@everyone TOVARISCHI

hii

how are my fellow European citizen doing

@Polsza ban for pinging bye bye

thats why I mute the everyone command

*In varietate concordia*

Kill whitey....

t. mexican

@rogalik gimme fast bm pls

fast bm hmm

Ziggurat?

it's new tho

we actually have a guy that was on some vocals in one song Ritual Miasma

and now is apparently their bassist 😮

oh that reminds me I was supposed to be part of a solo project( Ig uess that would've made it a duo project) but forget to actually send the drums to the guy

kek

his stuff was sick tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7ZhG-u2vHs

tbh some people complain about "too fast" drums in Ziggurat but I like it

I like fast drums and riffs

most of the second wave was fast

it was one of the deviations from the original bm

of course modern technical dm became way faster anyway but still

I am not sure if I like technical dm

there is stuff like braindrill which is just a mess

but i do like nile a lot

uhh no I generally don't like dm

I just said that it's even faster because

originally it was bm's trait

yea I get that

but nowadays bm isn't really faster than fast dm

what do you think of messhuggah?

I don't like most of death metal, tempo breakdowns all the time, tons of randumb riffs, no atmosphere, no structure, no melody 🤷

messhuggah I'd have to listen to it again cuz I don't really remember clearly t b h

try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn6X0s-dbbA

I think it has a good deal of atmosphere

yeah I know Nile

Nile, Cryptopsy and I think Messhuggah too though I'm not sure I have ever listened to a lot of their stuff are the solid dm bands

I'm hating on Slayer and the ones kek 🤷

lel

or all these meme ones

slayers bretty good imo

Death is good too

but nothing I'd listen to regularly

I just don't feel Slayer idk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn6X0s-dbbA

das solid

the end is too good

geezus the drummer on ziggurat is mental

machine gun

kek everyone says so

do you know where I can torrent their shit?

rutracker doesnt seem to have it

download SoulSeekQt

*SoulseekQT

whatever kek

@Sayonara Braincells huh lets maybe post in English here

🤷

cuck

do I need to log in or why doesnt it show anything at all when I search for something?

just log in 🤷

yea thought so

everything needs an account nowadays

yeah :/

but its good

you can't really get all this music on regular torrent trackers

at least I dont need an invite

owo

I hope the stasi won't bust me for being a baddy internet criominal

huh

oh yeah you live in a first world country

you can actually get penalised for dling shit

I know

kek

but it went well for years

>mfw poland is slowly becoming first world as well

has its disadvantages

I want more bm this fast pls

this is my tempo lel

maybe try Bestia Arcana - Holokauston, it's fucking epic but vocals themselves aren't really fast, the drums and riffs are tho

its kind of different from regular bm

so idk

pretty good so far

its not as straight forward as regular bm

thats for sure

Le evolution

@rogalik whats your opinion on constitutional monarchy with an actualy politically actve king and a working seperation of power?

is there a parliament and a government?

yea people still vote but the royal family exists besides that

think if the queen was actually an acting monarch

like the crown holds the executive power while parliament holding the legislative

well I'm not particularly fond of monarchs I mean if the ruler is decided by succession laws and not really by any merit whatsoever(you can claim that there is no "merit" in democracy either but someone running for PM/President have at least to gain some popularity) and can't be replaced if he's obviously incapable of doing his job right, then what? you will inevitably end up with a bunch of idiots on the throne

there were excellent kings who exhibited unmatched strategic sense but there was even more of no name turds

I don't see a reason to give anything to anyone by birth

my idea was creating a commite with no political power that observes the heir during his growth to determine if he is capable, also he will be taught in morals and state theory and such

also it could be an elected monarchy

every dynasty picks one heir and a commitee votes for the most capable

if it's elected monarchy why not simply a republic then 🤷

or aristocratic family rather

you know we've had an elected monarchy in Poland

the plebs cant vote tho

dunno if you're familiar with that

our nobles were voting for the king

and it went down the shitter real fast

why?

game of thrones like intrigue?

or was the elected guy just a twat

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/dd/Polish-Lithuanian_Commonwealth_at_its_maximum_extent.svg/1280px-Polish-Lithuanian_Commonwealth_at_its_maximum_extent.svg.png

>go from this

>to nothing

>in 200 years

👌

wew

cuz we ended up having a string of idiots on the throne

thats why we need an impartial council

later on any polish-lithuanian king would be effectively elected by foreign powers...

>my idea was creating a commite with no political power that observes the heir during his growth to determine if he is capable, also he will be taught in morals and state theory and such

that's what was more or less happening, I mean not really the first part but the heirs would get education and shit

well the first part is the important one tho

why limit yourself to only those people from the royal family?

less of a hassle

there are thousands even more capable politicians out there

>less of a hassle

royalty has better access to education cuz they are rich and dont need to work

why is "hassle" bad

democratic process was designed to ensure fair and effective transition of power

it works

>royalty has better access to education cuz they are rich and dont need to work
modern elites are basically royalty too, they receive top tier education

thats we still have an elected parliament

thats the whole point

its that the elite

are smart

and one way to define elite is by going with royalty

yeah then why can't they run for the top office?

they can

in parliament

only royalty can

top office = head of the state

we dont need to make king head of state

we can make king and pm equals

as they hold ifferent authorites

I just don't see a reason at all to limit yourself to just a few of the people

I don't see anything that favors monarchy really 🤷

R O Y A L T Y A E S T H E T I C S

it might be aesthetic but you wouldn't want your fate being decided by aesthetics, but by merit

every single european monarchy ultimately went down the shitter

of those which didn't, they were gradually cessing their power to the parliament anyway 🤷

thats why I keep saying that its not an absolute monarchy

do you think there is anyone in your country more capable to govern than Merkel? 🤷

do you think a king would do better?

a king would hold different authorities than merke

and I dont think merkel is the pinnacle of governance

merkel would exist next to the king

if you go by aesthetics then you can have monarchy just like some European countries do - just for official things, but they hold no power whatsoever

on an equal scale with different powers

thats pointless tho

Merkel might not be the best politician in world history but she's an elite politician I don't see a reason to think otherwise, she's been able to maintain power in the most powerful country in Europe for all those years, and some of her schemes are quite impressive tbh like the same-sex marriage thing before the last elections that basically fucked SPD and die Gruene in the ass kek

do you know why merkel holds power?

because 40% of germans are old people

maybe its not Bismarck tier stuff but she's fine by me 🤷

it might be that

but I really don't see anyone more capable

all the people who vote cdu vote cdu because they always voted cdu

thats true

but that doesnt mean merkel is fine

its just that everyone else is incompetent

the best you can have 🤷

I mean I'm not really into this kind of thinking

if someone is the best I would rather say he's good and appreciate him instead of saying all the other people are incompetent

the bueraucratic machine we have in place only allows for small grey lumpf of human beings to get anywhere close to power

so I dont think that she is the best we can have

oonly the best we are allowed to have

do you really think Merkel isn't fine? of course some of her decisions were controversial, some were just utter shit(though I can see some reasoning in them anyway), but after all your country is doing graet

our country doesnt seem to have a backbone when it comes to the us and is a slave to the automobil lobby

impressive economy, billion budget surplus, billion trade surplus

many countries absolutely envy you

do you know why we have surplus

i know

it's still surplus 🤷

I wouldn't complain too much about that

because we dont get money for programs that benefit the citizens

uhh well..

our infracstrucutre is going down the shitter

thats just one thing tbh

just as much as my grammar is

I don't think German infrastructure is that bad tbh

look Italy <:haha:318675605233336330>

its not only physical infrastructure

I am talking digital

tbh

all of Europe is 1000000000 years behind in IT

that's true

but it's not only German problem

it's a thing bigger than Germany and I don't think you're the ones to blame

surely not Merkel

*well actually you're the ones to be blamed for it kek*

under merkel all germany is is a maintenance apparatus

"weiter so"

this IT thing was really inevitable after WW2, massive brain drain to the US and no single European country can match their resources really

you know, there was an open letter recently, by scientists

to fund some European AI research centre

because all our brightest brains are just drained to the US

hmm wonder why

and no single country can do anything about that

you'd need EU wide cooperation

or Europe wide actually

like with CERN

but we wont get that

for all the reasons you stated

I don't blame Germany for that, it's too big for you to deal with 🤷

cdugonna keep sitting

riding it out

that's why I want more EU in some fields, otherwise we are literally fucked in the ass by the US and soon by China

we'll be fine but we'll never be on the top again

this is exactly what makes me angry

I dont want to be just fine

but rn Germany is a place "you can live good and well" in

no need for change

for me all those nationalists with their gibberish about muh "sovereignty" and muh "taking back control" just want their countries to do fine, because well no one will invade the UK, it won't ever become poor, it'll be just fine, but all the brightest British minds will be drained away

they don't realise what's needed for their countries to be on the top or they simply lack ambition idk

we are Europeans ffs we are not here just to be fine

is that a jupiter?

well I guees CDU and Merkel became quite stale tbh

yes I guess there won't be any revolution under Merkel, and something is needed to be done

yes its jupiter

today (thursday) is day of jupiter

you mean thor?

yes

Thors day

on May uhh 9th or something I don't remember but anyway recently Jupiter was in opposition to Earth

and it was in its brightest

how do you know that shit man fkn nerd

>mfw I don't even have some fucking binoculars to spot the Galilean moons

btw Galilean moons would all technically be visible to a naked eye

but they're too close to Jupiter 🤷

why jupiter?

wat

Galilean moons are the four largest moons of Jupiter

Ganymede, Callisto, Io and based Europa

i mean your name

btw they've recently confirmed some water geyser plumes on Europa

it'll be easy to fly by and check it for life and shit

cuz I wanted some cool character for the name

i see

and it's aesthetical

and Jupiter is based

saturn>jupiter