Fellas we should start an Identitarian streaming channel. Stuff like heelturn and *scoffs* goytalk/ vanguard streaming have been getting decent numbers

And Stefan was kind of right when he said we should create our own platforms

That’d be dope @NateDahl76

Something fun but good enough optics to share

Totally

Will literally do it and make sh*t content if others don’t want to host 😂

I respect anyone that can put out content every day. I just don't have that many things to say even though I've got the radio voice haha

Haha nice

I definitely don’t have the radio voice

I’m a good researcher and I have a deep enough voice

Currently going through a job search campaign so I’m busy too busy to do it now

Nice

However, talk is only just talk. Action is everything

Vanguard is wignat, right?

Does Vanguard still exist?

Vanguard America has been dead for coming up on a year. I’m talking about a streaming channel on youtube. And yeah, they’re kind of alt- right revanchists. Same with Heelturn.

Two different "Vanguards" may be being discussed here

"Red Letter Media" is implicit. If only they lifted weights and drank less. Their health can't be good.

At least Mike Stoklasa seems like he has a hidden pro-white sentiment

wait when did Vanguard America officially die?

I remember Patriot Front splitting from them

It wasn’t publicly official, but all of their activity, including online, ceased in February 2018. By that point, they were basically Neo Nazis.

There's also National Vanguard, a group created by former National Alliance members

Oh brother

Very productive and worthwhile organization I'm sure.

I believe they have a newspaper, but they don’t do much

They did a mailer a month or two ago. And oh, the membership org is still called National Alliance. They’re on no ones radars, it’s like a ghost

@sigruna14 dude look at the Wikipedia page, it's baaaad

No thanks, tragedy isn't my favorite genre.

why do people feel the need to create all these meme groups?

Self indulgence

Ideally there's always a couple around to keep those types away from us.

And ideally, they are known enough for the retards to find them, but not well known enough for the average person to know about them.

@Jacob Very simple
1: These groups are convinced every other group is compromised
2: ego. The leaders all want to be the leader of what they hope is revolution

leadership is never very fun

rewarding though

This isn't some modern aberration. It's natural. There were multiple factions in countries in similar situations throughout recorded history.

no I totally get multiple factions

but some of these groups aren't really "factions", they're just yet another group of 20 guys that do the exact same thing as another group

I have a hard time blaming them. Its easy now that we're here in an org like IE but I was as lost as any of us were a couple years ago

idk I have a pretty easy time blaming people who start redundant groups

I don't necessarily blame 1.0 guys who joined because that's what was available at a time

but I do blame guys who started yet another 1.0 group

yeah, at this point in time i agree

Any recommended books on nature vs nurture

@NateDahl76 I've been thinking about the content for that.
Third positionism with a zero-immigration platform is sufficiently radical to draw a following. We could basically just rehash Ship of Fools for an hour twice a week ad infinitum but without Tucker's anti-racism "moral" backstop.

maybe The Blank Slate by Steven Pinker @DaddyPaddy - FL

you should ask this on the literature server

@NateDahl76 no, National Alliance and National Vanguard are separate groups right now

National Alliance isn't just the membership wing of National Vanguard

It kept existing, but some members split away and created another group

but I mean they're both irrelevant now

National Alliance, didn't they kinda fall apart after Dr. P died?

yes

I know a guy who used to be part of it

he said it sucks now

I heard it's like 20 guys

I don't think it was ever anything big

But imo it always sucked, and I’m sure you guys would agree

before my time i suppose

no filter with Dr. P

Dr. P is kinda creepy to listen too

They were exterminationist natsocs bud

But their revenue was definitely the most impressive part about them

I don't that's actually true

from my understanding, The Turner Diaries wasn't supposed to be a manual

it was literally a novel

and Pierce actually didn't like the kind of music that Resistance Records put out, he just bought it to make money off of it

I don’t think either of us know enough about it to talk about it, but they easily violate our extremist rule imo

I was going to say, maybe we should avoid the topics of wignat groups and 1.0 stuff. It looks bad. Even to me, that whole convo was kind of cringe.

@NateDahl76 I personally disagree that discussing a historical group violates that rule, but if it's a touchy subject then I can move on

Imagine a new pledge joins the general chat and that’s the first thing he sees

🚔

@DixieBoy76 - KY Us discussing a group in historical context? IDK I don't think it's that much of an issue but I mean I'll defer to leadership

Those groups are irrelevant to us. As it stated in the rules or info I forget which, our job is to do what we do best. Act like those other groups don’t exist.

I’m not telling you what to do. I’m just telling you how it can be perceived.

I have literally no authority lol

I don't think we should act like they didn't exist. We should learn from the mistakes of the past and ask ourselves what drew people into such groups.

Even Patrick discussed National Alliance on a fireside once

But that’s a different situation imo.

What's going on in KY @DixieBoy76 - KY

@Valaska Well we just did an action in Covington

@Jacob Hey isnt Poland super cool?

I didn’t attend I’m trying to take things slow

I literally just joined

What action went down?

Put up some fliers and such

Nice, welcome aboard

Has your coordinator vetted you yet?

What country is Kentucky in?

Yes

I just need an in-person interview next

I’ve already been vetted twice and I got accepted on the spot in my first interview

@NateDahl76

Good stuff, thought you would do well

@MrDefault uhhhh I guess

It’s really draining

Is there any way to save a right wing friend with an Asian GF? He hates communism and the deep state, is annoyed with LGBT & Islam, is not an Israel-firster, he even believes in IQ heredity... but he's "buying in" to the new overclass as a self interest move.

This guy is a big deal and would be a much more valuable IE member than me if brought over.

I know enough not to try to get between them. But she is the obstacle. Waifu meme kills the Evropa dream?

I see it as the opposite; we have the opportunity to reclaim what it means to be American. It’s all on us and that motivates me. @DixieBoy76 - KY

Yeah I enjoy normalizing white advocacy and natural order

The greater the vacuum the more room for us to maneuver.

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN just nudge, and be the best example of our ideology that you can. I have a friend that's all the way there, but he has a non white gf. If he didn't, I would have no issue disclosing my membership with him. He probably knows who we are

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Sounds like an issue of Will. He needs to be motivated to assert himself against our civilizational opposition.

@NateDahl76 he knows my stance on mostly everything. I have shared Tucker and Lana (Red Ice) videos with him before I learned about his GF.

@DeusVolk He is a hard worker and a brilliant man. He has achieved success. But always passive in personal interactions.

It is good he is CivNat, as those are rare in his sector. IE would greatly benefit from his connections and resources though.

Industriousness can be separate from spiritual will.

And he could learn to be more assertive from our members as well.

@DeusVolk very true

Perhaps he would benefit from being around some of your fellow members and seeing what that fire looks like.

He lives in NYC

He is a busy guy with little social life.

Another way he could benefit from IE

He isn't autistic. Just meek. He is a pleasant conversationalist, stylish and groomed. He hikes when he can.

I hear ya. That final push might have to be something social.

It's something you feel when you see it.

Yeah. Maybe I could visit him up there and if the local chapter approved it we could meet with some of them. Maybe in the spring. Hopefully no (Hapa) pregnancy occurs before then.

Sounds like the best he could do is donate, anyway. I wouldn’t worry about it too much

Yeah he wouldn't do face activism. But networking, resources (for IE) and brotherhood (for him).

Miscegenators aren’t allowed into IE.

I decided last year not to invite them into my home or go to their weddings. I don't want my kids thinking that's normal or okay.

Why'd my message get deleted?

No

what in the hell

imagine believing that last line

Thernovich has never heard of certain Afghan cultural practices, it seems

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I think the Taliban were actually putting an end to that shit

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I hope they ban a lot more here.

I've pretty much accepted ethno accelerationism.

The world changes only when normal, everyday whites, start to feel the pinch.

@DixieBoy76 - KY Looks like they just banned it from the board meetings

Just board meetings?

Yeah, article doesn't mention anywhere else

I think Thernovitch misspelled Judaism.

Wrong Abrahamic religion dude.

Cernovich has an Iranian spouse, which is influencing his opinion.

@Bogl - CA
re: acceleration, if there isn't awakening and results in solidarity action, it isn't 'acceleration,' it is 'losing.' Never know how it shakes out until it does.

Honestly I think we all have a tendency to lean towards the worst at times

When we spend so much time in this and we see it every day and absorb so much it seems daunting and doomed at times

A fresh step back can do wonders for the spirit

Hello everyone

Hello

Theres still 14 million whites in CA. The more anti white laws, rules, and policies that get made, and the more they conflate "white nationalism" with nationalism and patriotism, the more whites become aware of their collective identity and interests.

Ultimately anti whiteness unites whites, just as anti semitism unites Jews.

I think you’ll see whites really start getting politically active and moving when they don’t have the trump safety net

When they can’t say “it’s okay trump is president”

When their wallets start feeling lighter and they feel far less safe

That sense of insecurity in every sense of the word drives action

Is cernovich unironically advocating for white sharia?

spergmode/10

Whats up @Ryan -NJ

@V.Balboa - PA Being excellent as usual. And you?

Just Fine

Feeling fine

Our cause is missing economic uncertainty. Most Americans are still woefully unaware and unprepared for the next economic recession/depression on the horizon

I 100% agree. I think the defining characteristic of this movement going forward is where we (the American right wing populist movement) throw their hat economically

Personally I think the tucker Carlson talking points will not only gain support from conservative working class Americans but even sway some of the disgruntled blue dog Democrats and Bernie supporters cheated by the DNC

I just hope that Tucker doesn't get Fired before that happens

Bernie getting screwed put me onto Trump so it could work

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN that isn't True Islam (TM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LugZZ8jdHE0 Would this be a White Pill ?

Millions...lol I hope so

@Bogl - CA some different white collar people I know said they've seen a sudden increase in East Asian and Indian appear recently. Not sure if a white pill for the displacement of Mexicans and Guatemalans who destroy the neighborhoods or a grey pill for me.

In my area, that is to say.

East Asians are naturally going to rise quickly to upper middle class due to their intelligence and work ethic. Also immigrant specific small business loans give them a good boost from Gen 1, allowing Gen 2 to do quite well.

@V.Balboa - PA Imagine thinking Shaun King and/or BLM weren't going to be corrupt from the beginning.

@Asatru Artist - MD true

I used to think blacks committed more violent crime and whites committed more white collar crime lol

They do don't they?

@VinceChaos IIRC in the 2017 FBI Crime Stats, Blacks committed more murders on a net level than Whites. This is even with Whites including White Hispanics and Arabs ect.

As per usual I prayed over my copy of table 43A so if I'm wrong that'd be a big woops

13%

No shit

I meant the white collar part

I used to take a balanced position

“Oh blacks commit more violent crime and whites commit more white collar crime”

I wasnt clear tho

Thought that’d be assumed

There's one finical crime where black commit more than whites iirc

The Chinese do the most gambling I know that

@fgtveassassin only one,

Also this ties into a big think I was doing this morning, FBI stats only track arrests, in places like chicago, detroit, etc a lot of murders go unsolved, like a lot more than you'd think, so its probably more like 56+% of murders

?*

Blacks are arrested more for gambling than whites

Yeah I keep that in mind when feminists talk about unsolved rape stats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYfWXz20Qso&t=14s
90's Kids Rise Up !

In 30 years, California's population grew by 10 million, while its white population shrunk by 3 million.

Dont let California happen to your state friends.

So I took a step in making my own twitter. My first tweet: https://twitter.com/traditionallion/status/1090029160444108801?s=21

Wow Im off of twitter

Is that wow meaning that I shouldn’t have created a Twitter?

@V.Balboa - PA

no

Wow in the sense that Im glad you made a Twitter

Hot take: we should all be on twitter

Japanese supreme court upheld law that requires transgenders to be sterilized.

@fgtveassassin I say a table 43 rosary every day

I think the left does a good job of creating fear in the right through a means of villainizing us. Making it hard for us to make a way in our lives. I think it’s essential for us to have a warrior mindset, “so what? You know who I am, where I live?”

We cant even call then the wrong pronouns.

Check out @DrDavidDuke’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/DrDavidDuke/status/1089902991212249088?s=09

Looked at my government professors twitter and she was RTing Kamala Harris and AOC

AOC is a commie

And the sky is blue

I feel like if I could’ve made a haiku with that.

I wouldn't critic-size Jordan Peterson if you know what I know about him

What’s that?

The anti-BDS bill just passed the senate 74-19. Harris and Booker didn't vote, guess they didn't want to upset the donors

Who voted against

Funny how our hyper partisan senate can suddenly come together in a wonderful show of bipartisanship only when military spending, israel shilling, and higher levels of immigration are on the line

Wow

No votes: Baldwin, Brown, Carper, Durbin, Feinstein, Gillibrand, Heinrich, Hirono, Kaine, Leahy, Merkley, Murphy, Peters, Reed, Sanders, Shaheen, Udall, Van Hollen, Warren

So at least a few Dems have a spine on the issue

Not a single GOP no vote

So for those keeping track, the only Dem candidates to vote no are Sanders and Gillibrand.

Feinstein?

Agreeing with the left on Israel for the wrong reasons

Feinstein isn't that pro-Israel. She's no Schumer

And to her credit she's always at least given lip service to first amendment concerns, which this bill was

Funny how all the GOP senators who make a big fuss about the first amendment are perfectly cool with censoring people on the basis of their political views when Israel comes up. Feel free to ask guys like Cruz and Cotton how they rationalize that one

@V.Balboa - PA do tell please

only at the national conference @Wood-Ape - OK/MN

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That’s concerning lol @V.Balboa - PA

He's just real careful about showing what he knows

Never reveal your true power level

When he is and he isnt Our guy all at the same time just to give you guys a clue

Double agent for the machine

Lol

That was a good video @hbutzer0511

I'd be interested in hearing that info too considering Peterson is seemingly a complete cuck

@ExternalPepsi Well he's not a "Cuck"

Thanks

No problem

Did anyone else see the account Barry Obama follows lol

On Twitter

What’s that

@V.Balboa - PA yes he is

No way in hell is Peterson our guy

If white identity is your thing, which i assume it is, he's already spoken out against you.

Peterson almost kept me from looking into white identity

I was listening to him back in 2016 and he kept saying not to go there

but I eventually decided to just try listening to Jared Taylor etc anyway

^He literally boasts about turning people away from white identity

@ExternalPepsi exactly

Sure, he pwns the libs. But so does Ben Shapiro.

It doesn't make them our guys. Not at all.

Obama is following a gay sex toy company account on Twitter lol

If only we could get him on our side lmao

A very powerful man and people don’t even realize it