the key to getting those sweet reacts is being a fem in a mgtow posting hour

jealous of the ksa react

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We monarchygang posting?

Ahh, here's the convo I was hoping for. Good to see some red pill aware guys in here

Eh I wouldn’t say ban all voting. I’d say, let prominent land owners, employers, etc vote

Voting is okay in aristocracy. Bicameral monarchies function just like corporations. Corporations are basically the most efficient form of government discovered by darwinian selection.

One vote per child would be cool.

Ehhhh I wouldn’t really think that

Or one vote for every ten cows

A lot of crappy idiots with 384928473 kids

1 vote per nuclear family as defined per 1950's Americana Standards. TM

R we having the voting in the ethnostate conversation again

Votes should be tied to physical artifacts that are hidden around the world. Only men of courage and adventure can secure them

I think the modern equivalent to only letting Cavalry vote is only ltting pilots who own their own planes vote

one vote per child would quickly spiral out of control

the only people who have more than 10 kids are probably a bit crazy

Land holders is the most sensible way

A yearly strongman competition where the winner is crowned sovereign ruler would probably work better than our current democracy

My favorite non-serious idea is to have a volunteer Battle Royale in the Yukon where the winners are the only ones allowed to run for office

the family I know with 14 kids is Pentecostal I think
not that extreme, but once you get into those kinds of numbers, you're gonna be getting into some pretty weird religions

I know three families with over 10 children and they're all pretty great

I mean I'm pretty good friends with this family
but I'm not sure if I'd trust their parents controlling government

great people to hang out with does not equal trusting them with the political system

Pilots are great trustees because you already trust them with your life

if we have a breeder state we should commit to it
your number of votes = the square of your number of children
1 child = 1 vote
14 children = 196 votes

Your friends with all the kids would probably be better than Cheeto man

well, probably not because they're literally immigrants

Better than college kids 18 to 26

Can't say I'm a fan of immigrants

Controversial opinions from dairymaxx

This is a pro amnesty server

@Perihelion - CA ehhhh I don't know about that

Err... Just return voting to what it was before the 19th amendment.

It’s not that hard of a solution, guys.

Some rando woman in Utah told us we’re all immigrants tho

Sometimes I think we overthink things here.

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the issue with a lot of fundamentalist religious groups is that a lot of them are so obsessed with the afterlife that they don't really care about politics
so even if we ignore that people with massive families are disproportionately immigrants, you're still gonna get a lot of weird fundamentalist religious groups with disproportionate power

I would comment but it would violate the religion rule. 😃

you can DM it to me

Half the time I'm here

I love our constitutional republic, thank you very much. @Grenadier

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I'm pretty tolerant with regards to how pro or anti religion you are

I don't really care

I'm sympathetic to religious people who think this world don't matter, I don't want them making important decisions that effect us all though.

Good luck convincing anyone to adopt a monarchy @Grenadier

We’re supposed to be appealing to *normal* people not spergs lol

The only people I know who support monarchy only do so ironically to be edgy

I'm not quite sure where you figured me to be a monarchist.

Yeah, false dichotomy

Sorry, I thought I’d read that you were a monarchist.

Apologies.

We shouldn’t be voting for the senate anymore

What are you? @Grenadier

Repeal the 16th

monarchy is horrible tbh

I am a monarchist ama

I'd take pretty much anything over monarchy

Nothing in particular. There's merits and problems with every system.

Fair assessment

@Papa Pizzagate actually tho

But I think that each people is suited to its own government, and that the natural inclination of the American as a separate and unique European people is the constitutional republic.

I'm pretty sympathetic to some ideas.

No system of government works with multiculturalism. None.

I mean

really strong authoritarianism kinda works with multiculturalism

So to blame our system and throw the baby out with the bathwater is kind of silly.

@Jacob Yeah but Austro-Hungarian empire

I mean, it was our laughably easily subverted system that pretty much did this.

Easily subverted?

ya lol

I would say our political system is pretty well dumpstered at this point.

Our government was *made* to avoid subversion though

there's a lot the founders couldn't foresee so it's not really their fault

but I mean you gotta admit it wasn't that hard to subvert

Maybe they didn’t do a good enough job I guess

I can make a boat that's not supposed to sink, but I can still fuck it up and have it sink.

I tend to idolize them so I’m probably blinded by that

There’s just straight dirty tricks going on like brown vs board and roe v wade were based on lies

They were good men, changing times require changing systems and precautions they could not have forseen.

any system where politicans can use immigration to bring in new voters is easily subverted tbh

Yeah just put stuff in place to prevent that

same with any system where judges can just kinda strike stuff down because "lol I didn't like it"

There was stuff in place to prevent that.

It was stripped away.

The realist in me says: it happened it was subverted easier than a lot of countries therefore it was easier to subvert than other systems

I think we weren’t the easiest just the first target

Everything else fell after we did

Ohhh

Yeah

But idk

I mean idk

I'm sure Europe was targeted for a really long time

What else is based on a lie......the entire equality under the law thing was reinterpreted to mean the inverse

I think Weimar had America pretty well beat in the subversion game for some time.

The US was partly an easier target due to the fact the "nation of immigrants" narrative is really strong here

to be honest I think Americans are inherently more pro-immigration than Europeans

even right now if you look at public opinion surveys in Western Europe they're not actually all that pro-immigration

@Jacob. Anarchotyranny seems to be working well for multiculturalism. 👌

I commend France that they’re (peacefully) protesting their government

That is our original downfall

Shining city on a hill

That damned Statue of Liberty poem

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=93U54gprVQA

Who are you referring to?

youre not wrong i just think our national myths were subverted so we couldnt fight back against that

It’s weird because the government was subverted first and then the culture

Because the culture even up until 1965 was still very much race realist

oh yeah in terms of muslims but im thinking earlier than that

in the latter part of the 20th century and this century so far

the phrase all men are created equal was subverted by abolitionists and anti-segregationists

as much as im against slavery

If we already paid for the conference who do we ask to get on the Slack server? I've been busy and have not checked in.

@Matthias ^

Had a great time at a Sportsman show with some members today.

IdentitARYANS

Turn on my Netflix and what do you know?

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https://www.amren.com/podcasts/2019/02/lawmakers-were-all-but-paralyzed/

Excellent podcast

They talk about child rearing

And building communities

Another classic Louis pose up there 💯

for real.

@⚡Clark⚡ Don't get in the habit of using that phrase or spelling.

Lots of baggage.

Were you guys Opie and Anthony fans?

The president of the United States called Opie and Anthony slobs over the phone. That's hilarious

The president of the United States said he has never ever had a cold in his life on their show

Literally... said he has never had a cold

And Kim Jung-Un never poops

Well yeah everyone knows that come on

I think the god-emperor meme has gotten to his head

I never listened to opie and Anthony, but I feel like I have listening to so many good stories about their show.

maybe hes been sick but hasnt been a cold lol. maybe its very literal

i wouldn’t put it past the guy

I want to believe that it's true. He's never been sick

https://youtu.be/MYcOOKbI6fc

@Evan this is anthony's show now and it's really good. Actual right wing comedy

And before ant got banned from Twitter he followed red ice so I think he's totally woke

I’m a couple minutes in, this pretty good.

whaaaa cumia followed redice damn i gotta check him out more

Yeah crazy right

who is Cumia?

@Jacob anthony cumia used to have a huge radio show in NYC. It was called Opie and Anthony and they were shock jocks. Back when you could actually be edgy

he was fired by SiriusXM for BS about "hate" towards a black lady

Haha yeah I remember that. He got attacked by some female diversity and got fired for tweeting about it

ah okay thanks

I guess him following Red Ice is pretty big then

since I imagine this guy has a significant following

Gavin created the proud boys on anthony's network

he is right wing Howard Stern

Honestly if we could get a few celebrities to come out and support us that would be huge. Even if they're celebrities for entirely apolitical reasons. Scientology uses celebrity support as one of their strategies and they have massive soft power.

Another fun fact is chris cantwell and the trs guys were huge Opie and anthony fans and modeled there shows after o and a

God his wikipedia pictures look nothing like him now

skinny af

i didnt know he was skinny

Dude that would be rad to get one of our guys on anthony's show. Ant is turbo free speech

Get allsup on there that would be huge

Mr. Taylor has been on with Gavin twice. but being on Anthony now would be huge

this actually should happen....

get Patrick on

Dude gavin had spencer and sam hyde on his show when gav was on ants network

Gavin is how I found out about spencer

getting James on shows would be a great idea

not as an IE member though

Dude hell yeah. Get James on the anthony cumia show. That would be yuge

just have him do his thing and then "oh I like this guy, wait what's this Identity Evropa thing he's part of?"

what's good about James is he catches people off guard

James presentation is great

people don't know he's an identitarian until they already like him enough to look into him

How do we make this happen haha

well, or if they're hardcore lefties

the horseshoe theory of knowing who James is

I am totally in favor of this

Last time we hung out he was telling us about how conservatives who watch his content are totally oblivious to the fact that he's pushing identitarianism. Only the far left and far right notices.

Haha that's pretty funny

He has charisma for sure

ya definitely

lmao when we were in the grocery store and he was making small talk with the black cashier 😂

Haha that's great!

black lady cashier seemed really into him

Exactly what we should be doing. We're great people

And everyone likes us cause were cool

ohhh James has a crush

James is married

yes and has a kid as i understand it

nah kid hasn't been born yet

ah one of his recent videos he said "wife and kid"

she must be pregnant just recently

well, I don't know how much he's comfortable with the public knowing, so I'll just leave it at that

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totally

why is everyone suddenly having babies?

was there an actual increase, or did everyone I know just decide to have babies at the same time?

i just noticed the front desk receptionist at work is 8 months along bc she sits behind the desk all day and ive rarely if ever seen her not behind that desk

I still don't understand how these polls fluctuate so much

do people seriously change their political views every week?

different people polled?

that can't be it if the sample sizes are decent

I mean ya it's different people getting polled but the samples are supposed to be representative

I don't know. There have been quite a few things that have changed my perspective since getting involved in politics. I mean during the shut down I strongly approved of Trump. Now I actually wouldn't mind if he got impeached.

lol disapproval of Trump is gonna come strong from his left and right now more than before how wacky is that

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I got an email today from a local rep. It was a poll. I deleted it without a second thought.

These things can’t be accurate.

@Der Seeteufel - SD I guess, but for these polls to fluctuate that much people would have to be changing their entire belief system ever week

@Evan the ones that politicians send you aren't actually polls

it's just an excuse to beg for money from you

Yeah, but how’s the response any different. It’s pretty much the same format right. Maybe they’ll do a phone call instead.

I wonder if there’s a better way to poll

well, it's different because politicians just send out polls to people they already know support them

actual polling companies try to get a representative sample of likely voters based on demographics or whatever

I think that's how it works

That may be one way

I got this this from someone I have never heard of and from the Democratic Party.

probably got your email from somewhere and thought you were a likely supporter for whatever reason

They basically wanted to know if I supported the wall

I get "polls" from Trump all the time

It's actually all a lot faker than you think. Polls are used as much to shape opinions as they are used to determine opinions. It's classic bandwagon psychology.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_experiments

your representative probably thought you're unlikely to support the wall, sent you a poll so you could say you don't, and then be like "oh haha what a coincidence I don't either you should give me money" @Evan

@Der Seeteufel - SD you’re probably right

@Jacob 😂 e begging at its worst

if you're bored, sign up for DCCC emails

I get them in my spam and sometimes check them for fun

it's even worse begging

they'll send fundraising emails with subject lines like "ALL HOPE IS LOST"

and the body is just pleading for money

it's incredibly pathetic

Urgent! Send money!

What is their deal. They even have their own tumblr for all those pathetic emails.

I’ve always wanted to be on one of the dem texts lists. The ones that send the zombies out to protest something they know nothing about.

German polls seem to be decent at predicting election results, although they seem to underestimate AfD. AfD falling from an all-time high of 18.5 to 13% seems significant.

I think the true intentions of the AFD have come into question.

I can’t really say, I’ve just picked that up peripherally

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1094035813820784640

gang gang

Lol. Whut?

@Evan How so?

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Haha wow