@Jacob if we had done that, the IE space program would be a reality.

@Nemets you mean southeast asians?

@Nemets Well, I would say they are, depending on how specific you get. If you use 5 clusters, they're one race, but if you use 7, they're different.

@Nemets If you reduce things down to three races, yes, but Europeans are still a genetically and culturally distinct sub population

@Goldstein Riots Okay I just found Shawn's Youtube and he looks familiar. What was his Discord name?

or Persians

@Jacob can't recall.

He was at the times square action flexing on hwnd.

some Persians and Lebanese are white if you squint lol

and some are very nice and cultured and Westernized people

that’s why “ethnicity” is a more useful term a lot of the time

At the end of the day, white = European but a shift towards using European sounds so much better because it gets rid of "muh skin color" and allows for us to make it about heritage and identity more broadly

@TMatthews Evropean, thank you.

Idk how to phrase that really, but it's part of why I love the name IE

I agree with you on that

some people object though because apparently most normal Americans don't feel "European"

If we chose an America themed name but still obviously didn't allow nonwhites, it would give off 1.0 vibes. This is different. We're building our own brand

@Jacob I think as more people become aware of issues like immigration in Europe, they’ll identify or at least relate to Europeans a bit more

Identity Super Saiyan

(who are white)

Normal Americans haven't heard of identitarianism and that's okay. Much better than something like white nationalism which brings up imagery of skinheads/KKK in their minds.

@Nemets You are right. maybe a little Revolution / founding fathers factoids

@Alex Kolchak - NY This might be hard for people like us to put in perspective since we both have family that is fairly recently from Europe. I honestly don't know how some guy whose entire family has been here since the 17th century would feel about this.

If we introduce ourselves as identitarians, or even just as a European heritage group, it gives us the ability to define who we are to anyone curious about us. They don't have to think of themselves as European to think "they have heritage and activist groups for everyone else, so why not Europeans?"

European national identities developed in part thanks to faster means of communication and printed books which gave people a sense of shared history/language/etc

the same could happen with broader racial identity thanks to the internet

White identity worldwide is bigger now than any time since before the world wars, I would say. Even when it's negative (white guilt) it's being collectively applied even on nations that never owned colonies.

“oh hey the people in the next town over have the same language and religion, maybe we’re similar” - 18th and 19th century

“oh hey those folks in Europe and South Africa are being diversified by force too, maybe we’re similar” - 21st century

I’m simplifying, but you get the idea

The conspiracy theories about globalists faking an alien incursion to force one-world government have always interested/spooked me.

I don't like subverting national identities in Europe to a pan-European one. The future has to be one of nationalists cooperating across white countries. That's another reason why identitarianism is good. It doesn't say we all need to be one white superstate like RS would want

I think we should just have one big Montana

based

A "White NATO" is my suggestion.

Mutual defense pact

I think for America it's a bit different from Europe because most people still understand French, German, etc are white ethnicities while people believe American can be anyone

So we need to promote European-American identity specifically here

@Lawrence of Eurabia Texas is good too.

@Clayton_H_ATX did you know the ethnostate is actually in Texas?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vwgwpUcxch4

Aren't public schools in Texas like 2/3 nonwhite? Really sad stuff

@Alex Kolchak - NY the part of Texas I’m from is very much Czech/German

@Alex Kolchak - NY little German speaking settlements actually exist in other states, like Washington, too

I just learned about that and it’s really cool

Hutterites speak a dialect of German

ya, Hutterites

we have a few colonies here

Czech museums in Cedar Rapids, Iowa and Yukon, OK.

@TMatthews you’re not wrong, but there a many pockets of distinctly European cultures.

and the name “Pennsylvania Dutch” comes from “deutsch” not “dutch”

I have an ancestor who came from Germany to Pennsylvania in the 1700s

also, there are some pockets of NC where people speak a version of 1700s British English with some Southern pronunciation mixed in

@Jacob What’s the town in central Washington that’s known for its German heritage? I was stationed in whidbey island WA for a few years

My area celebrates there German/Czech heritage very vocally. I never appreciated the environment until now.

Their*

Leavenworth

PA has a substantial number of Pennsylvania German speakers, but it's mostly just the Amish/Mennonites now. Used to be common with normal rural folks

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelsverein

I'm not sure how much of that is genuine German heritage and how much of it is just due to being a tourist attraction

It's definitely a bit forced, not that that's a bad thing

It's a pretty cool town

Leavenworth, famous for the Thirty Mile Fire...

😔

Among other things, probably

no that's a different town

I just looked up where the fire was and it's pretty far north of Leavenworth

@Jacob I appreciated the place. Texas is very much known for its German populations though.

It seems like you're thinking of Winthrop, a wild west themed town

Oh. Hmmm. It was mentioned in Maclean's book. I think Fitzpatrick and the others stopped there on the way

Washington is truly a great place though. Minus Seattle

I like eastern Washington

eh, you'd have to minus a few other parts

Olympia

I like living in Eastern Washington

Sure. I used to camp out in Yakima

Pretty much the entire urbanized part of Western Washington is cancer

Float the Yakima river

and significant parts of Central Washington are Mexican

Yep. I actually didn’t enjoy living on the western part

Yeah, NW as a white homeland is highly unlikely

Montana is best bet tbh lol

For now

Unless something happens

Idaho, CO, MT

Eastern WA

Eastern Washington is really hit or miss

just use Sci-Hub lmao

There's 95% white counties, but there's also majority Mexican counties

Jacob what school are you arc

At*

Eastern Washington University

WSU?

Oh

Maybe. I don't want to pollute general with LARP. But if you are interested, DM me I have devised what I feel is the most realistic and scientifically parsed balkan scenario map

Graduating soon?

eh, not exactly

unfortunately I still have this year plus one more year left of college

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN it all begins at the local level I thin

One year ahead of me

Think

I graduate in May @Jacob

Keep at it brother

@Nemets Columbia Falls is a meth town

That high school has a huge drug problem

@Clayton_H_ATX That's good. Hopefully mine goes by fast.

This quarter went by like nothing

Columbia Falls is fairly conservative

And luckily the speed at which time goes by gets faster as you get older

@Jacob appreciate it, but just keep your head down

It’s a small town though

Be careful what you wish for

😬

I thank God every day I don't go to UW anymore

Ya I’m at Univ Tex

Very lib

UW was the worst time of my life. Not just because of politics.

Only highlight of that time was joining IE

@Nemets students reference easily identifiable characters in history, don’t be so black pilled brother

@Jacob yea, I visited UW. Not a fan of the environment, but I’m a west Texas boy. UT austin is outside my comfort zone

MacArthur wrote a pretty good book

Well non whites are 44%. And dumb whites probably push that to 51%

@Clayton_H_ATX You think I might actually miss college?

I loved working and not going to school during the Summer

TBH I am more distressed about Marilyn Monroe's pressence on above list. She may be white but she was just some drugged up ho that got DP'd by Kennedys

@Jacob not sure, what’s your plan after you graduate? Work? grad school?

I’m not a huge fan of college

@Clayton_H_ATX Definitely work

UW was the worst time of my life, but community college was pretty chill

I mean there will be things you miss. I just think we should appreciate what we have.

hmm

people told me the same thing about transferring

Always be preparing for the future, but be appreciative of where you are.

No place to park at UW. Really good SWPL brunch place near there though...

They made it sound like EWU is gonna be absolute hell compared to UW. As it turns out, there's nothing I miss about UW.

@Jacob The Coastie has contempt for all less miserable than they.

You did well to escape

If you’re happy that’s good. I hear just obtaining admission to UW is an accomplishment tho

Too many asians

You seem competent

lol for me it wasn't an achievement

UT Austin has so many Asians lol

I just had to write on my essay "my parents were immigrants give me admission lmao"

Low IQ J-leftists go to Evergreen

Where from?

Hahahaha

Evergreen

🅱oland

Evergreen is cancer

literally more liberal than UW

Cool shit man. Im mostly Irish

But we came here very early on

British Irish

A former coworker is/was a student there. I was getting redpilled during the Brett Weinstein fracas

Honestly trying to do computer science at UW was punching way above my weight

Brett Weinstein is cool, but those guys are too scared to take the leap

Affirmative action actually really sucks for the people that get admitted

Agreed

I effectively got in on affirmative action and some of the classes were too much for me

The heeb was mad I was posting Aydin Paladin and Sarg'n vidyas on Evergreen idiots. He was mad he and his fag heeb friends were being exposed, not sorry he caused mischief

CS is no joke anywhere man

Well here at UT it’s not a joke

We should have a General Patton poster

I am glad my current college is relatively based. Most of my profs carry lmao

I’m in Kin/Health but pursuing law

Wanted to be a PT

I was once arguing with a friend about IQ and he was like "so if they tell you your IQ isn't high enough for university and you should go to a trade school you would go?"

WTF? You'd be doing me a favor if university was too much for me and you stopped me from going. My friend acted all shocked that I would be fine with that.

I *wish* they denied me from UW because the computer science department there was way too much for me

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN where are you

I ended up wasting a year of my life and a bunch of money

@Clayton_H_ATX will dm

the virgin DM vs the chad posting address in general

Ok

Computer Science is a good major to have. Unlike my history major

Haha my BJJ instructor is currently on the phone with somebody about this last fight.

AKA retcon the fight.

Bc he has trained with these people before.

@Sam Anderson what belt are you?

I regret doing a computer science major

should have just done business or something

@Jacob keep your head up and moving forward

I mean now that I chose it I'm finishing it

but I would have done something else in hindsight

political science would have been really cool but my parents would have been infuriated lol

Sounds like good parents

I mean CS is good, but difficult.

no dude they take it too far

But you don’t have to fuck with grad school

to my mom, anything below a bachelor in STEM = living under a bridge

My dad dropped out of Columbia University after his 3rd year, and he does pretty well these days

Law?

Engineering

One time I mentioned that the political science major exists, didn't even suggest doing it, just said it exists, and my mom called me around 20 times in the span of an hour to yell at me

Ooo. Engineer is great

Jacob if you said you’re going Law would they mind?

Oh, no, that probably would have been fine. Anything that isn't a stereotypical "high paying" major.

I’m fortunate to have the military pay for my shit. But I’m going Law

Same

Military or law? Or both?

Lawrence

Military and maybe law, depends though.

Maybe I could ask them what majors they would have been okay with but I don't wanna get yelled at lol

Can’t be scared tho. Respectful, but not afraid

Just National Guard and now ROTC. So law is only a maybe

@Clayton_H_ATX lol you don't know my parents

True

No disrespect

I got yelled at for *saying a major exists*

But, you gotta own your future

I joined the military at 17. Nobody was telling me shit lol

Active duty

I can't own my future because I'm not financially independent. Stop listening to my parents = no more college money.

You were actually in the military then. National Guard is a joke, and ROTC is even worse

Yea, I would have been the same jacob

Yea I was a deep sea diver in the navy

And, honestly, I know it sounds dumb, but I'm kinda scared of pissing my parents off even financial stuff aside

That just shows you care about them

My dad is a hard ass so I can sympathize with that

He also works out a lot too

Not just a hard ass for no reason. Very successful

@Lawrence of Eurabia No, dude, I have a pretty bad relationship with my parents. It's more fear than anything. This Summer I lived with my mom and she literally attacked me with a broom and scratched me so hard that it bled. I don't even remember what the reason was.

You need the military bro

Idk,

I shouldn’t say that

Undercover recruiter

It worked out for me, but I was also an athlete and wanted to go do cool shit

Nahhh man lol

Im out totally.

It just set me up

That’s my plan with it. It’s a good way to start your life

Pretty sure the military doesn't allow dual citizens lol

Bro.

well if there are a bunch of illegals in the military im sure they'll be okay with you

This ☝🏼

They’ll take anyone

You do you.

But they set me up

You'd think they'd be more concerned about infiltrators and spies

They should be

But the gov is incompetent

@Jacob Military absolutely allowed dual citizens dude. They allow NON-citizens to join. I work with two Philipino dudes who served in the military to get citizenship

Gotta be special forces

Didn’t some Chinese guy steal a bunch of stuff from the Navy a few years back

@Sacramento oh you're right

https://twitter.com/factualface/status/1071637574903578624?s=21

Uhh what

Is this b8

SF would be fun

You gotta be ready tho

look, in either case, I'd feel like a traitor to my family's homeland if I did it

It’s no joke

😶

Why?

@Trashboat wtf

I didn’t do anything but dive under ships