 18 1/2 foot tall triple hung, 20 lite. Massive.
Look at the bow in this check rail.
That's going to take a long time to glaze that big boy haha