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2018-09-26 05:21:58 UTC

He was tripping over himself while turning around one time, hius tongue won't go back in his mouth and his head is always tilted

2018-09-26 05:22:01 UTC

I used to like cats better than dogs. They are both really cute, but you can walk around with a dog.

2018-09-26 05:22:32 UTC

This is why I love IE guys! You guys are woke on the DQ.

2018-09-26 05:23:14 UTC

Bad picture but you get the gist

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/494378395023704064/Snapchat-553276365.jpg

2018-09-26 05:23:41 UTC

@fgtveassassin Too good for this world.

2018-09-26 05:23:43 UTC

No doxerino pleaserino with the tag

2018-09-26 05:24:08 UTC

cats > dogs

2018-09-26 05:24:11 UTC

fite me

2018-09-26 05:24:14 UTC

Dogs are better than cats because they're so loyal. Lots of stories about dogs jumping in to protect their owners (from other dogs or anything else)

2018-09-26 05:24:27 UTC

My brother had a cat with bum proprioceptive response. It couldn't walk a straight line.

2018-09-26 05:24:48 UTC

@YourFundamentalTheorum Did you go to bed?

2018-09-26 05:24:50 UTC

He’s like a spare Ewok. Just wait over there, bro.

2018-09-26 05:24:55 UTC

@micbwilli i woke up

2018-09-26 05:24:56 UTC

just now

2018-09-26 05:25:15 UTC

I'm a cat guy and I feel like a girl fawning but god damn I love that dog, everything he does is just so cute

2018-09-26 05:25:15 UTC

That's a very short sleep.

2018-09-26 05:25:22 UTC

yeah it happens to me

2018-09-26 05:25:28 UTC

n i g h t m a r e s suck

2018-09-26 05:25:44 UTC

gonna stay up and read a bit then go back

2018-09-26 05:25:52 UTC

or chat with yall idk

2018-09-26 05:26:24 UTC

@YourFundamentalTheorum you ever get that trapped in your body thing?

2018-09-26 05:26:38 UTC

@Deleted User in what sense?

2018-09-26 05:26:51 UTC

@Deleted User Please don't talk about my greatest fear. 😬

2018-09-26 05:26:55 UTC

Your mind wakes up but you can’t move.

2018-09-26 05:27:03 UTC

^

2018-09-26 05:27:05 UTC

nope

2018-09-26 05:27:06 UTC

Sleep paralysis

2018-09-26 05:27:07 UTC
2018-09-26 05:27:09 UTC

never had that thankfully

2018-09-26 05:27:13 UTC

I think I've very briefly had that happen one time

2018-09-26 05:27:14 UTC

that sounds awful

2018-09-26 05:27:17 UTC

I’ve had it several times.

2018-09-26 05:27:25 UTC

I've had that happen in nightmares, it's awful.

2018-09-26 05:27:31 UTC

@Deleted User Did you see ayy lmaos?

2018-09-26 05:27:47 UTC
2018-09-26 05:27:56 UTC

auto correct

2018-09-26 05:27:58 UTC

Actually my greatest fear is putting in eye drops.

2018-09-26 05:28:10 UTC

Sleep paralysis sounds awful, but my biggest fear is talking in my sleep. As far as I know, I never have, but it would be an unfortunate way to dox myself

2018-09-26 05:28:22 UTC

my greatest fear is dying as an NPC

2018-09-26 05:28:22 UTC

I thought that was a holly cost reference.

2018-09-26 05:28:50 UTC

@Deleted User lots of people report gray ayy lmaos during sleep paralysis. Yeah my phone (((autocorrects)))

2018-09-26 05:28:53 UTC

😂😂😂

2018-09-26 05:29:09 UTC

If you're in IE, you're not a NPC

2018-09-26 05:29:30 UTC
2018-09-26 05:29:53 UTC

that's partially why I joined

2018-09-26 05:29:55 UTC

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN twice in my life I awoke to a creature standing over me. Then I actually awoke and it wasn’t really there.

2018-09-26 05:30:04 UTC

but I still want to be remembered by more than my family 😂

2018-09-26 05:30:06 UTC

@Deleted User shiieeeeet

2018-09-26 05:30:11 UTC

i don't want my grave to grow over with weeds

2018-09-26 05:30:26 UTC

and eventually bulldozed over for a highrise

2018-09-26 05:30:38 UTC

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN yeah. And I don’t believe in any weird shit either. It was the same figure.

2018-09-26 05:30:59 UTC

Call the Paranormies!

2018-09-26 05:31:36 UTC

There were no signs of probing thank god 😳

2018-09-26 05:31:47 UTC

I have heard the brain is wired to patterns, and "vaguely man shaped" is one such pattern. the stress of sleep paralysis triggers that pattern

2018-09-26 05:31:51 UTC

Only nightmare I've had multiple times and can remember is being chased through an endless corn field by a red baron style plane in the middle of the night under a moon.

2018-09-26 05:32:14 UTC

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN that literally explains it.

2018-09-26 05:32:18 UTC

my worst nightmare ever was having my dad execute me on the guillotine in a dystopian world

2018-09-26 05:32:21 UTC

Case closed

2018-09-26 05:32:38 UTC

Damn

2018-09-26 05:32:42 UTC

@YourFundamentalTheorum Who knows, maybe IE or its successor will take care of us in decades to come... not to LARP. It is a wholesome LARP.

2018-09-26 05:32:54 UTC

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Valle de IE?

2018-09-26 05:34:44 UTC

I've only had one reoccuring theme in my dreams about some personal things in my family and man, dreams never really meant anything to me, I still don't feel they have a "meaning" but I mean I always just passed them off, but those really mess me up when I wake up

2018-09-26 05:34:52 UTC

Not to damper the mood or anything

2018-09-26 05:36:49 UTC

dreams don't mean anything

2018-09-26 05:36:52 UTC

@fgtveassassin it’s weird how a dream can actually stick with you.

2018-09-26 05:36:52 UTC

but they influecne you

2018-09-26 05:37:38 UTC

I rarely ever have dreams, but when I do they're weirdly intense. I also sometimes realize partway through a dream that something is too unrealistic, change it, then continue dreaming

2018-09-26 05:37:45 UTC

Yeah, on a lighter note, i do remember a dream fom when I was like 6-7 probably and I was like fighting my cat, even though I loved him

2018-09-26 05:39:48 UTC

I do sleep-fight at times
I often awake with a hurt hand from flailing.

2018-09-26 05:40:38 UTC

The most intense dream I can remember involved a girl being pregnant with my child and me begging her not to abort it. That had me shook, but luckily the situation will never arise because I plan on waiting for marriage.

2018-09-26 05:41:25 UTC

@TMatthews That is heartening in a way. Your dream self has integrity

2018-09-26 05:42:04 UTC

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN i would actually be super down for a mausoleum for IE members

2018-09-26 05:42:40 UTC

I always love to visit mausoleums and commemorate those who wish to not be forgotten

2018-09-26 05:43:25 UTC

When the Smithsonian gets a museum on nationalism, there can be a wall with the names of the first 1,000 IE members lol

2018-09-26 05:44:24 UTC

that's perennial tbh

2018-09-26 05:44:39 UTC

we need to replace the pool outside the washington memorial with this

2018-09-26 05:44:55 UTC

possibly just elongate it

2018-09-26 05:45:04 UTC

Well, I would be happy with a simple tree over a simple stone along my future wife. But I wouldn't say no to monuments either.

2018-09-26 05:45:33 UTC
2018-09-26 05:46:00 UTC

admit it, you would want this to be your burial place

2018-09-26 05:46:08 UTC

Jared Taylor memorial in DC when?

2018-09-26 05:46:21 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/494384211742949386/image0.jpg

2018-09-26 05:46:38 UTC

"Memorial for victims of the white struggle"

2018-09-26 05:46:39 UTC

Not quite as epic. But this is how they do in Germany.

2018-09-26 05:47:09 UTC

I like the shrubbery around the mound

2018-09-26 05:47:12 UTC

I guess that's very homely, but this does't address the bulldozer quesion

2018-09-26 05:47:18 UTC

the BQ

2018-09-26 05:47:23 UTC

Haha true

2018-09-26 05:47:54 UTC

Uncle Jared statue with his hands on his hips and foot on a pedestal

2018-09-26 05:48:18 UTC

A katana in one hand, as a nod to his beloved Nippon?

2018-09-26 05:48:21 UTC

I'd honestly be fine with a simple grave.

2018-09-26 05:49:02 UTC

I just want a family to remember me. I have neices and nephews, yes.But I do want children.

2018-09-26 05:50:08 UTC

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN that is my worst fear 😂

2018-09-26 05:50:10 UTC

I came back and the first thing I do is miss read a message as "a rod to his beloved Nippon."

2018-09-26 05:50:19 UTC

I wish America was more Europe where you could get buried on the estate which would stay in your family for generations

2018-09-26 05:50:25 UTC

this

2018-09-26 05:52:23 UTC

@micbwilli nod not rod lol

2018-09-26 05:52:24 UTC

I want a son that makes me look like a woman in comparison in chad-ness (not that I'm that far along to begin with but that'll change) and carry on the name

2018-09-26 05:52:42 UTC

Weebs shouldn't point their rods to Nippon so often ya know...

2018-09-26 05:52:58 UTC

or so they say

2018-09-26 05:55:23 UTC

I think we're all going to make it. Families and memories.

2018-09-26 05:56:02 UTC

I got it after I read it again.

2018-09-26 05:56:05 UTC

"But the Real Ethnostate was the friends they made along the way..." *roll credits*

2018-09-26 05:56:52 UTC

that sounds like the end of a Murdoch Murdoch video

2018-09-26 06:08:37 UTC

Who has that dank meme of the statue that says: "we have the recipes, we don't need the people." ?

2018-09-26 07:23:49 UTC

Sorry for not being active. It's a nondenominational church I used to go to

2018-09-26 10:13:20 UTC

G O O D
M O R N I N G
F E L L O W
I D E N T I T A R I A N S

2018-09-26 12:44:28 UTC

Morning y'all.

2018-09-26 12:44:46 UTC

My boss is actually at the office before me for the first time. It's a miracle.

2018-09-26 12:48:21 UTC

Also I'm drinking decaf coffee because true Identitarians do not consume mind altering chemicals (at least not in sufficient qualities to be affected).

2018-09-26 12:51:19 UTC
2018-09-26 12:51:21 UTC

Black coffee every morning for me

2018-09-26 12:53:00 UTC

@sigruna14 Nonsense, Europe has strong traditions regarding the creation and consumption of mind-altering beverages of various types

2018-09-26 12:54:38 UTC

@Max Bianco - NY Before I start some big to do, I'm mostly kidding. However, I really don't like to drink full caf coffee because I'm very affected by it. Same reason I don't like to drink to where I feel an effect. I don't enjoy having my mental state altered by chemicals. Don't like how it feels.

2018-09-26 12:55:13 UTC

It's a virtue. I agree with it but don't always practice it when it comes to caffeine and moderate alcohol consumption

2018-09-26 12:55:49 UTC

@sigruna14 I figured you were kidding, and that's fine 😃

2018-09-26 12:56:09 UTC

Did you folks know that beer is a symbol of white supremacy?

2018-09-26 12:56:25 UTC

Lol of course, what isn't.

2018-09-26 12:57:36 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/494492738293727233/0116171624_HDR.jpg

2018-09-26 12:57:49 UTC

Saw this sticker up in Seattle last year lmao @Max Bianco - NY

2018-09-26 12:58:20 UTC

@Jason - CT you're all over the place man

2018-09-26 12:58:26 UTC

@Jason - CT See, objective evidence. All we need is the SPLC and ADL to codify it

2018-09-26 13:22:00 UTC

Just avoid IPAs ! They'll make you buy a Nintendo Switch and let your wife go on dates (sans yourself).

2018-09-26 13:36:29 UTC

The absolute state of the west in 2018: Faith Goldy (a native, white Canadian) being kept out of a building by a Sikh. 😒

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/494502526234787840/unknown.png

2018-09-26 13:36:37 UTC

India Pale Ale?

2018-09-26 13:37:15 UTC

Disgusting... and our future if things go as the globalist plan.

2018-09-26 13:52:29 UTC

England still has a civnat fantasy of the based Sikhs. It's obsession tier, actually.

2018-09-26 14:14:29 UTC

Sikhs are based: back in their own subcontinent.

2018-09-26 14:22:49 UTC

we have an Indian grad student who said she'd be going back to India after she finished her degree

2018-09-26 14:23:07 UTC

I almost high-fived her

2018-09-26 14:30:17 UTC

Anyone in here well versed with DNA composition

2018-09-26 14:33:49 UTC

Good morning fellow Identitarians. I had you all in my prayers this morning and I hope you all have a productive and safe day ahead of you. Cheers

2018-09-26 14:34:48 UTC

@Valaska what do you mean, DNA composition ? what do you want to know exactly bud?

2018-09-26 14:36:11 UTC

i had a terrible work out at the gym this morning and now I am craving KFC food LOL dang it !

2018-09-26 14:37:45 UTC

give me KFC now 😩

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/494517942705192984/IMG_2556.jpg

2018-09-26 14:44:43 UTC

...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/494519697627414549/image0.jpg

2018-09-26 14:48:32 UTC
2018-09-26 14:52:40 UTC

@Grayson
>KFC
>Not Cracker barrel
<:varg:359010745192808449>

2018-09-26 15:03:08 UTC

@Grayson Just eat some of their grilled.

2018-09-26 15:03:43 UTC

Or better, chick-Fil-a grilled nuggies

2018-09-26 15:06:03 UTC

😩 i have opted for oatmeal

2018-09-26 15:06:59 UTC

right !?? hahahaha

2018-09-26 15:07:04 UTC

Good way to stay regular

2018-09-26 15:07:14 UTC

right ?! haha

2018-09-26 15:07:40 UTC

i might have an Activia yougurt too

2018-09-26 15:54:14 UTC

Brings to mind the archetypal yoghurt TV ad. Ubiquitous Jewess and frizzy hair mullata duo in sweat pants sassing.

2018-09-26 15:54:57 UTC

Cue dumpy, hapless husband looking for a Real Dessert(tm).

2018-09-26 15:56:21 UTC

Activia yougurt is actually my jam.

2018-09-26 16:00:21 UTC

Activia isn't bad, but I prefer Oikos

2018-09-26 16:01:38 UTC

Oikos with Granola, mixed nuts, and fruit fam

2018-09-26 16:05:49 UTC

@Jason - CT That was a false flag by IE guys way back in the day, like 2 years ago

2018-09-26 16:06:34 UTC

@Jacob lmao srsly?

2018-09-26 16:07:20 UTC

Yes lol

2018-09-26 16:07:24 UTC

General question, do we ever or have we ever handed out business like cards for IE?

2018-09-26 16:07:36 UTC

I have Fage Greek 5% yogurt

2018-09-26 16:07:40 UTC

It was shortly before I became a member

2018-09-26 16:08:11 UTC

I see a lot of guys who I think would be willing to join or at least consider it.

2018-09-26 16:08:24 UTC

I remember joining IE and them telling me "lol that was us" and we all had a laugh

2018-09-26 16:08:33 UTC

Lmao great

2018-09-26 16:08:41 UTC

@Clayton_H_ATX yes we have business cards

2018-09-26 16:09:12 UTC

When me and my friend saw it I thought it was dead serious.

2018-09-26 16:09:33 UTC

The thing is, it was actually a really clever and thought out troll. It's deeper than you might think at first.

2018-09-26 16:10:35 UTC

Your coder in chief can bench 295

2018-09-26 16:10:52 UTC

What can he squat tho?

2018-09-26 16:10:57 UTC

The idea is that craft beer is a uniquely white liberal phenomenon, so it forces them to confront their own in group preference. They know there's some truth to it.

2018-09-26 16:10:58 UTC

Trying to get back to my playing numbers though

2018-09-26 16:11:15 UTC

I need to test that. I did 315 the other day

2018-09-26 16:11:29 UTC

I used to do 405

2018-09-26 16:11:52 UTC

Yea, my Lowe half was a lot stronger until I screwed up my knee.

2018-09-26 16:12:08 UTC

285 best bench.

2018-09-26 16:12:13 UTC

I used to bench 345

2018-09-26 16:12:36 UTC

That’s impressive. I’d like to get 3 plates

2018-09-26 16:13:26 UTC

I’m ok with squatting 2 pl8s for reps, 3 for DL, and 2 for bench. Still want that 315 max bench tho

2018-09-26 16:14:29 UTC

Yea its tough to get past certain plateaus

2018-09-26 16:14:50 UTC

Everybody has their own seems like

2018-09-26 16:14:52 UTC

Did you play college ball or just HS

2018-09-26 16:15:15 UTC

I played rugby in college and rugby and football in hs

2018-09-26 16:15:36 UTC

I was doing Rugby. JRFC in Jacksonville

2018-09-26 16:15:46 UTC

Bad ass sport

2018-09-26 16:16:05 UTC

Flanker

2018-09-26 16:16:06 UTC

Nice man. I captained a couple years in hs we went to nationals

2018-09-26 16:16:15 UTC

I was 8 man

2018-09-26 16:16:38 UTC

there you go.

2018-09-26 16:16:47 UTC

You in the ATX area?

2018-09-26 16:16:57 UTC

Dallas

2018-09-26 16:17:11 UTC

Can’t blame you. Might go up there for post grad

2018-09-26 16:17:38 UTC

Its nice. But the population is growing too fast

2018-09-26 16:18:27 UTC

Hate that. I’m more of a rural kind of guy, but the opportunities are limited

2018-09-26 16:18:51 UTC

There are just too many Asians moving in

2018-09-26 16:18:54 UTC

Good chatting brother. Gotta get to work tho

2018-09-26 16:19:03 UTC

Cya man

2018-09-26 16:19:04 UTC

Lol 22 million illegals doesn’t help

2018-09-26 16:19:11 UTC

That too

2018-09-26 16:19:14 UTC

Cheers

2018-09-26 16:19:26 UTC

Cya brother

2018-09-26 16:20:51 UTC

Montana for an ethno state? 😏

2018-09-26 16:22:01 UTC

Honestly, the northeast (VT/NH) would probably be the easiest to do that with since it's already like 90-95% white.

2018-09-26 16:22:17 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/494544249531006986/0926181021.jpg

2018-09-26 16:23:52 UTC

Classy!

2018-09-26 16:39:31 UTC
2018-09-26 16:39:45 UTC

i think Montana, Wyoming or Idaho are the last White bastions of hope

2018-09-26 16:40:51 UTC

I thought that too they're both possibilities. The advantage on the west is they are more republicans

2018-09-26 16:41:14 UTC

Wyoming isn't as white as you would think. About 75% and falling, thanks to mexicans moving in for the jobs and africans brought in by the churches.

2018-09-26 16:41:25 UTC

i was talking to some friends of mine from California who were telling me that they are sending their kids to College in Moscow IDAHO and when i asked them why (I already figured why but i still asked) they said: we took a tour of their campus and it was predominantly white students! haha

2018-09-26 16:41:38 UTC

That and the Indian reservations

2018-09-26 16:42:18 UTC

Wyoming - 91% white
Montana - 89% white
Idaho - 89%
Those stats are as of 2010, so I bet they are slightly worse now.

2018-09-26 16:42:24 UTC

I 'm sure it depends where in Wyoming

2018-09-26 16:42:44 UTC

Don't get me wrong, it's still a great place to live. Just not as white as you would expect.

2018-09-26 16:43:09 UTC

yeah my own Church (the LDS Church) is responsible for bringing in a lot of converts from Latin America and India 😦 who join the Church so they can use it as a ticket to come here. Once they get here, they stop being active in their congregations.

2018-09-26 16:43:17 UTC

No way, I thought for sure MT would at least be 90%.. damn

2018-09-26 16:43:50 UTC

That 89% figure is from 8 years ago too...

2018-09-26 16:44:38 UTC

Pretty much every state except the far northeast is being flooded with Mexicans and some are being "enriched" with Somalis (Minnesota) or Arabs (Michigan).

2018-09-26 16:45:18 UTC

91% isn't accurate anymore. We had an oil boom right after that, brought in mexicans from California & that's when the Lutheran church started to bring in Nigerians, Ghanaians, ect.

2018-09-26 16:45:33 UTC

Well i don't think there are any places left that are entirely exclusively 100% White; don't you guys think? But there might be some counties within some States that are.

2018-09-26 16:46:12 UTC

I have never seen anywhere that didn't have some non-white around, they just won't leave us alone.

2018-09-26 16:46:35 UTC

The good thing about WY is that these people have no roots here. When the jobs dry up, most will move on.

2018-09-26 16:46:53 UTC

in Utah there are pockets of exclusively white communities, especially where the more hardcore Fundamentalists Mormons live. they don't allow non whites in their communities

2018-09-26 16:46:54 UTC

But I'm sure there are some pockets that are almost all white (like Vermont/New Hampshire), but the govt and churches seem to want to make those "diverse" now as well. -__-

2018-09-26 16:47:26 UTC

It's all about making the non-whites feel uncomfortable. (No violence necessary)

2018-09-26 16:48:50 UTC

My town would have been entirely white but a family around here adopted these "poor Ethiopians and saved them". Now they are doing drugs and stealing. Oh, 3 of them also..

2018-09-26 16:49:48 UTC

If they feel accepted (or at least not actively rejected), they will stay and they will multiply. Eventually taking over neighborhoods and then towns, and then those areas just become little pockets of whatever country they came from with an Americanized, consumerist twist.

2018-09-26 16:50:04 UTC

Exactly @Asatru Artist - MD i was just typing that !!!! lol that's what the hardcore Fundamentalist Mormons do; if a non white family tries to move in, they make their lives miserable; their kids won't talk to the non white kids, they won't play with them, they won't invite them at activities and neighbourhood events, they won't trick or treat there, if they walk into a store, nobody talks to them etc.... eventually they drive them out

2018-09-26 16:52:13 UTC

Funny thing is I think the family is mormon

2018-09-26 16:52:22 UTC

@Asatru Artist - MD They call that " block busting" and it's an actual strategy they employ to take over an area.

2018-09-26 16:52:35 UTC

What's happening in Denver will be in Montana soon. I'm already seeing Texas plates everywhere

2018-09-26 16:52:49 UTC

remove the infestation

2018-09-26 16:53:02 UTC

or have nothing that nobody wants

2018-09-26 16:53:04 UTC

They brought their crime rates with them

2018-09-26 16:53:43 UTC

Things were extremely different when I was growing up. Its crazy how fast the shift can happen

2018-09-26 16:54:30 UTC

Sorry to hear that, brother. Coming from California, I can relate.

2018-09-26 16:54:41 UTC

@Felix i would not be surprised ! Mainstream White mormon families were brain washed into adopting non white kids back in the 70's and 80's. After the new revelations on the Negroes was announced.

2018-09-26 16:55:53 UTC

Yeah, for some reason there are actually great amount of Mormons where I live.

2018-09-26 16:56:16 UTC

@Felix the offspring of the NIOT leader in our town plays on a football team in town. I wonder if you've ran into him before

2018-09-26 16:56:31 UTC

Not In Our Town - anti white hate group

2018-09-26 16:56:50 UTC

@Grayson Sounds about right, my dad told me about the days where there were virtually no non-whites in the church

2018-09-26 16:57:10 UTC

Redpill them, get them to join IE as an act of rebellion.

2018-09-26 16:57:25 UTC

We have the mormon temple here and another mormon church.

2018-09-26 16:57:35 UTC

A year back a father of a Mormon family got caught for touching/molesting his 17 year old daughter (which goes to school with me). Family didn't do much about it, don't think he even served time.

2018-09-26 16:58:28 UTC
2018-09-26 16:59:44 UTC

on to my next class boys

2018-09-26 17:01:13 UTC

I dated an LDS girl in my town, pure Bavarian beauty. But her family adopted 6 non whites from some of the worst corners of the earth. Her brainwashing was DEEP

2018-09-26 17:02:42 UTC

In 1978, the First Presidency and the Twelve, led by church president Spencer W. Kimball, declared they had received a revelation that the time had come to end these restrictions. After this revelation, people of African descent could hold priesthood offices and could be granted temple admittance.

As early as 1908, a church publication stated that blacks could not receive the priesthood because their spirits were less valiant in the pre-existence. Church leaders used this explanation until 1978,[1] when Kimball publicly refuted it; later church leaders have called the explanation a folk belief.

Joseph Smith and Brigham Young reasoned that black skin was a result of the Curse of Cain or the Curse of Ham.[2] They used these Biblical curses to justify slavery. Young believed the curse made black people ineligible to vote, marry white people, or hold the priesthood. Successive church presidents continued to use the Biblical curses to justify excluding black men from priesthood ordination and excluding black men and women from the Church's temples. The idea that black skin was a curse was not officially contradicted until 2013

Before the civil rights movement, the LDS Church's doctrine-based policy went largely unnoticed and unchallenged for about a century with the First Presidency stating in 1947 that the doctrine of the LDS Church which banned interracial marriage and black people from entering the temple or receiving the priesthood was never questioned by any of the church leaders. In the 1960s, the NAACP twice threatened to protest the LDS Church if they did not support civil rights. The first time, Hugh B. Brown made a statement in general conference supporting civil rights; the second time, the LDS Church refused to support

2018-09-26 17:03:49 UTC

sad .. sad... sad....

2018-09-26 17:06:08 UTC

Even if you aren't religious, chastity in general is a virtue.

2018-09-26 17:07:24 UTC

@Felix no discussion of perpetrating violence, Rule #1.

2018-09-26 17:12:57 UTC

Unironically Mike Pence rule is most wise.

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