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The best radicals are smart and dont show their hand, thus how we got here
Otherwise your autism shows
Our entire culture in this country was rather silently shifted the past 50 years without a fight
Boomers let us down
No Gott mitt uns?
Can't change/alter/destroy/remake system without people. Can't get people without looking good. I wish it wasn't true, but sadly the innawoods revolution or march isn't really until you've either won (or lost beyond all hope).
Tfw @Deleted User finds a different part of your comment problematic than you had expected...
I picked IE because an honest appraisal told me IE has the best chance of winning
Of all radical organizations
Deadass I had the thought of joining the Amish the other day if this ever gets beyond salvation. Shit looks fun
Good ol fashion arbeit and chill
Maybe, but you're far more valuable in all of this.
And given everything we know, we have a bit of a duty.
Normies are like scared animals, you have to lure them with something they like, not too slow, not too fast... you can't just run and grab them like they're mindless cattle, we have to win them over.
There's a reason why the Spergs accomplished nothing in the last 60-70 years
Which is why we fight
Just find a waifu and farm. buy land adjacent to other IE members.
@DickHead I don't understand this statement. WE are the radicals - or at least the ones with a winning strategy.
Do you wish to associate with people espousing violent rhetoric, or wearing masks? Perhaps you'd like to commune with bonified criminals. This sentiment really makes no sense to me, honestly. Can you articulate what you mean by this?
Excuse me eternal Anglo, they’re NPCs now
In our guidebook sub channel, the document for "Radicalism vs Self-indulgent extremism" is something everyone should read, heavily recommend it be read should someone need more clarification on rational radicalism vs destructive extremism
We’re radicals. But we’re intellectual radicals. We know the sentiment that your average “racist” exposes is more autonomous and arbitrary then calculated because they don’t have the intellectual bandwidth to state exactly what they mean and feel. It’s genuine none-the-less but it lacks the agility of a more nuanced approach, hence we’re here. What I’m concerned about is painting ourselves into a corner. We talk and talk and talk, refining beliefs as more evidence comes to light but we refuse action in a way that shutters any idea to stand and fight in any meaningful way. As the Intellectuals of the movement we can fight ideas with ideas but when violence is threatened we cower. I get what that other guy said about not showing your hand, but we’ve been dealt the racial poker equivalent of a royal flush and I think they should know the strength of the hand and what we’re capable of as so they aren’t so emboldened
Let the spergs do their thing, it makes us look even more palatable to the normies.
I’m saying we incorporate them. They’re useful and on our side and ostracizing them when everyone else is only divides and conquers
Violence will get us nowhere. Antifa is hated by all but the most extreme leftists, for good reason.
It takes unity if we’re going to survive this siege
We don't have to "ostracize" them, but we also don't need to directly associate with them.
See, that’s where your wrong. Even if it’s behind closed doors, we should all be working together
Actively talking to one another, educating one another
If we want to take on the intellectual role, that mean we have to take on the role of teacher too.
Patrick is right when he says we must become a new thing that future kids will LARP as. Let us not LARP ourselves.
And Mr. Wang Lin is also right when he says if one wants to be as or more effective than early 20th century movements, we must make a movement suited to *our* time, place, people, needs and opportunities. It is what they did. We can't cargo cult as them without understanding underlying social technology. Succesful movements were not repellent to their main target demographics. So we must be admirable to our people.
Well, there was a book written as a guideline for new movements, I’m sure some here have read it even
Rules for Radicals (our enemies playbook)
I agree, but the 1.0 types should come up to our level, not us come down to their level. With great success, people *WILL* imitate us, either by our methods, or by our optics. It only takes one bad person to ruin the face of an entire movement.
Right now, it's more important than ever to be cautious.
Yea, even with a right leaning govt, society is yet to catch up to us yet, so they would pressure govt to act against us.
I disagree. We have a president and almost now a Supreme Court that’s on our side
It might be time to make a stand
They are neocons mostly, they aren't /ourguys/
We’ve got white america
Openly collaborating with people who espouse values/behaviors which are detrimental to our movement is a good way to have ourselves lumped together with those types of people in the eyes of conservatives. We work very hard to maintain a certain image of well-adjusted people and it can easily be ruined if we let those with questionable optics affiliate with us.
Conservative =/= Identitarian
need more nonsense from the left, like drag queens reading to kids, to get more normies on our side
most people just don't get it still
As someone that sees everything as propaganda, we have the ammunition
Stockpiles of it even
Just need to weaponize it
remember, never make the mistake of assuming the public is as cognitive as yourself
Normies don't see it as "propaganda" though, they see it as what they are supposed to do or think or feel.
*Weaponize it* <:varg:359010745192808449>
But WE should be making propaganda
Our un-counterable rallies and connections are our propaganda, and it's very, very effective
Why isn’t it everywhere? Why aren’t we taking out radio time in small towns across the country?
We're a young movement with limited resources.
Then pool them
We post our content on twitter and youtube. That has much more reach and impact than a small-town radio station
What do you think dues are for? Ians tanning sessions? <:teehee:381917632359563264>
What are you honestly talking about? That is the purpose of membership dues - to gather resources for the purpose of growing our org
I'm the first guest of hour 2.
Neat. I’m just saying campuses aren’t the frontlines
Also, I perceive your tone as "We NEED to win right NOW!!!"
This is obviously not feasible.
We must lay the foundations, and become an organization worthy of our people.
It’s not a need
But we NEED to force their hand
Let’s see the cards, lay em on the table
We already do fam
So what, it’s all the media’s fault for memoryholing everything related to the movement?
I'm not seeing any serious proposals from you to do anything other than what we are already doing - besides hinting at collaborating with violent extremists, which we will never do - for obvious reasons.
Build the communities back from the ground up. Open white identitarian volunteerism
Education, where it’s needed, helping out all of our race that have been left behind
Why don’t we have that?
we do park cleanups and other volunteer work AFAIK...
Ok so? I clean the woods near my house during my free time?
If we're not 100% in control of the I.E Image, a plant could easily sneak in and cause some serious damage. Local charity is local and 100% controlled by *only* I.E
They don’t do it under a single banner
I understand being anxious and excited to advance the movement but you have to realize that we are fighting decades of conditioning that will take years, if not decades, to reverse @DickHead
So you think they’d attack ‘nazis’ as they call us for helping out in our communities under the statement that we’re helping all that POZ has left to rot?
Focus on growing the organization, big guy.
I think it’s time to standardize
**Walks in the door....**
"This group sucks"
"Why don't we do things this way"
"Why aren't you all immediately following me"
**IE members look around like....**
Ya know, didn’t mean to come off like that
@DickHead I would suggest you put your thoughts and energy into a more organized and written form and submit an activism proposal. Try to think of something that would move this organization forward and bring that plan into action
I know, I should, but working on a biomedical engineering degree takes its toll fam
And reading the latest poz takes the rest
You are already on here investing time into what comes off as complaining, though @DickHead
@DickHead Yes, they would 💯 attack us for cleaning up a community or a park, or helping grandma across the street because..."nahtzee".
There are people willing to help you with writing up proposals, message your coordinator or another member.
I’m just trying to get a gauge of what the attitude here is. Haven’t had much time to talk to you folks
And I like to argue. Gets the the ol noggin churnin
I am willing to help you foster ideas, have some free time on my hands right now. DM me whenever
*several people are typing*
Well despite whatever trials we have ahead of us, there has never in the decades and decades since the civil rights era, never been an organization like ours. We've weathered through the contraction of the alt right and emerged even when others have tried to destroy us. And now, we have more dues paying members, more patrons, more activism, and more events than at any point before.
Biomedical engineering eh? That sounds like perfect credentials to lead an Identitarian group to victory. 👌 If you are trying to impress anyone in this group with your <:galaxybrain:366743669484683264> you'll be disappointed we aren't too impressed.
Please stay civil
I said nothing "mean", just honest.
Not trying to brag, I’m a nerd way over my head
I don’t have time for anything besides posting posters at 1 am around campus
And keeping current with the news is enough, let alone IE drama/goingson
Okay well before IE there wasn't even a network like this you could be apart of.
doesn’t “how we poster” say to poster during the day? 🤔
@DickHead I want you to look around and tell me which group is doing more for this cause than we are
Here's the thing: whether endgame is politcal, or some degree otherwise, it will require a large degree of support and sympathy Identitarianism white well being doesn't yet have. So our primary job is, through activism, and the accumulation of quality members and resources, creating a POSITIVE feedback loop of awakening, positive images, and increassd support.
I’m up in the sauna anyway
IE drama? I must have missed that.
I’m being facetious. Overall what’s what and who’s who here
But no, I’m here ‘cause you’re the best shot
IE has the best stock projections out of any other org
Degeneracy was gradual, positive progress will take even longer, you can’t just go outside and riot
I don't see what the issue is then.
not to be that guy again, but I think there’s something about not shitposting excessively in # general
IE is probably the most rounded, well thought out organization that doesn’t let itself get compromised by idiots
It's always fun to think 1000 steps ahead for what we plan to do or where we plan to be someday. But genuine success comes through understanding the smaller steps required to get there. The fact we have so many well-adjusted and high agency people in IE should be very telling of the kind of people our ideas attract and how stable our ideas are for moving forward.
what's the adage? "great societies plant trees whose shade they'll never enjoy?"
Rome seemed like they planted a few and got a couple years of shade out of them before they croaked tho...
"A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in." - Greek proverb
Yeah, I'm not doing this for myself, I'm doing it for future generations.
i'm doing this for my 6 year old daughter
All about the kids
and her future children
that reminds me of this, very wholesome:
This was the quote that inspired me to really get into everything
What's the concesus on the Patriot Front guys? Just curious.
Honestly, voting should be revoked for anyone that doesn’t have kids
We all have our faults, I'm a much more refined person since joining I.E, but sowing civil discourse among the organisation isn't very advantageous. We are pretty much the last fighting chance of saving European Americans, there is no room for failure, or non-sensical risk taking.
I know PF guys personally, and they tend to be a bit violent and impulsive
@DickHead Anybody who isn't a net taxpayer shouldn't be allowed to vote
Voting should be revoked for most people in general lol
Only Cels can vote.
One of their slogans was "Resurrection through insurrection" @The Morrígan
So, how’s everyone’s friday?
good. Learned my first bit of R today, so I can basically hack elections now
Neat tho, I can’t code to save my life
I made a chart 😊
wouldn't BME require some coding though?
Alllll in matlab
quick reminder to make sure everyone is registered to vote in their local elections
can we have a gang weed react
We live in a society, after all.
*Alex is removed from IE*
Side note, why is general push to talk?
Kinda inconveniences is with good mics
Otherwise everyone would be hot mic ing.
because usually it's just one or a few people talking about news and updates
We don’t have a lounge to just sit around and chat?
I can change the permissions if you'd like.
I mean, itd be appreciated, but I don’t see any folk on rn
an open voice chat could be useful for people to hop on if they need to coordinate something real quick
but that might be more useful for regional servers
Well don't get too fixated on discord.
You should get on the North Atlantic Slack server. @Alex Kolchak - NY
Tru, but anyone else here just talk with buddies on servers? Thinkin more like a place for idiots to get together and talk about idiot things.. kinda like what normal people do
actually I have a question if you don't mind, I'll dm you
Sometimes, but most are at work or class at this hour.
Yeah I know, I heard you’re swapping thing up
tbh hot mic-ing is my favorite part of the fireside chats.
patrick is just a bonus
I hot mic'd in 2 of the last 2 official chats I've been in.
Got issues with background noise imma guess...
Best Obama strikes again, folks https://twitter.com/ObamaMalik/status/1043195047674609664
@Max Bianco - NY BAIST Kenya back with another sizzlin'-hot take...
how the fuck do you reply
To a specific message?
Huh, well thats a little gay
man faith goldy is a babe
She’s married to a white guy I believe
@YourFundamentalTheorum i have no idea I was just looking at that video above and commenting
Hot micing is forgivable. Ice chewing, however...
No, the guy she allegedly cheated on is white
yea thats cringe but it still doesn't make her not a babe
you know what would make her even hotter? if she didn't sound like canuck, eh?
whatcha talking aboot
nothing wrong with that ^
I'd put my ballot in that ballot box any day
doubt she has a chance
She doesn't and I don't think she thinks she'll win
yea she doesn't stand a chance
The election was about making a political statement, I don't think she thought there was a serious chance she could win.
yeah she's not even in the debate with the top 4 candidates
***Rosenstein***. 👃🏻 Every. Single. Time.
When you think about it. Its almost a good thing trump had all these jews in his inner circle
He's basically exposing them for who they really are in plain public view
like its almost a 4D chess move or something
with all the #Metoo people being exclusively jews and then all the jews screwing over trump
its pretty hard to ignore
According to TRS, an unironic total of 1,488 adolescent squats have gone missing after being detained 😑
Lol blue check marks were sperging out about that number on twitter yesterday
Yeah it was awesome the far left ones were all saying that it’s evidence of Nazis and fascists within the Drumpf administration and couldn’t have been a coincidence
I've gotta tell you man just that number showing up from the administration is really going to escalate the leftists
That Streisand effect is oh, so tasty... 😋
lol dude check this out
look at 9:49
he elongated his nose with photoshop
you can see it on the cover photo too a little bit
oh thats hilarious
And how are we all enjoying the clown world train today IE?
All that matters is that it's Friday night 😎