"if you lose, you win" Trudeau II school of strategy 🇨🇦

Literally not what anyone's even implying @Wood-Ape - OK/MN

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN that’s totally what I said.

<@!539613785674088449> are you in the right voice chat?

This debate rn

*wakes up one day in 2040, sees demographic clock for whites has hit 49.99%*
“THATS IT ITS OVER, PACK IT UP.”

When is it okay to oppose replacement?

Always.

@DeusVolk Being in California, how many rapes and mutilations do you have to stave off every day?

Maybe Chris should think about starting

Being a minority-majority state after all

@ThisIsChris just had to fend off a band of raiders with a water noddle.

It took a few decades for South Africa to get where it is after apartheid.

Brown on white crime isn't real, everyone

Heard it here

@DeusVolk Fallout: California 2019

Bruh

I think this whole discussion's getting REALLY heated, maybe everyone should just chill

Nobody is saying your concerns for our people aren’t valid and coming from a sincere place, @Wood-Ape - OK/MN . What I’m saying, and I’m sure others agree, is that your perspective on what we can do is very narrow and self-limiting.

It will take decades to instill the proper foundations for us to oppose our replacement, and we likely will not hit the zenith of operating power until we are close to (or more likely) at minority status.

...and I know this one's kind of late, but it was neither military conflict nor economic sanctions that brought down Rhodesia and South Africa. Rhodesia was lost, because the Afrikaners, still understandably chafed from 250+ years of struggle with the Brits, saw Rhodesia as an intra-British issue, and naively thought they could feed them to the new emerging order in exchange for the integrity of their own hides. South Africa, on the other hand, fell due to Anglo-enabled Jewish financial machinations, coupled with increasing metapolitical activity, first at the universities, then on the radio, and the coup de grace came with the introduction of TV in 1975, which, given the people behind it, made 1994 an inevitability.

I don't get how caring about being outnumbered while demonized and burdened (recipe for oppression or extermination) is limiting, or what the alternative is

@ThisIsChris Because I don't want to live in a country where I only feel at home in one little zone. And honestly even 90% sucks.

Good evening all

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN when did I say you shouldn’t care about being outnumbered, or said so for myself?

To be clear, I don't disagree with @DeusVolk that we're not screwed the second it hits 49.99%

@DeusVolk not you, chris

Brazilian whites do okay for themselves at 46%. I'm just saying being a powerful minority shouldn't be an end goal.

We're screwed before then. Look how close 2016 was. You think Republicans can stop californication in 2030 with blue Texas?

The red elephants, did a great video on that topic recently I'll post a link

Once Texas is goes blue, then it's over politically.

The Mossad-Americans aren't screwed and they're only 2%. There's far more to this problem than the numbers game. Either way, it's not that simple.

The what Americans

https://youtu.be/iRqdeFfXjQk

There seems to be a misunderstanding here that accepting our eventual minority status implies we cannot or should not fight it.

They're part of the anti west coalition. The one that keeps growing.

@Jacob of course, but if you're not going hard at 56, you can't combat it at 40 to stop it going to 15 and then 5

ya

Its whites vs everyone else. No one is voting on our side. Republican/ Democrat dichotomy is Pro west/anti west.

even so the political situation isn't really salvageable anymore, it'll take nearly the entire political class replaced with our guys to fix the government

Money as we know it will never be something average whites have more of than Asians and Jews. Ever.

we need to begin taking as many lower position political spots as possible

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN being racially and financially conscious is all those groups have over Whites at the moment, imo

I think we're creating kind of a dichotomy here where there doesn't need to be one. We *could* do okay for ourselves as a minority, but we should have a better ideal to strive for rather than saying it's inevitable and we should just pack it all up right now.

people start running for Sheriff, City Council, School Boards

Grab your tribe and hold on. This ride is going to get bumpy, and its doesnt end.

So that is why people power matters more than pretending we can beat Jews at the game they invented.

"Uh-uh, I want off this ride!"

@Jacob it being inevitable =/= pack it all up. It means have a multi phase plan that doesn’t fall apart the second we become a minority.

And we're just talking about the national level. Not even addressing Africans set to quadruple in numbers by the end of the century. Something they couldn't have done without our subsidy.

I never said pack it up. In fact my whole point is that Chris is too nonchalant

I am not a defeatist in any way regarding our struggle, but I am a realist. And this is going to get real.

Darwin predicted some races would die out, he didnt predict whites would kill themselves.

I know most here probably don't believe this, but South African Whites aren't lost. They're going to have a country again.

@DeusVolk I don't disagree with that. We should prepare for the less than ideal options, I'm just responding to the idea that demographics are unimportant.

I think everyone here needs to work out, learn useful skills, and just prepare for the worst

@Bjorn - MD but they shouldn't have anything to worry about what does it matter that they're 8%, right? [/sarcasm]

Will South Africa have a civil war?

@Bogl - CA Did he?

<:galaxybrain:366743669484683264> @Logan

Yes @ExternalPepsi

@Jacob I agree that the demographics are important. I don’t recall Chris saying we should disregard them entirely, more so we need to think beyond them.

His second book

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN That's not what @DeusVolk's saying. He said it's gonna get real, as in, really bad things are going to happen. Unfortunately, though, no small amount of that is already baked into the cake.

I do at least, know many skills as a guide. I am broke as a joke because I picked my career when I was an anti-racist nihilist who didn't care about anything beyond the next trail, and I am unmarried because I believed the feminist lie that women don't care about a man's money... but at least I can live innawoods with the best of them.

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN More of our members should be that way tbh

Now just working on losing the belly

@Bjorn - MD
Agreed.

We're in this for the long haul.

As members of IE, we should be prepared as leaders of our communities and families if things get "bumpy"

Yeah effectively whatever "bad stuff" we can allude to here in the chat is baked into the cake. Vox Day (no laff plz) is pretty spot on when he says that there have been no movements of peoples that haven't been accompanied by conflict at some point or another.

The ~200K Visigoths sacked Rome 40 years after being admitted as refugees, but the Arabs occupied all of Spain except Astoria to the north for 700 years until they were expelled.

I think we need an IDEAL. Maybe like “HONORING OUR ANCESTORS ”.... our history. Our blood and soil.

So we on that 40-700 year timeline famalam

Blut und ehre

Patrick's current model is probably the best way to go tbh. Advocate against demographic change, but also build social capital that we can use when the time comes.

Lol @Smitty83

Balance in all things, gents.

@SuperTomPerry -RI 💪

Scientology is an interesting example of how powerful social capital can be. They're universally hated, yet still untouchable.

Lol

I like Slack !

😦

Boo rocky

Slack is kool too, I like both

Slack is professional

@Jacob is right. We need to become Scientologists

@Jacob yes scientologists are an eexample of a tiny minority that works well

There's, of course, some unsavory stuff about Scientology that shouldn't be emulated, but in some ways they're effective

These guys control entire local governments

Yeah the amazing thing is how they still exist comfortably even after the Snow White thing

Surely they have to have MAJOR financial backers

So will we 😉

it would be better if it was 100%

nothing

Ismailis (Shia muslims who follow the Aga Khan) are a pretty tight knit group too

Did someone say Jobs ?

If we do a good job building social capital we could actually make it *profitable* to be part of IE

hahah @V.Balboa - PA Was that your comment?

Imagine have employment networks, lawyers, etc

Nope lol

@Nota Bene - NY

^^ I'm surprised 😃

Leadership knows how I think 😃

Kazakhs were only a third of Kazakstan at one point, and Malays were barely a majority in their country. Both groups have restored themselves to a supermajority without too much strife.

@V.Balboa - PA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAsFWPNtMMU

Hhahahaha

Im cool

I'm glad the talks blew over, I thought IE was about to go through it's first civil war<:nervous:359009898115104770>

>first

twelve

Many arguments have been had

Goodnight IE 😴

Lmao first

@Nico The Great - CA we are just beginning the Kazakhstan posting. Bear down.

Go to more meet ups !

@DixieBoy76 - KY Night!

Steppe poasting is my favorite

@Nemets more people should know this. Can you put this prominently in your book?

Sam is everywhere and no where

👋

Good night all

👏🏻 YEAH NORTH ATLANTIC YEAH

@Ryan1298-PA Take it easy big guy

Dang it I always miss North Atlantic meeting

@Nemets how are Chuvash doing?

Apparently they're 68% of Chuvashia

which is about what we are in the US

but idk if that's only counting non-Hispanic Chuvash or not

Bruh
https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1101163194557571072?s=19

Holy fug

As if

Send a monster to fight one. Just like an old Godzilla movie

They gotta make room for Kushner, lol

President of the US, PM of Israel

Wow (about Netanyahu). Wonder if this'll cost him his office, though, or if it'll be like when Clinton was "impeached" ("Sorry, not sorry).

So the real question is if Bibi goes down what sort of lvl 50 boss is lined up to take power?

because that's how mafia works

Start shilling for a lesbian Ethiopia-Jew

There has to be one

Good evening fam

going to bed

@Logan https://twitter.com/PyotrNemets/status/1099787498031480838

Looks like the Netanyahu indictments are pending a hearing, they're pulling all stops to delay the release of any of said indictments, conviction seems unlikely, and he's still favored to win the upcoming election, possibly even if indicted, and will remain in office unless actually convicted. That's how secure in power an ethnonationalist head of government can be in a demographically and metapolitically sound country.

>tfw the dems maybe could get Trump on Israeli collusion, but don't dare

Mhmm.

Lock him up, Tulsi!

Everybody could get everybody on Israeli collusion.

Imagine actually being faced with the choice of whether or not to sacrifice Trump in exchange for bringing Jewish power into the sunlight... <:nervous:359009898115104770>

I would.

It'd be a tuffy...

I’d do it

But Pence might go back to doing even more for them.

Ilhan Omar 2028! Make your president an inbred bulbhead (again??)

(sarcasm)

It's an easy conclusion at which to arrive logically. Sentimentality would be the only source of hesitation, but then again, that's one of the many reasons why they win.

They will discard their own if need be. Weinstein, Franken.

Yep, though even then, they never allow their own to be dealt with by the likes of us. They do it in-house.

Y’all see the Latino dem candidate for 2020? Baracko Obamez

"Vote for me senior."

He looks familiar?🤔

Bleach and go as Barry H Dunham

el hope-o and el change-o

Watching the movie “Brannigan” and London is entirely white<:sad:366743316475281408>

Ay mang, boat por mi, I gib You California to Mexico again

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/432014-ex-maine-gop-governor-says-white-people-wont-get-anything-to-say-if

Our governor lol

nice

If there is anything that urks me the most, it's people who call fascists, "far left Communists" and Communists, "extreme right fascists."
Like, oof <:nervous:359009898115104770>

I think both communists and fascists serve the purposes of the far left establishment. The former as foot soldier and the latter as boogeyman

Slav Right !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nueXd-fAyY

@ThisIsChris sound like duginist talking points my man

@V.Balboa - PA hmm I don't know much (anything) about Dugin, why do you say that?

@The Eternal Anglo I agree it's an incredibly annoying boomerism

Because He always talking about the two being connected @ThisIsChris

@V.Balboa - PA thanks. Yeah could be. Seems to me fascists in the USA are people who watch too much TV and say "I wanna be the bad guy!"

@ThisIsChris interesting take... I suppose Identirarianism is our replacement for the cucked conservative establishment, and Hollywood NS?

@StevePines -WA vI think the excitement over the Netanyahu indictment aren’t seeing the big picture. The guy running against him is more globalist than Bibi

I call them Hollywood Nazis but I see your point. @ThisIsChris

yeah I agree Too many people grow up on junk History Channel Doc's about a European political government ......That I will not namr in this server

@The Eternal Anglo yeah we are building something that is our own. Cucked conservatives and NS are like you say products of establishment and Hollywood.

Horseshoe theory is the worst thing Hayek ever came up with

@fire.within - FL still funny tho

I agree. I still can’t stand Bibi

But I think they’re going after him because he played nice with trump.

Totally can get on board with that. I think us transitioning from an activist org to **the** meta-political org is awesome, smart, and very much red pilled

Isn't Bibi Netanyahu /our Israeli Prime Minister/?

Quick Poll Which is your Favorite Gundum series ?

@V.Balboa - PA Oppa Gundam Style

I'd prefer if there was *no* Israeli prime minister tbh

@Jacob more into constitutional republics instead of parliamentary democracies, eh?

@ThisIsChris mine is M.S.G 0083

to be completely honest, I think that Israel is always going to take advantage of us

I, of course, would support a peaceful solution to this

I personally support Israel as a state that should exist, I don't support everything Israelis do though.

They can be a state I just want no diplomatic relationship with them outside of basic responsibilities

oh I don't want them to exist tbh

https://youtu.be/wNRIyd-qPOk

I don't mean that in an edgy way. There's plenty of states that don't exist.

I love poker vids

imagine Israeli collusion even being considered a thing by MSM

>Russian Collusion: 100k in facebook ads, talked to someone who worked for Trump one time
Non-stop media storm
>Israeli Collusion: 34 congressmen, thousands of dual citizens with security clearances, stolen nuclear secrets, 50 billion in aid annually, strongest lobby in USA, 100M's spent on lobbying, openly sell USA foreign policy
*crickets*

<:whitepill:439924104406106113> Red Ice just broke 300k subscribers. <:whitepill:439924104406106113>

@V.Balboa - PA Tucker needs to bring LePage onto his show.

Yeah that Would be Awesome

Congratulations to Redice

@ThisIsChris what are the pros and cons of parliamentary vs presidential republics?

@Jacob well a prime minister is elected by the parliamentarians of their party

Parliaments are gay

That’s the difference

So from a giving the populus a shot perspective, Presidential republics give them a possible counterweight to the legislature

Kinda like how Trump is independent of the legislature... Kinda

Parliamentary systems tend to be more responsive, and it's easier to create and successfully advance third (and fourth, and fifth) parties, but as a consequence, they're also less stable.

(Coalitions constantly coming together, then disintegrating with the next crisis and/or election).

Oh boy

Yeah this could lead to some form of ethics probe on Trump. How sweet would it be if Trump gets impeached because of Kushner.

what disturbing me the most about this is that for Kushner to help the Saudis get nukes means that the Saudi royal family is firmly in Israeli control

@Sam Anderson Live by the $ew.. impeached by the $ew.

I doubt this will result in anything tho

Just some ethics folks in the WH are gonna whine but if it is not the victory the Left wants it will not happen.

Rough

https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1101195764246679552

😂 👍

Looking fresh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdOMJilxkNY

😡

CPAC? Huh, more like Zfap, amirite guise?

https://youtu.be/odS5KOhLCBA lol She nails it perfectly! I don't always get a chance ro watch her stuff but she always has valid points,nice Blonde in the Belly of the Beast!😆😋

She's cool, I like her.

AOC is queen

nah kidding

She seems to be the ruler of lots of people's headspace

but she really does live rent free and all conservative's heads. She's a literal boogyman

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN yeah dude 100%

@StormySeaShore Owe me a coke

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I got you

AOC looks uncannily like a browner version of strongk Jedi lady from nu star wars

teeth, face, build

Rey, the britbong

Lol

AOC is cute.

I’m out with two German guys and am talking up Generation Identity to them <:teehee:381917632359563264>

Literally this

AOC ?

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<:really:453005408064241674>

Bruh moment

Hi Albo