at least in the USA

I believe the financial institution as a whole will, some will die due to incompetence, and others will take their place. @Asdrubal

*DB has 49 trillion dollars or 43.5 trillion euros in unpaid derivatives*

*the US has over 200 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities*

It wouldn't matter

The Fed can control money supply in the USA which is all that matters

There cannot feasibly be a total financial meltdown in the USA

If we really wanted to we could reject any owed debts as a nation and the world would just have to eat it.

Defaults

But realistically we’ll just have an unlimited debt ceiling.

It’s the most diplomatic thing to do.

And since we have a fiduciary monetary system we'd be fine

FDIC would insure deposits for most Americans

I mean, a little inflation might occur if they pay out, but not any major issues if we handle it correctly. @Orson Krennic

The Fed would curb inflation quickly in this scenario

If the global market just like died

And our major financial institutions filed chapter 11

They'd be bailed out

Discount rate would go down to 0

It would be 2008 but take longer to get out of

But the system would survive

The only thing that can kill the system is a firesale

@Orson Krennic And of course that’s what bailouts are made to prevent.

Right

You cannot kill the US finance system

Because

You can't kill America

Rather, you could, but it’s entirely unrealistic.

Right, the only thing that could do it is a firesale attack

Die hard style

And that would only be a real issue if everyone did it or if a large amount of an industry was monopolized. @Orson Krennic

And even then the financial leaders of the companies would know better when their profits are insured by the federal government.

Monopolies aren't even that big of a problem most times

Natural monopolies are perfectly fine

But most monopolies are created by the government

@Orson Krennic The kind that exist because of government interaction or the kind that were originally started by the government?

Natural monopolies exist because of high operation or start causes in an industry

But large conglomerations are made rich because they get money and contracts from the government

can we just take voting rights away from women? that will solve 90% of issues

so true

@CUNT How?

Dude also wants to take voting rights away from everyone who doesn’t own property

So yea

@Orson Krennic Monopolies can stifle free markets. It’s like a massive oak tree preventing anything from growing under it. Sometimes the government needs to cut it down and let the rest of the market grow.

Regardless if it grew on its own or if the government planted it.

Natural monopolies operate differently

It's like a local cable company

Not to mention if it falls by itself very bad things can happen like the market collapsing and prices skyrocketing because supply can’t meet demand.

That's a natural monopoly

Because the operating costs of operating another cable company are too high

@Orson Krennic Local cable companies aren’t good. It stifles competition which takes away much of the incentive to provide good deals and better technology.

Natural monoplies aren't necessarily bad

They provide services at a low cost to consumers

What’s keeping them from raising the cost?

It would be competition, but they don’t have any because the startup costs aren’t worth the profit. @Orson Krennic

The only alternative I see is regulation, local or otherwise.

@DrRisen if they did raise costs then it would be economically profitable for a new company to start up

But if they offer good service and keep their prices stable then there's no profitability

@Orson Krennic If a new company starts up its economically feasible for the already established company to temporarily lower their prices far enough that the startup, which will have a smaller customer base and ergo need a higher price line to stay in business, will be forced to sell or go bankrupt, then the monopoly can raise its prices right back up.

Consumer confidence

You're ignoring the opinions of the consumers

Sure they can do that

Monopolies are ecvil

But at that point public opinion would be negative towards the company

And what will that do, make them stop needing phones?

No, they'll be less apt to stay with the company overcharging

Or they'll find a substitute

Which consumers are very good at doing

monopolies will attempt to entrench themselves by using temporary charging reductions

They don’t have an alternative option when there’s no other companies around.

In this scenario the likely outcome would be that another cable service would expand into the area to meet the demand of the consumers

But with startup costs and a smaller initial customer base for the opposing company the monopolized company can simply discount their prices to a point at which the other company cannot keep their doors open in the area. @Orson Krennic

But then operating costs for the first company would be greater because they're not bringing in enough revenue to pay for them

@Orson Krennic Clarified. Meant to refer to the incoming company for startup and operations cost.

If they keep going through a cyclical price system, the consumers would have no incentive to stay with them, so when another company did come into the area the consumers would switch

@DrRisen that's short term

Long term, it would be a good investment for the incoming company

Especially if they're already established

@Orson Krennic Switching takes time, especially if the initial company had an exclusivity clause in place.

Time that the startup doesn’t have.

Companies change prices all the time without losing public support

It’s a stamina game, and the home field team will always have more of it.

Again, it's a long term good investment

Short term, the costs are expensive

Long term, it's a good investment

Especially because of the demand for cheaper prices

If you’re a startup, you can’t afford long term because you have bills and loans to pay *now*.

That's not what I've been saying

I explicitly said what would be probable is for an existing company to move into the area and expand their business

Which doesn’t solve the problem of stifling new growth.

It’s just another big tree taking up even more of the forest.

If the other company offers lower prices then it would solve the problem you detailed

And eventually these trees merge or go bankrupt making it even more centralized

But often times, companies don't do this

So it's not a realistic scenario

@Orson Krennic And that breaches the problems of corporate conspiracy, in the sense of conspiracy meaning conspiring and cooperating together.

I can’t think of the proper word for it in financial terminology, though there probably is one.

@Orson Krennic Collusion, that’s the word.

@DrRisen R A I S I N

@Maksim W A T

Combination of cultural warfare, the sanctity of marriage and a lot of rope, some assembly required

@everyone Question Of The Day:

You're the infamous epic hacker 4chan and you've just stolen all of the world's nukes; problem is which country do you nuke first?

The United States

Denmark

The US

Also if you date a girl taller than you, you are a cuck

Thank you for attending my ted talk

true

Israel

@Asdrubal epic

i'd nuke israel first

then the world

setting everything back

just for the day of the rope

The United States is the center of industrial society

Everything will fall with it

I wouldnt nuke israel because of palestine

Tell Aviv is really the only place I'd nuke in Israel

I dont want to ruin Jerusalem

Saudi Arabia

USA

I would unload the nukes in Canada

They are up to something

They are acting too nice

Also Israel and Palestine

Bc of the Zero State solution

My own country

Also you could “hack” all of the nukes, but not all nukes are ready to be delivered

Such as half of China’s nukes are deliverable only by plane, so it wouldn’t matter if you “hacked” those

The only ones you would need would be the ones ready to launch in missile silos, even then several countries have ABMs and can easily knock down the ones you fire

So you would need to hack into the missiles instead of the actual nukes in order to effectively strike some places

sanfrancisco, Portland Oregon, NYC, Tel Aviv, a couple in the middle east, China, and finally Mexico.

Chicago and Detroit as well

Chicago, Detroit, San Francisco, and NYC arent bad places tbh

israel, chinese seat of government and washington DC

Lots of Posadists today

Id bomb north pole to make the ice caps melt

And take everyone out at once

🤔

Afghanistan to end the war there. But I’d remove all innocent people and allied troops first so it was just the taliban and ISIS there.

Nuke Japan twice

@Actualwolfblood fag

greece

Launch them around the globe and wipe out the earth's atmosphere

@everyone Question Of The Day:

What do you think will happen to groups like EU, UN, NATO, BRICS in the future? Will they grow bigger? Fracture? Why?

Fracture

They will fail

Why?

when the largest members leave

they have no support

Why would they leave?

idk

Everything fails in the end

Entropy ^

They are obsolete. Humans can fulfill their violence through Fortnite now.

Apart from a commonwealth union 🇬🇧 🇬🇧

The EU will fail. Lots of Euroskeptic parties rising up

italy

uk

poland

what else?

bankers must die

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Illinois_gubernatorial_election

Tbh, abolish the union

Isn't the AFD euroskeptic?

Germany and France have been pulling funding from the EU so it's demise will occur soon

I expect an African Union to be created sometime in the near future

too sad that it fails that miserably

By How much did the Republicans win in this election?

total gdp of EU is larger than US's is

only if eu nibbas united somehow..(

Will never happen

That would be cool ngl

so sad

A huge European army

EU wants an army. Its time for them to die.

Conquers and does imperialism again

Hitler was right after all.

i live near one of the largest arabic ghettos in sweden

and from my perspective

But y'know Europe isn't a nation and national sovereignty is important. So, fuck the EU

world domination is bleak as fuck

United Commonwealth Nations would be great but India and South Africa are buddy buddy with China and Russia, Australia is shrinking their military and becoming closer to China, New Zealand isn't much of a power, etc

Nuke Jerusalem for Jesus

@21ooAB I assume you know the answer?

it's funny how some people perceive the jews

as one united power

and at the same time jerusalem is having a full scale political crisis

dissolves it's parliament after it elects it, every 2 fucking years

I also assume you were going to disclose that the state you’re showing is Illinois, a very rural state that managed to get one of the most populous cities in the US, Chicago?

hehe

their weather is also marvelous

imaging having a sandstorm at the middle of the day, in your city

ahahah

but it happens in jerusalem, IRL

@21ooAB Perhaps you’d also be interested in disclosing a map which takes population into account?

@21ooAB It’s almost as if you’re trying to subvert the narrative by not accurately showing population differentiation in a ***democratic*** vote...

@DrRisen 3%

Globalism bad, check mate globalists.

To me it’s like 50/50 depends really on who’s gonna be the next big player in the latter half of this centuries gonna be.

If it’s China I could very well see regional groups like the EU gaining in power to ward off such superpowers but if there’s no clear cut “winner” I think it’s prolly anyone’s game

EU is toast

Their entire economic partnership relies on Deutsche Bank imperialism and Deutsche bank is about to fail

Not really tho, it has more to do with germany being an economic powerhouse in general. Their power won’t just wane with one of their banks falling

Deutsche bank controls a lot of Europe's financial infrastructure

They virtually own Greece

Not saying that they won’t lose some of their power over Europe without deutsche Bank, just don’t see how them collapsing would straight up cause the EU to implode

I am going to own people

Fracture

Also based @Deleted User

@Gromp DB is backbone of Germany

Once Deutsche banks goes under, so does Germany

And germany is the center of the EU

^

Deutsche bank quite literally owns some countries

The EU's death will be because of Germany/DB

Populist groups in Europe are refusing to allow Germany to dominate their economies

As they grow in popularity, European nations will begin to adopt their own currencies and leave the EU

Doesn’t matter to the EU tho, even without Eastern European countries they can just run with the central core (France, germany and some others)

Yeah

Im talking about France and Italy

They cant compete with Germany

Will not let them dominate their economies

@everyone Question Of The Day:

If you had to describe your political ideology in a few sentences what would it be?

Pan-Americanism along with reformist socialism, nationalism and religious influence on culture/customs and some laws.

Kajnism

Moderate

Everything but kajnism is retarded

Huh

Ok boomer

Kek

Imagine not being a kajnist

What would you describe Kajnism as??

Kajnism, of course

Don't be a smart arse

Wdym

Kajnism is kajnism

Political terror and order

Brave new world

Warlordist

cultural nationalism with sorelian tendencies, as well as being variable when it comes to the state and cultural axis

@sandwitch I don't have an ideology

I prefer to model my worldview through historical regimes and nations

@21ooAB I mean you have facist as a tag so do you not believe in that

@sandwitch I call myself fascist as certain regimes that I like were fascist

I don't inherently like it

state atheism

<:groyper:515728068275601419>

Fair

Thank you for your input Addie

np

National Anarchist Accelerationist