Colorado can keep their water then.

@Bogl - CA Cali transplant REEEEE
jk, i wish all on the right in cali would move so we could extend the wall

My bank has 5 tellers on a shift 4 are typically Latina

20 years is all it took

White women are turning to drugs or leaving my hometown

The combination of immigration and white flight in these small rural farming towns is terrifying

@Goose its funny I was looking at some stats the other night that showed on average, a Californian political refugee was more likely to be a conservative than the average person of the new state.

ok, I have to ask: who is Tara and what should we expect from her reign as supreme dictator of IE?

Blaming Californians for turning a state blue is an excuse to ignore demographic change wrecking your state.

Oof

Take that Texas

I mean, normal Californians voted for Prop 187, right?

@Bogl - CA cheap land here, come on down fren

i just hate cali college kids

Remember to exercise today!

literally the ones pulling down statues

Whites overwhelmingly voted I'm support of 187

Red pill me on prop 187

it would have denied most public services to illegal immigrants

this is also known as *common sense*

it passed, then was shut down by the courts

Yes, it would have saved us.

I always thought border security was non partisan common sense oh how things have changed

It even made public workers report them.

so white Californians were actually pretty based by voting for it

Silver lining for sure

From my understanding, the only "race" to vote against it was hispanics.

Any non-violent political action that reduces the non-white population in the United States wth Due Process is necessary.

>when even blacks get that mass/illegal immigration displaces them too

Anyone else notice a trend with libertarians becoming increasingly anti Trump? I suppose this is the natural way of things but it still caught me off guard. They seemed to be behind him to a degree vs Hillary

I thought that was always the case?

I’m starting to think they’re all just contrarians

The reality that Mexicans have already made it past CA, AZ, TX, on to the Midwest, South, and beyond is 😡

@Alex Kolchak - NY further proves the point we need top down outting of these traitor judges

correct

@William Russell i've actually noticed the opposite

Their autism (no v because I mean it in a degrading way) prevents them from getting past their moral abstractions and looking at the real world. @William Russell

I used to donate to most of the major libertarian orgs. Their irrational opposition to Trump in board meetings was the final straw.

CA also voted against gay marriage with prop 8 #notallCalifornians

also re: Libertarians... a lot of them are just dudeweedlmao types who'll drop their superficial opposition to large government when confronted with any kind of nationalism/ideology that requires a spine

I actually see more libertarians leaving than joining

Maybe the broader libertarian party is split on Trump

when they propped up gary johnson i bailed

note: this does not apply to Libertarian-minded identitarians/nationalists

The student orgs are at an all time low. Students for Liberty has been an abysmal failure.

I think a lot of it died with the hipster phase we experienced lol

Libertarians with over the top beards

do we have any other guys in Young Republicans?
i could use advice on running our chapter

Jeffrey Tucker is oddly sympathetic to the identitarian right in private conversation.

@Goose I was president of our chapter at one point, dm me if you'd like. I don't claim to be an expert but maybe I can help

Non-Citizens are not entitled to due process.

Civic rights aren’t natural rights.

@missliterallywho I actually voted on Prop 8 only for it to be tied up in court and shut down years later.

This guy turned all the libertarians in Tennessee into cucks

He’s a public figure

There are still good libertarians however - Tom Woods for example

Which Prop8 @Bogl - CA the gay prop 8?

Or a newer one

I suppose it varies based on leadership state to state

Newer one.

Oh...ok

Ooops

nm

@William Russell 7%? i too like to live dangerously <:coolpepe:366743374105018368>

I meant gay one.

Oh the party has been embarrassing for years. Most good libertarians never participated in that.

@Bogl - CA Kritarchy has been the ruling ideology in CA for a long time. When people say CA is our future, it starts with kritarchy. 9th circuit must be neutured, asap!

I voted yes on it, regretted it during my libertarians days, realized I was right later on.

Oh! The gay one I was for it. When they started chanting "No on H8!!!" I was all in.

Remember that guy that took his shirt off at the National Conference or something? Lol that was the turning point

Ha!

https://youtu.be/9xaStuzYnAc

Sorry bout your eyes

Ah I miss Ron.

Part of me wants to help vote in the most ridiculous garbage, just to leave this place a pile of rubble when I leave.

His wife Carol made the best brownies.

James weeks was a visionary. All political candidates should be judged on their phiseek

Whittaker for permanent AG 💪 <:chad:359013583469805568>

The current state of the Libertarian party

And Gary Johnson losing his cool over the term “illegals”

He is a pothead fraud.

Unironically though, if you can't take care of your body how can you take care of your nation?

It all started with the Asians out in Cali

“You who would reform everything, start with yourselves, surely that would be enough.” - Bastiat

birth right citizenship is propped up due to a court case out of Cali regarding Chinese citizenship

1899 or something

@Nemets you read books bro?

It all started with cheap Chinese labor 🚂 *toot toot*

@Nemets it’s a shame we are relearning stuff we already knew a century ago

@Alexander Pechorin "Clean your room"

There’s some truth to that. The gross spectacle of “environmentalists” who can’t clean up their own streets in SF is one.

@Alexander Pechorin Light hearted joke, but I totally agree.

MT gang is brewing up some 🅱ig eco-activism for 2019 🌲

Old school environmentalism actually made sense. It wasn’t about hating whites or civilization and subsidizing big green companies.

Trve environmentalism is more white babies, closed borders, and an end to foreign aid

I can dump studies on environment and immigration if anyone wants

didn't the Sierra Club used to be anti immigration?

Yes

https://cis.org/Sussis/Brief-Chronology-Sierra-Clubs-Retreat-ImmigrationPopulation-Connection-Updated

Or you can just visit a third world country. I rented a home on the coast of Ecuador a few years back. Trash washing up on the beach. No whites to clean it up.

Making money>protecting environment this is true with the white farmers down south

Go on any random Indian Reservation and there's trash everywhere

Is there a number as far as household income where people start to care about the environment?

A lot of waste due to subsidies unfortunately. Soy is dirty to produce, and overproduced because of funding.

Well when environmentalism is framed as some globalist agenda instead of “clean your backyard and your neighborhood” then it won’t be something for lower to middle classes

Globalist environmentalist is a luxury

@Alexander Pechorin I have not thought of it this way before

Well said @Alexander Pechorin

Like dispose of your old car batteries correctly level environmentalism

Clean your ~~room~~ backyard *picture of American open spaces*

J Peterson, get on this

You don’t get near the virtue signaling power from picking up your backyard lol

When we did the LA River cleanup it was nearly all middle class whites volunteering

More Johnny Appleseed, less Solyndra

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Appleseed

More Aldo Leopold

What other people plants gardens just because they look nice?

@William Russell I couldn't find the answer to your income question but I found something else interesting while I was looking

Whatcha got?

https://www.jstor.org/stable/24707060

We present a theory of the basis of support for a social movement. Three types of support (citizenship actions, policy support and acceptance, and personal-sphere behaviors that accord with movement principles) are empirically distinct from each other and from committed activism. Drawing on theoretical work on values and norm-activation processes, we propose a value-belief-norm (VBN) theory of movement support. Individuals who accept a movement's basic values, believe that valued objects are threatened, and believe that their actions can help restore those values experience an obligation (personal norm) for pro-movement action that creates a predisposition to provide support; the particular type of support that results is dependent on the individual's capabilities and constraints. Data from a national survey of 420 respondents suggest that the VBN theory, when compared with other prevalent theories, offers the best available account of support for the environmental movement.

>420 respondents
<:really:453005408064241674>

Seems to be what @missliterallywho and @Alexander Pechorin were getting at right?

TL;DR: Willingness to support a political movement depends on (1) people agree with the basic premises, (2) people feel like that there is a genuine threat, and (3) people believe that they can do something about it

I was thinking start small and grow outwards

@missliterallywho 420 is not a bad sample size as long as it is representative of the general population. Or did you just think it sounds funny because of the number?

Sounds like the impetus behind the identitarian movement

Most people seem to have a prob with 3

Maybe

@Jacob joke implying environmentalists are *green* in more ways than one

oh lmao

I don’t see anything I do making a difference when there’s Delhi and Beijing doing their thing.

Maybe Identitarianism is making the difference like someone suggested

I find that a lot of my friends are a problem with number 2. So often it happens that they'll agree with all my premises, but they're still liberal because they don't feel threatened

Global environmentalism requires very different actions than national environmentalism

I’d never separated the two. I’ve always thought of environmentalism as a global thing

I’m expanding the way I think

I have a friend who hates Trump and she was able to summarize my talking points in a very fair way and didn't even claim that they were invalid. She just doesn't give a shit because she doesn't feel threatened yet.

Appreciate you guys

We should be focusing on preserving American wilderness. Immigration is the biggest threat.

Our education system def frames it as a global crisis

National Eco action should be maintaining topsoil, opposing Big Ag, and reducing population density. Global Eco action would be war with China

@Jacob I see your point. Your right my goal is to persuade. My persuasion method to pull them to my world view. But I am no great expert, that us just my personal tactic.

PSA: don't confront orcs about littering

Talking to my friends is like that Spongebob meme where the superhero guy tells Patrick a bunch of statements and Patrick is like "sounds about right" but at the end he still disagrees

I'll have friends accept every single fucking premise and at the end still by like "Drumpf lol"

It’s what the cool kids are doing.. according to Late night TV

@Jacob um i beleive that's ManRay you're referring to <:really:453005408064241674>

🍊 👱 👹

I mean honestly, I prefer this kind of mentality to outright denying the premises

It's a step

@Goose dude I haven't seen that show in like a decade

no excuses

That Texan Squirrel immigrated to bikini bottom fleeing the Latino invasion

A lot of these people would probably switch sides if they get enough social permission too

That’s what I was getting at with late night tv

@William Russell we must rebuild atlantis

Their drumpf views are constantly validated

I’d love to see some photos showing the environmental catastrophes in the countries sending us the most migrants

Tijuana

Posters* not photos

I was actually really pleasantly surprised when I asked my fairly strongly anti-Trump friend something along the lines of "be honest, do you secretly know that I'm right and you're just afraid to agree?" and the answer I got was "I don't know"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLT_4R39-Zc
haiti

And she knows I'm full on ethnonationalist, so it's not like I was asking if she agrees with civic nationalism

@Alexander Pechorin there is another route we could go with environmental activism outside of cleanups

That’s more PR than raising consciousness around root causes

To have someone go from "#DumpBlumpf" to "ethnic nationalism *might* be correct" is a pretty huge step

@Jacob I've had similar situations with friends of mine, but they are just hardwired to believe everything put in them as kids in school

I like the idea about raising awareness of the environmental cost of immigration I don’t think it’s something we’ve done

philippines

It’s easy for the Europeans.. look at Paris

Apparently Chinese tourists are just as bad as any immigrant when it comes to public urination and littering

Reminder that there are microplastic particles floating around in your testes

@William Russell my South Korean boss hated the Chinese and called them dirty dogs.
she was a nice old korean lady, until she wasn't...

Lol I suppose it’s an uniquely Chinese problem. There are signs all over Paris in Mandarin

Uh oh 1%... it is time

^ Cultural enrichment. 👌 @William Russell

I'll just take a wild guess those lefty rags don't point out why (third world desert people) they need public urinals now. <:really:453005408064241674>

They simply spin it as "a modern problem" (multiculturalism) and a great way to help the environment.

300 on the bench today. Challengers?

@hbutzer0511 Same here for one rep man. How many did you do?

ever notice how it's liberal cities that are always the most filthy?

Yes

I'm guessing Tiquana is probably because of the invaders...er "caravan".

Old article

The natives there aren’t much better

Tijuana is race and IQ

I know, just saying.

Migrant caravan might have Jewish ngos helping to keep them clean.

"They aren't sending their best..."

Maybe they are...

Just watched that video from a few hours ago where the teacher moved the class bacsue the kid had a MAGA hat, the fact people think its appropiate to do things like that, I also think its funny the teacher said it wasn't about his views, its the hat, the kid says 'what if I find pink offensive' and the girl says pink isn't racist, is it about the hat or his views my guy

ntm the teacher called the student an asshole...

i'm still searching for the school

Do you know if its actually recent?

I can’t comprehend all these twitter accounts bad mouthing IE “what have you done in 2 years” what other org post maga has evened sustained itself for 6 months

IE is dae wey

Unfortunately the online alt right is full of do-nothing losers who posture about the glory of white culture but do nothing to participate in it or create it.

Think of all the other nationalist groups

TWP

Vanguard America

Patriot Front

Proud Boys

League of the South

NSM

How many of them are still functioning?

@Alexander Pechorin that is so true

4/6 still exist to my knowledge. NSM is probably feds, so that makes only 3

I see so many WNs online who all spout how much they care but do nothing to unify or change it

Proud Boys are going through a shitshow right now

https://youtu.be/tRyJ3Pm5vb4

Patriot Front is new and doesn't really count

The Soldiers of Odin in sweden are impressive

As is Nordic Front

I'm taking about actual direct competitors

Patriot Front hasn't done a successful event in ages. As soon as they got attention, antifa infiltrated them.
Vetting is paramount

Does League of the South do anything?

@SuperTomPerry -RI Soldiers of Odin are in America as well (i used to be a state leader)

@Axel I did it twice on the Smith machine. You can do more I think because it balances it for you.

Oh i joined the conversation late, i thought we were just naming like groups

oh there was Anticom

that fell apart

@hbutzer0511 300 on Smith is still good though. Just make sure you're tucking your elbows like you would on regular.

@Axel 🤔👍

League of the South isn’t doing well right now.

@Asatru Artist - MD thats awesome, they are one of my fav groups which if i had it to do again, would of joined them

There was a group called Identity Vanguard that never ended up doing anything

Yeah there are thousands of fake groups lmao

Not that i wouldnt of came here, but rather that I think its so vitally important to protect our women as they do

Words mean nothing, action is everything

https://twitter.com/politico/status/1067895628460683265

*dabs*

Madness lol

@Jacob LOS is a wignat shit show unfortunately

Supposedly they have 9,000 members

Literally burning talmuds for publicity

But they've been around since 1994

Leadership is constantly making threats and weapon posting on twitter as well

I wonder where IE will be 24 years from our founding

I chose this org for the long game.

🤷‍♂️🤔🤔

Kangz

lol remember when Vanguard was our biggest competitor?

I think they transitioned into patriot front. I could be mistaken tho

no, Patriot Front split from them

Oh gotcha

With this 19 year old greasy haired dude at the helm