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We want to build a civilization, they only wish to destroy.
Literally a bed sheet and two cans of spray paint
Sad!
Badass @Asatru Artist - MD
@Louis Loire - NY Probably mom and dads bed sheet and stolen cans of spray paint too...
Looks like they found a good excuse to get stoned and skip journalism class.
@Asatru Artist - MD the thing is, they *are* sending their best
I see no trannies or otherkin...obviously not their "best".
I suppose they could have had more diversity <:really:453005408064241674>
"Hold your opposition to the same standard they hold you to" ~Saul Alinsky
Those bigots don't have enough POC!
That announcement that Will posted would be a great project for some of the people who spend a majority of their day chatting on this server.
Oh, comment cucked. epic.
F
Either way, my point stands - you know who you are ๐ ๐
Says the guy chatting on the server...
at 2pm on a weekday.
๐
@Asatru Artist - MD you left this at our last meetup
You know as well as I do, how much I do behind the scenes.
<:really:453005408064241674>
No doubt!
Few do more, actually.
I almost volunteered for this, but I've been wagecucking like 16 hours/day lately and I'm not really much of a "researcher" anyways.
You must be busy as
Yeah, it's good...and bad.
Who is Taylor Michael Wilson?
^
never heard of this guy
Where did media say this guy's associated with us??
Country singer?
hes got the name
jesus
Every article I've seen says he's NSM.
this is what I said about selling merch to the public
Apparently he was photographed while ("briefly") holding an IE flag
Sounds like a lunatic, maybe we shouldn't be selling merch with the IE logo on it to the public
Emily Gorcenski is claiming he has ties to IE, has no evidence whatsoever, grasping at straws
This happened in January, he was just sentenced.
HuffPo article this week. With the usual pilpull and taqiyya
Everybody take a look at Shild En Vriendenโs store. Itโs almost all stickers, gear that doesnโt have their logo on it
unless we're like dependent on the income from merch, it would seem to be a potentially good call to prevent the public from buying the merch
Even without this situation, somebody from antifa could buy IE merchandise, do something and then blame it on us.
But false flags and such are easily brushed aside due to the fact that we do sell some of this stuff. What if a member of IE mistakenly gave his flag to Wilson, and we werenโt selling the flag?
I am sure they and the feds already have some. But public sales should be ceased to mitigate future damage
I've already articulated this before, I figures people valued the income channel over the risk
There's always the possibility that it could be a false flag, but this isn't the first such case, and I doubt it'll be the last, and assuming that it is what they claim it is, the more the pressure builds, the greater the potential for the more troubled of our people (Whites, not IE members) to break down and lash out violently. This is why we have to continue to make clear that ours is the path ๐
@NateDahl76 Maybe, but from what I understand we are forbidden from associating with groups like the NSM, and for good reason.
My point applies retroactively
Anyone that looks at the Heimbach case and TWP's implosion and says "recruit for leadership!" clearly isn't without subversion (or lead poisoning)
@NateDahl76 I see your point, but there would be a much smaller chance of something happening, if we stopped selling merch to the public
Tbh they would try to link us anyways if he didnโt hold the flag
Probably true. Both positions are reasonable and valid. The current attacks against IE are very low energy, grasping at straws.
Yeah lol they tried to claim he was standing next to Eli Mosley when it was really just some random dude with a beard. 90% of these โconnectionsโ Gorcenski is making revolve around him literally just standing next to people at rallies lmao
Congrats @Deleted User <:deye:359010025223618570>
To worry about the public sales thing, weโd then also have to worry about our fliers and stickers. Anyone can peel those off and place elsewhere for nefarious purposes to defame us...as has already been done. Itโs simply a calculable risk mitigated by our provable, true actions.
About the writer: "Emily Gorcenski is an American transgender activist, blogger, and programmer. ***They*** attended Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. Emily prefers the use of ***they/them*** pronouns. [4] โ ***Their*** profile picture says " I have never used inferred behaviors to deliver a list of users to a government."" <:really:453005408064241674>
Oh good, we have mentally ill people writing hit pieces now...
@Asatru Artist - MD Interesting. I have a pal who went to RPI. He did not like the ghetto of greater Albany.
@Virgil Gen ID sells plenty of merch to people and in fact it's a pretty substantial source of income for them. Lots of organizations with controversial views sell merch with little issue, including Gen ID and stateside, groups such as the NRA. What do you think would happen if a card carrying, hat wearing NRA member was involved in a deadly confrontation, ultimately nothing. They have always been an organization where the only barrier to a hat or shirt is a working credit card.
Obviously we want to be more selective in membership, but we want our merch in as many people's hands as possible (assuming we get a payment processor)
Selling merch to the public is a very normal thing that normal organizations do to promote themselves and raise funds- while we will always have *some* member exclusive merch, I do not ever see us having a "no merch sold to the public" policy.
On the upside it is funny when tribal levantines fall for their own meme warfare (transsexualism)
But we are much more targeted with fewer resources than the NRA
The NRA is flush with cash and can afford lawfare
https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2018/08/06/cuomo-urges-other-states-to-hit-nra-finances-as-group-claims-losses-540854 Think again @Wood-Ape - OK/MN the NRA is targeted intensely
@Louis Loire - NY Of course they are targeted, anyone right of Biden is targeted. What I am saying is they are flush with cash so can weather legal attacks better.
Silicon Valley's partner beta tes ting cultural /ethnic destruction camps.
http://archive.is/27RoL
"It says examples of behaviour that could lead to detention include expanding the concept of halal - which means permissible in Islam - to areas of life outside diet, refusing to watch state TV and listen to state radio and preventing children from receiving state education."
"And extremism is defined so broadly that it even seems to be applicable to parents who complain if their children want to marry someone of a different faith or ethnic group."
Pretty easy to see how this playbook could be used against whites in twenty years.
"Hate Speech isn't Free Speech" - no more 1st Ammendment
"Common Sense Gun Control" - no more wnd Ammendment
"Electoral College is Racist" - direct LA/NYC/Chicago/(post2024)Houston rule forever.
https://youtu.be/jE-dFmLli5Y
Sorry about the news dump. Just got home lol
Chimpout in progress on my bus...
post it up on WSHH so we can watch! ๐
Lol
Nah, it was short-lived.
Any casualties?
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Yeah, civilization... <:sad:366743316475281408>
@Bjorn - MD Some random strung out black guy ran up to me one time and accused me of stealing his crack pipe
> living in brooklyn
Can't make this shit up lol
@Procella Eques @Bjorn - MD
In 8th grade I was in a basketball tournament. We left the hotel as a team wearing our uniforms, walking to the venue down the street...
Some blk guy runs after us shouting "Yo, gimme yo shoes!!!"
lol, it's easy to outrun someone in saggy pants.
I was stalked by a homeless black dude on the DC train one evening after work...dude was cursing and screaming at me for knocking him over (I got on the train 3 stops before he did...) and got within 8ft of me. I really thought it was going to be a fight, but his other personality took back over and he calmed down.
@Deleted User Maybe having a policy of only selling merch that we don't use in activism. The NRA has millions of dollars in funding, lobbyists and entire teams of lawyers to lobby on their behalf and defend the organization from legal trouble. We don't, at this point. So I don't think that comparison is all that valid.
It's not just the revenue.@Virgil
We need our name out there. Random ppl wearing our logo is fantastic signal amplification.
And normalization.
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While not selling may be the "safer" option.
It doesn't help us WIN.
WINNING must be the goal, gents
@Tyler0317 At a certain stage absolutely, but do we actually have the infrastructure to withstand the blowback lunatic or antifa going out and commiting a crime, while wearing IE merchandise?
It's a matter of mindset:
"We don't want to sell our stuff publicly because what if someone buys our stuff online and does something bad"
vs
"Our stuff is publicly available for sale, anyone can buy it, and if they do something bad - they obviously don't represent our values"
@Virgil what's stopping them from stenciling the dragons eye on a shirt and doing the same
or a synagogue?
having actual merchandise is quite different from a stencil drawing
not picking one side of the two options presented in that A vs. B but still
If it's done well, it'd be hard to say - and would it matter?
I would say it matters if it's a homemade stencil drawing vs official IE gear in this hypothetical scenario yes
A stenciling is much different from official merchandise that IE members would wear
Let's imagine the worst case scenario, lawsuits bankrupt the org.
We reshuffle, reorganize and rebrand.
We can't be timid. We have learned what we can expect by submitting to the PC powers.
I'm only arguing the stencil vs official merch point, as far as the actual path forward I'm more inclined to agree with continuing to sell some merch to anyone while retaining some IE member/IE patron exclusives
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