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do people troll here?
Let’s take a moment to appreciate that DC chapter is epic and I have the option of 3 different meet ups this week lmao. Organize em!
To people troll here or not to people troll here, that is the question
I have a van dyke for that perfect average.
i need more Evropean Interface time
2007 trollface is 😏 + 😈
I just have a beard.
change my mind
When do we add the whole suite of rage faces as custom emotes
@Nerv - VA I would call myself a cleanshaven nationalist
Cleanshaven Nationalism NOW!
@Nico The Great - CA Where are you? I'm from Georgia, but I lived in Sacramento for 27 years. I saw it go from an awesome place to at third-world hellhole.
@Nico The Great - CA your winning streak doesn’t look too good according to the stats.
Remember that nerd from high school: this is him now
Like a boss!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri6qhzQjhpg Daily Caller is using straw ban to show us how diversity is enriching
@OMGDwayne Central Valley California. Sacramento's pretty bad, but the Valley has slightly better demographics
Remember that meme from 2007? It's old now.
That nerd from high school (Me) is laughing at my entire class who went on to do nothing with their lives
Who is the Boss? He's the man who drives the big car.
Remember that meme from 2 months ago? It's old now.
'cept that one guy who went to Medical School and turned into an AOC-worshipping DemSoc*
(*Who started out as a Ron Paul worshipping libertarian)
@Nerv The only stats I trust these days are FBI crime states
2023, everyone who didn't like us in high school kneel before the kings of evropa
Normies hate him: Watch this Identitarian leave them speechless with this one weird trick. PER CAPITA
@Nico The Great - CA The thing is that California, as a whole, is only 20 percent White. When I first moved there in 1989 it was still 85 percent White.
FBI crime states, you mean KKKommiefornia??? 😎😎😎 epic style
woah, step away from discord for a few minutes and we're on beards now?
all of a sudden everyone started shortening Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to AOC and I almost missed the transition
We're on a lotta things now
@Sam Southern - TN Hey, don't mock the boomer humor. I may not be a boomer, but I actually like boomer patriotism
@apronandlace How did you pass your interview without a beard?
It’s funny because most blacks I’m convinced can’t understand What per capita means.
Watch this man keep your electorate white with ONE trick: voting
We're taking beards back from the Marxists.
I'd say it's a simple trick but apparently voting is _really hard_
How much of the non-white population of Cali is even eligible to vote?
I think that facial hair diversity actually is enriching.
But not facial dreadlocks right?
I have a really big beard. Perfectly trimmed though.
@OMGDwayne Yeah, I mean it's bad, but I don't pull my hairs out or anything. I'm sure I'll move out of stat at some point before I have kids, but I'm not one of the blackpillers that's like, "Oh I'm a minority in this state, time to kill myself now, why try doing anything wiht my life." I'm sure we've all encountered people like that
that is both horrible and amazing
even Tim Wise the super smart jew doesnt get per capita
look man, percentages is hard. you can't expect people to know that shit.
More like Tim Dumb
That’s why they don’t tip either 🤭
@Nemets Sounds good. I've honestly brainstormed about renting a house to other IE members, like that one place in Ohio. A safehouse in california would be really cool. Thought about calling it the "Bastille" or something. I'm serious by the way
@Nico The Great - CA Two years ago my wife and I moved to Georgia. I'm from Georgia and I have a massive extended family here. We're living in my parents' old house which has been around since 1959. I love it here. We're under the gun too though.
You can buy a city block in Baltimore for like 60k
My city now
Am I gonna rent a city block to blacks?
Keep it for yourself
Generation Identity has a bar/safehouse in Europe that they call the "Citadel" so I've thought about copying them an doing something similar for us, just calling it The Bastille, or maybe name it after an America fort
I'm gonna make a sick cardboard box castle in mine
I'm just imagining some fortified bar now
>not calling it the dragon's lair
which I guess is the point but it's very much so the mental image that name projects
I'm gonna make the world's biggest gym
@ophiuchus Honestly, I've also daydreamed about an IE bookstore called "The Dragon's Eye"
Gentrification: taking the Moore out of Baltimore.
I'm serious about the Bastille thing though
"Hi MTV, welcome to my crib: an entire city."
Not that anyone remembers MTV. Nor should they.
"This is where I get coffee, it's a cafe."
@Nemets I'm not asking you to dox, but are there lots of people near LA? /ourguys/ I mean
Isn’t the bastille famous for being stormed?
and being torn down by hand
Does kind of invite some autistic antifa "storming the bastille" thing
@Salo Saloson What's the name of that American fort battle that led to the American Revolution? I mean the name of the fort where that battle took place?
We live in an extremely rural area. Almost ALL of the people here are just like us. But they don't want to admit it. And yes, the Bastille was originally the citadel for Paris. it was super ancient. The mob tore it down as a symbolic act against the aristos.
that's in Canada I think
that's a pencil
but more to the point: I'm a superstitious goat. I also won't walk under ladders, step on cracks, or walk across a black cat's path
@OMGDwayne In that case, it makes sense to call it the Bastille. If it was a symbol of aristocracy, that fits us perfectly. We're all kangz after all
How _democratic_ of you to say
@VinceChaos Sumter! Thanks, that's a good one too. Gotta inject some patriotism in our org.
I cant believe they named the presidents house after what we were gonna name IE HQ
yeah, La Casa Blanca. what a coincidence.
I used to laugh when people called it the black shack during Obama’s term
slight change: Huwhite House
in the future well name things after past IE presidents
I vote to change IE's flag from a dragon's eye to an awkward close up of Jared Taylor's face
superimposed on the dragon's eye, obviously
it is the _Dragon's Eye of Jared Taylor_
Sooo I’m done with classes during the week now. I’m going to be trying to get a position in the local GOP.
Cool, Nerv. I approve. But i'm actually a legit paleoconservative, so idk how I really feel about that. Probably best not to let me know your actual politcal views tbh lol
Paleocons are in the GOP just like right leaning libertarians.
Buchanan is paleocon
@Nerv - VA I get you, I was sort of implying that you might be "further right," which I'm quite opposed to personally tbh. That probably makes me an odd one in IE
@Papa Pizzagate I've only been in IE for like 2 months though, so I still don't exactly have a grasp of things
Calling myself a paleocon would also not be inaccurate.
His books are basically indistinguishable than some people who might have much worse reputations.
@Nerv - VA That's a bit reassuring that you say that tbh. I support IE of course, but my initial impressions have been that there are a lot of "gas station" guys if you get the reference. I'm really not on that train
@Nico The Great - CA haha, uh look into Buchanan a little bit more.
He got in a bit of trouble over his views I’ll just say that.
@Nico The Great - CA The French Revolution was one of the first revolutions that espoused eglaiitariansim. This toxic, malignant social pathology has dogged us ever since. The Jews latched onto this very early on as a way to destroy cilvilization, and to cynically reduce everyone to a lowest common denominator. Except for the ruling elite of course, whom they imagined would be (((them))). Happily, the French appear to be the ones most ready and able to destroy the GloboHomo New World Order. The Italians, Hungarians, Poles, etc. are right behind them. Britain is the worst Leftist tyranny right now, but the Brits are also one of the most belligerent people on earth. They will wake up too.
@Nerv - VA I'll have to look him up then. Tbh I've only heard a few snippets from him, my claim of "paleoconservative" comes from the fact i'm big fans of Red Elephants, Nick FUentes, and Tucker Carlson
@OMGDwayne I basically agree with everything there, though I might have worded it a bit differently lol
far right is a contextual term
hell paleocon simply means old conservative its a bit contextual itself
@Nico The Great - CA yea I like all those guys. We all joined IE for the Optics, but Vince and Nick both have histories of not so good optics. That’s how they built their base.
Vince James doesnt have good optics? Since when?
Tbh, I joined IE because I really like Patrick Casey. If it was "old leadership" I never would have joined tbh. I'm just being straight up with you guys
i think i recall Nicks less than optimal optics and mistakes he made. but fuzzy on the specifics
I don't just like the "optics," I actually find "alternative" identitarianism to actually be immoral
what is alternative identitarianism
@Nico The Great - CA that is the exact culture and impression we are trying to move from. I wish more people would get on board, frankly.
The one major thing we have to realize is that our government is committed to the destruction of civilization. Trump is straining every nerve to fight these traitors, but he is hamstrung by the permanent deep state.
DM me if you want to explain past bad optics of Vince or Nick
@VinceChaos people who think identitarianism is simply a fresh coat of paint on other failed ideologies, the Alt right etc.
Anyway. What are we listening to while we chat.
@VinceChaos To be frank, actual NatSoc movements, skinheads, Klan, etc are very repulsive to me. They're not just "optically" bad, I actually find them morally repugnant. If you've ever watched teh Andy Griffith Show, you'll understand my vision for America. If not, google image it. People like Richard Spencer and his "crowd" are also repugnant to me too tbh
ok def on the same page then
@VinceChaos Good to hear. I say that because even though I've met great people, I'm really new to things, so I'm still figuring out where the actual organization stands. I don't think a lot of the "old guard" IE members realize that it actually takes alot to take that first step and get involved in a group like IE.
my roommate put on the college foosball game that was in the background @OMGDwayne
@Nico The Great - CA Yeah, well, these objectionable people are inevitable. We can no longer be a movement of elitists. As our movement gains power, as it will, we will be joined and supported by our lower-class brothers. They will be impulsive. But if we become the kind of mass movement we need to be, we should embrace our lower-class brethren. They are just like us. They are the foot soldiers of out movement.
Uh no, that’s actually a really bad Idea IMO. Just look at TWP.
these kinds of people are not in great numbers and dont need to be catered to
@OMGDwayne I totally disagree tbh. I'm just a normal American who doesn't want white people to go extinct. I have nothing to do with other groups. I love America, I love the flag, I love the 2nd A, I'm not some guy pushing an ideological revolution for a European style government or something. Just an average joe
The leadership is very protective of our image which is why I like IE. If we start hanging out with weirdos I’m out.
besides, many of the bad optics white groups are not dedicated to political action. they are just separatists. its a different thing entirely
@Nerv - VA Totally random topic, but were you the guy I talked to the other day about the Meyers Briggs personality test?
@Nico The Great - CA Again. I f we are to win, we will have to be a mass movement. And that means hordes of White men and women who are on our side in the most visceral and emotionally committed way. We will in no way be able to keep our movement on some kind of higher plane.
@Nerv - VA It was pretty cool, i took the test myself and ended up with INTP, and the test actually tells you historical and fictional characters with the same trait. One of them was Neo from the Matrix. You know, the guy who took the original red pill lol
Yea I’m INTP too.
Everyone gets INTP.
Those tests are bogus
INTP is very rare
there just arent hordes of bad optics people
@ExternalPepsi Idk, it was pretty accurate describing me, and my other family members all got pretty accurate matches for them as well
@Prestor John it's a shame that happened to James, this is the Facebook page from our local newspaper about his situation
INTP is the one who freaks out when everyone is lying.
@Nerv - VA It's funny because I'm great at catching people lie to me irl!
@StevePines -WA I heard about it. Yeah, pretty messed up, though it sounds like he never attended the meetings he was supposed to go to either. That's what one article said anyway, don't know if true
I am supposedly entj, but I don't put a ton of stock into it.
Trust me, its bogus. There isn't just 16 "personality types".
Yea attendance is the most important part
Yeah, if I'm correct, literally the only job of Allsup's office was to SPECIFICALLY attend hearings to make decisions, and he never did lol
I get ISTP for the most part.
I'm not sure if he attended meetings or not I haven't heard from him in a while, but it always seemed like they had a negative sentiment towards him
But I've gotten ENTP AND INTP
Someone tried to get him kicked out immediately
@StevePines -WA I"m sure they did. He wasn't one of the Zog PTA members that rule every community
@ExternalPepsi well of course not. If you look into it it’s pretty interesting. A mother and daughter came up with it after reading a Carl jung book. There’s actually variations within the types also.
I only looked into it a little the other day.
@DaddyPaddy - FL So nice to see you Mr. Bond. I expect you to die etc.
@ExternalPepsi your probably just not extremely introverted or extroverted.
@Nerv - VA I admit, I'm a sucker for personality tests, I just find them fun
@Nico The Great - CA I am too but I know it's basically bullshit.
I never thought about it until I got a YouTube recommendation and was like holy hell this is me.
Like there is some truth
But it doesn't mean much.
@ExternalPepsi Well, if you weren't skeptical of things, you probably wouldn't be in IE ha ha
That makes me wonder, how many people in IE were "redpilled" just by having based parents, and how many of us joined from watching too many Youtube videos? That would be an interesting study
@Nico The Great - CA I have a great book somewhere in my library that first has you take the MB personality test then shows which careers/jobs are most common among your personality type. Although I regularly test into 2 different personalities depending on how the questions are asked, I was shocked at how accurate it was with my personality type and the kinds of careers that appeal to me (and that I've done).
I have actually tested as 3 different ones, but I get 2 more commonly. I'd have to look it up to remember which ones they were.
Their are trillions of neurons in the brain with many more connections. Yeah, personality test are bullshit.
Anything that puts you into a category isn't going to be 100% correct. I am pretty unusual in that I can be both very extroverted (which I think I lean to) but I also enjoy my personal time and reflection (thus why I get introverted too).
The thing is, just because it isn't 100% accurate doesn't mean it isn't useful.
They vary A LOT on usefulness.
@greg_p - TX Very interesting! The test I took said I'm more geared towards science/math, and that otherwise it's hard for my type to find careers. Unfortunately for me, I HATE science and math, which just means I struggle to find any career lol
People are different people in different circumstances/environments.
In-depth/real MB personality tests have proven to be the most useful out of the ones I've taken.
You might be more extroverted if you are the most "alpha" male in the room and introverted otherwise, for example.
Even though I was tested INTP, and alot of what it said was true about me, I'm actually not scientific-minded at all. I'm actually very idealistic, but I'm also just skeptical of things
Yes, among less intelligent people with shitty morals/beliefs I find social interactions don't come hard (I'm pretty comfortable socially), I can always find or try to find common ground, BUT social interactions of these kind are very TAXING on me and I find I need alone time or to get away from these people before too long.
Alternatively, around intelligent, open-minded people/people that share similar beliefs, I find social interactions energizing.
I can think of two different scenarios in which a person wouldn't change slightly or to a large degree.
@greg_p - TX We are probably like-minded souls. Then again, I spent much of my life thinking I would become a priest, so morality is definitely a major concern for me
Do people have different personalities when hungry for example? How about that pep-in-your-step when your bank account is full as opposed to the slump in your shoulders when it's empty? Too many factors to make a science out of it unless you include these factors.
But, maybe the attempt at it is useful.
@DaddyPaddy - FL Very interesting question that you have proposed. Unfortunately, ME NO SCIENCE ha ha
Clearly it is useful, otherwise it would be a complete waste of time and show zero utility.
I don't think it shows zero utility, but very little. Start hitting the gym and reading books, your personality will fit any situation.
The fact that these personality types show strong correlations mean they are measuring something useful, to varying degrees of course
Nah, genetics plays too much of a role in such things as personality.
You can change your personality to a significant degree, but there are limitations
I feel personalities have some set "homeostasis" points. They can definitely change depending on situation and mood.
There are varying times when I feel more extroverted and more introverted.
And those limitations are often more likely to be the determining factor in someone's personality than their ability to change.
Those "homeostasis" points are within such a broad range, I don't believe it is too useful.
I feel like it's not so much the personality that changes as it is you reacting to your environment. Someone who angrily bursts out because they're hungry is likely not an emotionally disciplined person in general, for instance
My red-pilled awaking was very difficult. It took about five years. I was always in touch with racial reality, but I denied it for many years because I wanted to be "cool." Moving from Georgia tp California in 1989 changed my mind for real. I had never seen such White cowardice. All decent Californians have now moved out.
Your reactions to environments is a reflection of personality. Even within the mind, not necessarily an outward expression.
@Gerald Cunningham I'm just speaking from personal experience, but I used to be EXTREMELY self-disciplined. As a religious person, I did this by reading the Bible everyday, praying constantly, working out routinely, and this actually made me a very different person. Even how I thought and acted was totally different. As I've gotten more lazy, I'm more likely to emotionally burst for instance
There are real things (e.g. chemical changes) that can alter your personality to some degree like regular exercise, diet etc, but those usually don't make DRAMATIC changes in your personality. A narcissistic person, for example, will not become significantly less narcissistic if they do or do not exercise or use some diet.
A narcissistic person can become quite different with self discipline.
This is actually a very fascinating topic, I'm just a little low-iq for it ha ha
I guess it depends on the person, but I've known a number of anti-social personality disorder types (psychopaths of various stripes) that have never and will never change IMO.
Interesting. Do you think this state of "laziness" is a permanent character change or more of a phase kind of thing. I believe that you could easily revert back to this disciplined state of mind. Especially when considering the brain can revert to this kind of state and remember how it felt to be that way @Nico The Great - CA .
Of course, that would require them to realize they were narcissistic, wouldn't it? You got me there @greg_p - TX
I haven't ever known someone who became significantly less narcissistic (discounting changes during teen years to adulthood).
I am a workaholic, but I also go through phases of laziness and procrastination.
@Gerald Cunningham I go through such phases depending on the season (laziness, fatty foods, less exercise during winter months, Lean attitude in the summer)
Ah, that sounds a lot similar to Seasonal Affective Disorder
It's not to get my "summer bod" either, I'm married with 5 kids. I believe it to be a survival instinct to my ancestors cold climate.
@Gerald Cunningham I would say it's more of a phase. Because I know I can go back to that, but it will take great willpower to do it. Back in my "better days," every single day was a battle of will. I think it's possible, but it takes an immense devotion to something. Once again, as a religious person, I would argue that my devotion to God was the only thing that inspired me and gave me will, but you might have a different outlook on that. Cold showers really do help too by the way ha ha
@Gerald Cunningham Want to do an 8 day fast with me starting on the 9th?
I've heard a lot of people share the idea that being disciplined in one aspect of your life leads to that mentality affecting the rest of your activity. Sounds like your devotion to God was either the result or the catalyst of that mentality. Kind of along the lines of those Navy Seals saying "make your bed in the morning, small things matter," or even Jordan Peterson saying clean your room bucko.
I guess that would be starting tomorrow lol
an 8 day fast? whew, lad
That was for @Nico The Great - CA but anyone is welcome to join.. Please don't let me be alone! lol
Gotta kick in that autophagy, son!
@DaddyPaddy - FL Sounds good. But is the fasting literally NO FOOD? I'm a skinny guy, man! And I like food! I was just about to go to Denny's tomorrow ha ha!
bruh, russian squat program and GOMAD
No calories. Black coffee and tea. By the end of 8 days, your insides will be that of a newborns lol
I’ve done 20 hour fasts max and my stomach wouldn’t stop growling
I can’t imagine more than 2 days
@DaddyPaddy - FL Wait, seriously? Bro, if you saw how skinny I am, you wouldn't tell me to fast ha ha. I like the discipline part for sure, but I need to get a few more pounds of fat first before I do that. I'd unironically get sick from that ha ha
You don’t need to if you have low body fat