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Midwife put me on bedrest but can't control my urge to clean
@Sam Anderson that's cool about Shaprio and Rogan talking about IQ differences. do you know roughly where in the video they talk about it?
@apronandlace missed your welcome in the regional slack, welcome to IE
white people and their *shuffles deck* white parenting
wow, the article calls for white parents not to do their best for their children
""Everyone is trying to do the best for their kid," she says. "But I actually think that there are times when maybe the best interest of your own kid isn't actually the best choice. Ultimately, being a good citizen sometimes conflicts with being good parents.... Maybe in our case it should have meant choosing a public school rather than a private one."
Translation: we need those white test scores to justify our failed demographic alchemy
@apronandlace this is going to make a good recruiting thread on the Donald
Lend me your updoots
@apronandlace Gee thanks for telling us what to do to be a good parent instead of a good citizen. Who reads this stuff? Childless liberals?
The liberal paradox. They don't want to have kids of their own but feel they know what's best to do with yours
Although the main point was to see if nature could be overcome by nurture, or indeed whether nurture is solely to blame for differences
It was more motivated by the desire to improve societies than express contempt, and I’m hoping she sees that
Also, it was probably already mentioned but if you guys want a comedic relief I suggest you watch a “debate” between Jared Taylor and Tariq Nasheed
I feel like that response was a bit overboard, but I don't know if I should delete it.
Lol. I got suspended for 12 hours. Oh well.
It is a bit much. You can point out he's Jewish without the implied vitriol
oh damn really that was quick
@OttoVonBismarck haha Tariq says that Asians are successful because white supremacists allowed them to be??
That “debate” was one of the funniest coming from the IBS era .
it's a must watch id highly recommend it as well
Yes apparently us whities can, if he ever wants to displace us, call up Xi Jinping and threaten him with our combined economic and military might, and he will back down and respect the hierarchy again
When even NK won’t respect us
@OttoVonBismarck Internet blood sports. From late 2017 through mid 2018 there were a few popular Youtubers that hosted live debates.
@OttoVonBismarck I took a Cultural Studies where I openly defended race realism and even segregation to an extent an got an A from my feminist professor
it depends on the school, but you can get away with a lot if the context is academic
If your campus is an Antifa hive, don't even touch politics in class. If your campus is out in the country like mine, nothing will probably happen to you.
That being said, there's always *some* risk, so it's up to you what you're comfortable with
looks like the comments at least aren't that bad though
This made my heart skip a beat.
Yeah apparently that lawyer has a solid chance.
this is probably the best take on optics out there
“Screen out emotionally warped people who thrive on negative energy “
“Attracting anti social freaks...”
So true! 👍
That’s why everything we do and say must genuinely reflect that.... we can think whatever we want deep down inside... but it’s imperative that we discipline ourselves, our words, our actions, etc...
Discipline and responsibility is the foundation of a good character. IE has tremendous amount of both.
That’s why I get frustrated when in spite of Patrick asking us repeatedly to not use fowl language and derogatory terms on Discord, we still have individuals who disregard that counsel. 🤷♂️
this isn’t about making lefties want to like us
this is about making the right want to *be* us
"two 'Americans'"; "Zaid Abed al-Hamid, known as Abu Zaid al-Ameriki, from the U.S."; Alexandr Ruzmatovich Bekmirzaev of "Dublin, Ireland" <:really:453005408064241674>
If the claim is that we are in Syria to fight ISIS, being in al Tanaf does nothing for that goal. It's surrounded by government controlled territory. War hawks might change their minds if they ever looked at a map or the conflict
As if war hawks actually want to win something lol they just want the war to continue
@Alex Kolchak - NY Even the term “optics” fails to capture what the issue is actually about. “Good optics” implies that we can just put a new, fresh coat of paint on worn out White Nationalist ideas, and expect to win people over.
With this in mind, it should be no surprise that IE is growing, and optics honestly has little to do with it. We’re crafting our own aesthetic, and our own movement in a disciplined way, with the best people.
Happy Sunday I.E! I hope you all are having a holy day with great lifts 💪
It's about actually believing what you claim to believe, and not just trying to hide extremism.
Stefan is on fire.
His angle though is ultimately not one of separatism and identity but social acknowledgement. I'm sure he wants an immigration moratorium, but I think he ultimately wants racial harmony based on this idea a social revolution is going to sweep in an era of HBD understanding and peace. Such a joke!
He admits coexistence isn't working yet the goal is coexistence. Great work Stefan.
Right. It’s almost as if he remains committed to still find a way to make multiculturalism still work but first by acknowledging the issues that come with it.
He is going quite hard lately, granted. I'm thinking he intentionally grows his audience and every so often he trims it intentionally by going hard on the race question.
I’m sure he would be happy to live in a multicultural nation without feminism and a welfare state
I understand and respect his caution. He never touched the alt right, especially during its peak. But I think his audience is asking for more at this point. Just an outside perspective!
Us and he have acknowledged the problem of competing identity politics. He would do away with the politics. We would separate competing identities
Just turn it into a market! 🙃
I agree. Ultimately, we should be using these potential shifts in the Overton Window as opportunity to speak truth into people’s lives. Teach people what we believe and a pathway forward. There are thousands and thousands of people who agree and sympathize with us. These supporters are reading his tweets.
Yes! I love how he compared multiculturalism to communism. Jared Taylor does the same thing in his book, “White Identity”.
Hopefully, Trump uses his emergency powers to slow down our decaying multiculturalism:
@Ryan -NJ that's predominantly why I geared my social media usage just for making fun of the left and giving out redpills. There's alot of opportunities. Everyone wants a grand windfall moment but the truth is that in a culture war you kill an idea in a death by a thousand cuts
Steady non compromised pushing further and further in the direction you want it to go
@bspon002 Agreed. We need to have the long game in mind. We will win via good ideas and stellar character.
It helps too if your opponent is ridiculous 😂
I was told last night at a bar that if we were to have a civil war, my white ass better be the first to be shot. I am glad that I didn't hit the person but this is what they want. This is their view of demographics. White = evil, if white is gone then no evil. This person was a co-worker of mine and knows my MAGA support. He seemed to be fine with me day to day. Deep down full of anger. He even started talking about reparations! I thought that was dead with libfag patrol but obviously not. He got offended when I told him no I wouldn't take 5$ out of my paycheck to give to some black. Just a quick story.
reverse the races in that statement and you have an SPLC article
The fact that he could blatantly say this infront of not just me and everyone just goes along their merry way. I guess building and inventing 99.9% of the modern world gets you a bullet in the head.
@Albo Greychak - MI oh he isn't even black. "Native" "American"! Shows how blind he is. His people are at the last pieces of genetic line and he's worrying about blacks...
Its the coalition mentality. Somehow all these different minorities are going to (((coexist))) and throw a jubilee every day with eachother.
Majority minority cities have extreme racial stratification. Black hates brown, and yellow hates all of them. They’ll only be unified as long as it takes to remove ypipo
@PatrickAZ I wish he'd said that on a tweet. Those things tend to travel around
ok, this is good trolling
CathBol Gang is already making big progress in the new year
The only reason non whites seem unified is because their Jewish masters are leading them in one direction. Without their high verbal IQ mouthpiece, they'd have no common ground to stand on at all.
@bspon002 well I used to work with him so he's obviously too chicken-shit to actually speak up without the assistance of alcohol.
@Albo Greychak - MI exactly right. Their common ground is built on quicksand. It is given so they can all come together and be consumed by globohomo at one time.
Well this is unfortunate.
Fookin hate the Kurds, I will forever not understand the normiecon obsession with protecting them
The real question is, why is multiculturalism a goal? If it’s so difficult to make people do, and if the outcome is consistently weaker than a homogenous society with common goals, why bother? I think traditional Europe is the supreme model, many diverse cultures that exists in harmony among a closely linked ethnic people’s. That’s enough “multiculturalism” to me. More diversity in that little slice of the earth than the whole damned planet!
@Albo Greychak - MI everyone loves talking about the jews but honestly give white liberals and blacks credit. Jews are a minority. It doesn't take intelligence to act in your own interest. Individual ants are stupid but together they do alot of things. It's the supposed "intellectual" in our society that have attempted to flay self interest as bad
Traditional Europe didn’t really exist in harmony tho
For a time before the first WW it did.. before (((they))) we’re disrupting the financial structures.
You can just say Jews bro the echoes are kinda cringe
Sure, there was infighting. But nothing that would have collapsed the cultures in their entirety.
But yeah central banks even had a role in coordinating other earlier wars.
Like their bit in the battle of Waterloo
Meh I would disagree that traditional Europe ever existed in harmony. More or less always been ethnic conflicts.
10 4, I realized that while typing them. I’m a new member though so still feeling it out lol
Yeah no worries man
They had their time, but its over
But the diverse cultures did exist in a small continent, correct?
Even with the conflicts, they never utterly destroyed each other.
Yeah thats kind of the whole feudalism bit
we are not talking about padjeets so lets see
I wish Trump would fire John Bolton.
John Bolton is a dangerous man..
Ah, glad to see Bolton was able to completely stop the withdrawal for the forseeable future. This has nothing to do with the recent (yesterday) visit to Tel Aviv, I'm sure.
reality confirming my political beliefs is bad for my blood pressure.
After listening to Patrick's speech, I am wondering if our message is too meta for the average European American. I am more worried about present anti-white discrimination like criminalization of Christianity, all defense critical US STEM programs unanimously composed of Chinese nationals, majority mexican birthrates, revisionist history in pop culture, the rise of third world politics in Congress, and the loss of a nations worth dying for in America and Europe. Yes, this all part of a long history, but that's not the political opportunity. It's that we can use these attacks to reunite, reinstill identity, and rebuild what was lost and even what never existed before. Trump understood this.
The Democrats who say they need to stop trying to win back whites and focus on "minority" interests are practically doing this job for us. We just need to be the place where whites feel like they belong and are championed.
I think language about music, food, religion, and even occupation would be helpful in establishing shared identity. Trump gave Elvis and award, for example
We must separate the Kurds and whey.
I think this troop withdrawal news has turned Lindsey Graham back into John McCain's loyal servant. He should be primaried in 2020.
Can someone remind me why our leaders care so much about the Kurds?
Probably because it gives them at least a weak justification for staying there
The military industrial complex needs those sweet wars
I wonder if this means the Syria withdrawal will never happen.
Only time will tell.
@Nemets is 100% right. There’s a great chart overlaying the replacement of Armenians with Kurds in 1915 and in 2014 with the SCW.
I can find it but I’m sure somebody else will first
Does the yt video linked in the announcement work for yall? It isnt for me but idk if it’s bc my signal sucks rn
If Trump really does base some policy on what he sees on Fox News, I hope Tucker spends his Monday night monologue discussing the futility of the wars in Syria and Afghanistan.
Hello folks, hope everyone's day is well. Being a classically trained Chef & specializing in the European tradition I am making a classic French desert called "Pears belle Helene".
That's a photo of it but not mine. Will post pics when done if cute, might delete later.
We have sports products? 😀
I doubt it.
In other, more personal news: I may now have my Thesis Problems figured out and I'll probably get that M.Sc degree in a year or so
and knowing my luck I'll end up in Canda
What’s the thesis problem?
The problem had been finding a thesis to do (all the other ones failed for... a lot of reasons). This time though there's something actually definite in the works.
I hope it works out for you this time
I have just recently-in barely the past two months- came to appreciate the Jewish question...now I find myself googling major “white” liberals and Neo conservatives and wow. Nobel prize winning liberal economist Paul Krugman, Bernie Sanders, Chuck Schumer, George Soros (duh lol), Sheldon Adelson...
But Trump touched the wall, he had the hat-let on and everything....
Lol yeah he’s not perfect...and he’s playing the game
With that being said, I wanna get Stephen Miller’s autograph 😀
Hopefully Trump is pulling a Bane with the Jewish lobby...and he will eventually do this:
These are birds. Just saw a whole sky full of them. Clouds of birds covering the sky.
As much of a threat to white well being as our mercantile friends can be, don't let the endless levantine red pills blind you to all of the other threats to white-well being, including many whites! What's the Chinese equivalent of "shabbos goy"? Good Gweilo?
The JQ is real and all, but it can consume if not taken measuredly.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Oh my friend, I’m very aware of what you speak of...I’m about to go to an evangelical church service...they’re some of the biggest Zionists and most of them are white
Honestly I would side with the Jew Stephen Miller over a white liberal anyday
To a point.
Race is important but it is not everything
Ideology is important too
Stephen Miller wants to stop Mestizo invasion, which is good for whites.
The Taboo yet true nature of the JQ can have effects of..? how to call it... whiplash? Aka going full Paul Nehlen. Do not go full Paul Nehlen. Avoid shouting from mountain tops (or Twitter).
As ever, just being pro-white in a wholesome yet unapologetic way usually gets unsavory people to "name themselves," so to speak. And patterns are noticed in those situations. Good optics isn't just good imagery, it is good substance and good strategy!
And good optics
I ate too many cookies this Christmas so I'm getting back on keto to try and get in shape before lopf
Fitness is huwyte
I did a workout on the exorcist stairs by Georgetown University today
the demographics of that place are white people running up and down, with confused but intrigued Asian tourists watching
Well, my workplace is more or less aware of my
/views/, I have even been casually informing a curious white normie here about the Rothschilds (easing into the jq) & several sets of crime stats etc. I could see his gears turning, the redpills were already taking effect. He asked about an books he might read so he could get a clearer picture & I let him borrow my White Identity book by Jared Taylot. I'm curious as to how he will react.
Strange that here in rural mountain country Vermont the whites are VERY open to redpilling but in the southern part, the AntiFa wannabe types rule.
Vermont saw a large migration of New Yorkers and Bostonians to the southern, and urban, part of the state. You are probably encountering old stock Vermonters.
It seems so, even the rural youth are open to it. The old stock Vermonters are already mostly ourfolks. I was even made aware of an old hashtag up here used when the leftist agenda immerged called "takevermontback". I might have to so some research & work that I to my "tools of the trade'.
Can anyone give me both the white and black pills on the French yellow vests? I've heard it's just going to dwindle from some thinkers in our circles but I've also heard it keeps heating up?
If only I could find some young, stalwart types to really work with, imagine....a Vermont chapter of IE. YUGE!
@Jonaltright I don't really know too much about tgebyellpw vests. I know that it's catching fire in central Europe.
I suggest reading up on the colonization of America. It's a fascinating subject that will be useful in crafting a new narrative about Whites and America. American Nations by Colin Woodard is highly suggested.
@Jonaltright JFG has spoken about the Yellow Vests from the perspective of a French QBCer (black pilled). He believes the French people to be perpetual complainers. They (all French both left and right) are SO reliant on the massive welfare oriented French government, that they have to tango with them to survive. Therefore, these protests are mostly about the French populace asking for specific material or welfare needs from Macron and company. After the French get what they want, they’ll move along. This is the black pilled take on the movement.
@Jonaltright The white pilled take would focus on the protests being the spark of a pro nationalist / anti globalist movement in France. Evidence that supports this is the anti Rothschild orientation as of late.
Anybody else can hop in on this one if you’d like to.
They surrounded the French stock exchange, ran forklifts into the front of banks, and continue to fight the riot police that provoke them. They’ve crossed a whole lot of lines
this “steel barrier” better be about five feet thick and 30 feet high smh
Trump better not screw the pooch on this one
Apparently border control wants the slats so that they can see what happening on the other side
ok, I can get behind that
I mean in a general sense - I want an actual impenetrable barrier
if it has firing ports- I mean viewing slats- that’s fine I guess
Very strange how accurate red elephants prediction was on trumps action taken for the wall
what did they say?
Steel Slats still allows the import of drugs though which sucks.
But with drone technology maybe that's no longer an issue
Literature discussion in a few minutes
We'll be interviewing Jared Taylor on February 10th
Chapter 1 of White Identity, The Failure of Integration
Last I checked there wasn’t a powerful political lobby dedicated to expending American resources for the ethnic cleansing of the Irish island but go off Ben. Yishtabach.
To be fair to Ben there are plenty of ostensible Americans who care far more about Israel than they care about this country.
I'm not a big advocate for its the jews mentality. I do however recognize that many of them in media pull stunts like this and cause themselves to give jews a bad wrap
They're raised in a culture that tells them that they are the eternal victims and it ends up fostering this sort of garbage. Always taking the side of the perceived "oppressed'.
Honor has never been an important pillar of their culture either, which, paired with their avg high iq and ethnocentrism, leads to the schemes they can pull at high levels gained through nepotism.
I think one of the rights biggest disadvantages is jew fixation. The left wants you to talk about the jews all the time instead of casually critiquing them as you would anyone else
Everyone does it, but they're more successful at it due to some of those characteristics.
There’s a tendency to view the JQ as the overarching theme in the Redpill processes because it’s typically the one people come to last. It’s inaccurate in that way, it’s certainly a component of the world we find ourselves in, but it is not the root of every single social ill.
I give more credit to white liberals for our social problems then I do the jews
Ultimately it's our fault for letting ourselves be played, but with that mindset you can go back all the way to every single country that Jews as a group have pushed their weight around too much.
Anyone that buys into everything is the jews fault mentality is just setting themselves up to be a characture for the left.
It was one of the banes of WN 1.0s. They reveled in looking and sounding disfunctional and being the villain
1.0 other than maybe NA was never serious.
I would say I’m a bigger fan of the “pathological altruism can be blamed for most of our problems” theory, although many of those people are not behaving the way they are out of a desire to help others. It is a very selfish need to appear more intelligent, more moral, and fundamentally better than the rest of their countrymen. American society has always adored martyrdom and popular piety- with liberalism becoming the religion of the populace, the message has changed while the vehicle to communicate it has not.
I go more that route of thinking as well. It's a saviour martyrdom complex.
@bspon002 convincing people to be pro-white is hard enough. Once they get there, they’ll start noticing the right things in a natural and organic way
that being said, I think open criticism of the Israel lobby will ultimately be in our favor
because of how little people really know about it
so tl;dr I mostly agree that “itsthejews” has diminishing returns
I seriously know Jewish people who can’t stand AIPAC since they view it as an open call to expend taxpayer money on ethnic cleansing.
Which it is.
But that doesn’t have to be presented through a “JEWS TAKING OUR MONEY REEEE”
It's fine to criticise. Just don't become a characture or validate their need to feel like a martyr victim. They want to play the part to validate their position
It can completely be argued against from a positing of “it is not in American interests to pursue warfare for the sole benefit of other countries.”
To take a break from Jews, let's talk about Christian universalists and their aids like equality religion.
The problem is that they control the media, so even when they control everything they will use the media to portray themselves as victims.
I would say that egalitarian religious ideation in this country paved the way for Jewish influence to become as strong as it did.
let’s not compare people to diseases, it’s probably not a very good look
I would also argue that WASPs do not catch nearly as much flack as they deserve.
Which I say as a WASP.
The author of the “children’s whiteness must be opposed” piece
the guy who wrote the article about white school kids
Looks like noah got deluged with a torrent of trolling tweets.
I had fun.
I can’t believe writing something like “do not do what’s best for your children because then that’ll perpetuate white supremacy” had negative consequences
I also can’t believe they thought that was a good idea to write. There are some very serious tacit implications there.
I’m sure their cost/benefit analysis determined that anti-whiteness is a sustainable position at this point
Might have also just been written for controversy clicks.
Like that “why we miss the WASPs” piece a few weeks ago
that too. I’d say it’s usually a combination of both
@Rick I've been spreading his cancerous article all over the place so I'm not surprised other are as well