@Current Ronin sarcastically or really?

No I am actually listening to it haha

I found it cause of this youtube channel called defunct. About how certain corporations and mergers just fell apart

Anyone familiar with David icke’s reptoid theory?

The craziest conspiracy theory I believe is that Chuck E. Cheese reuses their pizza

😂 very woke

I'd get in trouble if I mentioned what conspiracy theories I believe in 😳

White people WERE genetically engineered by ancient Kang Yakub, and here's why that's a good thing.

@NITRODUBS wtf haha no way

Look it up it has a lot of traction right now lmao

Dude Shane Dawson bringing the heat haha

There's a meme conspiracy theory that wind turbines are fake and are actually using electricity via generators. I love it.

Shane? I only know based Amerindian, Asian-GF having Ryan Dawson

Shane Dawson is a youtuber that just released an hour and a half long conspiracy video

That's how I found out about the mattress firm conspiracy

Matress Firm?

I'm partial to the theory that both Finland and North Dakota are fake

Yeah dude. There's a ton of mattress firm stores and no one is ever in them...but there's like 3 within a few blocks from each other all of the country in various towns haha

And that the Denver Airport is the international headquarters of the Illuminati

But I drove through ND...

🤔

...did you?

<:nervous:359009898115104770>

People say 911 happened but I've never been to new York so

What's the mattress firm one?

And yeah the Denver airport is very bizarre. They have that super creepy artwork

And a huge statue of a fire-breathing, red-eyed horse that actually killed its creator

There's this rubber stamp shop near where my parents live that I *never* see anyone inside

it's supposedly still a functioning business because they post updated notices on the door

That's pretty spooky

I have literally never seen anyone actually use it

and I lived in that area for years

I feel like that's a thing you just buy on amazon. Like there's absolutely no need a for a dedicated store for rubber stamps

exactly

*Choosing Amazon over local shops* reeeeee

But really though who needs a rubber stamp shop

Oh you will hate me I love convenience haha

That's not the only weird thing though. It's not just that no one has any need for a rubber stamp shop, it's that they're supposedly still in business but *I literally never see anyone inside it*.

Hear me out...amazon, but nationalized....

"Oh hell yeah America (TM) just delivered my vacuum cleaner and my groceries by drone!"

Could be good or a nightmare depending on who is running the nation

For sure

Not to boomer post, but amazon run like the post office would be half as convenient and twice as retarded

@Sam Anderson ...yep

Oh awesome amazon brought my diabetes robot!

@Right Bauer Amazon runs the post office now.

Why do you think they deliver on Sundays?

I had a really funny red pill moment with my dad recently. I was telling him how America is just a huge shopping mall and is kind of a joke and without skipping a beat he was like "you know...yeah. Yeah it is"

Just an economic interest zone at this point

Our identity is whether you're a Pepsi or a Coke person

With open borders and international free market might as well just sell the whole population into slavery.

E. Michael Jones says "the big gay disco and the military to expand it"

No offense to service men. We all know the difference between soldiers and the MI complex.

Yeah that's what's a huge bummer is I respect military people a lot cause I definitely don't wanna do that haha so god bless them

The only time I get emotional watching a movie is when it's a war movie where soldiers are doing really heroic stuff.

I'm just like *sniff* hell yeah dude...

Like we have the best military in the world and some of the most dedicated troops, but of all places to go waste blood and treasure for 15 years, Afghanistan?

My dad literally said America is a country for everyone 😩

gross

Going back to the conspiracy theory subject

There’s people who think that the atomic bomb is a hoax

I was watching a war documentary on that war ( I think the one on the Korengal Valley) and the troops said they say they get ambushed next to where shell casings are from when the British Empire was.

@DixieBoy76 - KY It *would* solve a lot of problems if that were true. Wishful thinking

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN That would be my guess.

People just like to *believe* in conspiracy theories

most people who believe in conspiracy theories just think conspiracy theories are fun and find ways to justify them after the fact

It doesn’t matter how silly. It often times consumes them. This is how I view the people who blame literally everything on the Jews. Like, yes. I get it, Jews have a disproportionate representation in certain fields. We all agree on that. But to say that they’re some superhuman race that controls the strings on every major world event is simply *wishful thinking*. Why do I say wishful thinking? Because for them, it gives them an excuse to believe that this isn’t somehow our own fault too.

I mean, imagine how society would change (both for worse and better) if there was someway to prove that the world couldn't be destroyed, or that certain nations weren't practically invincible. Borders would start changing all over the place.

I think cold war nuke fear is a big part of the nihilism of Boomers & X'er s. Climate Change has supplanted / supplemented that nihilism for Millenials and Zoomers

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN That’s a fascinating way to look at it. Never thought about it that way. I’m sure it’s a variety of reasons, but that’s a factor I’m sure.

A lot of baby boomers do seem very apathetic. But I think that it’s for a variety of reasons. However, your hypothesis does seem to be confirmed by the fact that a lot of boomers are mentally trapped in the age of the Cold War.

seriously though has anyone's parents said something worse than "this country belongs to no one, it's for everyone"?

@Jacob Not really, but I do pity you. Keep your chin up.

haha I just don't bother trying to debate politics with him

Maybe go the Jared Taylor route and just try to agree on small things like the “press 1 for English”. I mentioned that to my mom and it started off a really good dialogue.

oh I'm sure my dad loves being able to choose different languages on the phone

As much as leftists get made fun of for the “dialogue” meme, dialogue is important.

I agree with what Mr Taylor said, but with my parents in particular there's literally no point

I have nothing to gain from trying with them

there's always going to be some people that you just can't convert

I think that overall debating isn’t something that should be done between family members. That’s how I was raised anyway.

We focus on loving one another and strengthening our bonds and just enjoying being related. Or that’s what I try to do.

I don't really have an opinion on that because my only "family members" are my parents

And we don't really get along for non-political reasons

I’m sorry to hear that brother. I’ll pray for y’all.

Thanks

And if you ever need anything feel free to reach out fam. We’re a big family here.

So do you just not discuss politics with your family, or is *debating* in particular that you're against?

Debating in particular

Ah. My dad has too much of an emotional barrier to have a discussion about any of these ideas without it becoming an argument. My mom has the same emotional barrier, but she does occasionally ask questions in good faith, even though she'd never switch sides.

That’s fair. I think with most people it’s the emotional barrier that makes it difficult.

🐄 Just exercised my White Anglo-Saxon privilege by downing a glass of milk, boys. 🥛

Well, most people have an emotional barrier just because of social pressure, which can be broken with time. But my parents are literally immigrants so have fun convincing them that immigration is bad lmao

I've been talking to my mom about this for 6 months or so, and she really is starting to see clearly. She was more neoconservative before, but she is much more identitarian now

@Jordan - MD that’s great. My mom has been slowly coming to the identitarian viewpoint too. I really regret my “alt right” phase though. It was really cringe.

PS Check out your DMs.

18 days until L.O.P.F 2019

I have a pretty broad scope of what the alt right is and I see no particular issue with them. I just think it's best that people proceed forward with praising and promoting the proper things that help our cause rather than denigrating and disapproving of the things they don't like. If you notice in movements like pro-choice and pro-life, both groups want to be Pro something and neither wish to be against anything. It is better for optics if an organization is, for example, promoting awareness for European culture and Heritage, and are not doing so in conjunction with denigrating another culture or race overtly, at least optically, in my opinion, it's a lot more effective. @DixieBoy76 - KY

@Jordan - MD Part of the problem was exactly that "alt right" is too broad. Nobody even knew what it meant, it was everything from MAGApedes, to WNs, to Neo-Nazis. Having a precise label like "identitarian" keeps your movement from losing focus

I absolutely agree. It cuts through all the clutter

Right down to the bare bones of it most of us agree on this *one thing*, save for a few magapedes. This movement is clearly the proper direction forward

Plus I think of all magapedes as reachable

White identity isn’t a trademark of Richard Spencer the idea that anyone on the right who doesn’t agree with neocons has to use his term is inherently stupid

@unclefesterr that is a good and level headed take.

Maybe a rebranding as “Identity Columbia” or simply “Identity America” would better serve our interests. Canada managed it with “Identity Canada”.

some of your parents sound fun

Just my thought

must be nice to have parents who at least somewhat agree with you politically

I watch Tucker with my dad

Is anyone a reader of Dr Greg Johnson counter-currents ?

I've found that right wing family members generally tolerate identitarianism, though not from personal experience, my family doesn't know what I do lol

@DixieBoy76 - KY I'll admit that identity Columbia sounds really cool but unfortunately I feel like it would be lost on most people. Most people are unaware that DC even stands for District of Columbia. They would probably think it was a foreign Lobby group to be honest with you, identity evropa speaks to Our Roots as Europeans, I think it's rather effective. And no matter what we change our name to they're going to label us supremacists regardless.

Columbia is the female representation of America

@V.Balboa - PA Counter Currents is great

Identity Columbia is essentially the same thing as identity evropa

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN God I can't imagine watching Tucker with my dad

Yeah im a huge fan of the Webzine @Jacob

"Identity Columbia" sounds like "Identity Venezuela"

I watched a video asserting that Tucker Carlson held certain identitarian values, it had some excellent points in it. I actually like the guy.

Fair enough.

@Jacob we would get bantzed with that title for sure. Juan Valdez and Sofia Vergara

Well, Identity America then. With Columbia aesthetics

The people you’d be bringing in with that name would have a hard time coming to meet ups

The freedom cap is aesthetic as heck

Considering they’re mostly bones at this point

If that

@Kingfish Rip

my dad is orange man bad whenever stocks go down and orange man good whenever they go up

@Jacob My dad is awesome. I love him.

I love my dad to death. My family is first and foremost in my life.

@DixieBoy76 - KY Then you have the problem of South and Central America

401KNat

They do not come from Europe as we do

@Jordan - MD I don’t think anyone will misunderstand “Identity America”

might as well call it "Identity Nicaragua"

Canadians created “Identity Canada” which was a direct ripoff of us acrually

But Canada is inherently European, America isn't.

Because of South and Central America,

So the only other alternative would be identity United States

problem with "Identity America" is it sounds civnat

@Jacob that too

I can't wait for AmRen 2019

Can’t have that can we

You'd constantly have people applying and being like "oh I thought this was the MAGA meetup"

identity United States doesn't sound quite as cool as identity Evropa

And a lot would stay

Vnited States*

it would just tie up the interview system

Identity Castiza GF

We should be called “The evropean American dissident metapolitical movement setting out to stop the great replacement”

This tbh^

Lol

AKA the "TEADMMSOTSTGR"

“Identity Patrick Casey”

Yikes

In all seriousness having a massive influx of MAGA people discovering it’s okay to have our ideas and many of them signing on is not exactly a problem imo

I have only been a member for six months but we have this convo every ten days

Canada is only European in that they have many actual Europeans there. Demographically they’re far worse than us.

😑

@DeusVolk getting worse quicker too

@Kingfish most magapedes would be receptive to someone like Jared Taylor. It just has to be framed properly. These people are ready to not feel guilty anymore.

@DeusVolk Canada is absolutely the more European of the two of us

Ever been to Canada? You’d think it was New New Delhi

We are by far way less “European”

Quebec is still very white

In their culture, politics, and economics

we'd get people applying who aren't ready to join and we'd just have to reject

either that, or we start accepting civnats and having heated arguments every day in general

You can tell because they’re really gay

PEACEFUL LEGAL annexation of the prairie provinces may be what saves them from Hongcouver and Ontariostan

@Jacob yeah we don't need that at all

That would be a power move.

A very hypothetical power move.

Maybe, maybe not

You wouldn’t have constant fights if there wasn’t a general chat to fight in @Jacob

Dat's bad.

Alberta and Saskatchewan prepared US Statehood referendums in the 90s contingent on if Quebec had succeeded in their independence referendum

I mean I guess if we just stop members from taking to each other lol

People wanting to change IE to IA be like “how else can we water down this org and avoid the original message of ‘we’re here and we’re white’”

Or be like “how can we actually attract the down trodden white middle Americans who have no idea what an evropa is “

Not gonna work like tha

Why not lmao

You’ll just lose your real support

Don’t throw away what you have, it is special.

uh oh this bout to get heated

Sure special, and fringe

Honestly I don't mind the lack of appeal to the average person right now, because what we are receiving are the people who are brave enough to continue the process while the organization is being slammed as such.

"Western Identity?"

If we want to attract the actual heart of the American people who sided with trump in 2016 we need a little bit more than esoteric metapolitical references

You won’t magically become not fringe by watering down.

You’ll just have less of an “it” factor

this tbh^

@Nemets blacks kick up obesity and teen pregnancy in the south

Watering down and adjusting rhetoric are two totally different things

It really doesn’t have to be one or the other

@Nemets What is the obesity rate for nonhispanic whites?

Our rhetoric is extremely tame though

A fedora shitLib meme is to mock the religious south for teen moms, clap back by saying "adjust for race"

I was looking at some chart for obesity a little while ago and blacks are 75-80% in some states

@Nemets nowhere is great

>Non hispanic asians

Our rhetoric is only tame when viewed in comparison to extremists. When viewed from the perspective of the political spectrum overall, what we say is quite dissident.

Dissident, and obscure

?

Our recent actions are a shift in a great direction imo

@Reinhard Wolff yes I agree with that. But it's not violent or hateful so I don't believe it justifies being adjusted so far that we lose our core message

I see a good trajectory going forward

CDC Data

National Association for the Advocacy for White People (NAAWP)

"naaaahp"

lol

As long as IE and its successors are all white membership and advocates explicitly for white well being, I don't care if we are called the Dinosaur Laser Brigade

"thicc" is a cope. change my mind

Latinas stay winning

Nemets: always has the data ready to go.

Obesity is really bad in Kentucky. Poor Dixie land.

California whites are generally pretty slim.

@V.Balboa - PA I'm currently reading The White Nationalist Manifesto by him. It's a great little book.

I want to start exercising more, I'm going to join a 24 hour gym soon.

@Dale Adams yes Im reading it as well I can't wait for his new book "Toward a new Nationalism "

I wish there was some other kind of fitness metric that we had data on, BMI doesn't work at all if you lift and I've been counted overweight before by it while looking fine.

Im still waiting for my Hardcover copy of White nationalist manifesto

@Nemets Look at the Midwest. America is so fat because of the German influence. I'm making German Red Cabbage rn, and it called for like a half cup of sugar

@nord Since most people don't lift, BMI is still a decent metric for tracking obesity. Not so good for individuals putting on muscle tho

@John O - German food is very hearty. It is NOT healthy to eat every day.

@John O - NW European food in general is pretty unhealthy, look at the British

@Papa Pizzagate cabbage is healthy every day

Then why aren't the Germans as fat as us?

@⚡Clark⚡ not when the recipe calls for 1 part sugar, 6 parts cabbage

@John O - thats rotkuhl, super sugary

😭

@Hakujin - CA they are pretty fat

Ian confirmed Redditor

Not huge

@Jacob https://twitter.com/OriginalYoni/status/1097109553529917440

oh I saw it on Reddit lol

I know a lot of people *really* hate Reddit

Krauts are kinda chunky. But their culture and cities/towns are much more setup for walking, unlike America.

Reddit is honestly not that bad if you stick to very specific communities

this tbh

Reddit is bad if you’re going their political shit

Need some feedback. I want to create an antifa psyop twitter account, thinking of calling it ANTIFACINEMA. Should I do it?

literally better than 4chan

I use Reddit every day there’s good content

@FACINEMA No.

;_;

Every hobby or interest has a reasonable sub with inspiration and skill education too

It’s a good website for finding new shit to get into

Salt Lake City is so set up for walking @Papa Pizzagate

Xxl sidewalks, not shirts

I found a subreddit once all about do it yourself tutorials from the 70s it was awesome

It’s for all their kids.