Do you think it's a good idea to antagonize the GOP by doing that? I'm not sure.

The most effective conservation organizations dollar for dollar and square foot of habitat are the hunting orgs- Ducks Unlimited, Pheasants Forever, National wild turkey federation

Approach from the hunting/outdoorsman type of environmentalism not the leftist anti-human type

I generally prefer the approach taken in The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels by Epstein

Yes @metasophocles. Modern environmentalists spend no time in nature.

Right, @Nemets. I mean, to embrace environmental conservatism would put us at odds with the GOPe.

@Nemets we don't necessarily have to talk about global warming. We can get by just talking about pollution and plastics etc. *que image of Indian trash river*

So many metapolitical angles of approach such as the pro-nuclear power and the energy independence approach

@Asatru Artist - MD There are some valid arguments in favor of less restrictive abortion policies, but that advertisement was very creepy

Seems like it would make more people anti than pro abortion

My fiancé’s mother is a teacher in elementary school. She has a lot of Honduran students. The school just issued a statement explaining their low test scores as “caused by fear from the Trump administration.”

There seems to be so many angles that we could take this.

We could construct entire opposing political movements to fulfill our goals.

@Alexander Pechorin that would be funny if it wasn't so sad and ridiculous

tug at a single thread

and the whole weave unravels

Almost as though we act as minor Norns.

although such a comparison is hardly justified...

The problem isn’t carbon the problem is not enough nitrogen. 🤯

@Asatru Artist - MD I can imagine.

@Asatru Artist - MD I pity those people more than anything else.

I wouldn't be surprised if political anxiety can lower grades

*thanks Obama*

Pity<disgust

I should do a massive IE postering right before finals and lower all the leftists' grades

How sad it must be to constantly work towards a revolution that will never come only to serve the very people that they hate.

unknowingly

caught up in a giant web of lies upon webs of lies...

@Jacob they’ll offer retakes for all the students, guaranteed.

But I’ll pay for flyers.

Do we have a music channel?

@metasophocles That's why I pity them. It's the punishment of Sisyphus.

I agree with Gimlet that it would be a wise and likely effective strategy (and not a phony one), to embrace some of the left’s battles. We are a politically independent organization after all. While we definitely endorse a more conservative platform, we’re not affiliated with neither party. Having a pro-environment demonstration, or an event to raise awareness about human trafficking, and even push the envelope and endorse an anti-bully rally, might draw a lot of attention and it would be hard for the mainstream media to negatively cover the event.

Indeed.

SAT and ACT removed the writing exams recently. Apparently have universal language and communication standards biases the results...

@Grayson At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is that we mainstream our views.

Once that happens, we win.

It doesn't matter what they say then.

@Rabbidsith Yeah that’s exactly true

Dude that entire article is great! I'm shocked @Asatru Artist - MD

They don’t really even like the environment. They hate whites.

They quote a student defending our posters

Or they would care about all the pollution browns do.

@Grayson Once we can openly criticize our enemies without fear of significant retribution, then there's no stopping us.

form political movements

NGO's

the whole 9 yards

I think they actually do care about the environment but some of the policies they make are really retarded for the most part.

Then we ingrain "multiculturalism" as a racist word.

into the minds of the general populace

something that means "to destroy the culture of another"

aka treason/invasion

Multkulti should be associated with its reality, genocide

@metasophocles Indeed.

@Asatru Artist - MD all while posting 6 amazing photos of our poster

Make "multiculturalism" as poisonous in the minds of normal individuals as the word "holocaust".

Well we should say that we agree with the environmentalist movement and that’s why we want to stop the mass influx of immigrants. We should say that we care about children and women and that’s why we want to raise awareness about the children and women who get raped during the trip into the US, we should raise awareness about the abuse of women and homosexuals in Muslim nations and ask the democrats: how can you be ok with it ??”

Indeed.

@Grayson If we do that, then it's going to effectively be impossible to defeat our organization if we take over the eco movement.

We would make their heads spin

@Grayson Imagine: IE: vangaurd of the American environmentalist and anti-war movements.

@Asatru Artist - MD Indeed.

Defeat that optics...

Yup.

Elites want war: IE says no.

perfect optics

10/10 dragon eyes

@Asatru Artist - MD Here's the best part: IE just wants us to have clean environment to raise our families. Put that on a poster.

And we can’t come across as phony if we do this. We have to truly feel it. I don’t want little Mexican kids to be raped during the crossing!

0/10 bad media

@Grayson Indeed.

Let's say "Make Latin America safe again!".

there's a good one

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/BF01271030.pdf

I don’t want homosexuals to be thrown off roof tops in the middle east

I don't care what people do in the middle east.

@Asatru Artist - MD I know !!!! We need to be the ones to raise awareness about that

https://www.jstor.org/stable/27503161?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents

"Immigration Increases Suffering"

https://www.popline.org/node/279576

Yeah but since they’re moving over here in the thousands

@Grayson And with a bit of pro-Earth environmental propaganda (like Earth-chan), we can get them to leave in the thousands.

https://cis.org/Sussis/Brief-Chronology-Sierra-Clubs-Retreat-ImmigrationPopulation-Connection-Updated

lol CIS sot org

A Cis Male?!?!?!

Gents this would take so little effort to turn into primo IE propaganda

literally shaking rn

I intend to plan a week long expedition (either canoeing or backpacking) for members next summer

"Identity Expedition"

@Nemets Exactly! Which is why it would be a good thing because it would mean that we could discredit them further.

"What about IE's anti-human trafficking initiatives?" "What about our environmentalism?"

would a "hate group" do that?

of course not!

Quick and easy redpills.

*constantly stocking food banks

lol

do it

*cleans up litter

And opposing sexual assault is Identitarian. In the US and Europe, as they say "who is doing the raping?"

*protects women

@Nemets Yeah but that was then and consider how little was possible back then.

@Nemets I say we add effort to at least "look" pro environment.

because if we do that, then it's going to be an easier sell

Well hopefully the leadership is following this conversation and maybe they’ll agree that it might be a good effective strategy

BNP was ahead of their time

Because in the end guys when we say make America great again, that’s what we mean. We include all of these things in making America great again; safety in society, low crime, preserving our wilderness and our environment, a safe place to raise children, etc.

reminder: anyone can propose activism, we have a submission guideline in the cyberstrike server

when the spring comes a "blowdown patrol" is a great outing idea. Hike the trails with an axe and saw (and proper protective gear) and remove any fallen wood that blocks the trail. Unlike tread or Rockwork which requires training, it is a simple thing to remove logs.

@Asatru Artist - MD That's really nice

@Asatru Artist - MD pine tree gang approved

@Nemets like to see Assad or what

Pretty based

@Asatru Artist - MD beautiful !!! You are hired !!

If we had posters like that, do you guys have any idea how many tree huggers and environmentalists we could court?

One poster could say: Make America Great Again: save the environment. End immigration

@Grayson thats the goal, I think IE can be in its own way a huge reconciling force for all types of Evro Americans

I think that the anti drug flyers we did were really good.

Make America Great Again: end sexual assault

Madison Grant was a father of the national parks and was our guy

Does anyone still have those?

IE has such nice slogans. It would be cool if we had shirts with the same slogans as the banners.

I have his book @Wood-Ape - OK/MN

We could use a quote from Muir

@Trashboat But have you been to his parks: Denali and Glacier?

Nope

I have been to Denali but not Glacier

Glacier is where the soul of America lives

@Grayson IE has been doing environmental trash pick up stuff for awhile

The DtR video brings me back to the whitepilled hype of that snowy day!

https://youtu.be/XBaZSiJfI1o

Indeed, they were.

The snow aesthetic was awesome

Jacob made a good point we should sell t-shirts with our slogans, it could be a really good source of revenue

I would totally wear an "America First End Immigration" shirt

Same

Could be neutral so that people outside the org would buy them via a payment processor

i can help with the ecommerce dev

quality on those sites is usually low

printful has american apparel and they're A+

I've done that

i agree on that side

you can make a little money

for IE you want it best possible quality

but you have to advertise pretty aggressively on facebook to break even

fb ads are dead now

Facebook is literally the best value for advertising online

I hate to admit it or use it, but it's a fact.

nobody uses it, it's a dud now

maybe if you advertise to the lowest common NPC type it could still work

@Asatru Artist - MD I tried doing that a long time ago with leftist shirts

i've been running lots of ads for years, it's sharply died off in ROI 2018

Problem is, Facebook requires you to confirm your identity to buy political advertisements

Okay, I disagree. What are you using now? @Gumbo - AZ

I advertised on Reddit and got nothing

bing display ads are the best ROI by far

We wouldn't necessarily have to put the logo on it, we could just use the slogans

really....

I find that very surprising.

I will do some research on it though, thanks.

i've been doing that professionally for 5+ years i've seen the trends lol

it's not well known but the ROI is like 5x google ads

Fair enough. I'll look into it.

older crowd, higher intent to buy, and tons of other msft properties aside from search

price is 10-20% of google

probably depends on the market, I imagine.

just convert to google on winners

Something doesn't have to be popular for it to have good returns

fb works well but pintrest is best social media, or insta

Bing still has plenty of traffic compared to other websites

even if no one uses it compared to Google

bing is now 30%+ search volume and rising

wtf

Goodnight IE

yahoo uses bing search

xbox, lot of other microsoft properties - they have a huge network now

it's been my secret for a while 😉

Bing had pretty bad search results when I tried it years ago

For while it would show porn for everything

they took google's best engineer for search Matt Cutts

so it's gotten a lot better, just few ppl use it like they do the google biz tools

Here's another design

I remember I searched "PHP ATM" on Bing when I was in high school, which was a programming related thing, and I got a bunch of porn

lol

Seemed to be a pretty common problem with Bing for a while

i can't believe i just ordered 4x ddr2 ram

shit was so cheap but im upgrading a crapbox for automated tasks

lol it's crap but it does alright for what i need. only cost $10 for 8gb ram

Regarding ecommerce store — no need to run FB ads at all to grow it. One of our companies owns a few Shopify stores. Our marketing team just does referral giveaways for the clothing, builds email list, and then prints money via email.

Granted, we used to spend 20k per month on FB and it was great. Bad ROI now.

Shirts have bad margins anyway so FB return typically isn’t there. And who wants to pay Zuckerberg anyways....?

If I designed since leftist shirts, could you figure out a way to market them?

It used to be wonderful. We typically did 10-1. Now it’s 3-1 and tails off quickly. Not worth it

@Jacob use Viral-Loops for referrals and set up Printful on Shopify to drop ship. You could probably do well. Why sell leftist shirts?

To take their money

Admittedly, I don't know much about this but could we form our own merch company and make a website under the name of that company? Then transfer the profits to IE? That way we could have access to a payment processor

Yes.

I'm a fan of the small and simple dragons eye

@Deleted User Very nice !!!!

Gnarly. Like the logo in the standard location. When it’s lowkey it looks like a normal fashion brand

yeah, I'm not too kean on the idea of a giant dragons eye on the back lol

is anyone thinking what I'm thinking 👀

That is a better idea.

Sweaters are harder to do

yeah, for sure

Not necessarily.

Especially like that, not standard for merch companies

Just go directly to the manufacturer. They make them in bulk and then sell to different brands at different prices to white label.

IE dragons eye winter sweaters would be pretty great

https://create.uglychristmassweater.com

Make a big logo on the back

not tryna be a target lol

Bro I would drop some serious cash on an IE sweater

Sold

Gibs me dat

Or I will call my POC twitter horde on you wyte boi

Nice

IE hoodies/sweaters/long sleeve shirts, gibs me dem all

Turtleneck Nationalism, when?

Vineyard Vines shirt but IE

Please

IE chubbies

full boat shoes nationalism

IE onesie

again w the fert cult posting

Lmao

I suggested IE onesies last year. Nathan was not at all receptive 🤣

👀

that could work on a sweater

Or down the sleeves of my VINEYARD EVROPA shirt

Real talk

@Deleted User Real nice

Maybe somewhere we can get stars and stripes or something

fellas...

Tell me you wouldn't buy the hell outta that

Would

Would

w o u l d

10/10 would

Wood

Wewd

Awoo'd

Wovld

Take my money

added a bit more

we could obviously improve on the design later. but It's a good test

Damn dude that looks real nice

Next article of clothing we are looking at

IE Varsity jackets