It’s great to see the photos of IE members presenting themselves well in public. But there is also something very powerful about putting out an Everyman image. Like The Red Wheelbarrow Poem. So much depends on the man in a brown carhardt coat glazed with rain beside the rusted minivan.

yo Spokane is way closer to multiple cities in Idaho than it is to Seattle, wouldn't it make more sense if Eastern Washington and Northern Idaho were the same chaper? 🤔

Crazy how nature do dat

Nah

Stop trying to abandon your Washington roots

Washington pride, worldwide

@Jacob very excited to meet everyone soon 🏔

Washington Roots Idahoan Greatness

X

Only Washington can be Washington

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6397621/Why-536-AD-worst-year-alive.html

Washington DC is the original Washington

Make Washington White Again

@ThisIsChris I bet white people caused that volcanic eruption somehow. <:really:453005408064241674>

Yeah they didn’t sacrifice enough people to the volcano god

Victory for freedom of the press?

dude what if this was 4D chess?

Trump purposely started a lawsuit he was going to lose so he can claim he had no choice but to give Red Ice a press pass

Time to sign up!

Time for IE to open its press department

Here's looking forward to the articles when it turns out that Patrick's there, not for the Fall Garden Tour, but because he's the White House Correspondent 😎

Hey no dox

sorry I'll delete

what?

Oh man IE or Nick Fuentes or someone seriously needs to cash in on that ruling to get a press pass hahaha

@ThisIsChris uhh don't worry about it

You guys are acting as if doxxing is some overwhelming force, antifa realizes doxxing someone is incredibly difficult

Egyptians put gold toe gloves on their dead I too would like my toes to be wrapped in nice gold

That Red Ice video making guy needs to keep his identity on the down low

Their whole point is to amplify their doxxing abilities....we've infiltrated their chats, they literally could even dox patrick Casey at Defend identity lol

@ChippedStones gold has gotten expensive recently you have to choose just your favorite toe

*@ChippedStones rubs hands furiously at the thought of his dead toes wrapped in gold...*

@Campbell4732 well, doxing destroys lives pretty severely bro.

Some never fully recover.

Guys it was a joke about Patrick

@Bjorn - MD @ThisIsChris I’m brining dead toe fashion back. I’m going full toe

To say it's "not a big deal" is simply untrue.

Ian going full HR in general chat.

@missliterallywho I miss Reinhard Wolf. 😢

I wonder what happened to poor Reinhard, he just up and disappeared one day

They say some lunatic named Patrick took him out

Torchlight march is an ancient European tradition.

@VinceChaos I thought the torches looked cool but were an anachronistic show of strength at a public rally announced way beforehand which was already unadvisable

Also, why tiki

@Ald yeah it was anachronistic because it reminded people of burning crosses

A torchlight rally I could imagine at an unannounced rally in great numbers following a victory

I recently learned that cross burning in the US was never done as intimidation but was essentially only done at private parties.

Lynchings were generally done to rapists and murderers, and were very rare anyway

Crosses weren’t burned on blacks’ lawns? @missliterallywho

White people never enslaved anyone, we just bought existing slaves who would have continued to be slaves anyway

I was aware the Klans traditions came from Scotland

The average slave was better nourished and worked less than the average white

@VinceChaos nope, that's a Hollywood invention

The colonists did kidnap and enslave the Irish which meant they were cheaper than blacks and treated worse often

Whites were also lynched

For crimes

Irish were indentured servants, I'm unsure if they were ever in chattel slavery like Africans

The amount of Africans captured was minuscule yeah

Blacks had lower unemployment under segregation, and the biggest drop in the black white income gap happened during segregation

But some Irish Americans like to say we wuz negroes too

@Ald coulda sworn they captured even if they meant not forever

Descendants of black slaves are economically far better off than Africans

White people dindu nuffin

Yeah there was a lot of vigilante justice and little due process but it was for real reasons and happened to both whites and blacks. Blacks more simply bc they committed more crimes!

Segregation was good for blacks, not that that's our concern

but it was good for us too 😉

https://www.truthrevolt.org/commentary/horowitz-anatomy-lynching

The "right to be around Whites" talking point is a good one to push cause it's so true

A burning cross was the original Paul Revere's midnight ride

That's what a lot of it boils down to

Horowitz gets it right there 👆

It's like a clingy dysfunctional girlfriend who says you're being abusive by wanting to break up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fdp7t3tmyc

Any source on dispelling myth of intimidating cross burnings? @missliterallywho I’m at work or else I’d look it up myself

Also iirc yeah Whites were also lynched, might have been the majority of lynchings, sometimes for being Catholic immigrants

I'm thinking of a particular case of German lynchings

Idk how common that was though

I am listening to radio renaissance at work tho very stealthily with great headphones lol

@VinceChaos I heard it from Mike Enoch, haven't looked it up myself

The other important thing to clarify about the KKK is that they did not have a sense of White identity like we do, it was specifically an Anglo-American Protestant group

Its most redeemable framing is as a volunteer police force to deal with excess crime from freed blacks, but really, comparing us to the KKK makes hardly to no sense

Oh I never would either

Yeah I'm saying it shows historical illiteracy in libs who do so

I'm not going to renew TRS subscription, it all seems to just be shitposting now. The other guys don't let Mike finish a thought, and Jazzhands seems high on ranting and low on statistics nowadays.

Mike’s thoughts are always the best

It's the worst when Sven interrupts Mike to play a hardly funny song or something

No hate to Sven or anything

What're the best channels to listen to? I rotate between FTN, Nick Fuentes, James Allsup, and occasionally Red Ice

That usually covers my commutes Monday-friday

JF puts in good work

Nice array of guests too

Just listened to the new podcast
Shout out to all our IE ladies that were featured

Happy Homelands with RamzPaul and Tiina from Finland is good but I only tune in when they have a guest I like

They had Ryan Dawson on that was a gold mine of info

Isn't RamzPaul rabidly NS though?

Not at all @tsea

Oh, nice

He was rejecting the alt right label early too

Makes good short videos too

Yeah I remember people giving him hell for that, I think the boomers in the movement tend to be right, most of the time

RamZpaul was calling the DS a Fed Honeypot if I'm not mistaken.

Dunno about that, but regardless DS is bad optics most of the time

Anglin’s takes on women are pretty horrendous

He got Weev banned off Gab

"The world's number 1 rape legalization site" <:really:453005408064241674> -DS web banner

@Virgil seriously? What is anglin thinking? Tanya Gersh just won a case against him

@Ald yeah that interruption with the soundboard is so annoying, it's like "ok I'm wasting my time listening to this as Sven amuses himself"

@tsea RamZPaul has been an American Renaissance guy for a long time.

Myth of the 20th Century, "fun"town podcast, Dan Carlin's Hardcore history, + audiobooks + listening to "Regular Car Reviews" on youtube.

+Fuentes + an occasional Alsup video

That's the extent of my non-music content. I hardly consume Alt-Right or even political stuff anymore

Maybe like 45 minutes per week

I like the Convict Report, because it is the only anti-globalist source of news on Australia.

I miss TRS's Canada podcast. 🇫

I have an hour commute one way and another hour in the gym daily. So I do listen to a lot.

What is the difference between the terms Alt Right and Identitarianism? Alt Right to me always just meant the general awakening of white racial politics which is what we fall into. I guess it means something different?

🔴 🐘 <:redpill:439924063377555497> Vince makes some great content

@ExternalPepsi "Alt-Right" became a toxic "brand" that had to be ditched due to certain personalities and certain events.

“Alt Right” is a synonym for neo-nazism in the minds of many, so it’s basically useless.

*We* are Identitarians and *we* control it's future.

@Asatru Artist - MD But am I correct that it is a descriptor of the enlightenment of white identity politics?

It's never been a single group to me

Just a new name for WN tbh

When you have a toxic personality using the name for his own ends, and that personality implodes, along with events and institutions around him...it makes the term toxic.

Wood ape what the hell are you typing?

https://twitter.com/mcdehuevo/status/1063524512816197632

one of the worst tweets of 2018, appeared in pat's thread

It is amusing because every faction has decided to distance themselves from "alt-Right" branding, often for contradictory reasons. I.e. Carolyn Emmerick and her squad hates it for being to Christian and not Pagan enough, but the Helicopter Moms and the Orthodox Fascists hate it for being too Pagan and not Christian enough. The NatSocs say alt-Right was too "cucky" but then again the Pre-Box TWP became term-coiner Spencer's doomed enforcers, which led to a-R being understandably associated with 1.0 Hollywood NeoNazee WigNattery.

After C'Ville, MSU, cuck Box, Spencer's life imploding, such branding and marketing frustrations were perhaps inevitable.

IE does what IE does. IE is trying to be its own thing and that's for the best. Survival is the best proof of a correct path. So I support IE.

@ExternalPepsi I was responding to your question on aR as a term

Tl;dr

he gave a more elegant version of what i said.

:-p

@ExternalPepsi You need a tl;dr for three paragraphs? 😒

I can't help you.

Tl;dr

I think he means Too Lazy; didn’t read

tl;dr- just say you're Identitarian. aR could have been good if it weren't for some cartoonish characters.

No, Identitarianism is not just a rebranding of the alt-right

https://twitter.com/RepSwalwell/status/1063527635114852352

CA guys, this is a great opportunity for an action of some kind. CA Congressman levels the threat of nukes in response to a citizen that correctly identifies a potential CA gun grab as a precursor to war.

One explanation:
>Identitarianism is a movement which approaches the idea of an indigenous European identity from a non-racist, non-exclusionary, rational perspective. It recognizes the importance of European culture, history and values. It seeks to promote a pan-European ethnic consciousness and to protect the quintessential character of European society without oppressing or stigmatizing other ethnicities.

"alt-Right" never had a solid definition. So you are right, it isn't.

In other words, CA Congressman threatens to nuke American citizens to get their guns

In <#371705962224025610> we have the document "values before policy". My idea of the maximal wellbeing is one of changing our values and our culture. Reasoning is downstream from values, politics is downstream from culture. We've had ethnostates in the past and it didn't save us from where we are now because we lost the culture. We can't choose for ourselves because our values changed. My ideal is that our values and culture are in the right place. If that's the case we will outlast many iterations of ethnostates (as Europeans did for millenia). The political policies we advocate today are more importantly a device for us to communicate to the world the result of our values and the culture we want to instill. If someone asks why we want reduced immigration, it's because that policy reflects our values. If someone asks why we want to fight heroin and opioid use, it's because that policy reflects our beliefs. Explicit policy positions are an artistic expression of the values and culture we believe in.

Forced Calexit when

https://twitter.com/RepSwalwell/status/1063531633771339781

"Follow this tyrannical law or accept that you'll be nuked by the federal government"

Also as a moderator I will go back soon and remove any statements that imply Identitarianism is a mere optics facade, such as saying it is merely a re-skinning of alt-right. It would be a condemnation of IE if it were true.

I never implied that.

Not sure if anyone implied it, just saying I will be going back and re-reading for that.

@ThisIsChris waaaaaay tl;dr

I write this because sometimes people want to rephrase things they've said. I also vague it as "whatever I find" because I've only been able to gloss over the conversation to maybe a closer look will reveal there's nothing to read. But it *is* a common misconception especially for new people so just trying to be sensitive to that.

In all seriousness tho these are good answers

My point is aR never had a solid definition. It was just a flimsy alliance (not even voluntary in many cases) of various factions and ideologies, IE/ Identitarianism being one. Enough disasters happened due to hedonistic people, every faction is splitting from it for their own reasons.

Such splitting and distancing in the long term is good, I think all agree and is the IE party line, no?

Would have to ask leadership if we were allies with the factions of the alt-right.

If we showed up at some of the same events and share a single issue in common that's not enough to make us allies, though maybe there was more to it than that I would ask @Reinhard Wolff what he thinks.

I am not saying allies now or even recently. Or even "alliance" in an amicable sense.

more like an involuntary grouping, in many senses put upon all the groups by media

There's legal reasons we want to be incredibly clear and precise in our chats about what our precise relationship is or isn't with other groups.

let me make my stance perfectly clear: I just want to grill for G*d sake

Better to not assert anything than to over assert, because something inaccurate that's said is more of an issue than something inaccurate by omission.

I'm not disagreeing with that.
But it is dishonest and insults everyones' intelligence to insist there was never some overlap in media, some individuals, events, etc.

The future is important.

@Sam Southern - TN Ok, thinly veiled threat by a lawmaker to kill anyone who defies his disrespect of their rights americans.

"But it is dishonest and insults everyones' intelligence to insist there was never some overlap in media, some individuals, events, etc." according to who? What was the nature of this overlap? When and to what extent were these overlaps known to which members in leadership?

😒 <:really:453005408064241674> I dunno, man, maybe the first Director getting into California street fights?

at a gathering of so called "alt-right" groups?

That was found to be self-defense in a court of law, and he is no longer affiliated with the organization.

He was not there as part of an alt-right group anymore then he was part of the other antifa groups there.

He was there as part of Identity Evropa independently of what other groups did or did not do.

Okay, okay. Sure. I'll drop it. No IE people were at Charlottesville either.

Or have ever listened to TRS.

Antifa listens to TRS too

That is the biggest non sequitur

There were IE people at charlottesville, as were many other people. The IE people were there as part of Identity Evropa and not under any other group.

OK, civnat boomers listen to TRS too.

I feel like we are talking past eachother. "alt-Right" wasn't a group. No more than "punk rock" is a band

Bands can move away from punk rock and associate less and less with punk rock.

We're not an authority on whether the alt-right was a group or not. Why get into it? Let's just be who we are. Otherwise we're leaving confusing messages for future lawyers to read should the IE chat logs every get subpoenaed in discovery.

That's why it's important to be very precise and correct and not unnecessarily link us with any other groups or movements that we are not a part of.

I support I.E going its own way and developing its own brand. I'm not even trying to argue. I was just trying to be helpful to pepsi's question. But sure, I will go along to get along: IE covalesced out of the ether in June 2018 with no previous history. Please delete any contrary messaging.

Let’s all lighten up a bit. We used the term “Alt-Right” for a time, it’s undeniable.

I apologize if my points we're combative or in some way litigiously unwise. I appreciate and admire the thorough custodial work done on this channel. I am off to gym to wait in line at squat rack.

Damn I missed the argument

I love a good argument

*The Identitarian Right is Tearing Itself Apart!*

I will say, one of the benefits of having good admins and relatively civil people in this server is that we can afford to have the occaisional disagreement, and not make ourselves look like spergs in the process.

Greatings, fashy goys

@Jacob what is the L? There was a roman group?🤔

LARPers

tbh

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I didn't feel it was personal, hope you felt the same way. Thanks.

@ThisIsChris All good here, friend!

What are you guys cucking each other over now?

Girlfriends sons mainly

I thought we were past this.

The fact that anyone thought Kekistan was ever funny at all in any sense will forever be a stain on the internet Right

Kemp is officially governor-elect

I thought kekistan was making fun of us.

Now that we’re done w the identification and naming convo, what is a good action response to a CA Congressman threatening to nuke America if he can’t ban and confiscate our guns?

Congressmen can’t nuke anyone.

Sargon bringing up /our points/ about importing the third world will make us the third world, getting rid of whites means this country won't be America anymore, calling the tribe "fellow whites" and the Asians getting woke on the JQ (through #MeToo), but also being anti-white af and hating the people that built the country they *CHOSE* to move to. Welcome to 2018, everyone!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBo9Dh4D8S4

@Nerv - VA correct, and Stacey abrams can’t legalize the undocumented blue wave. We still did posters for that. Gun rights are implicit, White America would easily side w us and be more drawn to us if we had a campaign against this idiot

Sargon annoys the hell out me. I think he’s got mental problems.

He's getting more and more on our side.

Whether he'll admit it or not...

part of me is super petty and annoyed that he's potentially coming around to our side bc i dislike him so much

oh well he still has a pretty big audience so

it'll be good to get them converted

He's much less of a gatekeeper than Shapiro or Peterson and he's bringing up our terms and talking points more and more.

He already did this once, and then he went all schizo and was working behind the scenes to screw over other youtubers who do agree with us. He’s a weird guy. People should know to stay away from him.

Sargon has been a massive hindrance to the intellectual journey toward us for so many and it will take a lot to forgive

Im annoyed by a lot of the people on our side but I can’t really complain since they definitely make more a contribution than me

I don’t feel like Sargon will ever come around entirely though because he called himself a quadroon

@Ald I've been watching Sargon for years, and here I am. I've seen his ups and downs, but he's getting more and more pro-West as it declines.

He knows his Liberalistism ain't gonna be enough.

I watched him like four years ago in the anti SJW days

I used to watch him too actually lmao

Quickly was disillusioned of that crowd

That crowd is mostly dying off, or morphing (like Sargon).

Ouch, I sincerely thought that was a parody for a second, before I saw it was Sargon. Self-parody I suppose.

Off topic: Thanksgiving and Christmas are coming up and I’m curious if any of you have any good references for donating to whites in need?

I bought kids books for years but most drives disproportionately benefit non Europeans.

Reality is parody in 🤡 🌎 @Selma

@Alexander Pechorin my first thought would be to look for groups that serve the Appalachian region

Whatever Sargon and his fans decide to turn into im just glad they won’t be proud boys.

Find a white family in need and give directly to them. I bet a church would have a list... @Alexander Pechorin

@Sam Southern - TN @Asatru Artist - MD both great ideas.

You could just donate to IE members who have kids

Currently we give quite a bit to the police foundation, but helping families directly seems more productive

@Jacob is there a good list?

I’d be happy to buy gifts, books, clothes, summer camp, etc

@Alexander Pechorin Talk to @The Morrígan or look through <#358430171583217664>

We've done baby registries, so there is someone who keeps track of this @Alexander Pechorin

We should be giving as much resources as possible to that member of ours who lost his house in the fires recently

this tbh ^

Already donated a good amount to Rowdy yesterday. 💪🏻

GG

I’m gonna donate after my next paycheck

We can use the IE mailing address for that, correct? And earmark it for him?

yeah just make sure it says for Rowdy

so they know its for that specifically

Wonderful.

A baby registry list would still be great too.

I left my stove on while I was at work a while ago and it really makes you think just how much you lose from a fire. Like your clothes, everything. It’s like starting from scratch entirely

That’s why I keep my desktop in my car , so I never have to quit gaming.

I lost the wife and the kids, but I’ll never lose GAMING.

Check out @DrDavidDuke’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/DrDavidDuke/status/1063436774280781826?s=09

Y’all mind if I vomit

I think this was the debate where Sargon started to change his tune a bit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLUZ4uJlkvQ

That chick is hispanic btw. Softens the blow a little bit