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@Deleted User I found out that aside from Anatolia, the oldest proto-writing can be found in Spain.
Spain and Anatolia are also places where henge and then Celtic culture popped up. One big highway through the alps until the Seljuks or whoever it was brought enrichment.
Maybe you was Celtic kings
it's time to gentrify detroit
Which campus?
@Lawrence of Eurabia
Also, it wouldnโt let me DM you.
Montana State University, Bozeman MT. Not the Billings campus @Reinhard Wolff also I just sent a friend request to you if you need to DM me
@Logan great article, I liked how it talked about people dying their hair blonde. The same thing is happening today
I just like pretending that I'm 100% one specific ethnicity
I'm probably not, but it's fun to tell myself that
<:whitepill:439924104406106113> Molyneux retweeted Lauren Rose yesterday ๐
a DNA test would either (1) tell me what I already know or (2) disappoint me
@Bjorn - MD wtf
@Goose We should consider filling shrinking black cities with large populations of white people. That includes places like Detroit, Michigan, and Dayton, Ohio. Turn them back into the cities they were 60 years ago by filling the abandoned houses with young white families.
Check this one out... https://twitter.com/stefanmolyneux/status/1083432167743475712?s=21
@Dan - NY Yeah ๐คก
@Bjorn - MD @ Because thatโs something you can โnormalizeโ ๐
I hear ya.
This American Sun publication is pretty dope, I liked this https://theamericansun.com/2019/01/09/cloak-in-woke-woke-capital-as-a-strategy/
Ben ShaJewro pledging to donate to Steve Kingโs primary challenger and demands that King be censured and primaried
@Bjorn - MD Lauren Rose should be in I.E and could be a great spokeswoman. She's top tier normal-Nationalism and has never had a THOTish patreon.
@Sam Southern - TN King 2018 was the first politician I donated to since Bernie in 2015 lmao. Life is strange.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN She could be, but I think she may be trending a bit too Fuentes-esque.
@Bjorn - MD she does indulge a bit into unhelpful anti-Paganism like he does.
Pagan/Christian peace gang
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN @Bjorn - MD she came close to joining. Shes in touch with TRS people atm
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I haven't really seen her engage in much Pagan-bashing; maybe once. It's more just the fact that I'm not sure how keen she would be about being in a secular organization.
Patrick and Sam are wonderful spokespeople. Not to cuck to feminism, but if IE has female members and wants more, then a public female figure seems needed.
@Campbell4732 Very cool ๐
G.I. Has whatshername on videos with Sellner (not Pettibone, the actual G.I. gal)
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I agree, though. Prominent female personalities would be unambiguously positive.
between the Allsup situation and now King, the GOP is about to undergo a major shift towards the left
it'll be worse than the splintering that happened in 2016
the never-trumpers need to be exiled from the party
@Goose Is that good or bad in your opinon?
I wouldn't advocate it for anyone who wasn't already out there face-wise
@Bjorn - MD
@Goose Yeah, it's lookin' rough.
> implying having a Patreon is a bad thing
Never Trumpers are taking over.
Romney is marshalling them
@Nico The Great - CA bad, because i don't want it to happen.
good, because of the acceleration.
i think everyone is tired of the games and want people to be honest about what they want.
one of the biggest things about trump imo has been his truthfulness and up-front attitude
@Jacob You'll never get those Lauren Southern bucks back. ๐ซ
Look if "thots" like Lauren Southern are spreading our ideas I'm all for it. I wouldn't personally donate, since I think she makes more than enough, but I don't really see the issue in someone making money while making our views more popular.
@Goose Totally agreed!
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Maybe not until we're a bit more economically secure, though it might be somewhat easier for homemakers or girls/women from wealthy backgrounds, for whom it'll never really be a concern.
Only positives come from the dems splitting into colored Socialists + centrist corporatist Dems and repubs splitting into Nationalists and centrist corporatists Rโs. Bring on the splitting honestly
i'm to the point where i think we need to build our own youthful, nationalist, working-class party
@Jacob Nah Southern is fine, her Farm Murder awareness raising is very good. I am just saying when it comes to gals, no patreon > patreon
@Jacob I'm pretty much with you on that. I think what vexes alot of people is just the fact that she's extremely fake in her personality. That doesn't effect her political usefulness though
No one can accuse Lauren Rose of being in it for money, because Lauren Rose did not have a way to collect it
@Goose So... LIke a traditionalist labor party...? ๐
not to be that guy, but we should be addressing the talking points that affect the next generation of voters.
we can keep the boomers as long as we defend social security
"no patreon > patreon"
nah screw that
If spreading these views becomes profitable, it can only help us. Ultimately, I don't care if people are getting rich off of it as long as the ideas are spreading.
@Sam Southern - TN A four way race could be good if both left and right split
the GOP could easily get the youth vote if they were in favor of erasing student debt.
afterall, who is the debt owed to?
universities should be defunded anyway
@Nico The Great - CA Whether her personality is real or not, I honestly don't know, and, ultimately, I don't really care as long as our ideas spread
@Jacob Agreed
@Jacob I am saying for credibility's sake. Which would be important for an IE advocate
People need to make money. I'm not gonna hold that against them lol. I'm not in this movement for financial motivations, but if I could monetize it and still help, I'd do it in a second.
@Goose I'd basically agree with you on that, but only because universities are absolute garbage anyway, and just serve to push propaganda. I'm not a socialist, nor am I really economically left wing at all, but yeah...public universities are trash
Again we're talking past eachother. You don't think cute girls taking money from mostly male audience at least has a *hint* of suspicion that, all things being equal, is best avoided in someone recruited for belief, respectability and conviction?
If our tax dollars are funding satanic propaganda outlets, I see no problem with removing our debt to those said institutions
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Good point
All programs but STEM should be defunded. History and music are great, but the market is flooded, we have enough, and most of them are anti-white anyway
lol bad autocorrect
I mean, sure, I guess if someone makes money off a political cause there's always a *chance* they're in it for money
Viktor Orban cancelled SJW majors. True hero.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Yeah, my AMERICAN HISTORY class talked about black slavery the ENTIRE semester. We never covered any material that was actually in the textbook lol
but with that kind of paranoia we'll end up long knifing anyone who doesn't live in a basement
@Jacob Also good point
Weeks 1-4 Amerindians
Week 4-10 Slavery
Weeks 11-13 WW2
Weeks 13-18 Civil Rights
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Sounds about right for every history class I ever took my entire life lol
I took a cultural studies class and it was kinda fun
definitely very biased
I'm pretty sure there was an actual Black Panther who would chat wiht my professor before every class lol. He wasn't even a student, he just showed up and talked wiht the teacher all the time
but still a lot of legitimate concepts
and I never got downgraded for disagreeing with the teacher
I mean, I dropped out of college specifically because of the anti-white/anti-Christian propaganda I was force-fed everyday
wow
I donโt think the issue is that binary.
There is room for us, especially those of like mind, to entrench ourselves into academia.
Those institutions are arguably even more valuable than government in terms of social change. Hyper focusing on STEM or encouraging white youth to avoid college altogether doesnโt solve anything.
I don't know if I could have handled 3 extra years at UW
I ended up transferring for reasons unrelated to politics
@DeusVolk I think there's truth to that, but I've also read studies that less Americans are going to college and instead choosing trade schools. If people start giving up on college altogether, it could weaken its power on social dogma
but if I stayed, it would have sucked
I want to be a college history teacher for the reason of teaching people stuff that isn't garbage
if you have the temper to go through the system, definitely go for it
@Lawrence - TX Of course, the only good history teacher I ever had was an extremely patriotic white American. Big surprise there lol
@DeusVolk You'd be right if I honestly believed a straight white man could get social science Tenure anymore. It is (and has always been) a personal and factional process.
If someone has the honest drive to be an academic and can hide their power level, I say go for it. Otherwise, why waste the time when more secure and profitable paths exist?
Reflecting upon history should be a hobby for men who also create it.
Not totally (but somewhat) our girl Aydin Paladin on youTube has great videos on social science from a right wing perspective
She got doxxed as a professor. Rough.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I agree the situation as it is does not look optimistic for us, but that assumes this position will remain static. I can see a future where there is a void that only highly educated, articulate white men can fill with regard to education. Iโd rather not cede that ground.
what is "not totally our girl"?
that sounds like a pretty big spectrum
They are relishing our demise.
@Jacob Bisexual, has dated blacks, perhaps half Jewish(citation needed on that last one)? But in the AntiGlobalist Trump Wing Patrick is telling us to affiliate with
uhhhhhh
eh idk
@DeusVolk Destruction of the occupied universities' monopoly on credentialism would help white men with alternative but even mlre useful training rise to the challenge.
@Jacob You don't know what?
I mean, sure, I agree with Patrick that we should be associating with moderates. We shouldn't be shunning people who are useful to us.
I am not approving of Aydin's past, just saying she is pro free speech, anti-immigration and globalism, pro-2A, woke to Race Realism and the JQ. That's enough for "kind of but not really"
She is engaged to a white guy now apparently.
okay well once you put it that way she doesn't sound that bad
Her channel is legit good. She was my stop in between Styx and Red Ice on the red pill train
oh I had more of a red pill rocket so I can't really relate
I was actually just thinking about this today. My transition makes me feel really optimistic about younger people. Occasionally I hear them say something disappointing, but I have to remind myself that when I was their age, I literally thought Black Lives Matter was good.
I think our people should pursue whatever theyโre best at, almost any career can be used to advance our movement
@Jacob I voted for Clinton November 2016, read Jack Donovan (yeah gay I know) January 2017, and April 2017 lived in a little house alone for a month while working on a farm, engaging with increasingly identity-adjacent ideas nightly. By August I was making the "very fine people" argument to my friends.
fact: fewer men are going to college and are instead going to trade schools.
we will hit a point and when next generation of champagne socialists are broke with no power, while white working-class men are making good money but being taxed into poverty
meanwhile, establishment figures on the left and right will chapion big corps with free labor.
we need a revival
Multi-faceted approaches. Some people in the support network make as much money as possible, some pursue cultural influence, some go near Amish/Orania-tier of withdrawal from the system as lifeboat. All connected and helping eachother.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Wow, you're story is pretty crazy ha ha. I didn't get "red-pilled" that quickly, but it's good to have you in IE
Play to win it all, but Cultural Independence of Amish with the education and nepotism level of Jews is a Plan B
Sometimes I discuss politics with my friends' younger siblings and they've been making progress. Not to long ago they all thought cheeto blumpf was stoopid and now they're saying that the wall should be built. I wish they'd go full on identitarian, but they're waaaay better than I was at that age.
@Nico The Great - CA I was a guest on the IE podcast a while back as the "look at this danged Bernie Bro"
lmao from 15 to 17 I literally went from Barack Obama to David Duke
I didn't know about Jared Taylor or any of the good optics guys back then so I thought David Duke was a genius when I found him
Well broccoli is good for you
At least
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I'll have to check back on the earlier episodes then, I'm one of the few people that actually listens to those ha ha, mostly because I don't get to listen in on most firesides
If you guys ever have the opportunity to talk to younger people about our views, you should do it, just make sure not to be cringe
Don't be the annoying uncle at Thanksgiving, be a decent person who also knows stuff about politics
I do hear Zoomers say bad optics things sometimes in passing at my job. If I say anything at all I tell them to hide their power level
Getting into nuanced discussion about Identitarianism takes more time than such instances permit
and risks my own self
@Nemets Varged & Green pilled
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I can relate to your story. I also was a Clintonite (Former Bernie Bro who had Trump Derangement Syndrome.) Spent several months with my dad where I was reading a lot about our ideas and taking inventory of all my experiences growing up in CA. Didnโt take much once I finally took the time to put it all together.
I imagine you living in an actual retirement home, surrounded by a ring of Sikh and Hindu fortresses.
With an Udmurt love interest
But how is the food? [/boomer]
Finance a bollywood action movie where Nemets comments on ancient Vedic wars using statistics and genetics research. Would watch /10
Then again I guess you could do that with existing movies and simple voice over software
@Jacob "red pill rocket"
Mfw. I found /pol/ and the Stormer when I was around 12, never been the same since <:nervous:359009898115104770> <:teehee:381917632359563264> talk about a way to go from a weak leftist to the school Chad within a year or so
I actually knew about Stormfront since I was a little kid
but it never had any effect on me
I loved the "crimes against Whites" threads on there, pretty insightful stuff at the time
But the spergy stuff is definitely a turn off
Shows how important optics are
Imagine if I accidently found Red Ice when I was a kid
Instead of finding Stormfront
I'd have been here much earlier
tbh I was never really offended by Stormfront, I just didn't find it particularly interesting
well, and there was a feeling of "these guys are kinda silly"
Itโs amazing to me how many of us went from being very liberal Democrats to IE. I think itโs awesome! It shows that we have evolved we have done our homework we have done our research and we were open to accepting the facts and the truth
just saw a BBC video of a white girl with a brown babydoll explaining why she won't have kids <:really:453005408064241674>
Subtle!
๐
idk, looks like basic damage control while still defending his beliefs
Yeah Okay. Retweeting Lana though.
*WINK NUDGE* We hear you Steve
also this will only push more normie nationalists further right
the more basic pro-american rhetoric is considered "hateful" by the left, the more regular people will care less
Some definitely will. Some will go along with the program as they always have. Hard to know if the mass redPilling curve is exponential or linear. We grow but so do our opponents
Has anyone seen the film Child 44? Itโs fantastic.
RE Steve king post - I quit reading at โrejectโ lol.
yes
Super cucked and homosexual statement tbh
He has to realize this gains him nothing
Comparing WN to โliterally der Shoahโ is unimaginably retarded of him too my god
he can test the waters but if he goes in too deep he drowns himself
he said what he said, the GOP will grumble but do nothing, and our ideas get normalized further
Iโd rather not normalize them by comparing WN to literally anudda Shoah
if he refused to do damage control the GOP would have had a reason to go after him and we could lose /ourguy/ in the senate
He couldโve done this in a much better way, I think most all here agree this apology went into some unnecessary levels of cuckery.
Heโs looking out for his own interests . He too has to pay the bills at the end of the day. Heโs making sure his career is not over... but he planted a seed ... and people can read between the lines
I do wonder though if IE shouldnโt perhaps contact him and tell him that we too do not consider ourselves supremacists and we too reject events of the past. But we as an organization advocate for western civilization and are committed to defending our way of life ...
We advocate for Whites explicitly lol
Not โWestern Civilizationโ which implicitly but insufficiently implies White
We donโt advocate for western civilization??
What I was trying to do was I was trying to build on common ground and I was trying to use his own words
Western civilization can be seen as inclusive to various nonWhites that โassimilateโ and doesnโt imply the exclusivity of Whites only, which is what this group is advocating for.
Stating โwe reject events of the pastโ is cucking
eg, the pro-homosexual pro-diversity Proud Boys were a โwestern civโ group
This isnโt the proud boys
@โกClarkโก agreed. What on earth are we apologizing for/rejecting ffs
@Sam Southern - TN youโre basically giving them credibility and the moral high ground
By apologizing yeah. We have no reason to.
Jared Taylor very often talks about how we do not condone events of the past that people want to link to our brand
And I never talked about apology if you read my comment
I donโt recall talking about the fact that we should apologize so I am puzzled
We donโt have to say we donโt condone events of the past, because then your buying their bullshit @Grayson
So I guess Jared Taylor is wrong
Once jews an muslims say โwe regret our role in the slave tradeโ then maybe we can say something like that
We donโt have to apologize for whatever some of our ancestors did in order to deserve rights
Itโs like saying โyes, youโre right about us, weโre evil and sorry about it. Can we have rights now?โ
No you guys totally misunderstood my comment and thatโs OK. Iโm off to the gym. you guys have fun
Gotcha
@Grayson Iโm confused how Iโm misunderstanding your comment. You said โperhaps IE should say we reject the events of the pastโ
I was saying that - in reference to his comment - ,perhaps this organization could get in touch with Mr King and try to build on common ground and use his own very words so as to not lose his attention and turn him off. In his comment he attempted to say that just because heโs pro western civilization that doesnโt mean heโs a white supremacist... he proceeded to say that he rejected events of the past often associated with that label. By letting him know that โhey Mr King we too are pro western civilization and believe this country should remain the way it was founded and we too do not defend events of the past that often get linked to us... so we understand your position and support it...โ (or something like that )
We are being attacked again by the "Republicans" in our state
Sometimes you have to build on common ground ... or you lose peopleโs attention after the first sentence
So that's why whites are expected to become a minority in 2045.
@Grayson he himself doesnโt believe his own signal that โwe reject events of the pastโ. Itโs just what he has to say to not be labeled a witch. He has no type of loyalty to others who say the same. Itโs not a virtue, itโs a defense mechanism. It wonโt make us seem like anything other than cowards just like him- except he has a reason to be โcowardlyโ as you said his career is on the line. Once youโve apologized for your history, you no longer deserve anything but punishment in peopleโs eyes. That is why we are here today, to change this idea in peoples minds that we deserve what is happening to us. This is the ground we are fighting for. Itโs not ground that can be ceded.
Ok
Jared Taylor often says when the topic comes up: โIโm embarrassed and ashamed of what some white people might have done historically ... BUT ...(and then he goes on to educate the audience big time ) so what he does is he grabs their attention first and then educate them on the true facts .. I think itโs an affective strategy.
@โกClarkโก But I respect your opinion and I see your point
Thatโs a good point, perhaps it does have a place of effectiveness in some cases, like Jareds. Perhaps he could also go without it. I believe in the end it would be better for him to go without it.
Not mentioning any view or opinion on it >>> โoh gawwwwd it was so awfulโ
Sometimes a little bit of humility goes along way and grabs the listeners attention ... and in my opinion humility is not synonymous of cowardliness
Anyways moving on... I hope Mr King can do demage control
There's no reason to go out of your way to apologize for something, but if you're directly asked "do you think x horrible thing was okay," it isn't "cucking" to say no.
@sigruna14 maybe the best response is โwhy are you asking me that question?โ Answer it with a question of your own, instead of being in the corner they want you in
@โกClarkโก That might be true. But we also need to understand that people are trying to figure us out and they are trying to understand what our movement is about. So I donโt completely blame people for asking those questions. They are giving us an opportunity to clarify our position and to make it categorically clear that we have no desire to rule over other races or to enslave other people etc. I think that when they ask us those questions (as annoying as they are) itโs a teaching moment for us
It depends whoโs asking I guess, who the audience is @Grayson
So, not to dox anybody or anything, but does IE have "Chapters" in all 50 states, or do we have some "dark zones?"
We don't have a coordinator for every state.
That's a shame. I think IE will be in a good place once we can make that happen
I've thought about moving out of state eventually, so maybe I could help "fill the void" in the future
@Nico The Great - CA Move here to Utah with us. You would be a great addition to our chapter
The DMV: poor demographics, liberal, but we have clout, VIPs, and cool meet ups ๐
Maybe, I don't think there's too many Catholic white women in Utah lol
It'd be difficult to get hitched you know, but then again I'm not too familiar wiht Utah other than there being mormons
@Nico The Great - CA There are about a dozen of them !! Jk thereโs a pretty impressive Catholic community here. And the LDS Church and the Catholic Church have a great working relationship and mutual respect
Interesting, I'll have to look into that then. Any agriculture jobs in Utah? That's kinda the career i'd like to look into
You can come help me feed all my goats @Nico The Great - CA
That's funny you say that, I actually just applied to a farm to milk sheep. Didn't even know milking sheep was a thing until now lol
I thought it was pretty much cows and goats
Yeah sheepโs milk cheeses are definitely a thing
Feta namely
Montechego is a favorite of mine
Tucker is slaying with irony rn
@Sam Anderson I'll pull him up right now
Can Slack do voice chat?
His guest just said the White working class is the canary in the coal mine
@Sam Anderson Very good!
@Tanner - SC No
Then how are we going to replace discord?
I'm looking to do Carolinas fireside chat.
IE temporarily took down the rocketchat server, but I don't think that's permenant. We wanted a voice platform on there to replace discord.
The current economics professor on Tucker says we need immigrants because muh birth rate
@Hakujin - CA The amount of dishonesty from "intellectuals" is astounding. Of course, said professor won't support increased white birthrates
At this point, I don't trust anyone who wears a lab coat or claims to be educated
@Nico The Great - CA He then said the child tax credit is an example of the US trying to make having children easier.
@Hakujin - CA Oh no no no lol
That's such a lame example.
@Hakujin - CA agreed
Is Tucker live on youtube? Or do I need cable?
<:teehee:381917632359563264>
He should be on YouTube too.
@StevePines -WA I saw that tweet of his, it was hilarious. You'd think after lying so much, they'd get good at it eventually!
Tuckers guest also referred to โnative bornAmericansโ are not having children at replacement rates. Aka he read that daily mail article
@Nico The Great - CA they don't have to be with a dormant population
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