All three of my boots (hunting, hiking, and work) are redwing/Irish setter

Best brand

Union guys get all the best shit

^ this guy...

aha

Tell me I'm wrong

I would go union if I could talk to my 18 year old self. I've got other things going on rn, though, so it's too late

I go danner...

(He says casually as if he hasn't already said this dozens of times in this server)

Storable food (20 year shelf life):

Augason Farms Basic Emergency Food Pail (1,220 calories/day ~ $70, 523 cal/$) = <https://www.samsclub.com/sams/af-basic-30d-pail/prod21271370.ip>
Augason Farms Emergency Food Supply Pail (1,822 calories/day ~ $95, 575 cal/$) = <https://www.samsclub.com/sams/af-30-day-basic-food/prod20380167.ip>

Just watch out for soy in some 9f those products. I do buy that brand for emergency rations and snacks in the car, but the meats have soy....

Compared to what? Compared to other storable food options, there's no additional soy. Ingredients list here: <https://theepicenter.com/augason-farms-ingredients-nutrition>

A common suggestion for storable food is Mountain House, but they are way expensive.

There's also Backpacker's Pantry, which is also pricey

Check out Alex Jones stuff that is rebranded My Patriot Supply

I have My Patriot Supply (purchased from InfoWars). Augason Farms is cheaper.

You're probably paying more for the brand

"Augason FDA Approved Industrial Nutrition Slop"

You're probably paying for food that isn't disgusting, as well

No, I'm talking about the Alex Jones shit

There's no reason why Infowars food would be particularly good quality

I think Auguson is available through Walmart as well

@Jacob if comparing Alex to others that are freeze dried, per calorie it's pretty good and not slop, just better packaged cheap stuff.

Augason, and many others, rely on beans a great deal, which is good, but not what I'd prefer in a meal, pound for pound, it isn't my preference. Have ordered Alex stuff and it's not garbage. Have eaten it as an alternative to groceries when unemployed for 6 months. No matter what you get, food storage is a great emergency investment.

This forklift. This thing is crazy reliable! Every time I drive it I think, "there's no way something this old works this good".

Do you ever worry about breathing in random chemicals?

Nah. The tote I'm filling is just water and before that it was seed oil, but I'm mostly just amazed by this forklift. I'm moving 250 gal water totes over muddy ground and this thing just doesn't care.

In case anyone is wondering what we use seed oil for it goes in our sprayers to help with crop absorption and prevent evaporation loss of other chemicals. The medical treatment for accidental consumption is to drink 2 large glasses of water.

@Der Seeteufel - SD what brand is that forklift? How old is it? Just curious.

Case and I think it's a 62 or 63.

That's sweet. We used to have this old Case tractor that was a 70s model, it was a beast. We also had a Ford that was a 70s model too both were great. But they didn't take the abuse you put on a tractor. Most tobacco is done by hand, so besides plowing they were just used to pull wagons.

They really don't make things like they used too. I was headed down to the Perryville battlefield on Saturday and I saw more than 1 really old tractors still being used to tend fields. It was a beautiful thing.

Looking for a new garden hose and hose reel. In searching for a reel I came across this site: https://www.eleyhosereels.com/collections/garden-hose-reels/products/free-standing-garden-hose-reel

Any recommendations? Does this look unusually expensive, or just the white price?

@Ben - OH For your consideration: https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/the-best-garden-hose/

@Ben - OH after having one of these I won’t go back to a regular hose. https://get.expandablehoses.com/expandable-hoses-1/?cmp_id=1510653570&adg_id=61834864207&kwd=%2Bexpanding%20%2Bhose&device=m&gclid=CjwKCAjw8O7bBRB0EiwAfbrThwzJJmR6KuN39N2V5GCxCcMA1GthLBxrk4U06bl3Ko_-q4iueKucqhoCxzkQAvD_BwE

@JesseJames Very interesting, how long have you had one?

I had a lower quality one for a few years and broke it. So I found that one and I’ve had it for about a year it is really good quality.

Cool, does it work well with a reel?

I’m sure. I just put mine in my car wash bucket never gets tangled or anything.

I am sure you could wrap it around a reel just fine

Buoyant sunglasses?

https://kzgear.com/collections/floatable

@Matthias I've seen this same basic thing in walmart that say they float in water made by piranha (I can't spell it)

@Tanner - SC I have some MREs that I'd sell

If anyone wanted those for emergency supply

@Tanner - SC or anyone else...if you work for a retailer...there are ways to get huge discounts on mountain house. There is an app you can be invited to called ExpertVoice

You tell them what your interested in and you get a profile of companies that give you discounts when you learn about their products, and take a little test...most items are at cost or close to it, and they change from time to time, but MH has been on there as long as I've been on it.

The catch is that you have to ship everything to work. We don't even sell half the brands that honor us with deals, they like that people who are involved in using their stuff are evangelists for them.

@Freiheit - CA do you know if the brands can limit how much they send or choose geographic regions? Basically If I sign up do I have to send 100,000 samples out?

No... you buy what you want. It's not a job... I like company XYZ, I study company XYZ's stuff, take a test to prove I know about XYZ stuff, get awarded with a discount code to use. Can't share the codes or "order for friends and family" but you can basically get a bunch of stuff that you want to go camping or whatever whenever you want. @Prestor John

Awesome.

You have to work in retail at some level and they limit how many users are in each area.

I got the Aquatuff hose at the recommendation of @JesseJames , and in doing so I got a 20% off coupon code for anyone who's interested: THANKS20

Included note: "Have a friend who might need a hose? Feel free to give them the code."

@Ben - OH thanks smooth

Also if anyone likes Oakleys I get a discount for being military gladly get u whatever u want at the discounted price

@Ben - OH how do you like it?

It looks great in the packaging 😂

Get it out and wash the wives car tomorrow!

Yeah, tell us what you think.

WAIT, you have a car just for all your wives? How many do you have?! @JesseJames

:really: @Freiheit - CA

😆

I was actually talking to smooth he is the one with three.

Wew👀 I've got some catching up to do!

I'm working on #1

Looking at buying a washer/drier combo. Won’t buy LG or Samsung, I want to support whites. GE is based in Kentucky, but sold out to the Chinese, so I’m on the fence. Electrolux is a smaller manufacturer, Swedish, I’ll consider them. Bosch is very small in the washing machine market, is German. Whirlpool, all American and the world’s largest appliance manufacturer. That sounds good ...

The FIRST to feature homosexual “families” in advertisements. Domestic partner benefits since 2002!

We have whirlpool combo. Works great.

idk about their politics though.

I feel like any large corp these days has taken the pozed route to advertising.

there are incentives to do so.

Yes, but it’s different to be the LEADER in poz.

either way it was the best deal I got when we bought them this past january. and they are american made.

I suppose they faced the most pressure because they’re the largest appliance manufacturer, but ugh. Was anybody else outside of appliance industry giving homo subsidies back in 2002?

in 02 prob not

the poz really started getting popular around 2010 I think

Yeah, they seem to have good prices and still made here. Though Electrolux employs a friend of mine in Charlotte and has factories in Anderson SC.

Yeah, 2010 and after is far more understandable. 2002 is nuts.

For what its worth our combo has worked well thus far.

If it’s a good American made machine, I’d say buy it.

I sold appliances for a bit

LG and Samsung are highest rated on consumer reports/jd power atm

Whirlpool are good, if you have problems its easier to get parts for it and have people work on it than the korean brands

Best case scenario the appliances last 8-10 years, they dont have much longevity anymore

Definitely buy an extended warranty. I recommend buying your appliances at Lowes and getting the 5 year lowes warranty, bumper to bumper coverage and theyll reimburse 30% of the cost of the warranty if you never need it by the end of its term

Whirlpool makes Maytag/kitchen aid/few others

GE sold out their appliances to Haier, the low end ones anyway

Free delivery/hookup as well and they'll haul away the old appliances for 20$ each

I’m going to buy this one because an autist tests washing machines on YouTube and this is his top pick.
https://youtu.be/tpsrrjSXw5o

I never buy extended warranties because they’re designed to be profitable for the company. If consumers, on average, came out ahead with the warranties, the company would raise the price until they’re profitable.

Bad move

And what kind of argument is that a product is designed to be profitable for a company

Of course it is thats how a business operates

Maytags are good. Heres why you need to get a warranty

The mechanical components will last forever

However, all appliances are full of electronics now, those are what shit out on you

One power surge and your 1.1k maytag combo is toast

Also, the top loader with the agitator beats up your clothes. HE's are statistically better at cleaning clothes although I dont know how the tests were conducted

If you have a 5 year warranty that is 3 years less than the expected life of the product anyway

If you have a queen size/king sized bed a 3.5 cb ft capacity won't even come close to holding your bedding either

>And what kind of argument is that a product is designed to be profitable for a company

A warranty is not a physical product, it is an insurance policy. Very different things. All you're purchasing is financial stability and they charge a premium for this risk trade. On average, they make money on that bet. On average, the consumer loses money on that bet.

>If you have a queen size/king sized bed a 3.5 cb ft capacity won't even come close to holding your bedding

I'd like something larger, but the reviews I'm reading indicate that the 2018 regulations for "high efficiency" make the washers much less good at cleaning, so there appear to not be many good options. The comforter would be the only issue, can I could just take that to a dry cleaner or something. I don't currently use a comforter because I'm always hot.

Warranties are just insurance. Yeah, you'll probably stay healthy in which case health insurance could be a waste of money, but if something goes wrong, it's worth it

Appliances these days suck

But the warranty is up to you

the lowes extended warranty allows you to cash out for the crappy appliances if you have 4 or more issues

within the length of the warranty

> if something goes wrong, it's worth it
And if nothing goes wrong, you wasted money. On average, you wasted money. If it was a good deal on average, the company wouldn't provide it because they'd lose money. I self-insure as much as physically possible.

My parents replaced the fridge they'd used for 20 years with an expensive new one and it broke after maybe a year and a half

I was going to buy a commercial grade washing machine from Speed Queen, but they completely changed their design for the 2018 DOE regulations and now it sucks at cleaning clothes.

Old speed queens are great

Anything new is dog crap

I spoke with reps from just about every appliance company when I sold them

They will tell you to your face

It reminds me of when they put in those idiotic "anti-leak" spouts on gas cans and now I spill far more and the flow rate is stupid low.

I just want a 2017 Speed Queen combo.

Thanks Obama, literally.

>you'll probably stay healthy in which case health insurance could be a waste of money,

Health insurance is a totally different ballgame because it's so heavily regulated and manipulated that it's no longer a simple risk trade like car insurance or extended warranties.

You get charged a higher rate for not having health insurance, which is crazy. And it's tied to everything, not just drastic events. Regular maintenance is still an insurance-related event. It has become a necessity.

a 120$ warranty that lasts about the length of your appliances expected duration that can be partially refunded in the event you never need it, and will of course pay itself off in the event it IS needed is a great deal

Lotteries are a "stupid tax" on the poor.
Car loans, non-health insurance, and extended warranties are a "stupid tax" on the middle-class.

Of course if you don't use it then you think, damn, wasted my money

Ok bro

Call me when your commercial may tag shorts and you have 25 gallons of water sitting in a big metal box that you have to bucket out yourself

If it was, on average, a good deal for the consumer, the provider would be losing money.

Some companies take care of their customers?

You're overthinking this so much

If their extended warranty is priced below the clearing rate, then it's a good deal for me. I highly doubt any company is willing to take a loss on extended warranties in order to buy positive brand image. Positive brand image is targeted by making the default warranty longer.

priced below the clearing rate ?

As in, their payouts exceed their revenues from the extended warranties. Would never happen.

Obviously, but believe me when I say that big stores like depot or lowes arent making much on appliance sales

They take care of you pretty damn well when you purchase appliances there

And the warranty isn't a corporate stupid tax

And honestly, that's pretty damn rude

Yes, I was planning to buy at Home Depot or Lowes, unless it's not offered like a Speed Queen.

I'd buy at lowes because they have free delivery/cheap haulaway of old appliances

Plus they'll price match

You probably just missed the big labor day sale though

No, it's good through Sept-12.

Oh good deal

Yeah that'll be the best sale until the next 4th of July I believe

Plus I need one, the place I'm moving to doesn't have a washer/dryer and the one's I'm using now aren't mine.

What do you think about GE? They sold the company to Haier (Chinese), but they're still make in Kentucky.

GE is solid. Sales are heavily down for them and I think their refrigerators have quite a few quality issues but overall I think their decent.

Buying appliances is seriously a lottery

I had people dish out 2k for fridges/washers and dryers and have them go bad within 2 months

Gross. Even with Whirlpool?

Yep

Go look at the lawsuits for every appliance brand due to icemaker issues

Every single appliance brand can't get it right

Why do the Japanese not make appliances?

Idk. Samsung and LG have only recently made their foray into appliances

And idk of any big japanese tech companies that could make appliance divisions

Honda makes lawnmowers, why not washing machines? Just turn the darn things upside-down and add a tub.

Hah. Yeah I suppose Honda could try. There just isn't a ton of money in appliances

I'd pay a premium for a Honda washer. I'd pay a premium for the Speed Queen if the government didn't ruin them.

Same, Speed Queens are solid. The older speed queens would last like 30 years

All the 2018 reviews for all washers are saying the water restrictions got tighter so they don't fill with enough water and the electric restrictions got tighter so they don't even turn your clothes hard enough to move them, they just jiggle a little.

Are there any brands comparable to Speed Queen? In that they offer a higher quality product that should be more reliable.

The HE washers by design are supposed to use less water. If they filled with more water they wouldn't do anything but float in the machine

HE washers wash your clothes the same way you wash your hands

They rub the clothes against each other and you can only do so when the tub isn't plum full

And no I don't think so. Maytag is probably the closest and that's only because WP bought them out when they went under in order to scoop up the laundromat market which is where Maytag dominated

Understood. Thanks for the tips.

@BryceB-ND What are your thoughts on the 5.0+ cu-ft washers?

They can double as a swimming pool

It sounds like they just made the tub deeper, so that could make for a very heavy load on the motor, plus maybe not wash as well since the top clothes are so far away from the mini agitator at the bottom and might not get fully turned over in the wash.

lol idk, I think at that point unless you have a 10 person family or a lot of dogs, something along those lines, they're unnessecary

4.5cuft should do everything you need it to do

But if the appliance will last me several years, I plan to have many children, so I might have a huge amount of laundry to do in 5 years.

Funny, I was typing that before I read the "10 person family". #LifeGoals

The impeller in HE machines are less designed to turn the clothes over like the agitators

hah

Well there ya go

If a ton of strain is placed on the machine mechanically, like its jumping around too much, the bearings will go about before the motor usually

The new Speed Queens have an agitator that's rigid mounted to the tub, so the agitator cannot move independent of the tub. Has anyone else done something so radical? They just rely on rotating the tub back and forth and the speed of the water to push the clothes into the agitator.

Hah what the heck

They don't sell Speed queens at Lowes, where I worked briefly when I moved, so I'm not too familiar with them

If you love music and want to carry your entire collection around on a budget, I recommend a Sansa Clip Plus (~$100) + Rockbox firmware ( https://www.rockbox.org/download/ ) + 200GB ($62) or larger microSD memory card.

The high-capacity microSD card will need to be formatted FAT32 to work.

With Rockbox, this little player supports almost every digital music format known to man. Gapless playback for the popular formats. Damn good volume too.

https://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipplus/rockbox-buildap2.html#x17-374000B

I've played back a 192KHz FLAC file using this thing. May have been 24 bit too. It can also play multi-channel FLAC and downmix to stereo.

ONE CAVEAT: You have to go easy on the headphone jack. It you abuse it, it will break. I got a refurb player and ended up soldering in my own headphone input cable.

I propose a twist on “buy it for life”. This is a “buy it for *protecting* life.”
All you car drivers ... what vehicle do you want to be in when the mom behind you on the highway in the Suburban gets distracted for a few seconds by her kids? When vehicles collide, do you want to be the golf club or the golf ball? Spend the extra money and buy a bigger vehicle to protect you and your loved ones. Vehicular collisions are the #1 cause of death and injury to healthy whites.
https://v.redd.it/j54iu9svslp11

64 Champ Studebaker.

Runs like a Champ.

Beautiful @Der Seeteufel - SD

Unfortunately it isn't really mine. I just got to drive it last night.

<@&403278493468852237> I feel like my electric shaver barely shaves. My dad insists that I'm just using it incorrectly, and if I used it every day it'll work fine. Even when I shave when it's already short and press really hard, it still leaves a lot. Do electric shavers actually suck this much? Is there a chance I just have a bad one? Could I just be using it wrong? How much does it cost to buy one that doesn't suck?

I always have to use an electric shaver and a disposable

@Jacob i can't use electric razors, parents always use to get em for me as a teen. Didnt do Jack shit had to use it fir an hour to get anything done. Always stuck with 3 blade bics or the like

A Braun series 7.

traditional safety razor is the way to go!!! 😎

Once you've used a trad single blade razor you can't go back to pleb tier disposable.

@lonewolf19d @Attrition in the desert It's CHEAP too

Since we are on the topic of a great shave, I recently read this article and found a few great products through it. https://www.realmenrealstyle.com/best-shave-of-your-life/

OneBlade seems to be quite interesting. The quality and long term affordability of a safety razor with quality materials and engineering as well as the glide and flexibility of the better cartridge razors.

Brickell has natural products, no animal testing, and offers free sample kits.

I'll probably start using both products after I use up my current stuff.

@Matthias I've seen the OneBlade and have been interested in it... may have to pick one up for using in the field when i dont have time for my usual wet shave

Old fashioned safety razor and a good old fashioned wet shave 👌🏻

Anyone have experience with latex mattresses? Looking at Spindle

@apronandlace I purchased one about 10-11 years ago from Denver Mattress. It didn't breath well and retained more heat than I've ever encountered in a bed (I own a Tempur-Pedic now). The foam also began to have noticeable body impressions after a few years. Perhaps the technology has greatly improved since then, but I wasn't a fan.

This is a nice table but is it really worth $1,250? https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0725KFTBN/

All my furniture is quite cheap so I don't have much perspective on the issue

Ethan Allen is a good brand. The pricing seems inline with their other furniture. I assume this is meant to be a permanent piece?

@Ecarttev Yeah I was looking up what I could replace some of my current plastic furniture from kmart with. It would replace a 40 dollar fold up picnic table we have out in the living room. At these prices I might just squash any ideas of upgrading from my functional plastic furniture 😅

I feel you. I've got my eye on some "team 7" tables, but at this point it's aspirational.

You're metro area?

@Ecarttev yep. and part of the motivation for me to stick with cheap furniture is that since I rent where I live, cheap furniture makes it easier for me to move if part of that move involves throwing something out (and cheap furniture tends to be lighter in general). (And yes I'm embarassed this sounds like a gypsy.)

Hey, I'm with my parents still, saving up for a house. No judgement.

Smart! Glad to hear it 😁

I still use a fold-up table as a dining table; I just put nice tablecloths and a candle centerpiece, on it, and it looks nice.

Duct tape.

I've been trying out these bamboo toothbrushes...they're not bad! Each handle is numbered. Better for the environment than throwing out plastic ones. Supposedly bamboo has some anti-bacterial properties, too.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HQXCQCF/

The first one is holding up very well, bristles included.