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@Deleted User That's not what I'm getting at, we don't have the lobbyists or lawyers who could defend us in case of something terrible happening. I think we might be jumping the gun a bit and leaving a hole in our opsec At the end of the day, we aren't GI and our views are not as normalized as they are in Austria, Italy or even France.
@Virgil We won't get to the G.I. level by being insular and risk-averse.
For selling I.E. merch, the juice is clearly worth the squeeze IMO
@Tyler0317 We shouldn't be timid, I agree 100%, but we need to be smart. Furthermore if an individual has even a spurrious connection to us, we could get caught up in a RICO investigation
But I of course, support the decision of leadership, I just have some concerns I'm expressing.
@Tyler0317 I should also clarify, I'm not against selling merch per se, I understand it is a valuable source of income. I think we should just understand and prepare for potential consequences
Your point is well made, but again, there is nothing stopping an insane person from getting a tee shirt printed or a flag made and doing something now.
Even with 0 public availability of merch, bad things could happen.
Oh definitely what is to stop a crazy person from copying the logo from the site and making it a T-shirt?
In fact I might do that lol
^crazy person right here
Recently had an antifascist jokingly ask me where to buy flags
Nothing stops a crazy person with an objective to harm our image - and $30 in their bank - from downloading our logo, and having a shirt made on VistaPrint. Determined people will always find a way, no matter what.
How about this, what about having a set of merch that we sell to the public, while having a completely different set of merch we sell to members. Of course wearing the merch that we sell to the public during activism won't be allowed.
How about we sell merch publicly and unafraid? If someone does something stupid we point out that they aren't a member, they don't represent our ideals and that our merch is publicly available.
I don't see any function difference between this approach (which would be true) vs, "ah ah well they aren't with us because they are wearing **t-shirt design 3c** instead of members designated **design 3a**"
`well what if your member bought it from your public facing store`
>reverts to my original statement anyhow
On that note, let's design *more* merch for *everyone* to buy. <:deye:359010025223618570>
From what I've seen, the left is very lazy when it comes to false flags and conservatives are increasingly aware of the proliferation of hate hoaxes. If antifa wants to give us money for what would be an obvious false flag, so be it
They would probably just spray paint a dragons eye on a shirt and call it a day if they can't steal mom and dads credit card.
Just compare their banner to ours at the Columbus statue. Low energy!
I'm more concerned about WN 1.0 types buying our stuff, but that guilt by association will exist anyway and we can still put out statements like today's when necessary
If we only allowed members to buy merch then if someone made something with our logo and did something crazy it would make us look much worse
Ian is correct. We won’t stop from selling merch publicly, full stop. Everyone does it, there’s no good reason not to.
@Deleted User It would add an extra layer of protection and provide proof that said person was not an activist or member. But I suppose the issue has been decided. Which is fine, I see your point.
@Virgil I'm always a fan of spirited debate on an issue so long as people are 1. arguing for (in their opinion) our best interest and 2. not tossing out personal attacks
I appreciate your insight but simply disagree
@Deleted User Agreed, I understand and If I came off as being too personal, I apologize. But I have been a part of this movement for a long time. I've seen my fair share of trends/people and organizations with potential disappear. So I guess I'm little overly cautious at times because I don't want to see the same thing happen to us. I'd be devastated if that happened.
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screw it, id rather have the preview image cause it makes it funnier.
I was born too soon.
Where can I cop
I have to look for a new job because a black guy at work is telling everyone I’m racist because I turned him down!
He has a lot more friends than me
That’s my problem
Go to the HR department
I’m gonna try to do something but I doubt they’ll prioritize me over a minority
You’ll be fine
Just be confident, you are in the right
Why are black guys so insecure?
I just don’t even know if I want to be there at this point stuff like this just keeps happening
This is really the only place I’ve ever had this problem
I had a girl tell me a story about rejecting a black guy so he threw her on the ground and kicked her
Seems to be a pretty common theme
He told me he didn’t like dark skin girls right after complimenting me. I just agreed with him, then he said “why?”, I said I want my kids to look like me. He said it’s racist, this was also minutes after he told me he wouldn’t want a dark skinned baby.
Because they don't actually believe in the slurs they use towards us, they just use these words as manipulative tools
Then he literally screamed “racist” at me, got everyone’s attention, and now people are coddling him
Most people sympathize with not wanting to date outside ones race. Call it personal preference. Don’t you have a boyfriend anyway, @NITRODUBS?
Lol call him racist for not liking black girls lmaoo
I did call him a racist for it and he never denied it lmao
Then say that since there is no problem with him not liking black girls, there should be no problem in your situation
That’s exactly what I told him
He just kept yelling racist lmao
Go with the line that you have a boyfriend and he kept harassing you
@NITRODUBS you're a girl right? It'd be a shame if you told management he's harassing you because you turned down his sexual advances
I saw an NPC post on t_d earlier this week
the pipeline from 4chan right to trump reddit is pretty short
@NITRODUBS it’s been my experience as an onlooker that black guys tend not to deal well with rejection.
What do grown adults do on Wednesday evening because they chose not to have children? They meet up at my kids playground to play Pokémon go.
That's a healthy looking group... <:sad:366743316475281408>
"Why my Zionist ideology is more important than your white country"
thats total bullshit too
btw what you said wasn't even racist by definition
Go full blown liberal and say "how dare you fire a woman after turning down sexual advances! After Kavenaugh! This is just like The Handmaids Tale!!"
@Sam Anderson Figures his wife is non-white the way he talks...
if a black guy calls you racist at work its basically over
you've lost your job I'm sorry
just don't apologize
that will make it worse
I'm gonna have to disagree with that a bit
Disagree. Employers have hostile work place problems for firing women for turning men down.
It's impossible to say what is "racist by definition"
because there is literally no consistent definition
"racist" just means whatever liberals want it to mean at the moment
War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Everything is racist
thats my guiding light when in doubt
@NITRODUBS You have a strong #MeToo case. Were the women Cosby victimized "racist"? No! Stay strong.
Ugh I feel like it’s a real spike to my dignity to say he harassed me, because I feel like that’s a lie. He just called me racist he didn’t do anything sexual or whatever
Calling you slurs in an effort to damage your personal and professional reputation is harassment of a kind.
A good strategy would be to steer the definition of "racism" towards "racial hatred." We don't hate other races, so we're not racists.
After all, the word isn't going away. May as well control it.
@NITRODUBS He is using his black privilege in an attempt to destroy the reputation of a white woman who had the audacity to turn him down. That is absolutely harassment, of the vilest and most cowardly kind.
@Danimal876 The word is going away if it gets mocked enough and its users realize that it has no intimidation power anymore
How's everyone evening going?
@NITRODUBS It is absolutely harassment. He's trying to threaten you because you turned down his unwelcome advances. If that's not harassment, then I don't know what is.
He a told me I was sheltered because I haven’t dated a non white person
And yeah I’m going to report him I just feel like this will blow up in my face
Just remember, never go on the defensive about the situation, *he* is in the wrong, *not* you. @NITRODUBS
You are under no obligation to date anyone you don’t like, full stop.
I wonder if pulling the race card on people like that actually works in some incidences.
Even the fact that you don’t want to date out of your race aside, anyone who’d pull something like that to guilt you into a relationship doesn’t sound like quality material anyway.
Pulling the race card (especially in front of others) definitely works.
Just act really offended by his words. Act as though it goes without saying that what he said is offensive and racist. Act as though you totally expect everyone to agree with you and see his offensive ways.
It's social pressure in an instant and most will crumble.
these people are seriously depraved
The moment you show even a tiny bit that you're afraid that you'll be deemed racist - you lost. Easier said than done though, I know, especially if you don't want to jeopardize the job. Sorry you have to deal with this @NITRODUBS
We're literally being forced to justify our own existence
It's somehow controversial to want to have kids with someone who has something in common with you
Does anyone know how long it takes to register a business? I need to know for an article I'm writting
Could I theoretically go online, pay a fee, and be a "business owner"?
@Jacob In Maryland, I literally went online, filled out some forms, and boom...business (sole proprietorship). Might be different per state.
So it's accurate to say "I can literally go online, pay a small fee, and I now own a 'business'"?
Yeah pretty much.
Because with a sole proprietorship, you don't need an employer tax number (since it's just me), so a SSN is all they need and you already have that.
Again, might be different in WA...
Family dinner: watching the "boomers buy RVs" cable TV show makes me want to quote Erik Striker. 😒
Ready for fireside:
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Anybody else have the Feds messing with your discord before fireside?
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I too enjoy making hot pockets for Patrick
I hope none of the food had spices...
Hot pockets shouldn't even be considered food
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hot pockets are delicious
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Did somebody say keto?
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Can I pay for multiple years?
Is Matt breaking up?
Do you think Paypall will ever be brought back? Zelle doesn't work with my bank
But a little...
Matt would never break up, he has always been faithful
laut und clear
@Hyphenstein If you talk to your bank in person they might be able to do it, that's what happened with me.
Zelle works with my bank now.
Zelle gave me so much trouble at first
Zelle was a pain and wouldn't work right for me
@Matthias Question. I'm switching over to using Zelle. Who do I send dues to?
get some agency, drop the benjamin and call it a day boys
I had zero issues with zelle
I couldn't make a zelle account
Y'all ever just look up recipes and make the food yourself to dab on immigrants? I'm making Thai Coconut Curry while listening to the fireside.
I had Mediterranean tonight for a change,was tasty
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