Money = Freedom

I'm stupid man, I've never even considered a refi

@Wotan Reborn Being invaluable to society=freedom. Money is just a metric to measure how valuable you are

Well it certainly makes it easier

Yeah, I'm just being a semantic dick

Anyone want to learn how to cut stones?

Ooooooh

Yeah

Oy vey goys, don't do that!

My dad and little brother started a Jewelry store after he retired. My dad is GIA certified geologist.

(((Jew)))elry

The jews don't control the jewelry business anymore, just a stake in the diamond trade, The Chinese run that industry. China is loaded with minerals, and cheap labor create cheap jewelry.

You know cutting stones is very similar to cutting a gear on an indexing head

@Deleted User give me a couple of weeks, I only see my parent's on the weekend. So I'll need time to show the process.
Also @Deleted User is doing a great job on showing things that can dress up a house to get a different look.

Ran into some asbestos today. Old 9x9 floor tile, someone used to hold a window sill up. Haha

Lads, if you need immediate help with a subject, please tag <@&322715617138311171> or <@&338760705945894913> so we can get to you right away. If there is no <@&322715617138311171> around, I can tag @everyone to find one of our brothers to help. I don't want questions on here going unanswered.

I would like an invite to the RE investment server. Thank you.

@Zyzz

@Wyatt Wayne - CO#2290 Invite sent

Good morning @everyone. I want to share something pretty autistic and pretty personal with you. I’m a big believer in consistent self-improvement, and in keeping a balance of academic, physical, and spiritual pursuits. I’m an older lad, and settled down, so I have time to engage in these pursuits. This is a pic is a little diagram I’ve prepared to show you how I pursue this balance, and I provide it so that maybe you can use it as a model to balance your own pursuits. If you do, and are comfortable sharing them, I would love to see them. You'll have to click on "open in original" to be able to read it I think.

@Deleted User yes you have to open in browser.

This is pretty intense. Maintaining this consistently takes extreme discipline

It's really just a two-hour a day commitment for everything, with room for a once per week break. So I agree the tricky part for guys is probably going to be maintaining it in the long run, to stay focused on your our paths over months and years.

I thought I was a freak for thinking this way, too. People often call me a Renaissance man, and sometimes question me when I state what "I'm in to". It's great to see other people making sure they are well rounded. Even with all that said, I often feel as if I could and should do more.

@Deleted User

My spiritual brother in PA is like this in a different way.

He has a family, but can often out perform his childless peers handily.

My grandma who was raised in the Third Reich was taught to be well rounded and productive, while still maintaining a feminine aura.

Thanks for sharing this, brother.

@Deleted User I just typed mine up. I have a binder/daily planner I coordinate this all through. Every sunday I plan out my weekly goals and everynight before bed I plan out my next day.

Ill also be looking into the books you mentioned, thanks.

@Bayernmensch#6240 Thanks brother I am glad to know there are other guys who believe in this approach. There's still plenty of time in the day to specialize, but I feel like we should have a broad foundation.

@Brandon Ironside- ND That's perfect! I'd really encourage more guys - especially the younger guys - to come @here, have a look at your document, and do a similar write-up.

i should do this

Aye brother. These outlines can be really helpful.

@Deleted User Its hard for me to put into words how much of a postive impact having long term goals, broken into short term, then implemented on a weekly/daily basis has had. Just remember: small action every day/week + long time period = big change. I could write pages on this but im guessing most people dont need advice from a internet fashy Tony Robbins knockoff haha.

I suspect quite a few of us could write volumes on this. I get called a Renaissance man too, because of obvious reasons. I think it's valuable for you, me, others like us to write about these things, and why we are like this, and why it's valuable for our people, our culture, etc. Men of a certain caliber had much more expected of them in the past, in terms of breadth. The environment *demanded* much more of them. Specialization and the comforts of the modern world made that less crucial. Providing your own take on the ways and means to be all you can be and are, again, has value. Your writing may resonate with someone where Tony Robbins or others, or my writing, may not resonate. And inspire and guide and assist those for whom it does.

@Why Tea I find myself agreeing with your words, I'll mull over some ideas!

*Men of a certain caliber had much more expected of them in the past, in terms of breadth. The environment demanded much more of them.* Awesome lines.

@Deleted User Maybe a members articles channel may be useful, where members can write articles, you can act like an editer, then post them all to an articles channel? just an idea

Interesting idea - wha kinds of articles are you thinking?

basically typed topics that don't fit anywhere else, for example an article "self improvement from a European perspective" comes to mind after the recent discussion.

I don't know how many others are interested in writing though

I would take a swing at that article and others could too, get different perspectives

I'll move this to sme

Excellent goal listing @Brandon Ironside- ND

After seeing our other server on both of your lists, I'd like to mention to @everyone that if you are interested in our ancestors heritage please send me a DM and I'll invite you to the Northern European Spirituality server I run with some great people.

We cover Germanic/Nordic, Celtic, Slavic cultures, and have weekly chats where we discuss lore, Spirituality, community, and a lot more.

Thanks for the invite @Deleted User

We have a hike planned in WV in October, and a few Midwest meet ups soon.

Awesome server!

Hi @Volkmom

Hi!!

Welcome @Volkmom

Thank you!

Ok. Don't ban me for this one Haha. But can we have an environment channel? Immigration is destroying land and the massive sprawl. A lot of good groups doing positive work and I feel this is a great way to work towards getting environmentalist back into no population growth.

Avoid the Sierra club. The Nature Conservancy is great. In each State there are other groups geared to local issues etc. Numbersusa.com pushes the environment issue regarding immigration as well.

And why can't I post in gardening lessons? @moderator

You have to be labeled a "subject matter expert" to post in a lessons channel.

you can post in gardening-discussions though

Ah ok

Ok. Thanks!

Going to try and make a write up similar to yours William and Engineer. Very good to have things on paper like thta.

that

@BryceB-ND look forward to seeing it!

@BryceB-ND same!

Any need for a sales and marketing thread?

Good topic @AltRightMick, useful skill no matter what field you're in.

I work in sales for a marketing company lol

this is a pretty cool server. I work as an appraiser. so if you guys need info on real estate i got it.

I'm in sales as well.

my job is basically to get the real value of a property. mostly maths and market value research. riviting stuff i know but it makes good money.

I have lots of sales experience but I never got good at it. I can make connections but I suck at persuasion.

Yes, definitely make a sales channel. *Everyone* is in sales, whether they know it or not.

The people that don't know it will get the most out of it.

I'm an experienced songwriter/musician.

Same

Hey ya'll I'm a antique enthusiast love fixing cleaning and repairing antiques

Welcome to all our new members. Poke around in this channel and in <#338772935462354945> to get a lay of the land.

I'm in medical school right now. Semester 3. When I'm done I'm happy to help every single one of you in any way I can. I am willing now if anyone has questions about anything I would be more than happy to try. Message me on the side for anything at all.

Anyone here involved in aviation? @ me

Anyone bought land?? I have read a few books, but still a lot of unanswered questions. Just want to buy a little piece of rural property. Likely in an area to be developed and then sell for good profit to really buy some acreage.

depends on what type of land you want.

@Deleted User forest, open/grassy, furtile, also where in the US?

also there is the issue sometimes of not having access because the parcel is surrounded by other people so you have to make a deal with the other land owners.

also open land is fairly easy to find but do you want one with a small house on it already?

@Deleted User No house on it. Looking in rural Florida but near sprawl. My idea is anything now that will be developed. Then use the profit to buy a good amount and preserve and possibly build on later.

Yes, true on the access rights.

so to know what will be developed you have to look into what buisnesses are moving there that will draw people. for example in nNV up here in Reno the Tesla giga factory is up and running, this is brining allot of people to start moving to Silver Springs, Dayton, and other smaller towns around the Reno/Carson area. you could have made an investment on a large piece of literal desert land that has access rights and sold it 2-10 years later for a profit because people are moving out there (depending on where the property is exactly).

one guy up here bought 50 acres just outside of silver springs all with access. he is going to make bank in a few years.

We have a huge place called the Villages in Orlando metro. Boomers retiring and it is growing so fast. If you buy out 5 miles, it will be developed. I love the environment and hate the idea of selling to developers, but will happen either way. Then make enough to really have a homestead.

In the meantime a place for 2nd Amendment activities, camping etc.

my plan is to buy 10+ acres somewhere in PA. forest and either no house or little house on top of it.

Nice. Jewerly, fancy cars aren't my idea of being rich. Land is where it is at and all the freedom it brings!

land prices have been going up tho. not as fast as home prices but yea

I know a couple millionaires with hundreds of acres. You would never know. 20 year old truck and down to earth af

Could sell and live anywhere, but never will. Not giving up that peaceful lifestyle.

Thanks for the chat @Deleted User best of luck to you too in your search.

As they say, the further North you go in Florida, the further South you are. The panhandle area is THE deep South and the hospitality that comes with it.

Buying land in MT can be cheaper than purchasing a small house in the inner city, alot of factors at play. I'd choose land over urban residence any day.

@DavidOrlando#5630 make sure you brush up on your zoning laws wherever you plan on buying. In a lot of cases zoning is more valuable than the actual land it’s on

Good point! Thanks @Deleted User

Any plumbers in the NY area?

I was just going to ask that also

If you find someone can you let me know @Deleted User ?

Absolutely. Where are you?

Im in LI

Near Albany

Even if I can find someone to help work through what I need

Same here. If there are plumbers I would be happy to give some business.

Same here only problem is my location seems to be hours away from everyone hahaa

Afternoon, folks. I am a professional, ASE certified mechanic with most of my work experience in BMW and Hyundai dealer service centers, if anyone ever needs a hand.

I am a certified yoga instructor, down to do free collective style classes for fellow WN. Also does one have to be an IE member to be added to this server?

Wish I had you around when I had my 325 @von Raudenbusch

E46?

hi everyone! i’m a music teacher if anyone ever wants to talk music theory or needs help learning guitar & piano techniques!

Hey everyone, I’m a track and field coach — primarily events from 3k to 10k and cross country. Feel free to message me if anyone is interested in running and wants some coaching or advice.

@Tim - NH you should get on the fitness server

Definitely, I’m new to discord. How would one go about doing that?

Let me see what I can do

Awesome.

I asked just waiting for a reply

You’re the best!

You new to IE?

Yup. Just joined last night actually.

Welcome brother

How you find out about IE?

Glad to be here. Long story short: my older brother had a “Become Who You Are” sticker which got me looking into the group. That was last May, but I only applied last week.

@Tim - NH Noice. I wish my brothers were a little more WN.

My brother has been talking about joining IE

When she gets old enough, I'm definitely hooking my sister up here.

How old's your brother? What are his politics like? @Whitelash

21, I would say monarchism

He's smart, smarter than I am he introduced me into the alt right

About the time of the mike brown chimp out

@Whitelash#3099 Cool, he reads a lot of Moldbug?

I coach high school basketball. How do we join the fitness server?

hey buddy new to this server

glad to be aboard! ever since my announcement in our state/regional server I have been going to the gym for at least 1 hour a day

no pussy tier excuses

all thanks to IE bullying 😉

Haha. Remember man its not the time you put in-its what you do in that time!

i have been doing interval training for cardio

so i can get this fine film of fat off my gut

lol

but per suggestion of @Deleted User and Nick from NJ starting strength and the videos posted really helped me understand what i do, muscle groups, diet

and so on

Good for you man. Having more muscle will burn more calories too and you will become ripped!

hell yea

Are you doing a before and after pic

yes, me and Fashboy from NJ are gonna start going together

when i go with him the first time starting this weekend I plan to do the before pic

and after the 1st month do like a progression

I'll do a before pic too. Scrawny to brawny.

Anybody here a reseller? I've been a reseller since 2012 and am doing fairly well. The great thing about reselling is that it's a dox proof trade.

I dabble with used phones on ebay. Definitely wouldn't call myself an expert though.

I've dropped over $20k this year so far on inventory. Hoping to do atleast another 15-$20k by the end of the year.

I used to resell vintage and thrift shop finds on eBay

I've thought about opening my own thrift store but I'm pretty lazy so that seems like too much work. I like to find winners and then pull the trigger on 100-300 units and then ship them out.

Eventually you get others to do the labor. Thrift stores are one of a shrinking list of types of brick and mortar shops that still do well.

Yeah I totally think thrift stores are a gold mine. There's an indian that owns 3-4 in my city and I know he's making a killing. I could be wrong but I think they are 501c3's as well. If not there are many in my city that market themselves like they are.

@Brandon Ironside- ND Name changed?

Nope. Lemme change it for you.

@Brandon Ironside- ND There

@Pat-MA I am extremely curious what it's like coaching basketball while being a white nationalist.

@Ellis The Salvation Army is a Christian denomination with thrift stores. They hire homeless and drug addicts to work truck.

@Deleted User Thanks much!

👍🏻

Two most important items I can think of. Lifestraw for water and a solar light with USB for phone charging. The latter worked wonders during hurricane!

@CuckTheKikes I would be happy to chat with you about it sometime. I do coach mostly white kids but have coached all races

does someone have the IE fitness discord channel?

@Deleted User get ahold of @alecK. I think he can get you in

https://discord.gg/4F6DTx

i gotchu fam

@Deleted User

oops lol

beat you to it

😃

Hey to @everyone what kind of trades would you recommend for our guys looking into trade school?

Electrical is in demand

HVAC is in heavy demand. Also welders.

Any trade is never a bad idea. I recommend electrical of the industrial nature. Tool and die , welding, pipe fitting hvac. Medical trades like X-ray tech and such are great too.

It is truly an employee's market right now in the maintenance field.

The boomers are retiring and due to the constant push for everyone to go to college there are not nearly enough skilled workers to replace them.

The ideal situation for a young man would be to find a company who will hire you and give you on the job training while paying you to go to school. I know that may be far fetched but it does happen. The only thing is you have to sign a no compete for 5 years or so.

As a young 19 year old I had that very opportunity but I pissed it away.

Lot of jobs like that paying for tech school as well

If I could do it over, I would try to be a machinist. I'm an electrician, and it's good work, and it takes a smart guy, but it's not so technical that the nogs can't do it.

@Deleted User Don't go to trade school.

I'm not.

Don't recommend it to people

If you're in a union state, talk to the union first.

If you're non-union, just get a job and they'll pay for your education

Usually

Know what's actually in pretty high demand in my area and pays well? Arborist tree-climber.

^^^

30K - 50K to start and doesn't require a ton of training

People don't understand that trees are living things, and they'll hire anyone with a saw to show up and ruin the aesthetic of their yard.

The big work in my area is clearing the tops around power lines, houses, etc

Power line workers

AC repair

Diesel mechanics

Line work is dangerous as hell. I think it's 1/100 mortality or something like that.

The wage is awesome, and you get all the overtime you could ever want, though

35 per 100,000

Not that bad

I have a friend who does it and loves it. Only took 6 months of training too

It's a lot of traveling though

All the trades need people. I run into people everyday looking for young guys to pick up the trades.
The problem is young guys don't want to work hard.

I went to school for machining. Worked at a machine shop writing programs doing set ups and tool changes on cnc machines for production use. Started out at 40k and loved it. Would probably still be there but I was stuck on 3rdshift with no sign of seeing first within 15 years. So I quit and became and automotive technician. Was very successful and was making over 60k after a couple years. I got to where I hated my job and spent my time off dreading going back in. So I quit and now I work on heavy equipment and like it for the most part because I travel all over the state and never do the same thing at the same place day to day

My dad was the superintendent of maintenance at Ford LAP for over 20 years and he always complained there weren't enough good tradesmen left.

Hey is anyone @here aware of any job leads. I have no experience other than basic electrical, plumbing and carpentry stuff from redoing some houses. In desperate need of a higher paying job.

I don't think it's just young people. Everyone now days want to be millionaires that party all the time and don't want to have to earn anything.

I did work in a restaurant for 3 years cooking and managed it for a year

Master a trade, become a leadman. Bullshit your way into something better. @JohnStrasser

Also a year at a bank and a year managing a grocery store Front End

@JohnStrasser Where are you located

@RevStench how do into that?

Nc but I am willing to go anywhere

Your managerial experience would almost garuntee you a job if you learned a skill

Let me ask around. I live in LI so if you ware willing to come here I may be able to help

@JohnStrasser prove your worth, the old school way, I out work people, I do the things most people won't.

@RevStench Thanks, modern education system for painting the trades as work for the Morlocks

For sure

@RevStench same here bro

Like @JesseJames everyone wants to be a millionaire

Everyone wants to be an Eloi

I don't meet a lot of plumbers these days, and the old guys I meet can't find anyone to train.

Kids now days think they can rap or do pranks on YouTube and become rich and famous. It's so easy why bother with learning anything.

Reeeeee

I know a couple plumbers one industrial and one residential both do well for themselves

@JesseJames It's a lot to do with their parents. My mom, to this day, nags me to go back to school, even though I'm worth more than half my cousins, despite being a decade younger than most of them.

Brainwashing the natives into thinking they're too good for skilled labor brought about the current immigration crisis' in the West

check your PM regarding job @JohnStrasser

Thanks guys

Seems basic 2 me...maybe not BUT can advise abt plumbing, gen appliance & HVAC, household fixin, pool chem/equip, workers' comp, dealing w landlords. I'm a Jack of Weird Mishmash. Much on youtube, but have in field insight/'secrets'. DM if want. Will help as can.

@John O - ya the older generations are to blame for a lot of bs if you ask me.

FUCKING BOOMERS

Remember that Socrates was a stone mason. And most of our founding fathers were either tradesmen or farmers.

Sense it relates to the convo the place I works puts people through trade school to get you're Lpn nursing. It's a 2 year contracts I'm thinking about do it next year.

FVTV get a 608 HVAC certification. It's fairly cheap and easy and it leads to a plethora of job opportunities

@JohnStrasser

Noted, thanks sir

That talk about the trades needing folks is absolutely true. Nearly all the unions are hurting

They're being essentially forced to take immigrants to stay viable

Work ethic has been diminishing since Gen X

But the boomers are only half right in their criticisms

The effort to pay ratio is often shit for most trades where you aren't your own boss.

As we say in the automotive field, you're getting paid to kiss but they're trying to fuck you.

@von Raudenbusch PA is the only state where I would ever do Union work. Every other Union state is full of the laziest pieces of shit.