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There is no way the UK could do Brexit without A. Getting screwed economically or B. opening the door to other nations leaving the EU. Which would never happen.
Plus Northern Ireland is enough of a problem to make Brexit difficult.
Brexit is economically harmful as well.
If the precedent is set that one can leave the EU and not get fucked economically, the whole bit is done for.
I don’t really know what to make of the whole thing. I understand the feelings of the regular Britons who don’t like taking orders from Strasbourg, but yanking the country out of its economic integration with its neighbors is going to be pretty rough. I also don’t see a point in leaving the EU if you’re not going to actually address the reason who people voted to leave the EU- immigration. I’m completely unconvinced a non-EU UK would have a reasonable immigration policy, and I’m quite sure they’d just keep doing what they’re doing now, which is a disaster.
Europeans are often either A. Monarchists and agree with the American WNs on some things. or B. Cowards who are racial nihilists.
Europe is odd.
I was in the UK last month and it was truly staggering how much London had changed between when I was there as a child and now. I went to a few museums, and every time I came across a group of school children on a field trip, maybe three out of fifteen or so were British (or white of another stripe.)
Ironically. And hopefully, this plan to create a Pan Euro identity AND THEN adding in Third World people may create a Pan European Identity. Which would be nice. Given the stark contrast between Somalis and Brits vs Brits and other Europeans.
Just an update on south africa before I go to sleep
Went somewhere for dinner that said it was 5 stars on Yelp. Ended up being a strip club.
Finished my beer and bailed.
Try showing up as the clearly American White dude in a sport coat and not get nagged for money constantly.
It's a worthy consideration. I don't know if you've heard the "race didn't exist until the age of colonization" argument before, but what you're talking about is something kind of similar. The "race didn't exist before colonization" thing is *almost* true, it's just talking about the wrong thing. Genetic population clusters which we call races very much did exist before the age of colonization, but we didn't know about them. A 9th century French peasant might not have even known black people, for example, existed, so of course his conceptualization of his ethnic relation was different. It's only through comparison that differences arise, and when Europeans discovered the rest of the world and met its people, they were able to understand that, for example, the Spanish and the English were more similar to each other than either was to Bantus in Africa or Malays in Indonesia. As their frame of reference expanded, they were able to differentiate people on another level of (dis)similarity- on one plane, between Europeans, and on another, more basal plane, Europeans from other races, such as Africans. While historically this happened "externally," meaning that Europeans were able to perceive this level of racial dissimilarity because they traveled abroad to meet those of other races, the same thing could be happening today "internally." As people from the Europe start to interact *en masse* with people from other racial groups, they might begin to perceive the differences their ancestors did centuries ago and begin to distinguish not just German from Pole, but European from non-European.
Yeah London's pretty terrible.
There's still a lot of interesting historical stuff to see there, but I really detest the feeling. Going around what is ostensibly the thriving capital of a European country just to see the grandeur of its past exploits and appreciate what it once was while having to systematically avoid witnessing its self-inflicted wounds is depressing. Visiting London is like visiting the grave of an erstwhile celebrated hero whose success bred a life so good he succumbed to suicidal apathy.
I'd almost recommend people go just to get a feel for that emotion- it really helps to crystalize our thoughts about all of this.
Good morning IE
It is way too early for effort posts ophiuchus
It's finals week fam
We in effort posting mode
One more final and I'm done with my degree!
That's awesome! Congrats
What did you major in?
Thank you! Really looking forward to have a bit more time to spend on both myself and IE.
I'm about to go through the opposite, lol. When my boy is born in January I probably won't be on as much
Completely understandable though. Wish you much luck with your child!
Is this your first?
Oh wow- how're you feeling?
Amused. He always starts wiggling right after I eat and I just had some breakfast so now I'm watching my stomach move like in the Alien movies
I was in Paris when I was like 12 and it was already Africa tier
@Isabella Locke-MT when are you due if you don't mind sharing?
But I have a feeling he might be a little early
You had breakfast at 3:50 AM?
My husband wakes up at 3 to get ready for work. Usually I'll eat a little something while he gets ready and then go back to sleep for 3-4 hours
I hope everything goes smoothly for you and the baby. I recall when my son was born. My wife was in labor for 23 hours 😫
First labors are usually pretty long
But then your body gets the hang of it
My mom's first (me) was a c-section, and her second was only 4 hours
she got off easy
When you have a wife and kids, you want to avoid c-section as much as possible
iirc scheduling c-sections was very en vouge in the 90s
because it let doctors schedule when their patients would give birth
C-sections will put you out longer. I was under the assumption that once you had one you could not have another baby delivered naturally.
Since you're cutting the uterus or wte
No, it's very possible to do a VBAC (vaginal birth after c-section)
But most doctors don't want to do it
and will fight you on it tooth and nail
I guess that's why they decided to discourage us from even getting a c-section in the first place
Yes, if at all possible, vaginal is better
c-sections dramatically increase the risk of placenta previa and placental abruption in later pregnancies
Placental abruption is where the placenta detaches from the uterus and your baby loses the ability to receive oxygen/nutrients
We lost our 3rd baby because the placenta partially separated from the uteran wall.
Aww, I'm sorry 😦
It's okay. It was 2014. It hit my wife much harder than me.
Yeah, we carry these little ones inside us for 9 months
It's a special connection
how many children do you have?
We have 3. First two are boys, 8 and 6, and a girl, 4
Funny, I'm actually getting surgery to undo my vasectomy
Why did you have one?
Yep, after our last child I was burned out.
I wish I didn't get it done but here we are
Nothing to do for it now
Except try to reverse it
Yep. I was lucky and our insurance will cover it.
It would be about $8,000 out of pocket to have the surgery
That is expensive. More expensive than my birth at the birth center. I decided to go with midwives instead of an OB/GYN because I didn't want them to pressure me into interventions I didn't want to have
The whole thing-prenatal, the birth and postpartum will be $5750
Crap that sounds a ton better than going through what me and my wife went through
I haven't had coffee so it's not my fault that sentence is terrible
btw, I don't know how you're managing without coffee or any caffeine.
I do have a little coffee a few times a week, usually 6-8 oz. It's safe to have up to 200 mg of caffeine
If you guys conceive again, I would look into the midwives in your area
I know she really wants to go to a midwife but it was pretty expensive at the time
I have heard so many stories of OB/GYNs blatantly disrespecting women's wishes that I don't ever want to birth at a hospital.
Imo, they treat pregnancy like a condition to be treated and not a natural process that women have been doing forever
Yeah, I think you're right. That's pretty messed up.
In hindsight, it was like that when my kids were born
My friend's sister had multiple miscarriages. I feel really bad for her because having kids is the one thing she wants more than anything else.
She finally managed to get to 7 months this time though so hopefully it works out.
Once you get past 3 months, the chances of miscarriage decrease dramatically
Miscarriages are heartbreaking 😰
Well I didn't expect to revisit bad memories in the morning lol
Lol it's fine. I'm making breakfast atm anyway
I've got to get my husband's lunch ready
Nothing is more awesome than having your lunch ready to go. Hate having to pack my own when I'm in a rush.
Yeah I usually get it ready for him, especially since I'm staying home. I really like doing it. I like making his coffee in the morning too but lately he's been getting up before me
Yeah, generally guys make the coffee, in my experience.
I don't know why but I've made coffee the majority of the time for my wife. Even when I didn't drink coffee. That's when we first started to live together.
@Isabella Locke-MT I was a stay at home dad for about 3 years so I was responsible for maintaining the house and kids in order. It's a job that you can't really "clock out"
Yeah that's true. But I think that's true for all parents. Once you have a little baby, there are really no sick days.
Even if you get a babysitter, there will always be the parent-mode in the back of your mind.
Definitely. Wondering if the baby is still okay, etc
Once you have kids, it's hard imagining life without them
I've wanted a baby so bad for about two years. We waited because money, school, etc. Finally I started a daycare job in April working with 2-3 yr olds and I pretty much broke down on my birthday in May and begged to start trying. I got a baby for my birthday 😊
That's really awesome, tbh. I think our(my wife and I) experience was a little less planned
We had our first son about 2 years after we got married.
It will be 3 for us
We've been together 5 years. Got married after 2. Our 3rd anniversary was in November, and our little boy will be born in January-mayyyybe early Feb if he is stubborn
That's really great news. It's uncommon for young adults in this time to get married "early" and have kids
I met my husband at 18 and will be 23 when Henry gets here.
I'm glad we started early
That's about the same as me. Met my wife when I was 19 and she was 17.
I feel like we've completely dominated general lol
Oh lol. Well, I didn't see anyone else posting
But I lurk almost all the time. Never really post anything, so there's that.
Husband is about to leave in 30ish minutes so I will probably go back to sleep for a bit. No use in having a regular sleep schedule right now since I'm about to have a newborn lol
every time I lay down this boy starts rolling around like his imaginary pants are on fire
Because he knows that mom is trying to sleep. Duh.
The midwives said that I'm basically rocking him to sleep when I'm up and moving around, so they get more active when you lay down since the rocking motion goes away
That was my wife's experience since she works as a nurse and on her feet all day
@netgearblackhawk The Ukrainians I grew up up around all get married super early
18 is pretty normal
@Jacob It seems like the culture here is pushing people to be promiscuous for decades.
Delay marriage and family
Encourage instant gratification, etc.
At the same time, guys are getting into relationships too early
If you're ready for marriage it's fine, but there's no reason to spend 20 years of your life dating starting in middle school
Maybe there's some compelling reason for this that I'm missing, but it seems counterproductive to me
Biologically we weren’t made to start being with opposite sex until our late 30s either. There’s a reason our bodies change in early teens...
I mean, it’s science
Women are most fertile in early 20s for a reason
Check out @JerusalemPostal’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/JerusalemPostal/status/1072341760133791744?s=09
I personally think men should have their lives together before thinking about relationships instead of rushing into it
So, what ever age that happens at is the right age
They should, but...
God they’re still after that guy in Strasbourg?
“Lives together” is subjective. One man can do a whole lot with his bare hands, while another only sees money as the important thing
A lot of things are subjective
Doesn't mean we shouldn't use our best judgement
Oh, I thought you were broadly talking about all men when you said "men are getting into relationships too early." Didn't understand you meant only some men when they're ready 😃
Speaking of bad parenting:
....ya, they may as well just let their toddler decide what they want for dinner, too. I hope they're all stocked up on chocolate cupcakes and hot dogs.
"TicToc by Bloomberg" oof
Good morning, all!
@Lily Lee - NJ Good morning. Beautiful picture. Makes me happy that this is what we glorify around here.
UK vote of no confidence today for May. who's going to take over if/when she gets the boot?
ah nvm, just saw the stormer article. ofc it's a jew
imagine not putting this guy in charge instead
Check out @cursedsalad’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/cursedsalad/status/1072678647469752320?s=09
similar to the study a year or two ago explaining why negroes beat their kids so often and so forcefully
remnants of muh slavery treatment
Epigenetics is real.
Victim complex is real.*
all this talk of ethnic servers.. I should just make an "inside the hajnal line server"
Worth reading. https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/12/the-fetishization-of-islam-in-the-west
The left, I suspect, visualize a world where their tactics have succeeded and no one is allowed to hold any differing opinions to their own.
A Bulgarian fren of mine is starting a European nationalist page. There’s some good cheese maps there lol https://www.facebook.com/European-Youngster-321709935316832/
Wouldn’t we have more epigenetic issues than the jews? European history is pretty rough.
Help guys my wars of religion and fall of Rome PTSD is kicking in!
To go along with setting up drives to help needy white people specifically
Metamorphosis made me misty eyed. Such a good video.
Made timely again with the acceleration in SA.
Uh, probably allergies instead
That Gladiator music produces an emotional torrent
So somber, yet tied to a hopeful longing
I like that one and I think 'The Wanderer' s Choice'
I forget the actual title
now tweet that about bibi's tweets and speeches in english
Lmfao. 98% of them (all but 1 want the same thing but they go on strike anyways)
These people are good content at this point.
Take that Hamas submarine fleet!
Wow <#481597551272001546> is giving a great reading list today, I will have to catch up.
I also came here to post one, just thought it was funny the blatant identity politics:
@Sam Southern - TN Bibi Netanyahu is the Prime Minister of Israel. He is not an American politician.
Why would Mark Dice tweet that about him?
Because he tweets and makes propaganda in a foreign language (English) to undermine our Republic
Which part are you not following
The part where he's trying to undermine our Republic. Outside of foreign aid I really don't see that for Bibi.
America's failure would be catastrophic for Israel.
ah yes, only just under 4 billion a year, barely a drop in the bucket
not to mention sending our soldiers to die and get maimed/ptsd in territorial wars for israel
Sure, it's an issue - but one that predates Netanyahu and expands much further into lobbying.
you may not like it, but for an Israeli, Bibi is pretty reactionary.
He's effectively an ethno-nationalist for his people.
having us fight his wars is undermining our republic whether you call it that or not
having us fund his nation is undermining our republic
having his people steal our military tech undermines our republic
he undermines our republic
Well, I wasn't really looking to get into an argument here, but many of these issues far predate Netanyahu - I absolutely agree they are concerns - two things I'd note.
a lot of these issues predate schumer
doesn't prevent marky from tweeting about it without remonstrations
that's not coherent to use as a point
Oh, okay then.
Israel simply takes advantage of the weak disposition that modern America already had, yes it's a bit immoral but how much can you really blame them? Particularly with their geopolitical position in the world, they have to rely on foreign powers for protection.
That being said, i'll admit that Israel has an absolutely terrible foreign policy when dealing with most countries.
Lol im not blaming them. But if mark is going to call out people for tweeting in foreign languages for the sake of propaganda, then why not also call out bibi for the same? Besides the obvious that he won’t challenge that particular hegemony, there’s no reason not to attack Bibi for exactly what he’s attacking Schumer for.
Because the right hates Schumer. It's a feasible target and a winnable victory. Mark Dice can safely attack an American politician with some amount of gusto without being defamed, losing his platform accusations of Anti-Semitism... Not so for Bibi
“Besides the obvious that he won’t challenge that particular hegemony”
My only point was that bibi is doing the same as Schumer ffs
Oh, I see.
I don't really see it as the same though. Bibi is a foreign leader - securing as much power and capital for his nation is his job.
Schumer should be representing his constituency and country. What Chuck is doing is worse.
Israel is getting pretty cozy with China.
Is bibi a foreign agent working to undermine the republic through the use of foreign language propaganda?
If so, it’s exactly what mark was calling out Schumer for.
"Is bibi a foreign agent working to undermine the republic through the use of foreign
No, he's trying to leverage it to his advantage. A weakened America would be disastrous for Israel.
Regardless, I feel like we are splitting hairs here.
We should try to remain pragmatic and focus on the possible and productive, instead of the unlikely unobtainable ideal.
The jq is a very complex high iq subject. I'm not sure Mark Dice is equipped to handle subject matter like that. Furthermore what would he have to gain from talking about Israel, if anything it will cost him.
Ah yes, it’s definitely not undermining us to fund the Israeli nation, to have them steal our military technology, and to have our people die in wars for them.
True enough, Sam.
Israel is a constant baseline for the MIC as well.
Ya know other than Afghanistan for decades.
*Frees your Palestine from the River to the Sea*
Friendship ended with IDF snoz-THOTs
Now Ahed Tamimi is my waifu.
Not even a steppe warrior princess
Half Swedish! Which is more Swedish than Sweden will soon be.
Rehabbing a house in the hood and constantly smelling weed
I wonder what the years-long effects of dudeWeedLMAO miasma over a neighborhood is. I thought about it getting lunch after DtR. Will kids raised in a lolweed city be dumber than clean counterparts?
Zionists HATE her.
See how one Nord Mutt triggers shills with one weird trick.
Okay I am done Ahed-posting
That mane though. 😳
I've only seen hair like that on girls with partial black ancestry
well it's really rare so I probably shouldn't even be using plural there lmao
RT! RT! RT!
CALLING ALL 9 YEAR OLD GAMERS!!
"The jq is a very complex high iq subject." is it though? I think most people could understand it if they had access to the information.
Pewds our lord and savior and gen z emperor needs our help.
I’ll call the gamers
Evil meanie Elon musk and his fancy car almost have more YT subs.
If he wins then Dora loses the quest
@TV It is a nuanced issue. Most people are incapable of thinking and acting with nuance.
And then Skyrim is over