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I made it as a containment board so I don't Slavpost too much here. Hasn't really been working out. I should probably use it more.
Not like anyone is interested, but Spencer has made a serious ass of himself on Heelturn
Tonight
Didn't watch iata
It
Calling Patrick and Fuentes โlosersโ who arenโt serious and may or may not have ill intentions. Called into the question the necessity of the optics debate and how he says it was stupid
And this is all from the egotistical bastard who has made a poop stain on the movement through his attempt to make the political movement his catwalk on the runway
Has Eric Striker commented on IE?
Spencer is just a Drunk
And he lectures about optics as he wears a denim jacket and has a cloud looming over his head that include allegations of him dragging his wife down the stairs by her hair
So yeah we should really take note from him
He has casted himself into the abyss of irrelevance
OH IT GETS BETTER
Richard spencer is a White man of poor character Patrick Casey is a White man of Good character
well, we are pretty good looking so I don't blame him for that impression
In typical Spencer fashion, he makes one critical comment after another about the movement and people in it and what we should be doing.
When someone asked him straight up - โWhat should we specifically be doing that we are not seeing, in your opinion?โ
He paused and said โthatโs a good questionโ
He made himself look like such a buffoon and idiot
Because he is one
Spencer's fun to meme on but at the end of the day he's an irrelevant doofus, who's had his 15 minutes of fame
I'm gonna be the devil's advocate and say Richard WAS right in his prediction for the mid term
"ha, not falling for it, IE, this is clearly a photoshoot with models"
I mean, I don't even disagree with you guys it's just that when I watch him on JFG he has good points and I don't think he's an idiot.
Egotistical but he knows his shit
Second from left is me before keto so I look even better now
@Jacob I can get you a few more people to play if you wanna play eu4 Some time
After finals Iโm free for a month or so
That would be cool
I'm on Winter break right now until the 7th of January
@ExternalPepsi He's good at peppering up his points with idealistic glitter, but if you look at the substance of what he's actually saying, it's nothing all special. Furthermore even that goes out the window if you fracture his incredibly fragile ego.
@Virgil Nick Fuentes offers substantially less substance than even Richard tho...
Did he just say bigger than the JQ?
Yowzer.
whats bigger than the jq?
WQ
"Its more taboo than the JQ" being proud of your race. Isn't that an aspect of JQ?
eh not necessarily
Look, calling him an idiot may have been overblowing it. He has good points, he is a very different and dynamic thinker
the ideology of liberalism is
However, as a leader and as an agent involved in a political movement , he is poison
And egalitarian society
liberalism is the greatest threat bc it is anti-identity
those who follow it are disarming themselves
Yes. But I see that as tentacle not larger than the oppression.
@Undercover Academic - IL that's a fair and good criticism
Identity Evropa men and women have "The Right Stuff" for the future of white people ๐
liberalism enables the current conditions we are in. without it, other groups would not be a threat
it is the source of our oppression
other groups take advantage of the situation to their benefit
but they are only able to do so bc of liberalism
Hmm, I see liberalism as a tribal tactic.
a tribal tactic? its explicitly anti-tribal
I think he's talking about "the" tribe
in liberalism, we see the primacy of the individual and the universalization of man. if you believe in the universal notion of 'man' and his/her interchangeability with any other man on the planet, you're a liberal. most europeans, especially americans, are liberals.
liberalism, particularly the american version of it, was born without jewish subversion
its become an abstract horror that is devouring us now
Judeo-christian...
the founding fathers were not jews
they were something far worse
anglos
I used to like Spencer, but in DnD terms despite his high Intellect his Wisdom is lacking. I slowly came to despise him because he is lazy, arrogant and wasteful.
No, they were not. Lol duh
Liberalism's gotten a bad rap because of neoliberalism. In a functional european society, individual rights, freedom of expression, etc. are not inherently bad. You can't blame the founders for not anticipating a 56% country when they made this shit
europe prior to the revolutions was not some totalitarian society. 17th century England was quite nice
I heard Spencer slept with Gregory Ritter's GF
do "rights of man" have to be explicitly stated and governance democratized to have a nice society?
Or whatever that guy's name is that was doxxed
oh I've heard much more than that
@Isabella Locke-MT yeah its a tad more
Greg Conte. He seems decent
very degenerate
Oh yeah
from what I know, anyway
got the name mixed up
Conte is actually pro IE
I still like Conte, he's a fellow historian and deserving of better treatment
no, Ritter was his pseudonym
@reactionarytree no, the liberalism that we have now isn't the same. That means something has corrupted it.
youโre not wrong @Isabella Locke-MT
Be sure to floss before bed ๐
part of liberalism is the belief in progress in the hegelian sense. neoliberalism/globalism/americanism is just part of the natural progression of liberalism
Ohh okay
until their utopian goals have been achieved i.e. total destruction of all meaning in the world
@reactionarytree let me dm you.
slide into my dms
ok hot
Democracy is a gateway drug to communism
U knw it.
@MrDefault Conte was such a sycophant for Richard Spencer that he tried to have a friend of his fire me from employment when I refused to go along with his pathetic attempted takeover of IE and subsequent ill founded "operation homeplate".
Obviously he does not have the same view as Richard, now - but that is how he was then. Not a good person.
i've read kmac, sunic, dugin, de benoist. i get the jq, believe me. however, we need global revolution against liberalism
Been reading this very good, non pozzed biography of Napoleon
And conservatism @reactionarytree
We need a new awakening
A new renaissance
@Papa Pizzagate wow. Boy was my impression of him wrong
when i use the term "liberalism" i am referring to liberals, progressives, libertarians, conservatives, etc
@Papa Pizzagate wow I didn't know that
It needs to be a rebirth of the Western mind
Got it
The general โprogressiveโ view of the world
Conservatives are like that from a materialistic POV
@Papa Pizzagate ooosssh. I never knew that. I think he learned the hard way to pick better friends. All I remember is hearing somethings in the grapevine about him being pro IE.
Itโs like 75% of Americans are living pay check to pay check and conservatives are like, โbut you have an iPhone and a big TVโ
Well, yeah I purposely keep a low profile, but it absolutely happened to me. I was fired from work, did some contracting work for a good friend of his. Once I refused to go along with their plans, he called that friend to have me fired (friend said "no" lmao)
That is really sick
Idk how people do that
@MrDefault Someone who is that bitter and frankly evil towards a fellow "pro white" will certainly do it again.
I was an ideal activist, dedicated, intelligent, loyal, and doxed. He tried to get a doxed activist fired. remember that.
@Papa Pizzagate Thats disgusting. All for a silly power play smh.
@Nemets @reactionarytree might be your guy to ask.
im not sure. tbh, supporting Ukrainian nationalism is to support the CIA and Zionists against Putin.
well... idk about *that.* Ukrainian nationalism, even in the 20th c. alone, goes all the way back to the Russian Revolution.
Azov is literally funded by Mossad and CIA
source?
Iโm genuinely interested
They also supported pro-EU protests lmao
I honestly don't know if Azov guys are malicious or just dumb
touchรฉ.
I think the guys at the top are malicious and the regular members are edgy teenagers who need an adrenaline rush
If you like Azov, you like jews dicks in your butt
you take the help you can get
they're not malicious. they're opportunistic. the CIA & Mossad are looking for someone to back to fight against Russia
if that means TAR-21s, then...
G E O P O L I T I C S
@reactionarytree careful with the thumbnail images embedded in article links which contain imagery we do not allow here.
It's not so much the fact that they took the help that's the issue. The issue is the fact Israel saw them as an ally in the first place is a huge red flag. @Alex Kolchak - NY
To think Israel wonโt turn on them as soon as possible
@Jacob yes but consider that Israel also has good relations with Poland and Hungary. Are we really going to say that both of their governments are Zionist puppets?
Don't forget the USA is backing them as well. That's worse than Israel backing them
there's probably more zionists in the usa than israel lol
look, there are issues with how Israel conducts itself. But itโs important to not conflate those with the influence of diaspora populations in western countries
american christians are rabid zionists
Israel isnโt some global puppetmaster, itโs just a bad ally that pursues its own agenda at the expense of regional (and international) stability
which is admittedly a problem
they are more zionist than most zionists
The Eternal Dutchman
well all of western europe is essentially part of the american empire. its no surprise you see rainbows and mcdonalds golden arches there as well
@Alex Kolchak - NY The Polish government is nowhere near as based as people like to meme, and I don't think Poland has particularly strong relations with Israel.
Western Europe is occupied territory
I said good relations, not necessarily strong
American Christians are suuuper cucked. Lady pastors and pro lgbtqia faggetry.
they are a conquered people and being fed the american liberal toxin
like, they mostly get along
Well, every country "get's along" if they have no strong reason not to
Poland has decent relations with North Korea, too
๐
lol I'm serious
it's one of the few countries that has an embassy there
basically, every country "gets along" with the USA or they possess WMDs or are the next hitlerist regime that must be stopped
based and nazbolpilled @Jacob
thats how diplomatic relations work in the world
you're under the American boot or you're going to be facing down the barrel of an American rifle
Poland and North Korea actually have trade relations and do both imports and exports
lmao is "North Korean cuisine" even a separate thing?
I guess regional cuisines exist, so it would make sense
@reactionarytree bear with me here: the point Iโm trying to make is the Jewish state and the Jewish diaspora are somewhat distinct groups that are somewhat at odds with each other
so just because Israel supports a nationalist movement somewhere does not mean said movement is automatically just a globalist puppet
but it is a globalist puppet
there is ample evidence to the contrary
Zionists and Globalists often have overlapping interests when it comes to geopolitics
hence, all the wars in the middle east
Iโm not some Azov fanboy. I think the Ukraine-Russia conflict is a depressing brother war brought on by belligerence and corruption on both sides
How is Azov not a globalist puppet? the CIA was literally funding them
Poland exports meat, mechanical tools, electronic tools, and clothes to North Korea, while North Korea exports fish. Polish also provides small grants to North Korea for farming and medicine. Both maintain embassies in each other's countries.
the CIA funded RW juntas in latin america, were all of them globalist puppet shows? RW juntas sound better than the basically commie regimes they were replacing, even though I despise the CIA
Yes lol
neither Putinโs govt nor Ukrainian nationalists are particularly amazing tbh
look at Chile now- its full of sodomites and McDonalds
sounds based
What interest would Israel have in support a genuine nationalist movement in Ukraine? It would make zero sense. Especially since Azov glorifies Nazi collaborators.
Azov is cringe and blue pilled
@Nemets good point, I hadnโt thought of that
most neo-nazis are
I see
Azov is Ukrainian NSM
exactly so Azov is cringe and blue pilled
@Jacob not really. Itโs an official Ukrainian national guard unit now
Israel funds the NSM to be globalist puppets? really?
maybe if the CIA funded Jeff Schoep then he'd be the next president of the USA lol
@Sam Southern - TN Well, if you feel threatened by nationalism, it would make sense to fund bad optics groups
Objectively a Russia aligned Ukraine will be a greater threat to he globalist elite than an "independent fashy ukraine"
guys, you know there are shades of nuance between โbasedโ and โcringe,โ right?
Nope
No in between
consider the following: the CIA is shitty, our govt is evil and they will get in bed with anyone around the globe if it means scoring a geopolitical victory
@reactionarytree Russia works the exact same way, either you conform to the Kremlin or you face down the barrel of a gun. The Ukrainian conflict has multiple different complex sides, so summing it up as NATO jews fighting based Putin, isn't really accurate. If you are fighting a war like Azov, and the most powerful military in the world offers you intel and funding, would you really deny them? Especially if you are fighting Kremlin proxy forces?
idk how "not anti-Russia" Azov is when they loot civilians and glorify Stepan Bandera
Good to see you here @reactionarytree
living in Russia and dealing with the daily bureaucratic corruption and dysfunction somewhat dispels the โbased putinโ meme
I get that nuance exists, but, I mean, it's like saying "we gotta be more nuanced about Atomwaffen"
@reactionarytree I havenโt seen you in a while.
Of course that is how Russia behaves. The real question is who do you side with: somewhat trad, somewhat nationalist Russia or globo-homo tranny jew dicks with big macs USA
@Jacob yes, if Atomwaffen was a brigade-sized military unit thatโs part of a countryโs official military
One day in the future history students will be so confused by all of this, and probably just conclude it was a game of thrones style cluster
@Kingfish That's true. So, logically, it would make sense for Ukrainian nationalists to seek improved relations with Russia rather than this cringy "fashy Ukraine" that just pisses off everyone.
It doesn't even matter whether Azov and their allies are based or not The Western powers could topple that shit easy if they don't have Russia propping them up
Azov can form a giant brigade bc they got all that CIA-Mossad money.
@Alex Kolchak - NY this but unironically
@Jacob plenty of reasons for Ukrainians to be upset with Russia
normal ones, not just these CIA-Mossad Ukrainians I keep hearing about
You can be upset, but glorifying people with Bandera and intentionally cutting trade relations is just dumb
USA just wants to use Azov to get a foothold in the region to prevent Russia and Europe from uniting to fight against globalism
i don't get what's wrong w bandera? he is condemned by Jews and the European parliament, those are two groups I wouldn't be against condemning people that we stand with lol
@reactionarytree That's an oversimplification of events, the Kremlin's ideology primarily revolves around enriching the elites that are a part of it, if the Russian populace would let the Kremlin get away with it, they'd be promoting globohomo just as vehemently as the West. Based Putin and nationalist Kremlin are memes and fairly far from the truth.
looks like dude just tried and failed and tried and failed to create an independent Ukraine
UPA ethnically cleansed Polaks, and the story actually makes sense, unlike some other genocides in history
why would that change ukranian views on the guy
these perfidious Russian oligarchs were those who sold out the Russian people following perestroika reforms
If it was 100% certain that an independent Ukraine would be right wing and ally with other European right wing states to fight the globalists I'd support it. Fact of the matter is that's less likely than Russia utilizing a propped up Ukraine to do it instead
they sold out Russia to the West
@reactionarytree some of the oligarchs were forced out by Putin, others were integrated into the regime
andrew jackson "ethnically cleansed" the amerindians from america, i love the dude,he's my favorite president. him being a part of some boo hoo "ethnic cleansing" doesn't mean dick to my opinion of him
Well, even from a self interest perspective, it's not very smart to glorify some guy whose army went around murdering civilians
@Nemets oh god
yes, Putin is not backed by the oligarchs. they are not a monolith in Russia. Putin has played hardball with them
James K. Polk was best
@reactionarytree again, some of them. Plenty of oligarchs and special interests still around in Russia. Usually at the people's expense
Andrew Jackson didn't arbitrarily kill them, he negotiated separation between groups so they stop fighting. He was objectively a good guy. @Sam Southern - TN
Doesn't the majority of that block basically want to ally the west though
Furthermore the Kremlin is flooding Russia with cheap central Asian Muslim labor, at the expense of the ethnic Russian tax payer. So is Putin even a quasi-nationalist in practice?
Who would win out though
I'd support an Intermarium it's just unlikely
@Kingfish Yes, these "nationalists" are nationalists in name only. They literally supported pro-EU protests lmao.
and the west could topple a single ukraine anyway
at the end of the day, you have to pick a side: USA or Russia. USA has made it explicitly clear they would like to destroy people like us. and the notion of us vs the world is fantasy
I support Russia propping it up because it seems to be the most likely and secure strategy for fighting our enemies
@reactionarytree you are aware that you live in this country and are kind of stuck with it for the time being?
a more powerful Russia is a less powerful European Union and NATO
Azov is so based that due to the coup they supported, you're more likely to die of starvation in Ukraine than Libya
what kind of cucked idiot is choosing to ally with a foreign nation and a foreign people over their own nation and people lol
the usa is more than the suits in offices
Yes, I live under the tyranny of oligarchs. That doesn't mean I should support them at all.
Maidan really ran that country into the ground
I like Russia, it's part of my heritage, but I'l live and die an American (even if that means disagreeing with the current state of things)
Just because we live in the USA doesn't mean we should want Zio-Globalists to be successful in their endeavors
in fact, I hope they fail
yes, we're all very upset about the *checks notes* Zio-Globalists, but there lots of shades of grey when it comes to Eastern Europe and nationalist movements there
@reactionarytree I think you could have stated that better. It's not "America" that's the problem right now, it's the current government in America. In that case, yes, you're right, we don't want them gaining any more power around the world.
I trust Putin to behave like a KGB agent, and nothing more or less
When Putin wins, Americans win, Globalists lose
yeah I don't want the globalists to win either, but in your established dichotomy of siding with russia (with whom I have nothing in common, no ethnic relation, no religious affiliation, no national affiliation) or the usa (my literal country), I'm picking the usa every time ffs
@TylerHess agreed
Azov gang raped a mentally disabled man. Not much nuance to be had.
@reactionarytree that's just not accurate
Not really, there are more than two sides in international politics. Oversimplifications like that tend to lead to mindless Kremlin shilling and the Kremlin is not in line at all with our ideology.
perhaps not but I sure as hell am not siding with our hostile elites
the Russian elite isn't exactly friendly for the average Russian, either
I don't support Kremlin shilling but you can acknowledge that Azov is seriously deranged without being a Putin bot
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