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Degenerates.
wasn't it 12 in some Mexican states until recently?
Probably.
The thing is, they donโt really follow the laws they do have.
I lived in Mexico for a summer. Supposedly guns are illegal unless youโre part of a gun club. But they just shoot them all night long every single night.
Is there any way we can just fast-forward to the part where we all live in an episode of Miami Vice with only White people?
Cryogenics โ๐ป
No black sidekicks?
that isn't our proper environment @Bjorn - MD cold, or you aren't white!
Hot take
Big brained take: Trump used tear gas against illegal Mexicans so Putin can annex Crimea
That person is a real potato aren't they?
Hot take wrapped in ice
@Nerv - VA ๐
Lol at that screen name
@Asatru Artist - MD Sweden with Somalis, or 100% HuWhite Florida...? ๐ค
<:really:453005408064241674>
Sweden of course!
<:teehee:381917632359563264>
Talking about hot takes with a side of retard:
*"The Pilgrims Were Queer"*
http://archive.is/VJqYI
Sweden, YES
@Freiheit - CA Sodium acetate take
Odd
Norway is Sweden but without the all the... issues.
Norway is... western Sweden ๐ ๐ธ๐ช
OMG only one more week until Hannukah! Can't wait!
White Florida
Norway has even made comedy sketches making fun of Sweden. <:whitepill:439924104406106113>
I think the Netherlands makes fun of them constantly too.
Yeah Norway> Sweden for sure
@Nerv - VA The Netherlands aren't in a position to make fun of literally anyone.
Well, it's pretty easy to make fun of Sweden though...
@Sam Anderson those goy get a day for presents? Weโll show them. PRESENTS FOR A WEEK
You'd have to get to France levels of cuckery to not make fun of others.
@Bjorn - MD right? Holland? Dutch? Flanders? Figure out your identity bra
@VinceChaos Hot take, just add water.
France's current leader:
Enough said.
Heโs probably going to have to resign
@โกClarkโก Holland and Flanders are regional dutch identities, predominantly Protestant and Catholic respectively ๐ค โ
@Bjorn - MD all Iโm saying is they got to simplify a bit because itโs confusing mkay
Holland has their own enrichment troubles.
@โกClarkโก Lol. Fair 'nuff.
Canโt be making fun of people when youโre confusing n sheit
@Asatru Artist - MD He;s just a soundcloud rap fan.
Lol France
>Paris now a toilet
Zzzz
>Mass rapes
Zzzz
>unprecedented shootings and truck attacks
Zzzz
>Entire neighborhoods running as hostile foreign nations
Zzzzz
>Diesel Prices
REAL SHIT
Yeah, they ignore "diversity barriers" around the Eifel Tower and the migrant invasion, but Gods forbid the govt raises gas prices! ๐ฑ ๐ก
I'll take it
Better than nothing I guess
ypipo amirite?
The crowds at those protests are rather old. Boomers smh
damn who's the newfag in receiving rn, looks whack
<:boomer:394308007217070080>'s rise up!
Pretty epic that the guy who defeated Le Pen in the name of globalism is the most hated dude in France since Hitler ๐๐
Heh, 2018. Now THAT was a petrol riot
*sips*
haven't had a sip in awhile this is so sad, alexa play sipsacito
Why do I feel like this is a John O bit that he does..
@Papa Pizzagate Don't forget to read the guidebook before you start posting ๐
Younger Hotter La Pen for Empress. Reconquista waifu Europa needs.
Thanks, @Bjorn - MD I can already tell we're going to be great friends.
Has anyone read Tucker's new book? Was wondering if it was worth the buy?
Oh snap! Podcast dropped!
@hbutzer0511 I hear it's pretty good. Very useful for giving to people.
Tucker has lots of economic populist / nationalist points as well as questioning globalist narrative
@Freiheit - CA epic
@hbutzer0511 I have. It was decent. Nothing extraordinarily original, but it did reveal a lot of information I hadn't known before.
Tucker is very valuable. He gets people 90% there and for most that is enough. Protect Tucker
Tvcker
Tvckropa
Keep on Tvcking
@Mojave Paisan - NV @Wood-Ape - OK/MN Yeah.. just from the ๐ฎ๐ฑ interview it seemed like it contained some good economic data.
@hbutzer0511 Shapiro interview?
Iโm ambivalent about Tvcker lately. Banning self driving cars is such a bandaid to a larger problem itโs so not gonna work
Yeah. I think it is good to pass to dads and brothers and non woke GFs
live action shot of big T tucking in a yung woke XIR* excuse me
TUCKED
@Reinhard Wolff *Soy face intensifies*
@VinceChaos Well are huuuwhite breathen still have to make a buck.
@VinceChaos I.E. membership alone is 10 a month.
it was a specific example in context of a question posed by Shapiro that was meant to apply as an analogy to societal adoption of technology that destroys jobs of average Joe America
We need to be involved in eugenics to increase IQ to avoid paying low IQ people to stay home so we donโt have to ban AI
Itโs still 20 years away tho. AI has to deal with extreme weather
@VinceChaos its relative and people will always be more expensive
yo
ww3 imminent?
jk nothing wil happen
Nothing ever happens
>tfw you hope the muh Russia stuff is real just to avoid war
jk
But serious sometimes I think Liberals and NeoCons would be happy nuking the world because..
Putin isn't fond of gays??
Are you telling me.....
I hurt my head trying to understand them.
Putin doesnโt like gays?!!
Well, I guess that depends on
whether or not
traps are gay?
I read on faceberg that Putin is gay.
@Josh M. -OH Just because he is a manlet? Rude!
Manlets are high test, like badgers
Russian bots probably posted it so it has to be true. Putin approves every post.
Identity Globohomo
Glvbvhvmv
Hahaha you beat me to it
oof
Straitโs closed due to foreign AIDS
...update: no one gets it @YourFundamentalTheorum
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN ehhhhhhh Tucker is good but I don't think anyone in the mainstream gets people 90% there
I don't think we should be ideologues who refuse to work with more moderate people, but "civnats are 80% there" kind of rhetoric is kind of defeatist and not really healthy.
To be fair, a good number of the guys I've talked to irl in IE were CivNats...and even more were lolbertarians (including myself on both accounts).
plus, Tucker is a civnat who is aware of demographic change and talks about it on hjs show
That's true
Recognizing the vital role of people like Tucker Carlson and those who share is views is hardly defeatist. Heโs arguably the most important right winger in the public eye other than trump.
@Asatru Artist - MD Ex-civ Nat.๐๏ธ
Yeah werenโt we all civnats at one point? No?
โthese neighborhoods look nothing like they used toโ etc
@NateDahl76 I went straight from communism to this
Tucker said very clearly in his interview on Adam Corollas show that he noticed how much California has changed (demographically) and that crime has risen dramatically (but doesn't put the two together explicitly).
So no
@NateDahl76 Public position-wise, yeah ๐
Yeah lol weโre *almost all civnats IRL
@sigruna14 gahd damn
Tucker is more woke than he puts onto, but he also keeps a public face that is super CivNat. (i think)
@sigruna14 So, like, orthodox Marxism-Leninism to NazBol, lol?
@Kingfish "Recognizing the vital role of people like Tucker Carlson and those who share is views is hardly defeatist."
No, that's not what I'm saying. I realize that some people need to present as more moderate. For the record, I do think Tucker is all the way there in private and what he is doing is strategic.
@Bjorn - MD Trotskyism. I guess. It was only for like 3 months when I was 15. Never knew it in great detail.
oh so like Peter Hitchens
All my friends know I'm in IE, I don't hide my Identitarian leanings.
@NateDahl76 No, many of us were never civnats.
And many of us aren't civnats in real life. Me included.
@sigruna14 ooof Trotsky is the worst
@sigruna14 @NateDahl76 yeah lol I went from AnPrim to Socialist to Ethnic Nationalism. I have always been weird ๐
@Jacob On RevLeft the accepted orthodoxy was that Stalin was a dictator and Trotsky wanted the people to have more of a voice, he was more democratic, so I picked him.
@sigruna14 I wouldn't call a 15 yo's view of the world anything but fantasy tbh. So a commie 15yo makes sense.
Some good buds of mine know my views. Just don't be a LARPer and do not talk about it all the time. They will not care unless they are really Leftists.
@Jacob Many of us, including leadership were indeed civnats. Not sure where you are getting that from...
@Asatru Artist - MD Accurate. Participating in a message board for 3 months at 15 doesn't really count for much, but still, it's fun to say.
And rudimentarily true.
@sigruna14 Well, Trotsky is the one most in line with modern leftists, so, that makes sense
>being a communist
>admitting it
<:nervous:359009898115104770>
Once I started a Lefora forum for RevLeft people who were shunned by the RevLeft establishment. It was me and 2 other people. Good times. Lol.
I remember the first time I heard Steve Bannon say โCivic Nationalismโ
I immediately said โyeah Iโm thatโ
@Asatru Artist - MD everyone goes through a phase lol
my โphaseโ (briefly) was DR3
14-18 I jumped around political ideals like a mad man
DR3 > Commie
I remember thinking โThe KKK likes Hillary because welfare keeps the black man downโ
eh, I get why people become leftists. Almost none of the horrible stuff done by communist regimes is taught in schools
Stayed pretty left wing with economics for the most part though, mostly flipping from full on state issued gfs to anarchism and like 3-4 weeks I was ancap
@Papa Pizzagate I'm not saying that the statement "many of us were civnats" is false, I'm saying that the statement "all of us were civnats" was false, by saying that many of us weren't.
Maybe there was a better way to phrase that.
Was always a civnat through all of it
@fgtveassassin state issued gfs is a radical centrist position
I've basically just gone further right the older I get. "Republican" up until Obama, then Independent (I finally figured out the GOP is useless), to Lolbertarian/CivNat, to Identitarian.
What is our largest recruiting pool, in your opinion @Jacob
Libertarians ^
Civs
@Asatru Artist - MD To be honest, it depends what kind of civnat and what kind of commie.
For example, the modern communist party in Russia is pretty solid on immigration.
>insert pipeline meme about libertarians to AR from 2015
hoteps
based
@Jacob I'm not a one issue voter and no amount of "solid on immigration" is getting me to go along with Commies.
@Asatru Artist - MD Just saying by pure population.
Yeah, CivNats are fertile ground for sure.
lol the Russian communist party is about as communist as the Russian liberal democratic party is liberal democratic
Internet racists as unfortunate as it is to admit is a very small fraction of the sphere, and if we want to really gain any form of influence or infrastructure down the road weโre gonna need to maintain a relatively similar direction to the rest of the growing anti globalist coalition
Libertarian, I thought it was the best way to help whites without saying so while simultanously being nice to the talented tenth, that delusion has been shattered by reality
@Alex Kolchak - NY they are hilarious, cause those communists actually long for better days
I sincerely believe that if the DSA were destroyed via racial tensions and accusations of racism, we would get a ton of apps in the following months ๐๐ especially if we up our name recognition among them
I was curious to see if the Tea Party could have done something productive too and it didn't
@NateDahl76 lotta populist-socialists in that crowd huh <:4dchess:439923932062154782>
@sigruna14 Yeah, I kinda followed a similar trajectory [Stalinism->Trotskyism->Leninism->Focoism/Guevarism->Socialism of the 21st Century->Luxemburgism->Democratic Socialism->Social Democracy->Libertarian Socialism->Classical Liberalism->Objectivism->AnCap->Agorism->Market Anarchism->Rothbard-Rockwell-Hoppe-Doolittle Helicopter (Anarchist) Paleolibertarianism->Paleoconservatism->National Conservatism->Traditionalist Conservatism->Monarchism->Propertarianism->Identitarianism]
I did go through a brief period when I was like 14, probably stemming mostly from edginess, where I wanted the political system my Uncle had in mind
jesus christ that is quite detailed @Bjorn - MD
I think the Tea Party got sucked into the machine (or the swamp), and spit out as establishment GOP after a couple years @TylerHess
@Sam Southern - TN <:avtism:359037377919844352> ๐
@NateDahl76 most white DemSocs are just edgy kids who want free healthcare
@Asatru Artist - MD They got bullied by the IRS and then were quickly cucked and compromised into basic pumpkin spice latte neocons
Iโm guessing
@Papa Pizzagate Civnats are likely are largest recruiting pool. I'm not trying to purity spiral here and say we shouldn't infiltrate Republicans, I'm just saying we shouldn't delude ourselves that civnats are 80% there.
I might actually be more optimistic than you in this situation, because I do think that we can over time bring people all the way.
@Bjorn - MD is that actually real?
I donโt think everyone needs to be an esoteric evropan to stop globalism and heavily improve our situation
We need the kids that just like Trump and hate leftists.
@Jacob Lol. Yeah. Probably left some stuff out and screwed up the order, but more or less.
(Omitting some ideologies, obviously.)
@Bjorn - MD
>Unironic monarchism to propertarianism
@fgtveassassin distributism is the redpill man
@fgtveassassin Actually not much of a stretch. Most, if not all propertarians are monarchists.
distributist monarchy
@Kingfish I think we assume that our views are more esoteric than they actually are. We'd be liberals compared to the typical American in the 50s.
But, I mean, I don't disagree with you, things can improve over where they are now even if people aren't all the way there.
@Bjorn - MD Gonna be real with you chief, not really sure what Propertarianism was until like 3 minutes ago but it seemed like ancap in a way
I don't think pro white is esoteric at all
I think the way it is portrayed is
lol you might be a liberal compared to a 50's American, not all of us are tho
I think you can tap into pro white sentiment implicitly
once you start preaching Identitiarian theory it gets lost in the weeds. but invoke the secondary level or the effects of a pro white system and its basically trump's campaign platform
Literally "What about White People?"
@fgtveassassin Pretty much. I'm not an authority, but it's a modeled in such a way as to minimize the rise of situations in which the state would be demanded to arbitrate. In other words, to allow for as libertarian a society as possible, while preventing free-riding and other anti-social behavior (i.e. degeneracy), and allowing for a commons.
@Sam Southern - TN eh, I'd say I'm one of the more... "further right" members here, but, I mean, the barrier of entry to get into IE basically requires you to be a liberal from the 50s at the least.
The way Tucker combats the Left's use of Racial politics is in an implicitly pro white way, unlike how "civnats" who typically reject the concept of Identity politics at all go about it
The 50s were already fallen
which is why I'd argue Tucker is not a "civnat" in the derogatory way it is said around here
he is very clearly a far right populist
or as I would just say "nationalist"
I guess it would depend on what you mean by "preaching identitarian theory"
which is all that really has to be said
tucker far right? naw. populist? absolutely.
@fgtveassassin The more I learn about metapolitics and activism, though, at least under the present dispensation, I'd actually say that I'm an unironic illiberal democrat now (with a lower-cased "d") ๐
Well he's not a left wing populist, and third position is pretty much a waste of time to get into
so by default, Far right.
lol he's just right wing, he's not far right by any stretch
I'm not saying we should push racialism on people right away
I'm just saying that we eventually need to move people beyond the ideas that Tucker is allowed to say on Fox
Recruit TERFs
๐ฒ ๐ฒ
Obviously you need to get a feel for people and don't throw too much at them at one time
@fgtveassassin Ultimately, the flaws of just about any system can be overcome. The problem is that we've gone centuries (if not millennia) without fully understanding the rules of the game.
I would say there's still a lot more to figure out but I feel most systems could work to extent in a homogenous society
I think first you need to entrench them into their place in the anti globalist (whatever you want to call this) movement, and then push them into a more partisan and passionate reflection of that conviction rather than a more strict ideological position like Identitarian. Just managing to get a lot of the population in support of a wall, getting rid of Daca, visas, and stuff like that will be a massive success on its own
I mean I guess
There still needs to be people pushing the edge of the Overton Window
I don't think anyone here is going to tell you that we *shouldn't* have guys like Tucker
@fgtveassassin @Bjorn - MD I wouldn't say that why system could work in a homogenous society, though I do believe that we should put our differences aside to some extent while we get larger issues sorted out
@Jacob Agreed.
Why? Not down with White Juche, lol?
I used to say that in a homogenous society everything would sort itself out, but, the thing is, we *did* have a homogenous society, and the system led to where we are today.
@Jacob of course, I really couldn't care less if someone is nazbol, ancap or wants white juche, the survival of our people is first, foremost and non-negotiable
@Jacob We haven't had a homogenous society in at least 1,948 years... ๐
Ya I agree with that. I don't hold any ill will towards pro-white activists who support a different system than I do. However, I will respectfully promote what I see as a preferable system as long as it doesn't get divisive.
Here's looking forward to the day when it's just us, so we can all be comfortably at each other's throat again ๐
Political discourse tends to be much more respectful in homogenous societies
That it does.
I mean like in Poland no one really gives a shit who you voted for
People have their opinions but it generally doesn't get heated like it does here
Yeah, but I think that a lot of our historical political divisions were manifestations of conflicting ethics, rooted in our religious diversity.
Former Deputy Prime Minister Boris Nemtsov said The Other Russia "united national-bolsheviks, nationalists, liberals, social-democrats, and socialists" and adding that "there are no parties similar to that one anywhere in the world"
...whereas, in Poland, you're Catholic, or if you're Polish Orthodox, you're looked at with suspicion, lol.
I don't think that's really a thing though
It is, but it's small.
Are you sure those aren't just Ukrainians?
Could well be. Not sure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Orthodox_Church
weird
I've thought of becoming Orthodox since I like the ethnically based churches, but, I don't know where I would go
no lol
@Nemets In Poland, yeah, but here, they just get lumped in with whatever just walked outta the airport.
it's not a separate church
Chinese gov is offering yuge subsidies to build river barges, and will subsidize your boat by 50% more just to install a sewage cabin. ๐
Subconts are not the only street/river shitters
Designated pooping river
Pooperpower by 2020
*twenty twenty fie*!!
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