we need more of our people becoming social workers and that sort of thing

because a lot of the ones now are far-left sociology/anthro major types

which can’t be a good thing

Check out @wayotworld’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/wayotworld/status/1066233467250315264?s=09

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uHDfC-z9YaE

I wonder if Rand Paul is doing this for libertarian/isolationist reasons, or because he’s at least slightly our guy?

@Alex Kolchak - NY I used to be in that world, and social work masters programs are incredibly marxist. It would take an absolute ninja to get through it.

damn. yeah we gotta make helping the community a right-wing cause again

The entire social work field from top to bottom, educstion to practice to government oversight is leftist for sure.

https://fief.bandcamp.com

The most wholesome music you're likely to hear in this era.

10/10 will serve my liege lord to this

Have said this many times before and will say it again. Blacks are the ultimate NPCs. Treat them like Whites and you get something like what we have at my school.

Tons of Black women coming in to take classes that they drop out of to become debt slaves.

And eventually single mothers and mediocre cashiers.

Can be easily controlled and channeled until restaurants get their touchscreens calibrated.

OFC a large proportion of the men will end up in prison.

And steps should be taken to make sure that they stay in as long as possible.

@Sam Anderson Any suggestions that mind be more...humane?

than condemning an entire race to servitude and poverty? I think that we can do better than that.

Blacks as a race of eternal children is an apt analogy except that it's unfair to children

Not really. I mean even the way they are treated by Leftists is similar to what I have said.

Granted their end goal is votes.

Yeah but I'd rather not stoop to that level if it can be avoided.

We can do better than that? They're our responsibility? No. We just need to be away from them and worry about our own flourishing

Blacks are used as a tool to provoke White Flight. Many a man and administration has tried.

@Ald I agree.

To make a better use of them.

Honestly some good reading on an optimal trajectory for the African Diaspora is the early history of sierra leone

alright

I'll look into that.

Basically British values expressed in a black ethnostate

Worked REALLY well for almost 100 years

Look, we need to be practical and not ideological. Some broad plan for Blacks that makes us feel good inside is not nearly as plausible as just reducing the amount of interaction we have with them.

The Foura Bay University was treated as an equal to Cambridge and Oxford

was it, though?

Indeed it was in the early period, early 1800s sorry lads memory lapsed there

@Sam Anderson I agree.

@Sam Anderson Bringing the honest hot takes.

@Rabbidsith Im not sure how many Blacks you encounter in Utah. But where I live, idealistic takes on Blacks are not a good way to go about things.

^^^^

AKA just sell me my food damit

peaceful separation based on freedom of association is the most moral and realistic position

in my opinion

Shakisha. Gibs Chic fil A

Blacks are just an awful problem in everyday life. Unpleasant. Sorry if that sounds profane or whatever but seriously fairness to blacks is at the bottom of my priorities

which is why separation is the way to go

Clearly you do not view them as NCPs enough if that upsets you.

I know we come on this forum to vent and speak freely but we have been reminded before that we would not want to say stuff on here that could get us in trouble if it leaked...

@Sam Anderson Enough that I don't like being around them.

Some of those "NPCs" have been effecting our youth for decades with their crap culture, music, mannerisms, etc

Yup.

Fairness to blacks is acknowledging their shortcomings

k

Well we all know who is pushing that culture into the mainstream...

that being said, white identitarianism with room for blacks in the country (separately) could be a good strategy because it appeals to average white people’s morality

“they have a place in this country since they were brought here by force etc etc”

so you make the case that they’re the only minority group that should even be here

No

(correction: and native Americans, but that’s a separate discussion)

Native Americans are actually a great model, basically seperate homelands

they *all* have to go back, but that ain't gonna happen.

the hispanics we can deport, others, we're stuck with

i say we give BLM and the Farakahn types the south and wall that off, then watch the fireworks

right. so the next best thing is defining American identity as white, but with certain provisions for the other two groups that have been here since the nation’s founding

Theoretical discussions fellas

>thinks they are theoretical...

it’s kind of how Russia works with its minority groups

they have semi-autonomous republics within Russia

and agreements with the government

At the end of the day, our end goal is building White Identity. Whatever tools we need to do that in a productive manner are acceptable.

>in the ethnostate we’ll
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who mentioned that?

how do I delete someone else's post

tell a mod if you think its that bad

@NateDahl76 not necessarily. It’s calling for a nuanced approach to different minority groups

@Sam Southern - TN If it’s mine I can go ahead and delete it LOL

bois that's a meme, not serious

so for some, you say “we want to live separately, but they technically belong here” and for some you say “they have no claim to this country whatsoever”

no other group has claim to the American Nation, no.

well, native Americans do. where are you gonna deport them? lol

"whites have no claim to this country" is the other side of that argument @Alex Kolchak - NY

Buy up their land as we've done before.

Idc where they go after that.

since we "took" it and were invaders ourselves

correct. we built the country as it is now

that’s the counter-argument

I’m talking mid-to-long-term strategy here, not ideology

Amerindians have no claim to the American Nation as they were conquered and sequestered into their own Amerindian reservations. Not a concern as long as we buy them out as we've done countless times.

@Alex Kolchak - NY How long does ones ancestors have to be here to be"native"? or are we just talking brown people with feathers, just...because...

Easy strategy that is proven to work.

I think some kind of nativist coalition wouldn’t be a bad way to go

Not right now, of course

but eventually I don’t think the idea is crazy

inhabitants of soil =|= inhabitants of the nation

There was no nation without whites.

First American was Snorri Thorfinnson change my mind

it was a bunch of tribes wandering around and killing each other

got the registry thing figured out

yeah, I get that. I’m saying the approach to native americans and blacks has to be more nuanced than the approach to post-1965 immigrants

that’s a fair point, no?

they aren't native americans. they are amerindians. don't cuck to the framing of the anti-whites

*Siberian immigrants

and no, I disagree that we should have a different approach to Blacks and Amerindians.

Before Whites this continent was AnPrim camping gang

right, so where are you gonna deport Amerindians to? their original homeland? oh wait...

ill have to go Alexs way here. Dealing with the blacks has to be much different than the Indians.

why do you keep ignoring where I say that we'll buy their reservations as we've done countless times before?

literal proven strategy

right, and if they don’t want to sell?

i don't think we could convince them to leave willingly through gibs back to their homeland though. They won't give up white resources for a short term gib.

@Alex Kolchak - NY Wouldn't asia work, as that is their origin over the ice bridge?

cross that bridge when we get there. they're proven to sellout though, so i'm not super pressed about it

besides, Americans have never shown much regard for the "rights" of the Amerindians in any scenario

Native Americans are not really a problem.

@Mr. Huxley - OH you’re technically correct but the average person can’t wrap their head around that

Leave them with casinos and don't allow them to vote since they already have sovereign land and that problem fixes itself.

@Alex Kolchak - NY That's a pretty good analogy, to have autonomous regions like the Soviet Union or Russia

ok, let me phrase it this way: the average white American, even the average pro-white American, will be more sympathetic to blacks than to post-1965 immigrants

Bantu Autonomous Oblast

Kind of like how there are bones of European origin in America from before the indians could have been on the continent

@Alex Kolchak - NY lol. maybe up North in yankeedom

that is the problem you have to address

yeah that’s a pretty big part of the country, my guy

"the average white American, even the average pro-white American, will be more sympathetic to blacks than to post-1965 immigrants"

I would agree with this

To be honest immigrants piss me off more than blacks lol

At least the blacks only rape and steal from mostly their own. Mostly.

@Asatru Artist - MD Bro it;s incredibly triggering to have someone say, "Give the blegs the South".

I'm from the South, all my ancestors are from here. All of my current family is here.

Not. One. Inch.

We should literally do what the Soviet Union did. Not even joking. Carve out autonomous republics and give them internal passports.

lol. yall wanted to keep them...

No I don't want to keep them

I want them to stay in their autonomous oblasts

whatever you think of any other group, it’s an obstacle you’ll have to overcome. Even Americans that can be convinced to oppose immigration and demographic replacement will likely think of blacks separately from that

Let's meet in the middle. Give them Maryland.

@Jacob I'm talking to Tyler since he's from the south.

ah okay

The south wanted to keep blacks, they got their wish.

@Zilna Jestov ehhhhhh

We don't have to give them the whole South or even a state

just carve something out

kinda like a native reservation lmao

@Zilna Jestov They have 50% of Maryland already. <:sad:366743316475281408>

or so it feels...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatar_Autonomous_Soviet_Socialist_Republic

literally this but for black people

Build barrier state between The Reformed United States and Mexico as the new Black Diaspora American Homeland

"The South wanted to keep the Blacks"

no, we wanted to keep our farming equipment.

hmm MD is "only" 28% black. feels way worse...

this isn’t about shilling for blacks. they obviously contribute to societal dysfunction quite a bit and we all want to peacefully separate from them.

it’s about recognizing that lots of whites are less hostile to their presence in the country than they are to post-1965 immigrants

And Lincoln wanted to deport all blacks back to Africa but got assassinated before he could.

@Sam Southern - TN Should have picked your own cotton.

We could call it the African-American Autonomous Identitarian Republic

jesus no

I'm not even trying to be a dick...

literally, the old southern elites screwed the modern south

@Jacob let's give the orientals Washington, call it the Chinese-American Autonomous Identitarian Republic

Just passing through, last post for the night.

This is an important question to answer. What are the criteria for an acceptable apportionment of land for the blacks. Might there be one piece, or several small pieces?

not an inch

Well, it would make the rest of Washington more homogenous, so I wouldn't mind giving them a county or two @Sam Southern - TN

>giving up part of the nation for ???

We could keep "musical chairing" them to Canada.

What's up with all of this defeatism cloaked in intellectualism...

far better than ceding part of our own nation to them @Zilna Jestov

I mean, we’re gonna lose a few parts unless you’re willing to take steps that will not be discussed in general

Well, think of it this way. Right now, no part of the country is really ours. Any part can become diverse at any moment. But if we gave minorities zones and remigrated them into them, the rest of the country would be ours.

@Alex Kolchak - NY sounds better than giving up the nation

possibly

Just give them parts that are already flooded by them

Mexicans can be remigrated to Mexico since it's a short trip and they'd assimilate easily

I won’t counter-signal that approach, I’m just saying there are lots of issues associated with it

hell why even fight for a piece of the land if "no part of the country is really ours" @Jacob

let's just give it all up

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he’s saying it’s a temporary situation smh

as in yes our sovereignty is disputed

You know how we always say that if we could deport all Mexicans we could mow our own damn lawns and pick up our tomatoes? I wish the South would have had the same attitude: we can pick up our own cotton!

so how do we take back as much of it as possible

@Sam Southern - TN Well, we fight so it becomes ours again

I was unaware that fighting meant ceding land left and right lol

"Temporary". Please.

well I don’t want our dispossession to be permanent @Asatru Artist - MD

just that at the moment there is that danger

I don't even know if ceding is the right way to think of it. As it is right now, 40% of the country is not us, and they have equivalent political power. If we created zones for minorities, the area outside the zones would be 100% ours.

If you give another group land for any amount of time, it won't be temporary.

While I understand our bros from other regions are perhaps vexed by this, The South is the only part of America with a strong sense of Identity.

We are the LEAST likely of any group to cede ground

This is the same group of people that bitch and moan about Conservatives cucking and giving up ground they will never regain. Then turn around and suggest giving these invaders parts of our nation. Wewlad, the mental gymnastics!

@Asatru Artist - MD I'm unsure if you are being intentionally provocative,

@Sam Southern - TN What he's saying is that the land is already lost so it's best to segregate before we are diversitied out of existance.

@Asatru Artist - MD we have lost part of the country already. might as well give it all up by that logic

@Sam Southern - TN Just speaking about the long time black population that our ancestors brought here. Not invaders.

@Sam Southern - TN uncalled for. We’re just pointing out the complications involved

I am doing this

ok

@Alex Kolchak - NY completely accurate and based on yalls own logic.

👮 🚔

I disagree that either is unproductive or theoretical, but, for the sake of order, if a mod said something, we should listen

gonna defer to @NateDahl76 here

Maybe we should create another place to discuss these kinds of things

Slav server?

This is definitely at least theoretical and it’s mostly just blackpilling. “Here’s how the US will be carved up” is as theoretical as it gets

All is good

I get it but yeah. I don’t even think about a lot of this stuff

The first step is waking our people up.

Balkanization is inevitable, unless the unspeakable happens.

I think discussing some of these hypothetical issues might create friction and contention among ourselves because we vary in our ideas and approach to certain issues. I don’t think it’s healthy nor productive.

Unspeakable being Deportations.

All of them

@Asatru Artist - MD less. Mexicans and Asians

@Zilna Jestov Well, as the admin of the Slav server, I won't prevent it from happening on that server, but it's not entirely a Slav related topic. I was saying maybe we should have some sort of political policy discussion server.

Guys.

@Mr. Huxley - OH unspeakable deportations <:4dchess:439923932062154782>

As a closing note.

When y'all dogpile on the South, what myself and some of my guys perceive is you pissing on my ancestors graves.

Then you retreat with your hands up in the air incredulously feigning innocence.

What the hell happened here

Next person to continue this gets repri’d

@Sam Southern - TN I wanted to get a laugh out of someone, but this whole chat seems tense.

6th overtime in the game I'm watching

What about that weather?

We need to get our people to see that they are a people and that they are worth saving.
Anything else until we accomplish that is speculation.

bread is bad for you

circuses can be fun, at least in Russia where safety is kind of a secondary concern

Also that sportsball weather is crazy, ain't it?

American circuses suck, I went to a Ringling Bros show when I was young

I liked Ringling Bros <:nervous:359009898115104770>

@NateDahl76 The reason I said it's not theoretical is because the discussion has to do with resolving current issues that are pertinent to us right now. It's not "when we get the ethnostate" kind of talk. I personally think it's necessary that we resolve these questions as an organization because it's important that we can provide solutions to current issues. I'm not saying this to restart the debate, though, I'll respect the judgement even if I disagree with it.

RIP

goddamnit Jacob

I think I went to the ringling bros when I was younger too

Back to Poland with you!

I think everyone has at some point gone to a Ringling Bros show in their youth, that is peak 2005 aesthetic

everyone duck, the banhammer’s about to come crashing down

I don't like the ones that keep animals

Let's flee to the Slav server

If anyone wants to apply for asylum in the Slav server DM me

tfw there's a slav server but no med gang server <:nervous:359009898115104770>

no there is lol

it's older than ours

I think that topic will get you v& too

oh then I'm just still too new to realize there was one haha

The Slav server is probably the newest one

I remember there being a Celt server waaaaaaay back in the day

@Nemets I'll respond to you on the Slav server

silly @Jacob, we all know Poland only takes Ukrainian refugees 😏

Patrick kind of discouraged it so I didn’t make a nord server

not that that’s a bad thing

@NateDahl76 Are you referring to his answer on the fireside?

If I remember correctly, he said he doesn't care if we make ethnic servers.

he wasn’t thrilled about them but didn’t forbid them

He said it's silly to identify as Swedish when you're like 10th generation, but he didn't say don't make ethnic servers

I probably only would have done it if he were positive or didn’t care

Yeah I know

honestly, I get it. I’m American, I’ve got nowhere to run